Surgeon didn't agree to do a reverse brow lift

[Deleted member 8988]

He had said he can do it over the phone, even if it's an unusual request to lower the eyebrows with botox, and had set the consultation for two weeks later.
His assistant gave me the address to the wrong clinic and I've only found out that in the day of the consultation. I also had to make the trip through rain because I don't have a car and i'm a too poorcel studentcel for uber.
I had to wait in a pretentious kitsch salon with some botched stacy with duck lips and her chad bf.
The surgeon was like 6'10" and looked at me like at an ant.
The first thing that he tells me is that he never did a reverse brow lift with botox and that he didn't even believe it's possible. He said that botox in the frontalis muscle will only make certain facial expressions impossible but won't lower the eyebrows, which is definitely bs, as the muscle constantly pulls them up to a degree, even when having a neutral expression.
He then proceeded in giving me hints that I may have bdd, and saying I should go to a psychologist ( im 3.5 psl at best ).
I feared the fucker only wanted my money for the consultation, but he said I don't have to pay anything. I said I'll find another surgeon and left without shaking his hand.

I lost two weeks for nothing.

There are only 2 other board certified
plastic surgeons in my city that I know of, and one is a jew. I will definitely visit that one, at least he will want my money.

@Lihito

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

 

[Deleted member 15539]

Fucking hilarious ngl

Did you show him the thread that inspired you?

Go see the jew

 

[Deleted member 17829]

i love this site man

 

[Deleted member 17829]

Fucking hilarious ngl

Did you show him the thread that inspired you?

Go see the jew

wait can i see this thread as i also have high set eyebrwos

 

[Deleted member 8988]

Fucking hilarious ngl

Did you show him the thread that inspired you?

Go see the jew

of course not. He was bluepilled to the bone. I mean how could a tall normie who only operated on women and most likely only did fillers know better? I just expected that he will do what I say because I am paying jfl

 

[Deleted member 18361]

this is actually extremely common

 

[Deleted member 18301]

Are you Mexican I mean curry?

 

[Deleted member 8988]

wait can i see this thread as i also have high set eyebrwos

Hunter Eye Area with BOTOX to fix Upper Eyelid Exposure?

I thought Botox for eye area was cope but @ascentium posted his eye ascention which he achieved with Botox alone to lower the brow. **edit: these are not my eyes** Before: He asked the doctor this: “showed her a morph of myself with the brow dropped, and described the ‘hooded eyes’ effect...

looksmax.org

I wanted to fix my high set ( mainly to the sides ) arched eyebrows for long before I've seen this thread and knew botox can do it. My day has been ruined but I won't give up.

 

[Deleted member 8988]

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Are you Mexican I mean curry?

you're actually not far lol. latin language speaking country and have a curry pheno but ain't one.

 

[Deleted member 15539]

Hunter Eye Area with BOTOX to fix Upper Eyelid Exposure?

I thought Botox for eye area was cope but @ascentium posted his eye ascention which he achieved with Botox alone to lower the brow. **edit: these are not my eyes** Before: He asked the doctor this: “showed her a morph of myself with the brow dropped, and described the ‘hooded eyes’ effect...

looksmax.org

I wanted to fix my high set ( mainly to the sides ) arched eyebrows for long before I've seen this thread and knew botox can do it. My day has been ruined but I won't give up.

tbh i'm still not quite convinced those results are even legit. zje protrusion of the eyes in the before and after doesnt look like the same person to me. also the "after" has better under-eye-support with 0 scleral show; doesnt make sense for this to come from botox above the eye.

 

[Lihito]

He had said he can do it over the phone, even if it's an unusual request to lower the eyebrows with botox, and had set the consultation for two weeks later.
His assistant gave me the address to the wrong clinic and I've only found out that in the day of the consultation. I also had to make the trip through rain because I don't have a car and i'm a too poorcel studentcel for uber.
I had to wait in a pretentious kitsch salon with some botched stacy with duck lips and her chad bf.
The surgeon was like 6'10" and looked at me like at an ant.
The first thing that he tells me is that he never did a reverse brow lift with botox and that he didn't even believe it's possible. He said that botox in the frontalis muscle will only make certain facial expressions impossible but won't lower the eyebrows, which is definitely bs, as the muscle constantly pulls them up to a degree, even when having a neutral expression.
He then proceeded in giving me hints that I may have bdd, and saying I should go to a psychologist ( im 3.5 psl at best ).
I feared the fucker only wanted my money for the consultation, but he said I don't have to pay anything. I said I'll find another surgeon and left without shaking his hand.

I lost two weeks for nothing.

There are only 2 other board certified
plastic surgeons in my city that I know of, and one is a jew. I will definitely visit that one, at least he will want my money.

@Lihito

FUCK THAT FUCKING BITCH


I just cant fathom how someone would not want money FFS



GO TO THE JEWISH ONE NIGGAAAA

 

[Lihito]

Hunter Eye Area with BOTOX to fix Upper Eyelid Exposure?

I thought Botox for eye area was cope but @ascentium posted his eye ascention which he achieved with Botox alone to lower the brow. **edit: these are not my eyes** Before: He asked the doctor this: “showed her a morph of myself with the brow dropped, and described the ‘hooded eyes’ effect...

looksmax.org

I wanted to fix my high set ( mainly to the sides ) arched eyebrows for long before I've seen this thread and knew botox can do it. My day has been ruined but I won't give up.

