SLAYING AT BARS/CLUBS - A THREAD FROM A WHITE NT HTN FRAT SLAYER

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Here's a quick guide of first, the prerequisites to slay even semi-frequently (in the West), as well as tips on HOW to slay. I'm going to try to be as honest as possible and avoid ragebaiting ethnics/jews/manlets even though I usually do this because it's hilarious. A lot of these advice are context-dependent (country, social setting such as a college town vs big city), but I am going to focus on slaying in a college town in the US, as that's the most "generic" setting.

1. Prerequisites

- NT Race, you should ideally be White, Lightskin, Black, Latino or Mixed. Increasingly nowadays, you can also be Northeast Asian on the West Coast (SoCal for instance) or New England (big liberal diverse cities like Boston). Northeast Asians are also acceptable in places in the West where they're considered "exotic" due to their rarity, these countries are often also exposed to Korean/Japanese/Chinese media, making being Northeast Asian "NT" (Ex: Scandinavia, Ireland, Scotland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France).

- At Least Average Height (For Whites), this would be a TRUE 5'10/178cm (barefoot afternoon height) in most places in the US as well as South Europe. For North/Western Europe, you want to be at least a TRUE 5'11.5/182cm (barefoot afternoon height)

- NT Haircut, which means a mullet or fratty flow in the US/Australia, or the "chav" haircut (French Crop/Broccoli Cut) in the UK, or a middle part/lax flow in Germany/Scandinavia. For blacks, this could mean dreadlocks or cornrows.

- NT Skin/Clothes/Facial Expressions, you should have acne-free skin that isn't pale (in a basement gamer way, not a high-class pale way) or greasy, as well as NT clothes (depends heavily on country) as well as facial expressions. Learn how to smile (not too much gum exposure, wrinkle eyes and eyebrows right) and how to move your eyebrows to convey different emotions. The way your lips move when you talk should also be NT.

- NT Voice, your voice should be relatively deep and NT to the local dialect (fratccent in the US, Recieved Pronunciation in the UK, hockey accent in Canada, etc). Also learn how to control pitch, tonality and convey sarcasm, seriousness, confusion and sexual tension with your words and tone/pitch effectively.

- Social Proof, you need to have a friend group at the bar/club you're in at the MINIMUM, going alone is a non-NT dealbreaker. If you know the bartenders and bouncers and can dap them up or make small talk, even better for social proof. Same with seeing random fellow NT white moggers (tall HTN+) and dapping them up, this is all social proof.

- Low HTN+ Face, for a one-night stand and drunk slays, your face doesn't have to be great. Drunk foids in the dark can't see well and their judgement is impaired.

- Be Naturally Extroverted or Use Drugs, stuff like Adderall/Cocaine/Alcohol all helps. This will loosen up your body language and facial expressions to seem more NT.

- Decent to Good Body, you can be anything between a starvemaxxed twink to an athletic lean physique to a blocky bodybuilder physique. Each one has appeal to different races of girls. Starvemaxxed twink = maximum appeal for NT white girls and asian girls, athletic lean = mixed appeal to white girls, latinas and black girls, bodybuilder physique for maximum appeal to black and latina girls. Just don't be fat is law.

2. General Guidelines (no I'm not going to give a step by step detailed tutorial on how to get pussy for you incels)
- Always keep your confidence up, as soon as you start feeling insecure or down, your chances for slaying the rest of the night goes to near 0. Tons of girls have big egos, boyfriends, "situationships" where they're technically single but madly in love with a tall chadlite+ that they can't get commitment from, etc. Other girls are just flat out racist and will not date or hook up with outside a certain race (southern/rich white girls only hooking up with white guys, hood/liberal black girls only hooking up with black guys, slavic girls only going for slavic guys, asian girls only going for asian/white guys, etc).

