stop promoting european surgeons

[homo_faber]

dr. z raised his price already up to 30% just because of richcels from usa etc.

i heard italian surgeons got more pricey too. only promote 3rd world surgeons from now on. in case you get surgery with good resuts - claim you got it in thailand or something

send all greycels to india, thailand or serbia

 

[Slyfex8]

dr. zarrinbal raised his price already up to 30% just because of richcels from usa etc.

i heard italian surgeons got more pricey too. only promote 3rd world surgeons from now on. in case you get surgery with good resuts - claim you got it in thailand or something

probably tired of seeing PSL autists everyday

 

[Deleted member 4430]

what about Sailer? increased from 100K to 145K

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

just lmao if you don't go to unknown surgeons in small cities

 

[homo_faber]

what about Sailer? increased from 100K to 145K

now i think swiss surgeon are about the same since they are as expensive as usa surgeons

 

[homo_faber]

just lmao if you don't go to unknown surgeons in small cities

unironically a normal bimax shouldnt be a big deal. maybe with downgrafting etc. you should look out for a more specialised surgeon

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

unironically a normal bimax shouldnt be a big deal. maybe with downgrafting etc. you should look out for a more specialised surgeon

long as you look at results and get computer imaging before surgery you can go to no name surgeons just fine imo

my orthodontist told me the local maxfac charges 6k for bimax, although admittedly that guy is a retard (consulted with him once)

 

[Deleted member 5061]

what about Sailer? increased from 100K to 145K

100K what for exactly? I cant imagine anyone charging 100k let alone more than 100k for bimax surgery?

 

[homo_faber]

100K what for exactly? I cant imagine anyone charging 100k let alone more than 100k for bimax surgery?

100k for double jaw surgery + implants etc

 

[Deleted member 4430]

100K what for exactly? I cant imagine anyone charging 100k let alone more than 100k for bimax surgery?

bimax, jaw angle and maybe rhino

 

[Deleted member 5061]

100k for double jaw surgery + implants etc

wow that is some autistic level of overpricing. Its some next level comedy, yet sad at the same time.

Dr. Z is dr zarrinbal? How much does he charge for a pure bimax without implants? 15k euro?

 

[homo_faber]

wow that is some autistic level of overpricing. Its some next level comedy, yet sad at the same time.

Dr. Z is dr zarrinbal? How much does he charge for a pure bimax without implants? 15k euro?

20k, probably 25k soon if you retards keep coming to him

if you drive 1h east you pay 10k for double jaw surgery (poland)

 

[Deleted member 5061]

20k, probably 25k soon if you retards keep coming to him

Wow that quite a solid price too, however far away from the other surgeons who charge 100k+. At least Dr. Z is known for solid results, right?

What about health insurance though? With severe malocclusion, doesnt the insurance cover most of the cost?

 

[homo_faber]

Wow that quite a solid price too, however far away from the other surgeons who charge 100k+. At least Dr. Z is known for solid results, right?

What about health insurance though? With severe malocclusion, doesnt the insurance cover most of the cost?

what? that is close to raffaini who has way better results. or alfaro. if you dont live in germany or close to berlin and you have the money id rather go to these to

and dr. konrad walerzak (poland), Dr. Simonas Grybauskas (lithuania), Prof Ilze Akota (latvia), dr. neo (cyprus) are as at least as good as dr. z but way cheaper then him.

the problem is that AT LEAST a quarter of the incel scene (inb4 muhh this a lookmaxxing forum jflol) is german speaking speaking so they all go there


and 100k (dr. sailer) is a big exception, even in switzerland thats quite expensive

other swiss surgeons like triaca or brusco are cheaper

 

[homo_faber]

dr. z is officially overpriced

just like his iranian friend from beverly hills, dr. taban

 

[homo_faber]

surgeons we can still talk about:

Dr. Neo (Cyprus)
Dr. Nabil Fakih (Lebanon)
Dr. Vikram Shetty (India)
Dr. Sunil Richardson (India)
Dr. Jorge Espinosa (Colombia)

Dr. Konrad Walerzak (Poland)
Dr. Simonas Grybauskas (Lithuania)
Prof Ilze Akota (Latvia)
Dr Andreishchev (Russia)

wildcards:
serbia
thailand
iran


censor the rest

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

Just get lefort 3 in India for 3k bro

 

[homo_faber]

Just get lefort 3 in India for 3k bro

if the surgeons studied or were educated in the usa before? why not

the price is not an indicator how good a surgeon is:

exhibit a: dr. jay calvert, surgeon based in l.a with l.a prices. he charges up to 80k and more per jaw surgery yet he is notorious known for fuckin things up (more them normal - every surgeon has fuck ups but this guy has aaa loot) and scamming people:

here from jawsurgeryforums.com


"Orange County Prosecution

.....The Orange County District Attorney’s Office in November 2013 charged Calvert with one felony count each of medical insurance fraud, manufacturing documents, and perjury. It dropped the prosecution in April 2014 after the doctor agreed to pay restitution to patients in an amount that was not disclosed.

