Subhanallah

[Deleted member 3043]

also @streege can u post the vocaroo where ur having a stroke?

i deleted tbh, and it was not a stroke u ceuk just that my parents were sleeping, can't talk loudly

 

[Baldingman1998]

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take this and leave.

What does this prove?

 

[Introvertednarc]

@Toodlydood gtfih you are loved by your brothers

Yeah it's easy for you all to love each other bc you can all bond over the fact that you're ugly coping subhumans who'll forever be hated by the female gender .

 

[Baldingman1998]

So you don't believe in divine intervention?

If you read my posts then I clearly do. I just consider religion man made to control the masses and God and religion are not one.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

We discussed it briefly I can one day allocate all my issues perhaps but it will take a long time since I haven't read anything in years

So didn't I. And lost most of my knowledge, but i debated lots of guys, and others, in different platforms, and what they eventually use is not "errors" because there were always explanations.
But just that they needed more arguments in favor of it.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

If you read my posts then I clearly do. I just consider religion man made to control the masses and God and religion are not one.

As long as the position is the most rational we have to admit that it's the position that is the most likely to be from God, right?

 

[Baldingman1998]

As long as the position is the most rational we have to admit that it's the position that is the most likely to be from God, right?

Yes

 

[Deleted member 4696]

@Toodlydood gtfih you are loved by your brothers

facts tbh ngl.based user and a bro,others can only keep barking for him

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Yes

Good. We agree on that. we can discuss further later on what is more comprehensively the most rational position, step by step, something i like to do.

 

[curryslayerordeath]

Ok i can PROVE to you why Theism>Atheism, then Monotheism>polytheism then islam>others monotheism, you want me to go point by point?
I'll if you want and you'll have nothing to say most likely. But all you say to me is genealogical fallacy, and don't give any point.
Are you ready for it tommorrow or after?

tag me in it tbh, ill respond in there. ill find some contradictions w islam.

No. If you can't accept the basis of what i've wrote, and not refuting it, while it's common knowledge, we can't debate bro.
You can't just come, say "no you'r wrong JFL" to a guy that says evidences in the field.

no im saying that what i say is factually correct, its the same as defined in any theory of science reference lol.

the lack of religion does not mean that a creator doesnt exist, it says nothing abt that (which is why your probabilistic argument is irrelevant).

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take this and leave.

and what does this have to do with anything

 

[Deleted member 10913]

If you read my posts then I clearly do. I just consider religion man made to control the masses and God and religion are not one.

ofcourse it is ''man made'' in the sense that the experience of prophets is passed down through scripture. must the word of God be some kind of downloadable software or something?!

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

facts tbh ngl.based user and a bro,others can only keep barking for him

notice how its only coping sfcels and pajeet rats who are barking for him? jfl

 

[Deleted member 3043]

tag me in it tbh, ill respond in there. ill find some contradictions w islam.

ok

no im saying that what i say is factually correct, its the same as defined in any theory of science reference lol.

It's just that factually and theoretically science is a belief it has to be accepted, period.
Saying everything else is beeing ignorant of what that is. It doesn't mean it's false, it means it will never be totally true.

the lack of religion does not mean that a creator doesnt exist, it says nothing abt that (which is why your probabilistic argument is irrelevant).

So you'r arguing about deism here. The issue of deism is our very existence and our reason, if we have it means there is a reason since nothing is created in vain - logical claim that is not disproven.

and what does this have to do with anything

Idk maybe with the fact that the religion that actually offed the least people was islam, among all great "systems" - adding nazism, and leftism ie communism. Which is factual and by far. Maybe with some others relatively non political faiths.

 

[Baldingman1998]

ofcourse it is ''man made'' in the sense that the experience of prophets is passed down through scripture. must the word of God be some kind of downloadable software or something?!

No I believe that all religion is false so all the things which it claims like heaven hell reward vs punishment are just tools to control people. It's not about the message only but the whole idea of religion. It's us vs them. Encourages tribalism. So I don't believe in the miracles and all that stuff. Man made as in not from God not that it's written by men only.