- Don't expect girls to approach you, even in slutty environments such as college bars on holidays (halloweekend, homecoming, frat/sorority events, freshers week, rush week, etc) or spring break/clubbing destinations (Miami, Puerto Rico, Cancun, Ibiza, Mykonos, Mallorca). However, they will approach you occasionally or if they're super hammered or if you're VERY good looking (chances are you're not on this forum if you are), or if they have a fetish for your race/height.

- Always look NT. Don't go on your phone often and if you do, only go on NT apps such as Instagram, Snapchat or iMessage. The last thing you want is to go on Looksmax.org and have stacy passing behind you see you on this unholy site. A trick is to sip your drink slowly so you always have something to do with your hands, otherwise it's easy to look awkward with empty hands. Also, you don't need to dance, but bop your head or frat flick (both NT moves). You can also talk to random people or your friend group, that's NT too.

- Catcalling girls on the streets (when you're walking to/from the bars) isn't a terrible move, you can generally pull it off if you're at least tall white HTN+. Lots of attractive NT slayers I know do this and they get away with it because they're NT and attractive. Nobody will give you shit for it or react negatively if you're tall white HTN+. Don't go as far as groping them though.

- WHILE SOBER, come up with a mental plan to escalate from any makeouts to sex. For example, mentally map out a Makeout -> Buy Drinks -> Flirt Further -> Dance/Grind -> Ask To Go Outside -> Get Uber Back to your place/dorm/hostel. This will make it MUCH easier to actually act on potential slays and escalate when you get hammered.

- Even if this might hurt your ego, only approach girls that you have a realistic shot with. If you're a 5'6 beaner, don't approach 5'11 aryan stacy. Same if you're 5'7 asian twink, don't approach the latina with tattoos who's ex is a 6'6 black football player. At this point in life, you should have an idea of the races/phenos most attracted to you. You can tell what the type of guys they're into by how they dress (sorority-like, alt, etc).

- Look for girls who look approachable (dancing provocatively, clearly hammered, dressed sluttily, touching guys, giving you looks), don't go for the girls with a resting bitch face with her arms crossed and on her phone on Snapchat/Messages. Should be obvious but some of you are non-NT autists.

- Go to the smoke break area and ask girls for lighters, instant NT conversation starter and approach method. Plus, this is a quiet and less crowded place for an actual conversation where you can hopefully leverage your NTness into an advantage, rather than pure looks. Also the lighting here is brighter, making face/PSL more important and height/frame decisively less so as opposed to a dark and blurry dance floor.
 
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Feel free to ask for any specific advice you might want (How do I slay in x country, how do I slay if I'm x race, how do I slay if my voice is high pitched, etc). I have a huge social circle and I've went out in North America, Europe, East Asia and Oceania (Australia) before, so I know country-specific social and cultural norms when going out.
 
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No guide for your social skills boyo a 5”5 Hispanic will outslay a socially retarded htn
 
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No guide for your social skills boyo a 5”5 Hispanic will outslay a socially retarded htn
are you illiterate? this guide also touches on HOW to be socially literate
 
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT. been a while since I seen an actual readable thread here. great no bullshit guide man
 
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this is the advice 99% of people need, not discussing facial ratios like homos. You're born with good/average/bad genetics and there is nothing you can do apart from basic stuff everyone knows like get lean good hairstyle and shit. Surgery will only make your face look uncanny (excluding any major flaw maybe) and will not increase appeal.
 
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What if I'm a 4"11 aboriginal ?
 
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this is the advice 99% of people need, not discussing facial ratios like homos. You're born with good/average/bad genetics and there is nothing you can do apart from basic stuff everyone knows like get lean good hairstyle and shit. Surgery will only make your face look uncanny (excluding any major flaw maybe) and will not increase appeal.
surgeries and hardmaxxes are low ROI in terms of money/time spent and wont be something that makes a difference beyond rarely tipping the scales. just skinmaxx, minoxidil/growth serummaxx if youre eyebrowcel or eyelashcel and other high ROI stuff
 
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Ok OP. I'm a 5'10 Indian in the United States and I'm in my early 20s. I'm probably a 5/10 at the moment. What is my gameplan?
 
