[Suifuel] Steroids don't help connective tissue

[KingOfRome]

It's true. My strength and muscle gains have been so rapid that my connective tissue cannot keep up. Constant nagging pain in my joints and tendons (especially the left elbow) keeps me from performing at my best. It doesn't help that my thin ectomorph frame just wasn't built to withstand the heavy loads to which I constantly subject it. My skeleton was not made to press 300+ lbs for reps. It was made to assemble lean-tos and pick berries.

(My form is fine. I never had joint or tendon issues as a natty.)

 

[fukmylyf]

 

[Deleted member 4209]

what stack u on?

 

[KingOfRome]

what stack u on?

500 mgs test, 500 mgs deca, 400 mgs tren, 350 mgs adrol, weekly.

 

[Bewusst]

Reduce the weight, increase the reps and volume. Decrease rest periods and make the exercises harder. Increase weights not as soon. No need to use your 1 rep max to build muscle.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

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500 mgs test, 500 mgs deca, 400 mgs tren, 350 mgs adrol, weekly.

dam thats a lot of stuff

and honestly the deca and drol should be helping u with joints due to water retention. maybe u just have incel tier frame/bone density.

 

[BigBiceps]

Noticed any hair loss?

 

[Deleted member 3328]

what's your bench and squat?

 

[Deleted member 5467]

It's better to make a light weight feel heavy than go heavy. Serge Nubret was 70s bodybuilder he stated he usually never went heavy, only high volume.

 

[KingOfRome]

maybe u just have incel tier frame/bone density.

6.5 inch wrists

Noticed any hair loss?

I shave my head already, so no. It was beyond saving years ago.

what's your bench and squat?

My estimated 1rm on the weighted dip is about 393 lbs, which can be extrapolated to a 327.5 lb flat bench 1rm if you assume the max on the weighted dip is 1.2 times the max on the flat bench.

I do dumbbell Bulgarian split squats with 60 lb dumbbells for sets of 10.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

6.5 inch wrists

im sorry br0

i am also framecel

at least u can strengthmaxx/ogre maxx. 3 plate bench already mogs me.

 

[Deleted member 3328]

6.5 inch wrists


I shave my head already, so no. It was beyond saving years ago.


My estimated 1rm on the weighted dip is about 393 lbs, which can be extrapolated to a 327.5 lb flat bench 1rm if you assume the max on the weighted dip is 1.2 times the max on the flat bench.

I do dumbbell Bulgarian split squats with 60 lb dumbbells for sets of 10.

mogs me on bench (275 lbs)

I'm 18 and 175 lbs tho

 

[Deleted member 110]

do Steroids cause hair loss?

 

[Deleted member 3328]

do Steroids cause hair loss?

yes

JoinedAug 13, 2018

mirin

 

[KingOfRome]

Reduce the weight, increase the reps and volume. Decrease rest periods and make the exercises harder. Increase weights not as soon. No need to use your 1 rep max to build muscle.

The absolute lowest rep set I use is 5 reps at the start of a double progression scheme.

It's better to make a light weight feel heavy than go heavy. Serge Nubret was 70s bodybuilder he stated he usually never went heavy, only high volume.

That's definitely true for dedicated bodybuilding, but I'm interested in both strength and size with a slight preference for strength.

im sorry br0

i am also framecel

at least u can strengthmaxx/ogre maxx. 3 plate bench already mogs me.

We're all gonna make it brah

mogs me on bench (275 lbs)

I'm 18 and 175 lbs tho

Those are good stats especially for 18. Is this natty?

do Steroids cause hair loss?

They can, especially if you're already genetically predisposed to it.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

We're all gonna make it brah

i dropped to 145 from no gym in ages
i am leaner on the plus side tho

 

[Greeicy]

Nigga please, you are literally on 1 gram of gear how do you expect to function normally at all.

 

[Deleted member 3328]

Those are good stats especially for 18. Is this natty?

I've done one LGD-4033 cycle.

Before I started the cycle I was 163 lbs with 240 lbs bench natty.