 

[lutte]

can't believe I read every post in this shit thread

 

[Deleted member 10913]

tag me in it tbh, ill respond in there. ill find some contradictions w islam.

no im saying that what i say is factually correct, its the same as defined in any theory of science reference lol.

the lack of religion does not mean that a creator doesnt exist, it says nothing abt that (which is why your probabilistic argument is irrelevant).

and what does this have to do with anything

If we talk about the case of Islam show us where these ''genocides'' happened.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

can't believe I read every post in this shit thread

can't believe i always have to urge to defend what i believe is rationally and assentiment wise the truth and that i'm fulfilled by doing so WHILE I FUCKING NEED TO GET MORE KNOWLEDGE to be able to have a scholar degree in these regard.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

notice how its only coping sfcels and pajeet rats who are barking for him? jfl

idc about pajeets for we had many wars with them but man these sfcels...

what a bunch of fools

 

[lutte]

can't believe i always have to urge to defend what i believe is rationally and assentiment wise the truth and that i'm fulfilled by doing so WHILE I FUCKING NEED TO GET MORE KNOWLEDGE to be able to have a scholar degree in these regard.

go to bed muhammed

 

[Deleted member 3043]

go to bed muhammed

Good arabic song tbh :


enable subtitles.

 

[Baldingman1998]

beside insults, you can try to learn about your ignorance. it's baffle me how a guy like you can claim anything from the level of competency of your writings.
Are you a guy that likes to mock himself ?
Did you ever studied anything ?

I wasn't insulting I was just stating what I see as truth nothing against you personality just in general

 

[lutte]

If we talk about the case of Islam show us where these ''genocides'' happened.

@streege what about kurdish genocide on armenians

 

[curryslayerordeath]

So you'r arguing about deism here. The issue of deism is our very existence and our reason, if we have it means there is a reason since nothing is created in vain - logical claim that is not disproven.

yes thats the only one that seems to fit my mind

Idk maybe with the fact that the religion that actually offed the least people was islam, among all great "systems" - adding nazism, and leftism ie communism. Which is factual and by far. Maybe with some others relatively non political faiths.

i dont disagree with this tbh, i know its necessary for a functioning society. i just argue this out of boredom/personal interest, most ppl wont question any of their birth ideas.

If we talk about the case of Islam show us where these ''genocides'' happened.

it was a half-shitpost

but the whole history of the middle east and south/central asian subcontinent is bloody asf bc of those reasons jfl (not that islam is the only one to blame).

 

[lutte]

Good arabic song tbh :


enable subtitles.

My dad will beat me up if I play this music, he already gets mad because I eat dates

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

idc about pajeets for we had many wars with them but man these sfcels...
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what a bunch of fools

let em cope for us bhai, we mog and they know

 

[Deleted member 3043]

I wasn't insulting I was just stating what I see as truth nothing against you personality just in general

yes that's what another post, older. i just have low patience when i say something that is very clear to me, and explained it, and that we oppose me without clear arguments just opinions. Not against you, but it's in my personnality to be a bit too much like that.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

yes thats the only one that seems to fit my mind

we could debate on it later, but that's a tougher subject, after the others.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

No I believe that all religion is false so all the things which it claims like heaven hell reward vs punishment are just tools to control people. It's not about the message only but the whole idea of religion. It's us vs them. Encourages tribalism. So I don't believe in the miracles and all that stuff. Man made as in not from God not that it's written by men only.

1. Humans are made of tribe's even your local western government runs according to this;
they present themselves as shepherd, the soldiers as watchdogs and the enemies als wolves. In every society it is the same. Why do you think this is the case? because only by this can you have borders, structure, law and so on.

2. The Methaphysical miracles happend mostly at the times of the prophet, like the splitting of the sea. Obviously if you go right now the red sea wil not split in half, these are things that happened at one time only.

The way we accept this is as follows;
if someone makes 100 claims and they are all right, you are gonna assume that is 101 is also right. If he presents the claim that his word Comes from God, you most likely will ask for a 100 of these ''claims''. If it is provided you accept it. If not you will not.

Getting back to the miracles, Islam does not claim that you will see the splitting of the red sea. The truth is however that it happened at one time only, Islam does not claim that you will see a Djinn, but they exists. Islam does not claim that you see the destruction of soddom and gammora but it happened. The thing is if the claim was that these miracle's are for us all to percieve then your arguments might hold weight, but this is not the claim.

