SSRIs arethe biggest life ruiners looksmin you can do

[Magical Apple]

Literally taking opiates is better. @Thomas DOM

Everyone Ik who has gotten on ssris has gained a beer gut and become even more miserable. SSRIs are literal poison and should be made illegal. Never touch ssris.

@Manchild

 

[Son of gigachad]

check out ray peat's work in relationship to serotonin being a major stress hormone for the most part implicated in essentially any pathology and how many people kill themselves on SSRI's. he passed away a few days ago, this seemed like a good chance to pass on some of his wisdom that changed my life completely. i doubt this thread will gain traction but to anyone who sees this, never ever under any circumstance take SSRI's unless if u find a way to truly microdose them for an allopregnenolone boost at least short term, which still is nothing special that cant be replicated more safely and efficiently with actually good drugs.

 

[fauxfox]

I'm on Wellbutrin tbh, what do you think of it?
My doctor is young and somewhat blackpilled so I trust his advice tbh

 

[Moggie]

check out ray peat's work in relationship to serotonin being a major stress hormone for the most part implicated in essentially any pathology and how many people kill themselves on SSRI's. he passed away a few days ago, this seemed like a good chance to pass on some of his wisdom that changed my life completely. i doubt this thread will gain traction but to anyone who sees this, never ever under any circumstance take SSRI's unless if u find a way to truly microdose them for an allopregnenolone boost at least short term, which still is nothing special that cant be replicated more safely and efficiently with actually good drugs.

rip already fried my brain

 

[Son of gigachad]

opiates also suck ass and raise prolactin and can give u nightmare withdrawls, but they still mogg SSRI's if not abused, not sure by how much. dopaminergic drugs are by far the best route, and u should still research them a lot both anecdotes and if u can handle science literature, dive into it. bromantane aka ladasten is the ubermogger and is actually safe, but expensive and hard to get a hold of

 

[Magical Apple]

I'm on Wellbutrin tbh, what do you think of it?
My doctor is young and somewhat blackpilled so I trust his advice tbh

any antidepressant is bullshit. Most of the time, depression isn't a neurological illness like schizo.

 

[Moggie]

any antidepressant is bullshit. Most of the time, depression isn't a neurological illness like schizo.

Depression is a true neurological disease associated with dysfunction of specific brain regions and not simply a consequence of bad lifestyles and psychological weakness, according to researchers.

 

[TheAbyssinian]

How else are people supposed to deal with compulsive stress or depression outside of SSRI's? Every other method feels like snake oil...

 

[Magical Apple]

check out ray peat's work in relationship to serotonin being a major stress hormone for the most part implicated in essentially any pathology and how many people kill themselves on SSRI's. he passed away a few days ago, this seemed like a good chance to pass on some of his wisdom that changed my life completely. i doubt this thread will gain traction but to anyone who sees this, never ever under any circumstance take SSRI's unless if u find a way to truly microdose them for an allopregnenolone boost at least short term, which still is nothing special that cant be replicated more safely and efficiently with actually good drugs.

Modern drugs for neurotransmitters are the equivalent of medieval blood letting. Modern psychology is literally astrology.

 

[Magical Apple]

Depression is a true neurological disease associated with dysfunction of specific brain regions and not simply a consequence of bad lifestyles and psychological weakness, according to researchers.

Its only legit if you are experiencing true nervous system depression. E.g. being nearly catatonic.

 

[Moggie]

I'm on Wellbutrin tbh, what do you think of it?
My doctor is young and somewhat blackpilled so I trust his advice tbh

guessing you are on that one as it is not associated with weight gain?

 

[fauxfox]

guessing you are on that one as it is not associated with weight gain?

Yes it kills appetite and pushes my sex drive through the roof. I feel kinda insane on this shit. I take breaks every now and tbh against doctor's wishes.

any antidepressant is bullshit. Most of the time, depression isn't a neurological illness like schizo.

