Skinnyfat

[mogtivism]

Hi, i used to be 180lbs at 5’9, but as per advice i got here i cut down. Currently i’m sitting at 156-159lbs. I have been lifting weights but strength has barely gone up while cutting. I still hVe a stomach and i want it to be gone. I was cutting at 2000 calories and plenty of cardio but since beginning of last month, I haven’t been able to lose anymore weight on this amount of food. When i go lower i feel turbo-shit. I just want this skinnyfat hell to be over with so i can gain some muscle. What should i do now? lean bulk and cut later, or keep cutting down on extreme low calorie diet? Thanks for the advice.

 

[eduardkoopman]

What should i do now? lean bulk and cut later, or keep cutting down on extreme low calorie diet? Thanks for the advice.

bulking when you are fat already.
lol

 

[mogtivism]

bulking when you are fat already.
lol

Problem is after losing like 20lbs, cutting stalled at 2000 calories a day and lots of cardio. Can’t imagine going down to 1800 or 1500 being a good idea.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Problem is after losing like 20lbs, cutting stalled at 2000 calories a day and lots of cardio. Can’t imagine going down to 1800 or 1500 being a good idea.

Your current bodyfat percentage is?
As far as your muscle mass growth goes, That stuff is just simply slow as fuck. You can only quickly gain size natty, by getting fat. Muscle mass grows slow as fuck. It last a long time though, after having been build naty.

This is my experience. with it.

I went this path, as a former skinny fat person with gym natty.
1. lean/low fat, 12% bodyfat ranges minimum. Going from skinny fat to skinny, likely happens.
2. since muscle growth is slowish, to takes months, years to build a nice/decent muscle mass going along with this 12% bodyfat. Always 6 pack, year round, always vains year round.

 

[mogtivism]

Your current bodyfat percentage is?
As far as your muscle mass growth goes, That stuff is just simply slow as fuck. You can only quickly gain size natty, by getting fat. Muscle mass grows slow as fuck. It last a long time though, after having been build naty.

This is my experience. with it.

I went this path, as a former skinny fat person with gym natty.
1. lean/low fat, 12% bodyfat ranges minimum. Going from skinny fat to skinny, likely happens.
2. since muscle growth is slowish, to takes months, years to build a nice/decent muscle mass going along with this 12% bodyfat. Always 6 pack, year round, always vains year round.

My current bodyfat is 22% according to military tape test.

 

[eduardkoopman]

My current bodyfat is 22% according to military tape test.

if you look in the mirror. what fat % you estimate?

 

[mogtivism]

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if you look in the mirror. what fat % you estimate?
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Chart tells me 30%

 

[mogtivism]

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Chart tells me 30%

I’m built almost exactly like the man on the left of this image (not the buff one)

 

[eduardkoopman]

so you are WAY to fat still, imo.

If you want respect from men. tha stay as fat as you are, and ogre maxx in the gym, like a fat power lift.
If you want to appeal maxx to women, you need to go to sub15%, actually 12%. aka, visible abbs. You won't be big like a fat bulker, and guys won't be that impressed. Women like low bodufat on men. after that size. It will take a long time tp look decently big at 12% bodyfat, one needs probably 2 years of muscle mass building

 

[mogtivism]

so you are WAY to fat still, imo.

If you want respect from men. tha stay as fat as you are, and ogre maxx in the gym, like a fat power lift.
If you want to appeal maxx to women, you need to go to sub15%, actually 12%. aka, visible abbs. You won't be big like a fat bulker, and guys won't be that impressed. Women like low bodufat on men. after that size. It will take a long time tp look decently big at 12% bodyfat, one needs probably 2 years of muscle mass building

So should I cut like 10-15lbs and then start a slow bulk?

 

[eduardkoopman]

So should I cut like 10-15lbs and then start a slow bulk?

NEVER BULK, if you want to female appeal maxx. Cut till 12% bodyfat, and NEVER get above that again. If one wants to female appeal maxx.

If you want respect from dudes, and don't mind that women find your fat bloated face disgusting looking. than you can go bulk.

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

Hi, i used to be 180lbs at 5’9, but as per advice i got here i cut down. Currently i’m sitting at 156-159lbs. I have been lifting weights but strength has barely gone up while cutting. I still hVe a stomach and i want it to be gone. I was cutting at 2000 calories and plenty of cardio but since beginning of last month, I haven’t been able to lose anymore weight on this amount of food. When i go lower i feel turbo-shit. I just want this skinnyfat hell to be over with so i can gain some muscle. What should i do now? lean bulk and cut later, or keep cutting down on extreme low calorie diet? Thanks for the advice.

Go super lean then learn reverse Diet aka lean bulk from your leanest point, it has insane results and you stay lean, feel good etc..

Go for your wanted bf first, then lean bulk (dont gain fat, small surplus of 200 to 300)

if you cant lose more weight, you can't count your calories, you probably overestimate how much you burn, if you sit around on your ass all day and do 1hr of cardio, you burn less than by litterally standing up 8hrs and walking 10 000 steps (bare minimum for weight loss, target should be 15 000)


I might post a thread on reverse diet for more details

NEVER BULK, if you want to female appeal maxx. Cut till 12% bodyfat, and NEVER get above that again. If one wants to female appeal maxx.

If you want respect from dudes, and don't mind that women find your fat bloated face disgusting looking. than you can go bulk.

True af

 

[JohnnyRamone]

NEVER BULK, if you want to female appeal maxx. Cut till 12% bodyfat, and NEVER get above that again. If one wants to female appeal maxx.

If you want respect from dudes, and don't mind that women find your fat bloated face disgusting looking. than you can go bulk.

If anything, the lean obsession seems to be for men. Plenty of women like bulked men.