Stop these ridiculous standards and ratings (Sharing personal experience on looks)

[HereToGetBetter]

For most of my life I was a low tier normie due to many reasons.

1: I was fat.
2: I became skinny fat after.
3: I stayed skinny fat for a while.
4: I had basically no facial definition because I was fat and my face was fat (Only positive is that I had god tier skin due to being home all day)
5: I was shorter than usual until a year and some ago I am currently 17.

Now I classify myself after working out and getting a little lean but I still don't consider myself lean by any means as a HTN/Chadlite.
I thought my body fat went mainly to my face but compared to some other people with my body fat they actually have more face fat than me. Maybe its just the age factor and facial fat distribution changing as I age.

My main point is. Even me as a HTN/Chadline on average that is what I rate myself and friends rate me NOT fake friends best friends I know for a long time.
I get female attention, I literally walk by and 9/10 times girls my age will always hold eye contact. This has to exclude factors such as Moneymaxxing and Statusmaxxing since I don't know the girls this is purely attraction. So I can't agree that most of you on this forum have such high model standards. I have seen so many ratings on here of guys that look a little better than me or the same level as me or a lot better than me even being called the following. Meh you are average dude, its over for you, your mid face is too fucked, no hunter eyes bro, brown eyes bro its over, negative canthal tilt bro its over. While those are bad traits to have/not have one or two failios doesn't mean anything. Get your shit together you can't start telling people they can get womens attention unless they are model tier jfl.

 

[Deleted member 21735]

incels like myself are complete subhumans so we gotta cope by thinking that most men have it hard

 

[SwissArms]

Most guys look like shit
>Terrible Skin
>High Estrogen Body from Beer
>Anxious/High Cortisol personality from fucked up gut microbiome
>No Facial Definition/No Bones
> No Muscles and the guys who do go to the gym do meme exercises, and those who do lift are high bf.

 

[MrOrion]

Some users here are borderline beyond saving mentally. I feel like I am a HTN on a good day and I still get decent attenttion from girls. I always appreciate reading ascension threads made by people who refuse to give in, and those people get shit on by guys who have given up and try to belittle others and their accomplishments to make themselves feel better

 

[HereToGetBetter]

Some users here are borderline beyond saving mentally. I feel like I am a HTN on a good day and I still get decent attenttion from girls. I always appreciate reading ascension threads made by people who refuse to give in, and those people get shit on by guys who have given up and try to belittle others and their accomplishments to make themselves feel better

I agree, a lot of people want to make other think its "Over" So they stop bettering themselves. also I feel like the belittleing issue is even bigger.

 

[Debetro]

BAN GRAYCELS AND BLUECELS, THEN MAKE THE FORUM PRIVATE. MAKE .ORG GREAT AGAIN

 

[Blackgymmax]

Post your face. Youre probably actually top 10%

 

[Blackgymmax]

I remember some chad on here spouted the same shit
Then he went on tinder and got 500+ likes in a day and was mike Thurston tier.
Never listen to moggers on the lack of importance looks plays

 

[HereToGetBetter]

Post your face. Youre probably actually top 10%

I remember some chad on here spouted the same shit
Then he went on tinder and got 500+ likes in a day and was mike Thurston tier.
Never listen to moggers on the lack of importance looks plays

I don't want to post my face because I REALLY don't fucking wish there is a chance of somebody in real life knowing I am on this forum. they have to think its "genetics" I have went around all pls chart posts I could find on this forum and on average I put myself at around psl 5.5 I really don't think there is a chance I am above 6. I am also 100% not below 5. I genuinely am just one level above average. I think its due to the fact that most men don't even try to look better outside the extremes of looksmaxing. like most men don't even shower enough don't sleep enough and things like that. I feel like we have an effect of I forgot the bullshit saying but basically only the top 1-10% post themselves on here (excluding literal incel trolls) so you mostly see images of those and think most guys on here look like that.
Basically
1: Unrealistic expectations: Exposure to a narrow range of highly attractive individuals might create unrealistic beauty standards.
2: Devaluation of average looks: Constant exposure to a select group of attractive people may lead to a devaluation of those who do not meet the same standards.

 

[Blackgymmax]

I don't want to post my face because I REALLY don't fucking wish there is a chance of somebody in real life knowing I am on this forum. they have to think its "genetics" I have went around all pls chart posts I could find on this forum and on average I put myself at around psl 5.5 I really don't think there is a chance I am above 6. I am also 100% not below 5. I genuinely am just one level above average. I think its due to the fact that most men don't even try to look better outside the extremes of looksmaxing. like most men don't even shower enough don't sleep enough and things like that. I feel like we have an effect of I forgot the bullshit saying but basically only the top 1-10% post themselves on here (excluding literal incel trolls) so you mostly see images of those and think most guys on here look like that.
Basically
1: Unrealistic expectations: Exposure to a narrow range of highly attractive individuals might create unrealistic beauty standards.
2: Devaluation of average looks: Constant exposure to a select group of attractive people may lead to a devaluation of those who do not meet the same standards.

I dunno i just think that you look better than you think. Im never surprised when i see a white dude who has mogger looks even on the lower end of moggers

 

[HereToGetBetter]

I dunno i just think that you look better than you think. Im never surprised when i see a white dude who has mogger looks even on the lower end of moggers

Maybe its my face "frame" or structure. since I have forward growth, I have a good jaw. The only area I lack is cheekbones, I have a bit of zygos and I am way less leaner than most guys on here that workout/leanmax. I think I have the potential to become a mogger since I am starting to see my zygos come in and a little bit of cheekbones.

