So how do i play off the "r u pro life question"

[LowTierBateman]

no correlation

Arguing for an hour over something pointless is high iq nowadays

 

[Alexg_lover]

There is no reason to believe that a fetus can experience consciousness without thalamocortical connections, and therefore no real reason to be anti-abortion/pro-life. The only thing you could argue is that it's always (or nearly always) going to be better for the parent and/or child, but I don't see how one would derive that logically. Maybe you want some specific population trends and therefore more babies overall (implying no abortion), but I think such ideological beliefs become secondary to bodily autonomy. Besides, there are much better ways to incentivize population growth (like specific policies granting young adults economic benefits for having children and/or getting married)

@thecaste

 

[yushmaxx]

Prolly thinks that by defending foids hed get laid

my nigga do you realize what site we are on

what foids?

can you tag them or something

i’m tryna get laid

 

[thecaste]

Arguing for an hour over something pointless is high iq nowadays

arguing is never pointless. thinking it's pointless and not caring is low iq.

 

[iblamexyz]

Youre clearly not high iq if you feel the need to do this

no correlation

what about the ad hominem you were going to pull @ me?

if say I was to say ugly or even uglier than you? What would your response be? That I'm pro life because I'm ugly?

of course whores exist

but you can’t predicate a whole argument about abortion off the anecdotal experience of one dude getting no play

but it's not of one dude. You do realise that you can see the statistics for how many abortions have happened this year or last year. You do realise that they don't come from thin air, they come from promiscuous people and being degenerates

why are people who obviously don't fuck so obessed with muhh whores. why would you even know jfl.

well either because they can't get them or because we can acknowledge that someone being a degenerate isn't a good thing for soyciety

Im wondering if this thread will get atleast 3 pages

atp probs

 

[thecaste]

There is no reason to believe that a fetus can experience consciousness without thalamocortical connections, and therefore no real reason to be anti-abortion/pro-life. The only thing you could argue is that it's always (or nearly always) going to be better for the parent and/or child, but I don't see how one would derive that logically. Maybe you want some specific population trends and therefore more babies overall (implying no abortion), but I think such ideological beliefs become secondary to bodily autonomy. Besides, there are much better ways to incentivize population growth (like specific policies granting young adults economic benefits for having children and/or getting married)

@thecaste

perfectly said, thank you.

anyone of you dimwits care to provide a coherent counterargument not involving "muhh whore"?

 

[LowTierBateman]

arguing is never pointless. thinking it's pointless and not caring is low iq.

Arguing is always pointless

U will never get anywhere arguing with someone all day unless the other person stops caring

 

[iblamexyz]

arguing is never pointless. thinking it's pointless and not caring is low iq.

I'm not really interested in geopolitics. Sure, my profile might look like a very political profile but it's not really.

I'm just choosing to not ignore what's happening in the UK and again this is a separate issue you said that I'm a puppet or that me and another user are a puppet for the elites but you care about pro choice and pro life, doesn't that make you a puppet?

 

[yushmaxx]

arguing is never pointless. thinking it's pointless and not caring is low iq.

it’s honestly fun to a argue

 

[thecaste]

well either because they can't get them or because we can acknowledge that someone being a degenerate isn't a good thing for soyciety

you don't apply the same standars to men. somehow it's being idolized on here to behave like clav, be a drug addict, treat women and service workers and whoever like complete shit, fuck a new girl every night etc.
yall are not being consistent. I wouldn't mind if you were actually religious or had a moral compass but you don't; you just hate women.

 

[iblamexyz]

perfectly said, thank you.

anyone of you dimwits care to provide a coherent counterargument not involving "muhh whore"?

are you kidding me? that's the worst word slop I am yet to read

If he was opposing your argument and he used the exact same talking points that he used, you would literally be calling him ugly or some other ad hominem

 

[Euron]

do you guys live in the real word? do you think you get laid when acting muhh alpha and tuff?
talk to me again when you're an adult.

Well i dont hide almost anything when talking w foids n yet still have them actively messaging me

 

[Euron]

Arguing for an hour over something pointless is high iq nowadays

Its pretty entertaining

 

[iblamexyz]

yall are not being consistent. I wouldn't mind if you were actually religious or had a moral compass but you don't; you just hate women.