Ok OP. I'm a 5'10 Indian in the United States and I'm in my early 20s. I'm probably a 5/10 at the moment. What is my gameplan?
Yeah, op
zoomerAmerican walks into the bar, and these 2 are sitting down talking at a table talking as he's ordering his drink.
He wants to approach them
what is his 'opener' and what is his follow up/actual conversation starter?

 
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Yeah, op
zoomerAmerican walks into the bar, and these 2 are sitting down talking at a table talking as he's ordering his drink.
He wants to approach them
what is his 'opener' and what is his follow up/actual conversation starter?


- Hey how's your night going
- Hey what major are you in
- Hey I've seen you around, what's your name
- Hey I love your outfit

No "rizz" for your face/appeal, no amount of charisma is saving a 5/10 5'10 Indian in the West. He should know his realistic chances and only approach LTB pajeetas. Hell would freeze over before he strikes gold with a white MTB+ who's not an escort.
 
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this is the advice 99% of people need, not discussing facial ratios like homos. You're born with good/average/bad genetics and there is nothing you can do apart from basic stuff everyone knows like get lean good hairstyle and shit. Surgery will only make your face look uncanny (excluding any major flaw maybe) and will not increase appeal.
cope surgery would ascend most. I still wouldn't do it
 
Around my area the few clubs are nightmare mode if you aren't a pretty tall HTN or borderline Chadlite if not 6' or taller. About the only guys I see getting action from random females there that don't meet that criteria are the guys dealing drugs. I guess if you catch one pretty drunk without cockblocking friends it may happen on occasion. Some non-club bars are a little different though but the females that are interested will usually show it in some way. Holding eye contact longer than normal, touching your back with her hand as she walks by you etc. A HTN can do alright at bars here usually but it's still usually tough on MTNs and below. Don't ever buy a drink for her unless you know she is interested because they have no issue talking with the guy they are actually interested in after getting that free drink.
 
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Jfl, stop exaggerating the amount of privilege just being "white" gets you:lul:.
in 2025, its barely a 0.1 psl increase in some places, that's all
 
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Jfl, stop exaggerating the amount of privilege just being "white" gets you:lul:.
in 2025, its barely a 0.1 psl increase in some places, that's all
Lots of foids only fuck white guys, or at least have an overwhelming preference for white guys sexually. I have Black and NEA Chadlite+ (NT, gymmaxxed, tall) who have approximately the same slaying success as white low HTNs.

Being ethnic is the equivalent of a 1.5 tier disadvantage (ethnic Chadlite = white low HTN, ethnic MTN = white low LTN, etc in terms of SMV).
 
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Around my area the few clubs are nightmare mode if you aren't a pretty tall HTN or borderline Chadlite if not 6' or taller. About the only guys I see getting action from random females there that don't meet that criteria are the guys dealing drugs. I guess if you catch one pretty drunk without cockblocking friends it may happen on occasion. Some non-club bars are a little different though but the females that are interested will usually show it in some way. Holding eye contact longer than normal, touching your back with her hand as she walks by you etc. A HTN can do alright at bars here usually but it's still usually tough on MTNs and below. Don't ever buy a drink for her unless you know she is interested because they have no issue talking with the guy they are actually interested in after getting that free drink.
White tall NT gymmaxed HTN is good enough for 99% of social situations. You're overexaggerating, I've been clubbing/partying/bar hopping in VERY sexually competitive white high class places and the threshold to slay semi-consistently is 5'10+ white HTN with good frame.
 
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Lots of foids only fuck white guys, or at least have an overwhelming preference for white guys sexually. I have Black and NEA Chadlite+ (NT, gymmaxxed, tall) who have approximately the same slaying success as white low HTNs.

