Supplements for Frame, Height, and Face (18yo)

[BOLO_Mk.XXXIII]

I'm planning on taking cjc dac and oral mk677 pills for HGH and IGF1. For my thyroid, I will take iodine and selenium. Lastly, I'll ice my balls, sleep well, gymmaxx, and get on a clean bulking diet for testosterone (e.g. many eggs, etc.). My goal is to maxx my frame and height, whilst also potentially improve my facial structure. 5'11.5 or ~1.81cm at 18 years old, target is at least 6 feet or 183cm. Shoulder area is kind of small, as well. Chadlite lower third, passable midface (slightly long fwhr, slightly large philtrum, ideal lips, refined nose if a bit upturned), but subhuman eye area (neutral canthal tilt almond-like eyes but with negative eyebrow tilt and large eye orbits, some upper eyelid exposure, and somewhat curved lower lids). Face is about a 6, or HTN.

Other things I plan on doing are taking Vitamin K2 Mk4 and Mk7 plus vitamin D3, ankle weights + height stretches, calcium, zinc, sunflower, lecithin, ginko, biloba, dia earth, 1-2 gallons of water every day, and fasting every now and then.

No more being feminine and a thin-wristcel. My hands and feet are massive (46 shoe size, massive hands), 16-17cm D but somewhat thin. I have JBW on my side. Never been with a woman in my life, though I'm still quite young.

In terms of hardmaxxing, and especially if the softmaxxing doesn't have the intended results, I'm thinking of the dreaded LL surgery. Zoomies are on average 6'2, and 6'3/6'4 men (185-190cm) just absolutely can mog even with a normie or sub5 face. Other surgeries would be installation of orbital implants for my large eye orbits, and clavicle lengthening osteotomy for broad shoulders if the gymmaxxing doesn't add enough length. Clavicles are straight, though, so let's hope it's not needed.

jfl

 

[Prince88]

I'm thinking of the dreaded LL surgery.

considering LL at 5'11. Certified retard

 

[BOLO_Mk.XXXIII]

considering LL at 5'11. Certified retard

tell me how to get to 6'+ then, genius

 

[jaw_is_law]

tell me how to get to 6'+ then, genius

im 6'2 and I wanna be 6'6 with LL

 

[Prince88]

tell me how to get to 6'+ then, genius

Why do you wan't to get to 6ft? It's just an arbitrary number.
If you can't get laid at 5'11. You won't get laid at 6ft+.
Focus on improving your face

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Average height for zoomer's now is not 6"2 lol it's 5"11 max.

 

[Growth Plate]

Why do you wan't to get to 6ft? It's just an arbitrary number.
If you can't get laid at 5'11. You won't get laid at 6ft+.
Focus on improving your face

LL is literally only worth it if you're below avg height in your area unless you don't care about the brutality of never running the same, the cost and the recovery process. Height is always an SMV boost up to like 7ft but PSL points are so much more valuable than height inches if you're already average. (Edit, Inb4 some retard responds that average is manlet: Yes, I know, being at least 6'3" is ideal for very high SMV but LL is such a brutal surgery, but tbf, again, if you don't care about the side effects, it's worth it)

I really wanted to do track in highschool but I always need to wear lifts because unfortunately I'm below avg height. I wanted to be at peak physical condition for life and train multiple martial arts etc. but I actually need LL. It's so brutal

 

[BOLO_Mk.XXXIII]

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Average height for zoomer's now is not 6"2 lol it's 5"11 max.

giga cope

 

[BOLO_Mk.XXXIII]

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LL is literally only worth it if you're below avg height in your area unless you don't care about the brutality of never running the same, the cost and the recovery process. Height is always an SMV boost up to like 7ft but PSL points are so much more valuable than height inches if you're already average. (Edit, Inb4 some retard responds that average is manlet: Yes, I know, being at least 6'3" is ideal for very high SMV but LL is such a brutal surgery, but tbf, again, if you don't care about the side effects, it's worth it)

I really wanted to do track in highschool but I always need to wear lifts because unfortunately I'm below avg height. I wanted to be at peak physical condition for life and train multiple martial arts etc. but I actually need LL. It's so brutal

over

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

g

giga cope

Not gigacope or your just autistic.

 

[Prince88]

I really wanted to do track in highschool but I always need to wear lifts because unfortunately I'm below avg height. I wanted to be at peak physical condition for life and train multiple martial arts etc. but I actually need LL. It's so brutal

I can relate to this. I put off playing football with friends many times because I wouldn't be able to wear my lifts when playing. I even tried putting lifts in my boots but that didn't work.

