Solving a long midface in it’s root cause as much as possible

Wasn't there someone from the .net or lokism days that had le fort 3 CCW as a non-deformed? He mentioned it gave him like 2 PSL + or something. I once saw a thread but cannot find it right now.
 
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Wasn't there someone from the .net or lokism days that had le fort 3 CCW as a non-deformed? He mentioned it gave him like 2 PSL + or something. I once saw a thread but cannot find it right now.
Read a guy on jawforums had it.
 
You sure its long midface?

Jut your jaw out as far as possible. Does it still look long?
 
i cant believe we have to resort to expensive af life threatening face breaking bone drilling surgeries just to get ideal facial ratios so an average woman can maybe love us
long midface is the most unfixable failo it seems. very brutal.
 

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