My squat 1rm right now is 375 lbs

 

[Deleted member 2632]

Damm bro thats alot of gear

I stick to mostly Test E and Anavar, just to give me size in clothes, maybe I will hop on Masteron

Also if you are outgrowing your joints, ( which you will eventually cause steroids dont make your joints stronger ) just stick to lower weight and up the reps

I member seeing this huge jacked guy at a gym he was like 6'2 240 and ripped as fuk but he never lifted heavy, i was lifting more than him natty

You dont need to lift super heavy anyway, the gear will kick just as hard with 50lbs less on the barbell

 

[Incoming]

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500 mgs test, 500 mgs deca, 400 mgs tren, 350 mgs adrol, weekly.

Why are you putting your body through that? Holy shit bro can you pm me your before and after

 

[TitusA]

Why are u taking that much shit anyway lol. That's ridiculous. Also two nandrolones at the same time. U can easily get to lifting the weight u do on just 500mg test after a couple blast and cruise. If u carry on taking that amount of stuff you're gonna regret it in the long term trust me. Also like poster above me said u don't even need to go heavy to gain muscle (natty ur unatty but its amplified on peds). Should go lighter and higher reps for a couple weeks and scale down wht ur taking.

 

[Greeicy]

I'm surprised I'm functioning as normally as I am tbh.


I was 150 before I started injecting. Now I'm like 210. A lot of that is water though. My socks make amazing imprints on my calves jfl.

Though I wasn't 150 at my natty peak. I was 160 with a similar bodyfat. I lost 10 lbs recovering from a surgery.


I'm about 210 lbs now with a fair chunk of that being junk weight (edema, food volume, lard, etc.) I only have two weeks left in this cycle.

My estimated 1rm's went through the roof too. On the weighted dip it was 267 lbs at the day of my first injection, compared to 393 lbs today. My other lifts have improved to a similar degree. Again, I was not at my best starting out and was coming back from a pretty severe layoff.


I'll definitely consider going lower weight and higher volume, at least until my joints feel better.

I think you might die of a direct steroid overdose. High T way to go out though.

 

[Aesthetic]

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500 mgs test, 500 mgs deca, 400 mgs tren, 350 mgs adrol, weekly.

Holy shit son, goodluck dying at a young age through heart problems and suffering from joint and bone problems bcs your ectomorph body cant keep up.

Idk why you are on so much fucking gear. Just with the test of 50-400mg injecting every 2-4 weeks is enough to get a good asf body. You must be aiming to be a bodybuilder or someshit.

 

[Cali Yuga]

just lift lighter and less volume retard the hormnes wont get you anywhere if your fucking joints fall apart jfc

 

[KingOfRome]

Why are you putting your body through that? Holy shit bro can you pm me your before and after

Funny story actually.

The original plan was 500 mgs of test and 500 mgs of deca, because research had told me that test + deca was a solid beginner cycle, and my source happened to sell 250 mg amps of test and deca. More research told me I should just run test first to see how I respond to it and to gauge my response to it; learn to deal with sides. Torn between using test only and using test + deca, I ordered test and deca but planned to only use test. Delivery was far later than promised, so I'd assumed the package was never coming and ordered test from another source. I ended up getting my orders from both sources on the exact same day. (Both deliveries also included ancillaries like Arimidex and Nolvadex).

I injected test only for 3.5 weeks and responded to it very well with no sides, so I went ahead and added the deca while extending the cycle to 16 weeks instead of 12. The deca was similarly side-free.

Weeks later, I learned that my cousin was having a wedding, which was bound to include cake and other high-calorie bulking foods. My response to this was to add 25 mgs of Anadrol twice a day for the last 50 days, since it came in bottles with fifty 50 mg tablets. The wedding was later cancelled due to the coronavirus.

Meanwhile, I had ordered trenbolone enanthate, which I had originally planned to save for my next cycle (200 mgs of tren and 200 mgs of test weekly). As it turns out, I'm moving to another town next month, a couple weeks or so after my cycle. Because the gyms started shutting down due to the coronavirus, and I wouldn't have access to my home gym equipment for some time, I figured it would be a long time before I could start my cut. I was also worried that I'd received fake trenbolone. I included the trenbolone halfway through week 10 with a frontload. The plan was to use 200 mgs per week, but I spaced out and mistook the concentration of trenbolone enanthate for trenbolone acetate just long enough to inject 500 mgs instead of the planned 250 mgs. I did not realize this mistake until it was too late. To maintain stable blood levels, I increased the weekly dose to 400 mgs per week. The trenbolone gave me severe night sweats and shortness of breath that largely subsided over the next few days and especially the next few weeks.