I've mentioned many times I am a Christcel on the forum jfl

But once again if I'm using religion, this is a separate conversation and again I know how users feel about religion. It's either hit or miss

Once again I'm calling both parties degenerates. I'm saying that the men, which I've already stated and clarified early in this thread, that them paying for abortions is a degenerate activity. Right there are repercussions for your actions, along with women sleeping with men, which is also degenerate behavior

I have been very consistent. I haven't just called women slurs and said men can slay

 

[yushmaxx]

but it's not of one dude. You do realise that you can see the statistics for how many abortions have happened this year or last year. You do realise that they don't come from thin air, they come from promiscuous people and being degenerates

you want these “degenerate whores” to spawn fatherless broken and impoverished kids?

what good does that do for society?

just going to increase crime rate, poverty, and fatherlessness even more

 

[Euron]

The low quality post i made for the sake of posting is gaining some pretty serious attention

 

[Gargantuan]

Why do you even accept their frame to begin with? You don't need to justify being pro-life and pro-human in general jfl, that's what you are supposed to be naturally.

Pro-death advocates are not even human, they are subhumans because they promote death, so you don't owe them shit.

 

[thecaste]

View attachment 5259398
The low quality post i made for the sake of posting is gaining some pretty serious attention

you can thank me later

 

[thecaste]

Why do you even accept their frame to begin with? You don't need to justify being pro-life and pro-human in general jfl, that's what you are supposed to be naturally.

Pro-death advocates are not even human, they are subhumans because they promote death, so you don't owe them shit.

pro abortion doesn't mean pro death, what even is this stupid narrative

 

[Euron]

you can thank me later

U n iblamexyz be carrying the whole thread

 

[thecaste]

U n iblamexyz be carrying the whole thread

we are the goats @iblamexyz

 

[yushmaxx]

Why do you even accept their frame to begin with? You don't need to justify being pro-life and pro-human in general jfl, that's what you are supposed to be naturally.

Pro-death advocates are not even human, they are subhumans because they promote death, so you don't owe them shit.

absolute iqlet retard take nobody here wants humans to die.

the argument being held here is if a unconscious fetus is worthy of being held in the same moral frame as a normal human being.

your completely misrepresenting the pro choice argument to fit your needs

 

[iblamexyz]

pro abortion doesn't mean pro death, what even is this stupid narrative

what do you think happens during an abortion? You are aware that during an abortion the baby is killed

you want these “degenerate whores” to spawn fatherless broken and impoverished kids?

Once again there are consequences for your actions. Maybe they should close their legs but if that's not an option, there are loads of loving parents who would love to take that child into the adoption scheme. There are tons of children who, if they got adopted, would actually feel loved and cherished.

 

[thecaste]

what do you think happens during an abortion? You are aware that during an abortion the baby is killed

Once again there are consequences for your actions. Maybe they should close their legs but if that's not an option, there are loads of loving parents who would love to take that child into the adoption scheme. There are tons of children who, if they got adopted, would actually feel loved and cherished.

THERE IS NO BABY
are u familiar with basic biology?

 

[iblamexyz]

absolute iqlet retard take nobody here wants humans to die.

By supporting abortion or the industry or even women to be promiscuous in order to pass the law for children to get killed, it is enforcing babies to not get a chance in life and to die.

You don't have to be a morafag or even muh left to acknowledge that when a child is being killed, that's pretty bad

 

[Alexg_lover]

are you kidding me? that's the worst word slop I am yet to read

Feel free to critique my arguments. I would normally have written something more elaborate, but I didn’t feel like it

 

[thecaste]

what do you think happens during an abortion? You are aware that during an abortion the baby is killed

Once again there are consequences for your actions. Maybe they should close their legs but if that's not an option, there are loads of loving parents who would love to take that child into the adoption scheme. There are tons of children who, if they got adopted, would actually feel loved and cherished.

again: "they should close their legs"; you solely blame the woman even though both parties took part in the sexual activity.
no consistency. you are just a misogynist.

 

[thecaste]

By supporting abortion or the industry or even women to be promiscuous in order to pass the law for children to get killed, it is enforcing babies to not get a chance in life and to die.

You don't have to be a morafag or even muh left to acknowledge that when a child is being killed, that's pretty bad

"the industry"
you really think there is an abortion "industry"? are you schizophrenic?

 

[yushmaxx]

what do you think happens during an abortion? You are aware that during an abortion the baby is killed

Once again there are consequences for your actions. Maybe they should close their legs but if that's not an option, there are loads of loving parents who would love to take that child into the adoption scheme. There are tons of children who, if they got adopted, would actually feel loved and cherished.

name one time in recorded human history telling people to “close their legs” has ever worked

why do you think india has a billion people even in the dirtiest shittiest conditons?


also, during a abortion, in the vast majority of them, an unviable fetus is killed, not a baby. it cannot sustain life outside the womb

 

[yushmaxx]

By supporting abortion or the industry or even women to be promiscuous in order to pass the law for children to get killed, it is enforcing babies to not get a chance in life and to die.