Only believing in what you can percieve is not something that is functional for humans. When something is not functional like the views of you and many other atheists it is the most furthest away from the truth. Humans function more on dogma then anything else. With this holding dogmatic views becomes closer to the truth, finally it is a matter which dogmatic believe is the truth and which is not. To find this you read the scriptures that are from God. everything that is written there that you regard as dogma is the truth.

My english goes so far as this.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

yes thats the only one that seems to fit my mind

i dont disagree with this tbh, i know its necessary for a functioning society. i just argue this out of boredom/personal interest, most ppl wont question any of their birth ideas.

it was a half-shitpost

but the whole history of the middle east and south/central asian subcontinent is bloody asf bc of those reasons jfl (not that islam is the only one to blame).

Bloody in comparisson to what exactly, i posted the most deadly wars in history for you. More or less whole humanities history is bloody. What is it that ours is so exceptional?

 

[Deleted member 6191]

Allahualam @Baldingman1998 @streege

 

[Deleted member 10913]

@streege what about kurdish genocide on armenians

If you are reffering to the the armenian ''genocide''... that is something not proven. Many historians still debate this subject. The thing is there where massacres on both sides. Once Russia occupied Ottoman lands the armenians formed guerilla forces to bleed the local muslim populations to death. They did this because they felt a historic claim for these lands. Most Muslims of eastern anatolia where kurds so when the russians fell back from ottoman lands and the caucasus the Muslim Kurds orginised revenge attacks against them.

It is not that we could stop them from doing that or can it be argued that their attacks are unjustified. Ottoman officials however where HANGED because they could not PROTECT local armenians who where killed in these raids.

With all this the genocides are nothing more then fantasy. YES THERE WHERE MASSACRES AND IT HAPPENED ON BOTH SIDES.

 

[lutte]

If you are reffering to the the armenian ''genocide''... that is something not proven. Many historians still debate this subject

haha holy shit

 

[Deleted member 10913]

haha holy shit

Man instead of laughing it out, the burden of proofs lies with you that a genocide happend. You need to show atleast some DOCUMENTS OF ACTUAL STATE POLICY so that we atleast can consider a validity in the argument.

 

[Deleted member 10913]

haha holy shit

If you are Armenian yourself, there is nothing to gain for you in attacking Turkey.

 

[lutte]

If you are Armenian yourself, there is nothing to gain for you in attacking Turkey.

I am assyrian

 

[lutte]

Man instead of laughing it out, the burden of proofs lies with you that a genocide happend. You need to show atleast some DOCUMENTS OF ACTUAL STATE POLICY so that we atleast can consider a validity in the argument.

idc really, don't take it like that, it's just that turks saying that is a meme

 

[Deleted member 10913]

idc really, don't take it like that, it's just that turks saying that is a meme

you mean like our defense?

 

[Deleted member 3043]

@lutte leave poor kurds alone

 

[lutte]

you mean like our defense?

yes it's kinda stereotypical but idc really

 

[Deleted member 10913]

@lutte leave poor kurds alone

he is assyrian himself, like neighbors..

 

[Deleted member 10913]

yes it's kinda stereotypical but idc really

I understand.

 

[lutte]

@lutte leave poor kurds alone

i don't mind kurds haven't said anything bad about them

 

[Deleted member 3043]

i don't mind kurds haven't said anything bad about them

i've read that armenian did the same to kurds so i would say both are responsible.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

he is assyrian himself, like neighbors..

he's swedish jfl

 

[lutte]

he's swedish jfl

didn't tell you this but my dad is an assyrian bull who bred a nerdic woman

 

[Deleted member 3043]

didn't tell you this but my dad is an assyrian bull who bred a nerdic woman

ded SRS????
that's why u have dark eyes?

 

[Deleted member 10913]

he's swedish jfl

@lutte you from sweden?

the only swede i know is this baldcel king.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

@lutte you from sweden?
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the only swede i know is this baldcel king.

looks more ethnic than me

 

[lutte]

looks more ethnic than me

bald = honorary dravidian

 

[lutte]

@lutte you from sweden?
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the only swede i know is this baldcel king.

ngl I'm not that big a fan of him