So what kind of illness is it and how can I treat depression/lack of motivation. I feel like I'm wasting so much potential and my brain feels foggy. Is it porn? Lack of discipline?

 

[Son of gigachad]

rip already fried my brain

its never too late bro, the body has immense regenerative capacity if -- and thats a big if - it receives proper nutritional enviromental and social support. try to taper off, withdrawls are often the worst part, fixing serotonin transporter ( SERT ) is the one thing that doesnt resolve with time i read once. some probiotics such as l. rhamnosus GG, reuteri , bacillus coagulans and ginger are great for this as well as anything else that lowers inflammation including aspirin, ginger also lowers serotonin in other ways and in the gut, which is where most of this damage occurs, and 95 percent of total serotonin is expressed. your gut is literally your second brain in so many ways from absorving nutrients and removing toxins to your enteric nervous system, and is what makes or breaks being high T etc. dopamine is largely antagonistic to serotonin and is actually the juice of moggers and a good life in general. but thats a big topic. i can briefly write more ways to lower inflammation if you want, hope it helped

 

[Magical Apple]

Yes it kills appetite and pushes my sex drive through the roof. I feel kinda insane on this shit. I take breaks every now and tbh against doctor's wishes.

So what kind of illness is it and how can I treat depression/lack of motivation. I feel like I'm wasting so much potential and my brain feels foggy. Is it porn? Lack of discipline?

Its due to lack of proper mental stimulation and neural pathways. People become depressed when they are faced with tasks they cannot see themselves overcoming or are stuck in a life that is meaningless.

 

[Gonthar]

check out ray peat's work in relationship to serotonin being a major stress hormone for the most part implicated in essentially any pathology and how many people kill themselves on SSRI's. he passed away a few days ago,

Hold on, Ray Peat just died?
A suspicious numbers of self-proclaimed health and nutrition gurus, tend to die prematurely or of various diseases that their methods could allegedly cure.

 

[Son of gigachad]

Its only legit if you are experiencing true nervous system depression. E.g. being nearly catatonic.

a spectrum exists for all ilnesses, one doesnt go from a great gut straight to full blown sepsis, just like old people dont get age spots overnight. even if one is bipolar and has great mood swings, damage still occurs progressively in a chronic manner depending on many factors and its the same degenerative pattern for depression, its well known inflammatory markers are high in depressed people no matter if it stems from social isolation , lack of sunlight, emf radiation, chemicals, severe deficiencies/allergies or a combo of a number of these and other things.
excluding insane amounts of stress leading to a heart attack or a stroke or a clot, or smth like mad cow disease which can take u out 0 to 100 in a few months if u dont have adequate mitochondrial health to endure the prion attack.

 

[fauxfox]

Its due to lack of proper mental stimulation and neural pathways. People become depressed when they are faced with tasks they cannot see themselves overcoming or are stuck in a life that is meaningless.

I get what you mean by stuck in a life that's meaningless. My experience has been feeling lost and unable to escape my predicament because of my lack of willpower. Like I know what I have to do but I've long since realized it's not in my nature to do it. I'm willingly lost.

 

[Moggie]

Hold on, Ray Peat just died?
A suspicious numbers of self-proclaimed health and nutrition gurus, tend to die prematurely or of various diseases that their methods could allegedly cure.

yeah he didnt live to 110 but it isnt like he died at 60

 

[MoggerGaston]

its normal to be depressed when your life circumstances are shit.

Aka when you lose a loved one, are diagnosed with a serious disease, lose your job, etc.

Also when you are an average male worker wageslave that has barely any social connection and no girlfriend.

 

[Moggie]

Its due to lack of proper mental stimulation and neural pathways. People become depressed when they are faced with tasks they cannot see themselves overcoming or are stuck in a life that is meaningless.

how to fix?