You don't have to be a morafag or even muh left to acknowledge that when a child is being killed, that's pretty bad

not a child.

it isn’t viable yet.

 

[Gargantuan]

Why do you even accept their frame to begin with? You don't need to justify being pro-life and pro-human in general jfl, that's what you are supposed to be naturally.

Pro-death advocates are not even human, they are subhumans because they promote death, so you don't owe them shit.

Looks like the pro-death crowd found my comment.

Always nice to be proven right.

 

[thecaste]

Looks like the pro-death crowd found my comment.

Always nice to be proven right.

0/10 ragebait

 

[midfacedeficient]

no woman wants to have an abortion cause it's fun and nice,

what planet are you from over 95% of them are done without reason

 

[iblamexyz]

again: "they should close their legs"; you solely blame the woman even though both parties took part in the sexual activity.
no consistency. you are just a misogynist.

Okay sure because I'm only holding women responsible for it because again there are other things like hypergamy whereas statistically it's just easier for them to hook up and as women are the birth givers, I'm just giving them more responsibility.

but I don't have a problem with giving equal responsibility. Men shouldn't be being degenerate either. Hook up culture isn't positive for soyciety in any regard so if they want to continue being the degenerates, they should understand the responsibilities of what's going to happen when you impregnate a woman or at least use protection if you plan on being a degenerate.

"the industry"
you really think there is an abortion "industry"? are you schizophrenic?

But once again you called me a puppet for being into geopolitics. Again do you really not think there are people behind there?

If you're anti Semitic, you'd probably say the Jews are behind it. If you are religious, you'd probably say Satan is behind it but do you really not think that someone is there to profit from aborted babies?

not a child.

it isn’t viable yet.

THERE IS NO BABY
are u familiar with basic biology?

agree to disagree regardless of what you think in terms of what happens in the womb, that baby is definitely missing out on the opportunity to live

I'm not interested in whether you think it is an embryo or not but the choice is when you do an abortion you do murder the baby. Its limbs are literally being ripped apart. If that were to happen to puppies or something like that, would you really still have the same ideology if puppies were to get aborted?

 

[thecaste]

what planet are you from over 95% of them are done without reason

just because you don't deem it as a viable reason doesn't mean that it was done "without reason". nobody voluntarily gets pregnant just to get an abortion.

 

[yushmaxx]

Looks like the pro-death crowd found my comment.

Always nice to be proven right.

You can’t change a retards mind.

This is the same thing you see any conspiracy theorist, political extremist, and general schizophrenic do.

Make up a false narrative about the other side, take any opposition as reenforcement about their narrative, and then finally declare themselves the winner and disengage from the argument.

All while maintaining moral superiority.

what a fucking retard
dnr fag

 

[tarkdriad33]

theres this thing called lying

 

[midfacedeficient]

just because you don't deem it as a viable reason doesn't mean that it was done "without reason". nobody voluntarily gets pregnant just to get an abortion.

trying to justify killing children just to have a 2% higher chance at getting a girl is prime incel behavior

 

[thecaste]

But once again you called me a puppet for being into geopolitics. Again do you really not think there are people behind there?

If you're anti Semitic, you'd probably say the Jews are behind it. If you are religious, you'd probably say Satan is behind it but do you really not think that someone is there to profit

agree to an extent, of course there are people who profit from it, but there is no "industry", the costs to get an abortion are low and the abortion rate is not that high either. it's not scaleable either.

agree to disagree regardless of what you think in terms of what happens in the womb, that baby is definitely missing out on the opportunity to live

you can't just disagree with facts bro

 

[Euron]

theres this thing called lying

Meh, i think she already knew what id say anyways

 

[thecaste]

trying to justify killing children just to have a 2% higher chance at getting a girl is prime incel behavior

it's baffling how low iq you are
nobody said anything abt killing children. and if you think this is about "getting girls", you are projecting.

 

[iblamexyz]

agree to an extent, of course there are people who profit from it, but there is no "industry", the costs to get an abortion are low and the abortion rate is not that high either. it's not scaleable either.

you can't just disagree with facts bro

When I mean industry, I don't necessarily mean an organization which is collecting money from killing babies or killing babies for pleasure as a whole. What is the long term goal?