Being ethnic is the equivalent of a 1.5 tier disadvantage (ethnic Chadlite = white low HTN, ethnic MTN = white low LTN, etc in terms of SMV).
This ain't the dinosaur Era jfl, year on year, white smv only drops while ethnic and bbc smv rise. Also 1.5 psl drop:lul::forcedsmile:, sure buddy, whatever helps u cope. Its barely a 0.1-0.2 drop and that too in some some niche "white only" grps
 
This ain't the dinosaur Era jfl, year on year, white smv only drops while ethnic and bbc smv rise. Also 1.5 psl drop:lul::forcedsmile:, sure buddy, whatever helps u cope. Its barely a 0.1-0.2 drop and that too in some some niche "white only" grps
Keep coping ethnic boyo. The difference in SMV is even more pronounced for HIGH TIER foids like posh London private school WASP stacylites who wouldn't be caught with an ethnic otherwise it's social suicide for them.
 
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Keep coping ethnic boyo. The difference in SMV is even more pronounced for HIGH TIER foids like posh London private school WASP stacylites who wouldn't be caught with an ethnic otherwise it's social suicide for them.
Day by day, white SMV plummets while every other race ascends. Black representation explodes across media; the Kpop wave washes over continents; curries flood every nation under the sun; China eclipses America's fading glory. Meanwhile, white nations crumble into dust – Europe succumbing to Islamification, America as usual a puppet state for its Jewish masters, and Britain drowning in recession. No wonder cumskins are so desperate to cling to a dying idea jfl.
 
Day by day, white SMV plummets while every other race ascends. Black representation explodes across media; the Kpop wave washes over continents; curries flood every nation under the sun; China eclipses America's fading glory. Meanwhile, white nations crumble into dust – Europe succumbing to Islamification, America as usual a puppet state for its Jewish masters, and Britain drowning in recession. No wonder cumskins are so desperate to cling to a dying idea jfl.
Blacks have niche appeal for low class white girls. Kpop has niche appeal for nerdy ethnic girls and nerdy non-NT introverted white girls who rot in their room all day. Curries JFL. China is eclipsing the US, yes. The US has been an abomination of ethnics, jews and fake whites (meds/slavs) since it decided to be upstart and declare independence from the British Empire. Chinamen still have rock bottom SMV.

Britain is not in recession but our (WASPs) glory days are indeed behind us.
 
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Blacks have niche appeal for low class white girls. Kpop has niche appeal for nerdy ethnic girls and nerdy non-NT introverted white girls who rot in their room all day. Curries JFL. China is eclipsing the US, yes. The US has been an abomination of ethnics, jews and fake whites (meds/slavs) since it decided to be upstart and declare independence from the British Empire. Chinamen still have rock bottom SMV.

Britain is not in recession but our (WASPs) glory days are indeed behind us.
Firstly copium again jfl, black smv hasn't been as high as this ever, same with gooks.
And it's not niche :lul:. What's niche is a tiny minority of girls going for only whites, just like anyother race.

Yes currys:lul:, and again.....its yall's fault lmao, they are literal dollar store Jews who are taking over all the top gov and management positions in white countries. Whites Didn't learn shit from the Jews eh?:lul:

Whites maybe have a 0.5 psl increase in some specific places in 2025, nothing else....and that too is diminishing year on year
 
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White tall NT gymmaxed HTN is good enough for 99% of social situations. You're overexaggerating, I've been clubbing/partying/bar hopping in VERY sexually competitive white high class places and the threshold to slay semi-consistently is 5'10+ white HTN with good frame.

5'10 white HTN 6/10 has it real hard here at dance clubs when it comes to picking up females. Most I ever saw doing alright with a female were already with her and a group of people entering the place. Cold approach almost all of the under 6' 6/10 guys didn't get much going on. Clubs are just nightmare mode in this area compared to your basic bars.
 
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Feel free to ask for any specific advice you might want (How do I slay in x country, how do I slay if I'm x race, how do I slay if my voice is high pitched, etc). I have a huge social circle and I've went out in North America, Europe, East Asia and Oceania (Australia) before, so I know country-specific social and cultural norms when going out.
uk advice?
 