 

[Growth Plate]

I can relate to this. I put off playing football with friends many times because I wouldn't be able to wear my lifts when playing. I even tried putting lifts in my boots but that didn't work.

What makes it more brutal is that I'm actually fast. I was one of the fastest in middle school track in PE class

 

[Deleted member 17429]

LL is literally only worth it if you're below avg height in your area unless you don't care about the brutality of never running the same, the cost and the recovery process. Height is always an SMV boost up to like 7ft but PSL points are so much more valuable than height inches if you're already average. (Edit, Inb4 some retard responds that average is manlet: Yes, I know, being at least 6'3" is ideal for very high SMV but LL is such a brutal surgery, but tbf, again, if you don't care about the side effects, it's worth it)

I really wanted to do track in highschool but I always need to wear lifts because unfortunately I'm below avg height. I wanted to be at peak physical condition for life and train multiple martial arts etc. but I actually need LL. It's so brutal

Height doesn’t increase your smv much after 6’4 dude. In fact I’d say it starts decreasing after 6’4 if you don’t have a proportionate frame

A 5’10 chad is still a Chad. A 6’2 HTN is still a HTN.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

I'm planning on taking cjc dac and oral mk677 pills for HGH and IGF1. For my thyroid, I will take iodine and selenium. Lastly, I'll ice my balls, sleep well, gymmaxx, and get on a clean bulking diet for testosterone (e.g. many eggs, etc.). My goal is to maxx my frame and height, whilst also potentially improve my facial structure. 5'11.5 or ~1.81cm at 18 years old, target is at least 6 feet or 183cm. Shoulder area is kind of small, as well. Chadlite lower third, passable midface (slightly long fwhr, slightly large philtrum, ideal lips, refined nose if a bit upturned), but subhuman eye area (neutral canthal tilt almond-like eyes but with negative eyebrow tilt and large eye orbits, some upper eyelid exposure, and somewhat curved lower lids). Face is about a 6, or HTN.

Other things I plan on doing are taking Vitamin K2 Mk4 and Mk7 plus vitamin D3, ankle weights + height stretches, calcium, zinc, sunflower, lecithin, ginko, biloba, dia earth, 1-2 gallons of water every day, and fasting every now and then.

No more being feminine and a thin-wristcel. My hands and feet are massive (46 shoe size, massive hands), 16-17cm D but somewhat thin. I have JBW on my side. Never been with a woman in my life, though I'm still quite young.

In terms of hardmaxxing, and especially if the softmaxxing doesn't have the intended results, I'm thinking of the dreaded LL surgery. Zoomies are on average 6'2, and 6'3/6'4 men (185-190cm) just absolutely can mog even with a normie or sub5 face. Other surgeries would be installation of orbital implants for my large eye orbits, and clavicle lengthening osteotomy for broad shoulders if the gymmaxxing doesn't add enough length. Clavicles are straight, though, so let's hope it's not needed.

jfl

Zoomers are not 6'2 on average unless you're in like Germany
You'll definitely get to 6 foot.

 

[Growth Plate]

Height doesn’t increase your smv much after 6’4 dude. In fact I’d say it starts decreasing after 6’4 if you don’t have a proportionate frame

A 5’10 chad is still a Chad. A 6’2 HTN is still a HTN.

@Native thoughts?

 

[SoonToAscend]

I'm planning on taking cjc dac and oral mk677 pills for HGH and IGF1. For my thyroid, I will take iodine and selenium. Lastly, I'll ice my balls, sleep well, gymmaxx, and get on a clean bulking diet for testosterone (e.g. many eggs, etc.). My goal is to maxx my frame and height, whilst also potentially improve my facial structure. 5'11.5 or ~1.81cm at 18 years old, target is at least 6 feet or 183cm. Shoulder area is kind of small, as well. Chadlite lower third, passable midface (slightly long fwhr, slightly large philtrum, ideal lips, refined nose if a bit upturned), but subhuman eye area (neutral canthal tilt almond-like eyes but with negative eyebrow tilt and large eye orbits, some upper eyelid exposure, and somewhat curved lower lids). Face is about a 6, or HTN.

Other things I plan on doing are taking Vitamin K2 Mk4 and Mk7 plus vitamin D3, ankle weights + height stretches, calcium, zinc, sunflower, lecithin, ginko, biloba, dia earth, 1-2 gallons of water every day, and fasting every now and then.