 

[Son of gigachad]

Hold on, Ray Peat just died?
A suspicious numbers of self-proclaimed health and nutrition gurus, tend to die prematurely or of various diseases that their methods could allegedly cure.

it is entirely possible that he made dietary or so mistakes that contributed to, or even caused his death. that being said, having a skin that clean of lipofuscin ( age spots ) at 86, despite some talking problems he had for a while now, shows great longevity to me. the world is incredibly stressful at the time, and the toxins he was near constantly exposed to endogenously or exogenously almost certainly played a massive role. we still cant truly rule out forces of evil staging his death, smth about a documentary that everyone asked is dead supposedly adds fuel to conspiracies, havent looked into it yet.
i dont idolize him, and i dont agree with all he says, and he always advocated for challenging the status quo and old ideas. his legacy leaves on therefore, as a brilliant mind and the bravery to stand against the establishment and big food/pharma terrorism, and not as a guru

 

[Deleted member 15468]

idk they improved my quality of life immensely

I also trust my psychiatrist who studied medicine for a decade more than incels on a forum

also SSRI aren't just for depression, they help immensely for anxiety too

 

[lasthope]

What about short acting ssris like dapoxetine?

 

[Son of gigachad]

idk they improved my quality of life immensely

I also trust my psychiatrist who studied medicine for a decade more than incels on a forum

also SSRI aren't just for depression, they help immensely for anxiety too

how long have u been on what and what dosage if i may ask, im always open to anecdotes and re evaluating beliefs. but in all odds, u are at a low dosage of a SSRI that isnt entirely serotonergic, and u havent been on it that long so it still works in a hormetic manner, but over time you'll almost certainly find yourself in deep deep water as millions before u have. there is a massive scientidic literature on the dangers of excess serotonin that is constantly ignored and suppressed. putting your trust in your doctor isnt a dumb thing to do at all, it makes so much sense enstictively - but if u see how deep the rabbit hole of corruption goes, you'll be filled with doubt, no doubt. been studying medicine on my own these past few years when i realized the docs didnt know how to help me, and its not their fault, its a system bought by entirely, as cliche as it sounds.

 

[Son of gigachad]

its normal to be depressed when your life circumstances are shit.

Aka when you lose a loved one, are diagnosed with a serious disease, lose your job, etc.

Also when you are an average male worker wageslave that has barely any social connection and no girlfriend.

you are absolutely correct, but it goes way beyond that many times. even chads feel depressed sometimes or at least fatigued and drained in an enviroment as sick and polluted as ours, and its bound to get worse. their diagnoses are usually dogshit. countless people live decades past what is often predicted, we have proof lowering cortisol ( stress ) reverses even "terminal" cancers , and ofc their BS pills ( tylenol/panadol , statins, opiates, SSRIs, many antibiotics etc are well established potent toxins with known mechanisms of action to explain the damage ) and radiation treatments ( actual insanity to nuke someone trynna "kill" a cancer ) make the disease progress even faster. seen it all happen again and again far too many times

 

[BoneDensity]

Depression is a true neurological disease associated with dysfunction of specific brain regions

That doesn't mean it can't be caused by lifestyle, habits or mindset. The way you think has a tangible physical effect on you just like your physicality has an effect on the way you think.

not simply a consequence of bad lifestyles and psychological weakness, according to researchers.

This is an assumption not the logical conclusion. They have no idea if that's true.

 

[BoneDensity]

Hold on, Ray Peat just died?

The nigga was 86 years old

 

[Moggie]

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[Deleted member 19865]

Most people I know of who wound up taking SSRIs didn't seem any happier, just more irritable and emotional.

Serotonin isn't a "pleasure chemical" like endorphine, or a motivating chemical like dopamine, it's just a general modulating chemical that's purpose is more for the interpretation of emotional intensity than the actual positivity of said emotion. More serotonin = more intense emotional responses, hence higher risks of anger outbursts, crime, and suicide for those on SSRIs.

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Finally ppl are saying it. SSRIs and modern science about psychology is literally snake oil and astrology nonsense. Pure deception. Astrology might even be more legit actually. The person even diagnosing you is probably legitimately schizo or dark triad. Humans dont even know the bottom of the sea or can combat homelessness in todays time but people think they understand the human brain.