I think you might die of a direct steroid overdose. High T way to go out though.

I've always suspected I'd die of a drug overdose. Definitely a high-T way to go, I agree.

Holy shit son, goodluck dying at a young age through heart problems and suffering from joint and bone problems bcs your ectomorph body cant keep up.

Idk why you are on so much fucking gear. Just with the test of 50-400mg injecting every 2-4 weeks is enough to get a good asf body. You must be aiming to be a bodybuilder or someshit.

I want to see how much muscle I can put on my frame without dying. I consider it akin to collecting stamps or coins.

 

[Incoming]

500mg for a starting cycle? The idea is to use the least amount of gear for the best physique possible. 500mg is insane for a first cycle. If I were to ever hop on test I’d do trt doses to start off and work my way up from there. Your body is going to age terribly with all these exogenous hormones, massive looksmin in the long run

 

[TitusA]

Funny story actually.

The original plan was 500 mgs of test and 500 mgs of deca, because research had told me that test + deca was a solid beginner cycle, and my source happened to sell 250 mg amps of test and deca. More research told me I should just run test first to see how I respond to it and to gauge my response to it; learn to deal with sides. Torn between using test only and using test + deca, I ordered test and deca but planned to only use test. Delivery was far later than promised, so I'd assumed the package was never coming and ordered test from another source. I ended up getting my orders from both sources on the exact same day. (Both deliveries also included ancillaries like Arimidex and Nolvadex).

I injected test only for 3.5 weeks and responded to it very well with no sides, so I went ahead and added the deca while extending the cycle to 16 weeks instead of 12. The deca was similarly side-free.

Weeks later, I learned that my cousin was having a wedding, which was bound to include cake and other high-calorie bulking foods. My response to this was to add 25 mgs of Anadrol twice a day for the last 50 days, since it came in bottles with fifty 50 mg tablets. The wedding was later cancelled due to the coronavirus.

Meanwhile, I had ordered trenbolone enanthate, which I had originally planned to save for my next cycle (200 mgs of tren and 200 mgs of test weekly). As it turns out, I'm moving to another town next month, a couple weeks or so after my cycle. Because the gyms started shutting down due to the coronavirus, and I wouldn't have access to my home gym equipment for some time, I figured it would be a long time before I could start my cut. I was also worried that I'd received fake trenbolone. I included the trenbolone halfway through week 10 with a frontload. The plan was to use 200 mgs per week, but I spaced out and mistook the concentration of trenbolone enanthate for trenbolone acetate just long enough to inject 500 mgs instead of the planned 250 mgs. I did not realize this mistake until it was too late. To maintain stable blood levels, I increased the weekly dose to 400 mgs per week. The trenbolone gave me severe night sweats and shortness of breath that largely subsided over the next few days and especially the next few weeks.


I've always suspected I'd die of a drug overdose. Definitely a high-T way to go, I agree.


I want to see how much muscle I can put on my frame without dying. I consider it akin to collecting stamps or coins.

WTF this is ur first cycle as well lol. Also you can't 'cycle' now you're gonna have to go down to low dose test for a couple months(you're body produces its own test still although in small amounts when injecting little amounts of test) and then do pct. Taking two nandrolones along with anadrol you're likely extremely badly shut down. Whole things ridiculous especially for a guy who only weighs 210. Wasting you're money, trashing you're health for 0 benefit over just taking 500mg test. Also idk which idiot told u deca is good for a first time user.

 

[KingOfRome]

500mg for a starting cycle? The idea is to use the least amount of gear for the best physique possible. 500mg is insane for a first cycle. If I were to ever hop on test I’d do trt doses to start off and work my way up from there. Your body is going to age terribly with all these exogenous hormones, massive looksmin in the long run

300-500 mgs is generally recommended for beginners, and the first source I'd ordered from had 250 mg ampules of test, meaning I had no choice but to run 500 mgs with a twice-weekly injection frequency. I probably would have started with 400 mgs if I'd ordered vials (which I ended up doing with the second source anyway, but I already had the ampules, so I'd already burned my ships at that point).