No more being feminine and a thin-wristcel. My hands and feet are massive (46 shoe size, massive hands), 16-17cm D but somewhat thin. I have JBW on my side. Never been with a woman in my life, though I'm still quite young.

In terms of hardmaxxing, and especially if the softmaxxing doesn't have the intended results, I'm thinking of the dreaded LL surgery. Zoomies are on average 6'2, and 6'3/6'4 men (185-190cm) just absolutely can mog even with a normie or sub5 face. Other surgeries would be installation of orbital implants for my large eye orbits, and clavicle lengthening osteotomy for broad shoulders if the gymmaxxing doesn't add enough length. Clavicles are straight, though, so let's hope it's not needed.

jfl

This is a good plan
Get x-ray to see if your growht plates are closed. Otherwise heightmaxxing will not work.

 

[BOLO_Mk.XXXIII]

This is a good plan
Get x-ray to see if your growht plates are closed. Otherwise heightmaxxing will not work.

They are closed, but the spinal ones are not. There are also other instances where people have grown taller with exercises, nutrition, vitains, ankle weights, and mk677 even after puberty. Muscles can be strengthened, posture improved, spine grown, and there may be some ways of even growing limbs if I probably tried hard enough.

 

[BOLO_Mk.XXXIII]

This is a good plan
Get x-ray to see if your growht plates are closed. Otherwise heightmaxxing will not work.

They are closed, but the spinal ones are not. There are also other instances where people have grown taller with exercises, nutrition, vitains, ankle weights, and mk677 even after puberty. Muscles can be strengthened, posture improved, spine grown, and there may be some ways of even growing limbs if I probably tried hard enough.

 

[SoonToAscend]

Past puberty there is only anecdotal evidence of people growing max 1 inch from massive usage of human growth hormone
Sleep stretching can possibly give you another inch, depending on how "tight" you are
Spine can't grow after growth plates are closed (no part of the body can)
Guy on this site claims he grew 3 inches by using relaxin (spent like 1500 dolars on it), but his skin lost its tightness. (age 30+)
Ray peat claims to grow by using prohormones (1 inch, 40+)

They are closed, but the spinal ones are not. There are also other instances where people have grown taller with exercises, nutrition, vitains, ankle weights, and mk677 even after puberty. Muscles can be strengthened, posture improved, spine grown, and there may be some ways of even growing limbs if I probably tried hard enough.

 

[poopmaster22]

Past puberty there is only anecdotal evidence of people growing max 1 inch from massive usage of human growth hormone
Sleep stretching can possibly give you another inch, depending on how "tight" you are
Spine can't grow after growth plates are closed (no part of the body can)
Guy on this site claims he grew 3 inches by using relaxin (spent like 1500 dolars on it), but his skin lost its tightness. (age 30+)
Ray peat claims to grow by using prohormones (1 inch, 40+)

I thought he spent 15k

 

[Dystopian]

what does cjc dac do and what is the dosage

 

[killaeast]

do you think cjc dac and mk 677 will make you gain height? cause I'm thinking of getting it

 

[Deleted member 8988]

46 shoe size at 180cm. brutal. Im 43-45 and already have troll proportions and im only slightly shorter. Those peptides are cope, MK677 is stronger and it isnt ideal at all.

 

[BOLO_Mk.XXXIII]

Past puberty there is only anecdotal evidence of people growing max 1 inch from massive usage of human growth hormone
Sleep stretching can possibly give you another inch, depending on how "tight" you are
Spine can't grow after growth plates are closed (no part of the body can)
Guy on this site claims he grew 3 inches by using relaxin (spent like 1500 dolars on it), but his skin lost its tightness. (age 30+)
Ray peat claims to grow by using prohormones (1 inch, 40+)

My doctor said my spine can still grow up to 6cm. How do you know this about the spine?

 

[SoonToAscend]

My doctor said my spine can still grow up to 6cm. How do you know this about the spine?

Know what about spine? It's growth potential?

 

[BOLO_Mk.XXXIII]

Know what about spine? It's growth potential?

You mention that no part of the body can grow after the growth plates fuse, but those exist only on the limbs. The spine's growth regions ossify at about 25 or so.

 

[SoonToAscend]

You mention that no part of the body can grow after the growth plates fuse, but those exist only on the limbs. The spine's growth regions ossify at about 25 or so.

There are spinal growth plates

 

[BOLO_Mk.XXXIII]

There are spinal growth plates

Yes, and those don't close until around 25.