Should be put in the looksmax section so it can get best of the best
 
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Feel free to ask for any specific advice you might want (How do I slay in x country, how do I slay if I'm x race, how do I slay if my voice is high pitched, etc). I have a huge social circle and I've went out in North America, Europe, East Asia and Oceania (Australia) before, so I know country-specific social and cultural norms when going out.
minneapolis, 5’10 3/4, black MTN ill pm you my photo, have been rated ltn. Have a good voice just can’t do tonality or nt conversation
 
for a one-night stand and drunk slays, your face doesn't have to be great. Drunk foids in the dark can't see well and their judgement is impaired.
tread with caution here, slaying drunk foids is an ez way to catch a rape charge especially if ur ethnic
 
Here's a quick guide of first, the prerequisites to slay even semi-frequently (in the West), as well as tips on HOW to slay. I'm going to try to be as honest as possible and avoid ragebaiting ethnics/jews/manlets even though I usually do this because it's hilarious. A lot of these advice are context-dependent (country, social setting such as a college town vs big city), but I am going to focus on slaying in a college town in the US, as that's the most "generic" setting.

1. Prerequisites

- NT Race, you should ideally be White, Lightskin, Black, Latino or Mixed. Increasingly nowadays, you can also be Northeast Asian on the West Coast (SoCal for instance) or New England (big liberal diverse cities like Boston). Northeast Asians are also acceptable in places in the West where they're considered "exotic" due to their rarity, these countries are often also exposed to Korean/Japanese/Chinese media, making being Northeast Asian "NT" (Ex: Scandinavia, Ireland, Scotland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France).

- At Least Average Height (For Whites), this would be a TRUE 5'10/178cm (barefoot afternoon height) in most places in the US as well as South Europe. For North/Western Europe, you want to be at least a TRUE 5'11.5/182cm (barefoot afternoon height)

- NT Haircut, which means a mullet or fratty flow in the US/Australia, or the "chav" haircut (French Crop/Broccoli Cut) in the UK, or a middle part/lax flow in Germany/Scandinavia. For blacks, this could mean dreadlocks or cornrows.

- NT Skin/Clothes/Facial Expressions, you should have acne-free skin that isn't pale (in a basement gamer way, not a high-class pale way) or greasy, as well as NT clothes (depends heavily on country) as well as facial expressions. Learn how to smile (not too much gum exposure, wrinkle eyes and eyebrows right) and how to move your eyebrows to convey different emotions. The way your lips move when you talk should also be NT.

- NT Voice, your voice should be relatively deep and NT to the local dialect (fratccent in the US, Recieved Pronunciation in the UK, hockey accent in Canada, etc). Also learn how to control pitch, tonality and convey sarcasm, seriousness, confusion and sexual tension with your words and tone/pitch effectively.

- Social Proof, you need to have a friend group at the bar/club you're in at the MINIMUM, going alone is a non-NT dealbreaker. If you know the bartenders and bouncers and can dap them up or make small talk, even better for social proof. Same with seeing random fellow NT white moggers (tall HTN+) and dapping them up, this is all social proof.

- Low HTN+ Face, for a one-night stand and drunk slays, your face doesn't have to be great. Drunk foids in the dark can't see well and their judgement is impaired.

- Be Naturally Extroverted or Use Drugs, stuff like Adderall/Cocaine/Alcohol all helps. This will loosen up your body language and facial expressions to seem more NT.

- Decent to Good Body, you can be anything between a starvemaxxed twink to an athletic lean physique to a blocky bodybuilder physique. Each one has appeal to different races of girls. Starvemaxxed twink = maximum appeal for NT white girls and asian girls, athletic lean = mixed appeal to white girls, latinas and black girls, bodybuilder physique for maximum appeal to black and latina girls. Just don't be fat is law.