People idolize and meatride the medical industry too hard nowadays. Like, they need to understand what they are taking and start acting like the internet exists. because i can bet you its literal thousands of better remedy's out there. Too much information in todays time to be glazing the med industry that hard. Can literally find better alternatives browsing reddit and talking to drugmaxxed ppl on psychonaut forums. Id bet you couldn't even find a doctor that can break the chemical effects down like the people in these comments could. How many of them talk about serotonin?

i can imagine some soy or fem natured guy revealing his struggles too much, or getting too emotional about them without pilling himself with knowledge. Hes ignorant and does not realize that his pressure and anxiety is probably legitimately a result of the world we live in. Next thing u know hes at the doc getting culled and castrated. Like, of course their going to sterilize your behavior. This world is insane anyways. Do these goys think the system needs rebels and outliers? The world setup is legitimately crazy, gigahigh anxiety and depression is actually a totally normal reaction.

 

[Deleted member 23115]

they permanently changed my personality

never take this shit please

 

[Gonthar]

The nigga was 86 years old

He claimed in an interview it was possible to live forever:
- In an ideal environment in all aspects of the word ideal (mind, body, spirit), how long do you believe our bodies were designed to live?
- I have never seen evidence that they contain any principle of mortality, and in recent years the suspicion that we contain all the equipment needed for perpetual renewal, given the right circumstances, is seeming to be increasingly plausible.

 

[Deleted member 15468]

how long have u been on what and what dosage if i may ask, im always open to anecdotes and re evaluating beliefs. but in all odds, u are at a low dosage of a SSRI that isnt entirely serotonergic, and u havent been on it that long so it still works in a hormetic manner, but over time you'll almost certainly find yourself in deep deep water as millions before u have. there is a massive scientidic literature on the dangers of excess serotonin that is constantly ignored and suppressed. putting your trust in your doctor isnt a dumb thing to do at all, it makes so much sense enstictively - but if u see how deep the rabbit hole of corruption goes, you'll be filled with doubt, no doubt. been studying medicine on my own these past few years when i realized the docs didnt know how to help me, and its not their fault, its a system bought by entirely, as cliche as it sounds.

im gonna pm you

 

[Ritalincel]

tanny thread.

 

[Magical Apple]

Finally ppl are saying it. SSRIs and modern science about psychology is literally snake oil and astrology nonsense. Pure deception. Astrology might even be more legit actually. The person even diagnosing you is probably legitimately schizo or dark triad. Humans dont even know the bottom of the sea or can combat homelessness in todays time but people think they understand the human brain.

People idolize and meatride the medical industry too hard nowadays. Like, they need to understand what they are taking and start acting like the internet exists. because i can bet you its literal thousands of better remedy's out there. Too much information in todays time to be glazing the med industry that hard. Can literally find better alternatives browsing reddit and talking to drugmaxxed ppl on psychonaut forums. Id bet you couldn't even find a doctor that can break the chemical effects down like the people in these comments could. How many of them talk about serotonin?

i can imagine some soy or fem natured guy revealing his struggles too much, or getting too emotional about them without pilling himself with knowledge. Hes ignorant and does not realize that his pressure and anxiety is probably legitimately a result of the world we live in. Next thing u know hes at the doc getting culled and castrated. Like, of course their going to sterilize your behavior. This world is insane anyways. Do these goys think the system needs rebels and outliers? The world setup is legitimately crazy, gigahigh anxiety and depression is actually a totally normal reaction.

Using crude drugs to alter neurotransmitters is just likely to make you feel weird or sick not legitimately change something as complex as depression. Its no better than slamming a stiff drink at the end of the day.

 

[Deleted member 15791]

Thoughts on escitalopram?

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Using crude drugs to alter neurotransmitters is just likely to make you feel weird or sick not legitimately change something as complex as depression. Its no better than slamming a stiff drink at the end of the day.