Okay so I won't disagree with facts. Fact is when a woman's impregnated, that is a child in there

 

[thecaste]

Okay so I won't disagree with facts. Fact is when a woman's impregnated, that is a child in there

it's just not. there's a reason why murdering a freshly pregnant woman is not double homicide. it's POTENTIAL life.

When I mean industry, I don't necessarily mean an organization which is collecting money from killing babies or killing babies for pleasure as a whole. What is the long term goal?

yeah, what is the long term goal? you think the long term goal is to get women to have daily abortions or what?
there is no long term goal, my god. it's healthcare.

 

[Alexg_lover]

there are loads of loving parents who would love to take that child into the adoption scheme. There are tons of children who, if they got adopted, would actually feel loved and cherished.

There are far more babies and children in need of adoptive families than there are people willing to adopt. What you're suggesting would, in practice, just result in more children in orphanages or foster care. Why would one wish that upon a baby for no reason? The alternative isn't death; it's just not being born at all. That's a state of neutrality. I'm also yet to mention the psychological effects having an unwanted child can have on the parents, especially the mother. When you don't want your baby, you're likely not going to be as good of a parent as you would have been otherwise. Women seeking abortion are also often in financially unfortunate situations, again contributing to a poor environment for the children.

Once again there are consequences for your actions. Maybe they should close their legs but if that's not an option

But then again, why should there be, when there is no drawback to removing it? I don't think bodily autonomy triumphs over an actual baby... that would be insane. But given that there is no conscious living being, I don't see why we wouldn't make life easier for them. More importantly, not give the children a disadvantage from the start

 

[iblamexyz]

it's just not. there's a reason why murdering a freshly pregnant woman is not double homicide. it's POTENTIAL life.

yeah, what is the long term goal? you think the long term goal is to get women to have daily abortions or what?
there is no long term goal, my god. it's healthcare.

calling murder healthcare is cagefuel

 

[Gargantuan]

Looks like the pro-death crowd found my comment.

Always nice to be proven right.

The pro-death lobby is working overtime tonight. Always a good sign that the message reached its intended audience.

 

[thecaste]

calling murder healthcare is cagefuel

you keep shifting the narrative. it's useless.
you can't just make up your own facts and present it as the objective truth.
it's not murder under any law nor is it life biologically speaking. how are you getting through day to day life with that mindset?

 

[Euron]

Ts keeps on getting more viewers prolly soon theres gonna be 4th page aswell

 

[thecaste]

Ts keeps on getting more viewers prolly soon theres gonna be 4th page aswell

it's sad seeing you adopting these retarded viewpoints. I hope you'll grow out of it.

 

[iblamexyz]

you keep shifting the narrative. it's useless.
you can't just make up your own facts and present it as the objective truth.
it's not murder under any law nor is it life biologically speaking. how are you getting through day to day life with that mindset?

I would argue that a baby limbs being ripped apart is straight murder but okay

There are far more babies and children in need of adoptive families than there are people willing to adopt. What you're suggesting would, in practice, just result in more children in orphanages or foster care. Why would one wish that upon a baby for no reason? The alternative isn't death; it's just not being born at all. That's a state of neutrality. I'm also yet to mention the psychological effects having an unwanted child can have on the parents, especially the mother. When you don't want your baby, you're likely not going to be as good of a parent as you would have been otherwise. Women seeking abortion are also often in financially unfortunate situations, again contributing to a poor environment for the children.


But then again, why should there be, when there is no drawback to removing it? I don't think bodily autonomy triumphs over an actual baby... that would be insane. But given that there is no conscious living being, I don't see why we wouldn't make life easier for them. More importantly, not give the children a disadvantage from the start

once again the solution is to not be a degenerate. If you have sex, you are aware of the repercussions. If you aren't, you're welcome to use protection. It's why it exists. I might disagree with it but it doesn't matter. It exists for a reason.

And statistically speaking we are very much underpopulated. I mean right now women's childbearing years are being lost due to them craving chad and getting piped.

women naturally want to be a mother and men naturally want to be fathers. How easy do you think you'll be able to have a child when you're in your 30s/40s?

Along with that yes then being in an orphanage is far greater, or even an adoption centre, than not being alive at all. Would you prefer your life as it is right now or if you were aborted? I'm asking you genuinely. Is your life quite good at the moment or do you enjoy life or would you prefer being aborted?