 

[Nick.Harte]

Better follow models standards than not normie standards.
You know the saying : Shoot for the moons and if you miss you’ll end up on the stars.

 

[HereToGetBetter]

Better follow models standards than not normie standards.
You know the saying : Shoot for the moons and if you miss you’ll end up on the stars.

I absolutely think that's right and you should aim to look the best you can but also have realistic knowledge of what the average population deems as attractive (because that's what matters) and also know what truly is average below and above in terms of attraction.

 

[Nick.Harte]

I absolutely think that's right and you should aim to look the best you can but also have realistic knowledge of what the average population deems as attractive (because that's what matters) and also know what truly is average below and above in terms of attraction.

Yeah, that’s why I have 2 scales in mind, one normal and the other one PSL.(.org standard)

 

[aesthetic beauty]

I don't want to post my face because I REALLY don't fucking wish there is a chance of somebody in real life knowing I am on this forum. they have to think its "genetics" I have went around all pls chart posts I could find on this forum and on average I put myself at around psl 5.5 I really don't think there is a chance I am above 6. I am also 100% not below 5. I genuinely am just one level above average. I think its due to the fact that most men don't even try to look better outside the extremes of looksmaxing. like most men don't even shower enough don't sleep enough and things like that. I feel like we have an effect of I forgot the bullshit saying but basically only the top 1-10% post themselves on here (excluding literal incel trolls) so you mostly see images of those and think most guys on here look like that.
Basically
1: Unrealistic expectations: Exposure to a narrow range of highly attractive individuals might create unrealistic beauty standards.
2: Devaluation of average looks: Constant exposure to a select group of attractive people may lead to a devaluation of those who do not meet the same standards.

Don’t post your face but I guarantee you are gl. There isn’t such thing as unrealistic expectations. Gl dudes exist irl but they are rare and most women won’t be able to lock them down. Being average in looks was never valuable it’s just that men had other things that brought value.

 

[Debetro]

Cope.

 

[thecel]

incels like myself are complete subhumans so we gotta cope by thinking that most men have it hard

Exactly. Incels say they’re all about facing the harsh reality, but they can’t accept the reality that they’re more alone than they think they are. They keep coping that 80% of men has it hard just like them.

 

[Deleted member 21735]

Exactly. Incels say they’re all about facing the harsh reality, but they can’t accept the reality that they’re more alone than they think they are. They keep coping that 80% of men has it hard just like them.

we are ugly and deformed losers....

 

[HereToGetBetter]

Cope.

Mog you probably

 

[Debetro]

Mog you probably

Very convincing, telling someone who you know from nothing that you mog him

 

[HereToGetBetter]

Very convincing, telling someone who you know from nothing that you mog him

You have an incel personality.

 

[Debetro]

You have an incel personality.

i hope someday jew mods finally decide to ban bluepilled cucks. this is turning into reddit

 

[HereToGetBetter]

i hope someday jew mods finally decide to ban bluepilled cucks. this is turning into reddit

Ain’t no way you called me blue pill jfl

 

[Debetro]

Ain’t no way you called me blue pill jfl

yes i did

 

[Deleted member 27213]

i got hundreds of likes on tinder in a month and a user here said im MTN lmfao. and i sent a pic of the last girl i fucked (easily stacylite face, 17y old, neotonous features, zero visible failos, amazing skin, eye color, hair) and he said she was "low tier MTB" JFLLL... mind you this girl has legit male models simping for her in her dms, i only got her cause of my personality + huge dick. and he said shes less them MTB. ppl here are beyond saving man

 

[Icon]

incels like myself are complete subhumans so we gotta cope by thinking that most men have it hard

That explains a lot, no wonder you guys shit on my height lmao

 

[Icon]

For most of my life I was a low tier normie due to many reasons.

1: I was fat.
2: I became skinny fat after.
3: I stayed skinny fat for a while.
4: I had basically no facial definition because I was fat and my face was fat (Only positive is that I had god tier skin due to being home all day)
5: I was shorter than usual until a year and some ago I am currently 17.

Now I classify myself after working out and getting a little lean but I still don't consider myself lean by any means as a HTN/Chadlite.
I thought my body fat went mainly to my face but compared to some other people with my body fat they actually have more face fat than me. Maybe its just the age factor and facial fat distribution changing as I age.

My main point is. Even me as a HTN/Chadline on average that is what I rate myself and friends rate me NOT fake friends best friends I know for a long time.
I get female attention, I literally walk by and 9/10 times girls my age will always hold eye contact. This has to exclude factors such as Moneymaxxing and Statusmaxxing since I don't know the girls this is purely attraction. So I can't agree that most of you on this forum have such high model standards. I have seen so many ratings on here of guys that look a little better than me or the same level as me or a lot better than me even being called the following. Meh you are average dude, its over for you, your mid face is too fucked, no hunter eyes bro, brown eyes bro its over, negative canthal tilt bro its over. While those are bad traits to have/not have one or two failios doesn't mean anything. Get your shit together you can't start telling people they can get womens attention unless they are model tier jfl.

Look someone with some common sense.

 

[Icon]

i got hundreds of likes on tinder in a month and a user here said im MTN lmfao. and i sent a pic of the last girl i fucked (easily stacylite face, 17y old, neotonous features, zero visible failos, amazing skin, eye color, hair) and he said she was "low tier MTB" JFLLL... mind you this girl has legit male models simping for her in her dms, i only got her cause of my personality + huge dick. and he said shes less them MTB. ppl here are beyond saving man

I have a hunch ppl rate lower than what you actually are due to jealousy or autistic skewed perception on beauty and harmony or plainly just to hurt you emotionally.

If you get special treatment when you are in public from women you are at least Chadlite.