I feel like this complexity is exactly the reason why prescribing a one end all solution like ssri is terrible. I just came off a post where a guy was trying to convince his doc to prescribe him something else but his doctor was meatriding ssris to the point where even OP noticed it was suspicious on how his doc was advertising it.

Treating depression is not even on the same level of complexity compared to anxiety imo. I feel like depression is extremely vague. Extreme constant anxiety may be a cause of concern when it comes to brain function but even then it requires a whole lot of variety of research, treatments and therapy's. You have to really personalize the issue, its not like healing a broken foot. Its something your doc just cant hold your hand to do. I treated my existential dread by following the bible. Crazy but true. Some people who ive talked to have little relief with safer drug stacks and other practices, but i never met someone better off with ssris, never. To me its legit worst than taking kratom or cbd, or doing some other drug for suppression like phenibut/shroom. The beast still remains and it kills off your base level.

 

[BoneDensity]

He claimed in an interview it was possible to live forever:
- In an ideal environment in all aspects of the word ideal (mind, body, spirit), how long do you believe our bodies were designed to live?
- I have never seen evidence that they contain any principle of mortality, and in recent years the suspicion that we contain all the equipment needed for perpetual renewal, given the right circumstances, is seeming to be increasingly plausible.

He never claimed his circumstances were ideal. Just that it was possible if one were to achieve such circumstances.

 

[BoneDensity]

TBH i have no idea what SSRIs even are, I just heard that Jews prescribe them to "depressed" women.

 

[Deleted member 24371]

ssri saved my life i wouldnt be able to address the root causes without it

 

[lasthope]

ssri saved my life i wouldnt be able to address the root causes without it

I can’t fuck without ssri

 

[Britmaxxer]

SSRIs work for some, in certain circumstances. my father was given a course of SSRIs once for a few months, and I asked him about it years later. he said it completely turned things around and made him feel better, permanently. it think it gave him the mentality to get through his difficult life circumstances.

but SSRIs are grossly overprescribed and people take them without doing anything about the garbage lifestyle they have which makes them depressed.

 

[Deleted member 24371]

SSRIs work for some, in certain circumstances. my father was given a course of SSRIs once for a few months, and I asked him about it years later. he said it completely turned things around and made him feel better, permanently. it think it gave him the mentality to get through his difficult life circumstances.

but SSRIs are grossly overprescribed and people take them without doing anything about the garbage lifestyle they have which makes them depressed.

they are best used as a crutch while u get better

 

[SubSigma]

Jfl im on paxil and im still auchwismaxxed

 

[max_frisch]

the only meds young and healthy men should take is finasteride to protect hair

 

[Orc]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35442954/

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Literally taking opiates is better. @Thomas DOM

Everyone Ik who has gotten on ssris has gained a beer gut and become even more miserable. SSRIs are literal poison and should be made illegal. Never touch ssris.

@Manchild

Ray Peat confirmed that serotonin is a stress hormone and should be minimized. So yeah SSRIs are bad for you. Other hormones that are bad for you are also Estrogen.

//Thomas DOM

 

[lilrope]

Literally taking opiates is better. @Thomas DOM

Everyone Ik who has gotten on ssris has gained a beer gut and become even more miserable. SSRIs are literal poison and should be made illegal. Never touch ssris.

@Manchild

most of you are destined to be miserable for the rest of your lives due to being short and having shit Genes. Zero will always mog negative 1;you're not gonna feel anything on ssris. You're not gonna be happy but neither miserable

 

[lilrope]

Literally taking opiates is better. @Thomas DOM

Everyone Ik who has gotten on ssris has gained a beer gut and become even more miserable. SSRIs are literal poison and should be made illegal. Never touch ssris.

@Manchild

ssris can make the most depressing activities somewhat tolerable.

 

[Deleted member 16275]

If SSRIs are what you guys say they are, give me an alternative. What do i tell my psychiatrist the next time i see him?