 

[Chintuck22]

You should do like hour long warmups before lifting so your joints wouldn't hurt. I feel the same when i wrist curl but my wrists are only 6". Speaking to myself again

 

[KingOfRome]

WTF this is ur first cycle as well lol. Also you can't 'cycle' now you're gonna have to go down to low dose test for a couple months(you're body produces its own test still although in small amounts when injecting little amounts of test) and then do pct. Taking two nandrolones along with anadrol you're likely extremely badly shut down. Whole things ridiculous especially for a guy who only weighs 210. Wasting you're money, trashing you're health for 0 benefit over just taking 500mg test. Also idk which idiot told u deca is good for a first time user.

I meant this cycle specifically rather than steroids in general. When I got my test levels checked before starting to establish a baseline for PCT, it came back at 416 ng/dL. At that point, having also experienced most if not all the symptoms of low testosterone, I'd figured PCT would tank any muscle gain I'd made on cycle and generally be an unpleasant waste of time, and I'd be better off with the blast and cruise approach. That's one reason why I've been so cavalier with adding steroids to this cycle, or blast if you prefer.

I agree that this is probably (definitely) excessive, however, I wanted to see if my tren was real before committing to use it for my cut.

 

[Moggy]

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500 mgs test, 500 mgs deca, 400 mgs tren, 350 mgs adrol, weekly.

Extremely overkill cycle.

 

[KingOfRome]

Extremely overkill cycle.

I agree, though I've only been on the tren and adrol for about a month.

 

[Moggy]

I agree, though I've only been on the tren and adrol for about a month.

You would grow nicely on 250mg test. Do you have a home gym?

 

[KingOfRome]

You would grow nicely on 250mg test. Do you have a home gym?

Yes I do.

I'm on the tail end of week 14 of this cycle, which I've determined to be 16 weeks, after which I'll be on a cruising dose of 200 mgs per week of test for at least 6 weeks until my cutting cycle.

 

[Moggy]

Yes I do.

I'm on the tail end of week 14 of this cycle, which I've determined to be 16 weeks, after which I'll be on a cruising dose of 200 mgs per week of test for at least 6 weeks until my cutting cycle.

You will have a slayer body when you finally cut, good job man.

 

[KingOfRome]

You will have a slayer body when you finally cut, good job man.

Definitely. There's no kill like overkill.

 

[Gazzamogga]

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500 mgs test, 500 mgs deca, 400 mgs tren, 350 mgs adrol, weekly.

you're telling me you're on all that shit and you're still such a simp?

 

[KingOfRome]

you're telling me you're on all that shit and you're still such a simp?

Who did I simp for?

 

[Deleted member 5143]

You take t and you act like a low t weeb that post 2d trash ?

 

[KingOfRome]

You take t and you act like a low t weeb that post 2d trash ?

Pretty much yeah.

 

[TitusA]

@KingOfRome Whts ur height? bcause based on ur weight id prob cut the stuff out and just stay on test 400mg or so untill ur 230 atleast then cut. If not when that water from the adrol and deca falls off ur gna be unhappy with the results. You're current weight is pretty light. Also make the most of the shoulder gains from tren and adrol those two rly blew up my shoulders like crazy. TBH even if u stop using them now and just ur using tren during ur cut u can still make gains aslong as ur calorie deficit isn't enormous.

 

[KingOfRome]

@KingOfRome Whts ur height? bcause based on ur weight id prob cut the stuff out and just stay on test 400mg or so untill ur 230 atleast then cut. If not when that water from the adrol and deca falls off ur gna be unhappy with the results. You're current weight is pretty light. Also make the most of the shoulder gains from tren and adrol those two rly blew up my shoulders like crazy. TBH even if u stop using them now and just ur using tren during ur cut u can still make gains aslong as ur calorie deficit isn't enormous.

I'm 5'9.

 

[TitusA]

@KingOfRome mm if ur bone structures small and 5'9 210 quite heavy prob i'd try and get to 215-220 though just incase but it depends on how much water ur holding.

 

[KingOfRome]

@KingOfRome mm if ur bone structures small and 5'9 210 quite heavy prob i'd try and get to 215-220 though just incase but it depends on how much water ur holding.

I can always do another bulk. Nobody gets massive in one cycle -- at least, nobody who wasn't quite big to begin with.

 

[TitusA]

@KingOfRome Yh I guess just better to avoid it though. I had the same attitude at first with ah well can just take whtever, but eventually you will start to think about ur health, unless ur capable of staying in denial until u have a heart attack in ur mid 30s-40s or ur kidneys fail like some users.