It was alleged that in 2009, he performed unauthorized and damaging surgery on a man—identified as “John Doe”—in addition to the rhinoplasty (“nose job”) he had requested, billing his insurance company for the unnecessary procedures in an amount exceeding $40,000, and fabricating documents to support the fraudulent claims. Prosecutors also charged that Calvert lied in a deposition when sued by Doe.

STAY AWAY AT ALL COSTS.


SCHENDEL AND JACOBSON ARE COMPLETE LIARS AND THEIR RESULTS ARE LOWER THAN SUBPAR.

I KNOW I CONSULTED WITH JACOBSON AND SCHENDEL EXTENSIVELY AND WAS ABOUT TO HAVE AN OPERATION WITH THEM UNTIL I FOUND OUT THEY HAD BEEN LYING ABOUT SEVERAL THINGS. JACOBSON IS ONE OF THE EVIL PEOPLE YOU WILL EVERY MEET I'M NOT JOKING HE OVERSAW MY ORTHODONTIC WORK FOR A WHILE AND HE MADE MY BITE WORSE. THEN WHEN I ASKED HIM AND SCHENDEL TO CLARIFY THE WORK THEY WOULD DO ON ME HE SHUT ME OFF AND STOLE OVER 5000 DOLLARS OF MY MONEY FOR HAVING DONE NOTHING. (HE NEVER EVEN PUT BRACES ON ME, THIS WAS JUST FOR A CONSULTATION!!!!!).

YOU'RE f**kED IF YOU GO TO THIS PLACE. CALVERT IS ALSO WELL KNOWN FOR BEING SUED BY PATIENTS AS IS JACOBSON AND SCHENDEL. I KNOW OF A FEW CASES WHERE SCHENDEL AND JACOBSON GAVE PATIENTS SOME HUSH MONEY SO THEY WOULD NOT PROCEED WITH COURT CASES FOR DISFIGURING THEM. THEY'RE ALL ABOUT MARKETING AND SQUEEZING YOU FOR MONEY. I AM SO GLAD I NEVER WENT TO THESE CHARLATANS.

IF YOU WANT A GOOD, SOLID RESULT DOUGLAS SINN in TEXAS is WHO I ENDED UP GOING TO AND HE WAS SOLID. GUNSON/ARNETT ARE LIKE SAINTS COMPARED TO THESE f**kERS. DAMN, EVEN A COMPETENT JAW SURGEON IN YOUR AREA WILL BE MORE HONEST AND PROVIDE A BETTER RESULT THAN THESE MONEY-HUNGRY HACKS: DORFMAN, JACOBSON, SCHENDEL CALVERT. Oh my god and Jacobson is the evil shyster behind the whole operation. He doesn't know a thing about jaw surgery and sucks patients in with this nice-guy smarmy routine. That is all until you have a problem. Then he will ghost you like a satanic villain.

You think I'm going overboard here? No, you all know I'm one of the most experienced members on this board who has gone through surgery and come out the other side. ANd I can tell you ANYTHING TO DO WITH JACOBSON will lead to you suffering greatly. I could not overexaggerate."

so yeah, id rather go to a curry doc like Dr. Vikram Shetty (who also could easily work in every first world country) then these scammers

 

[CursedOne]

what? that is close to raffaini who has way better results. or alfaro. if you dont live in germany or close to berlin and you have the money id rather go to these to

and dr. konrad walerzak (poland), Dr. Simonas Grybauskas (lithuania), Prof Ilze Akota (latvia), dr. neo (cyprus) are as at least as good as dr. z but way cheaper then him.

the problem is that AT LEAST a quarter of the incel scene (inb4 muhh this a lookmaxxing forum jflol) is german speaking speaking so they all go there


and 100k (dr. sailer) is a big exception, even in switzerland thats quite expensive

other swiss surgeons like triaca or brusco are cheaper

who did the sugery in your uploaded photo?

 

[Deleted member 5799]

i went for a bimax in serbia

paid with my kidney and a lung but didnt get a bimax

 

[Deleted member 5799]

surgeons we can still talk about:


Dr. Simonas Grybauskas (Lithuania)

theres a whole website dedicated just to put this guy to shame

 

[CursedOne]

theres a whole website dedicated just to put this guy to shame

you can find people shitting on every surgeon including dr. z, dr. a. etc.

 

[Deleted member 14262]

probably tired of seeing PSL autists everyday

Tired? They'd be homeless without them.

 

[oldcelloser]

long as you look at results and get computer imaging before surgery you can go to no name surgeons just fine imo

my orthodontist told me the local maxfac charges 6k for bimax, although admittedly that guy is a retard (consulted with him once)

what country are you in.jpg ?

 

[oldcelloser]

what about Sailer? increased from 100K to 145K

wtf is this surgery? le shot gun 7?

 

[duck]

i will steal and rob elderly women of all their money to sniff dr. alfaro’s cologne while under

 

[Deleted member 18159]

Or just don’t be a poorcel. That works too