2. General Guidelines (no I'm not going to give a step by step detailed tutorial on how to get pussy for you incels)
- Always keep your confidence up, as soon as you start feeling insecure or down, your chances for slaying the rest of the night goes to near 0. Tons of girls have big egos, boyfriends, "situationships" where they're technically single but madly in love with a tall chadlite+ that they can't get commitment from, etc. Other girls are just flat out racist and will not date or hook up with outside a certain race (southern/rich white girls only hooking up with white guys, hood/liberal black girls only hooking up with black guys, slavic girls only going for slavic guys, asian girls only going for asian/white guys, etc).

- Don't expect girls to approach you, even in slutty environments such as college bars on holidays (halloweekend, homecoming, frat/sorority events, freshers week, rush week, etc) or spring break/clubbing destinations (Miami, Puerto Rico, Cancun, Ibiza, Mykonos, Mallorca). However, they will approach you occasionally or if they're super hammered or if you're VERY good looking (chances are you're not on this forum if you are), or if they have a fetish for your race/height.

- Always look NT. Don't go on your phone often and if you do, only go on NT apps such as Instagram, Snapchat or iMessage. The last thing you want is to go on Looksmax.org and have stacy passing behind you see you on this unholy site. A trick is to sip your drink slowly so you always have something to do with your hands, otherwise it's easy to look awkward with empty hands. Also, you don't need to dance, but bop your head or frat flick (both NT moves). You can also talk to random people or your friend group, that's NT too.

- Catcalling girls on the streets (when you're walking to/from the bars) isn't a terrible move, you can generally pull it off if you're at least tall white HTN+. Lots of attractive NT slayers I know do this and they get away with it because they're NT and attractive. Nobody will give you shit for it or react negatively if you're tall white HTN+. Don't go as far as groping them though.

- WHILE SOBER, come up with a mental plan to escalate from any makeouts to sex. For example, mentally map out a Makeout -> Buy Drinks -> Flirt Further -> Dance/Grind -> Ask To Go Outside -> Get Uber Back to your place/dorm/hostel. This will make it MUCH easier to actually act on potential slays and escalate when you get hammered.

- Even if this might hurt your ego, only approach girls that you have a realistic shot with. If you're a 5'6 beaner, don't approach 5'11 aryan stacy. Same if you're 5'7 asian twink, don't approach the latina with tattoos who's ex is a 6'6 black football player. At this point in life, you should have an idea of the races/phenos most attracted to you. You can tell what the type of guys they're into by how they dress (sorority-like, alt, etc).

- Look for girls who look approachable (dancing provocatively, clearly hammered, dressed sluttily, touching guys, giving you looks), don't go for the girls with a resting bitch face with her arms crossed and on her phone on Snapchat/Messages. Should be obvious but some of you are non-NT autists.

- Go to the smoke break area and ask girls for lighters, instant NT conversation starter and approach method. Plus, this is a quiet and less crowded place for an actual conversation where you can hopefully leverage your NTness into an advantage, rather than pure looks. Also the lighting here is brighter, making face/PSL more important and height/frame decisively less so as opposed to a dark and blurry dance floor.
dnr isn’t hard just larp drinking alcohol then rape drunk bitches.
 
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tread with caution here, slaying drunk foids is an ez way to catch a rape charge especially if ur ethnic
lol didn’t realise this comment is just above mine
 
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uk advice?
from what i know nigga its slut capital of the world, i think love island pheno or med pheno works best here, lots of anglo foids are down bad for spanish/italian pheno guys. gymcelling is definitely more useful here too
 
minneapolis, 5’10 3/4, black MTN ill pm you my photo, have been rated ltn. Have a good voice just can’t do tonality or nt conversation
height isnt great for blacks, i dont think face matters much for blacks, most white foids cant tell an attractive black from a non attractive one apart from skin color and eye color. for blacks, NT, height, frame and hair are key i feel like. max out hair and skin too
 
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height isnt great for blacks, i dont think face matters much for blacks, most white foids cant tell an attractive black from a non attractive one apart from skin color and eye color. for blacks, NT, height, frame and hair are key i feel like. max out hair and skin too
thank you
 

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