This post from ascentium and The other guy is literaly The best eye area thing i have seen , and cheap also , BOTB worthy

 

[Deleted member 8988]

tbh i'm still not quite convinced those results are even legit. zje protrusion of the eyes in the before and after doesnt look like the same person to me. also the "after" has better under-eye-support with 0 scleral show; doesnt make sense for this to come from botox above the eye.

I have seen his full face before and after. He posted the pics on lookism a while back. He had a really good jaw and decent under eye support but bad UEE. Maybe someone can find that post.

There is also another guy who posted his reverse brow lift results here and had much lower set eyebrows, something impossible to achieve even with squinting. Can't find the thread though...

There is also Bewusst who made a ton of threads on this subject and is a strong advocate against botox because he was unlucky enough to get botulism. It would make no sense for him to claim botox works in lowering the eyebrows yet do that.

there is also this paper that says botox can be used to lower or alter the shape of the eyebrows: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-0-387-69007-0_105

 

[Deleted member 8988]

FUCK THAT FUCKING BITCH


I just cant fathom how someone would not want money FFS



GO TO THE JEWISH ONE NIGGAAAA

I'm starting to think that the real reason for rejecting my demand was that he had absolutely no idea that botox can be used to lower the eyebrows and was afraid of doing something stupid when injecting, so if anything it's better it went this way.
just lol at the surgeons in my country though. I wouldn't fly to another country only for this tho...

 

[Edgar]

he said I don't have to pay anything. I said I'll find another surgeon and left without shaking his hand.

Lol disrespectful af

 

[Deleted member 8988]

Lol disrespectful af

one of the most low inhib things I did ( i used to be very high inhib ). I let him hold his hand up for a full minute while looking with scorn straight into his eyes, as if I were to say:"so you're unable to do a basic non surgical procedure that one could even self perform".
He fully deserved it. Firstly I had no idea he won't take my money, and secondly he had just finished in telling me I'm insane and need to go to a therapist, while I was having PTSD flashbacks of the days I've been bullied for my looks. He also wrote on my paper that I suffer from BDD as an insult.

 

[Lihito]

He had said he can do it over the phone, even if it's an unusual request to lower the eyebrows with botox, and had set the consultation for two weeks later.
His assistant gave me the address to the wrong clinic and I've only found out that in the day of the consultation. I also had to make the trip through rain because I don't have a car and i'm a too poorcel studentcel for uber.
I had to wait in a pretentious kitsch salon with some botched stacy with duck lips and her chad bf.
The surgeon was like 6'10" and looked at me like at an ant.
The first thing that he tells me is that he never did a reverse brow lift with botox and that he didn't even believe it's possible. He said that botox in the frontalis muscle will only make certain facial expressions impossible but won't lower the eyebrows, which is definitely bs, as the muscle constantly pulls them up to a degree, even when having a neutral expression.
He then proceeded in giving me hints that I may have bdd, and saying I should go to a psychologist ( im 3.5 psl at best ).
I feared the fucker only wanted my money for the consultation, but he said I don't have to pay anything. I said I'll find another surgeon and left without shaking his hand.

I lost two weeks for nothing.

There are only 2 other board certified
plastic surgeons in my city that I know of, and one is a jew. I will definitely visit that one, at least he will want my money.

@Lihito

Friendly advice , go do it somewhere else tbh , im in balkans and our surgeons prolly only know scheduled stuff and would inject in your vein

GET SOMEONE THAT KNOWS THIS SHIT

 

[Lihito]

tbh i'm still not quite convinced those results are even legit. zje protrusion of the eyes in the before and after doesnt look like the same person to me. also the "after" has better under-eye-support with 0 scleral show; doesnt make sense for this to come from botox above the eye.

Good take but i hate my dreams Being broken

Back to brow hooding

 

[Lihito]

I'm starting to think that the real reason for rejecting my demand was that he had absolutely no idea that botox can be used to lower the eyebrows and was afraid of doing something stupid when injecting, so if anything it's better it went this way.
just lol at the surgeons in my country though. I wouldn't fly to another country only for this tho...

Where u at

 

[Deleted member 8988]

Where u at

I'm also in the Balkans. absolutely terrible surgeons here. They don't even deserve to be called so. I won't go to another country for botox. I may just give up. I also don't wasnt to go for fillers because of the risk of blindness, that even if can be avoided well when injecting, still persists months after if the filler migrates. If no specialist wants to do the botox thing, I will just cope with hypertrophying the orbicularis oculi muscle and with minoxidil to grow the eyebrows lower...

 

[Edgar]

one of the most low inhib things I did ( i used to be very high inhib ). I let him hold his hand up for a full minute while looking with scorn straight into his eyes, as if I were to say:"so you're unable to do a basic non surgical procedure that one could even self perform".
He fully deserved it. Firstly I had no idea he won't take my money, and secondly he had just finished in telling me I'm insane and need to go to a therapist, while I was having PTSD flashbacks of the days I've been bullied for my looks. He also wrote on my paper that I suffer from BDD as an insult.

Huh okay then, i was thinking like he didn't charge you at least

 

[Lihito]

I'm also in the Balkans. absolutely terrible surgeons here. They don't even deserve to be called so. I won't go to another country for botox. I may just give up. I also don't wasnt to go for fillers because of the risk of blindness, that even if can be avoided well when injecting, still persists months after if the filler migrates. If no specialist wants to do the botox thing, I will just cope with hypertrophying the orbicularis oculi muscle and with minoxidil to grow the eyebrows lower...

Romania or ex yugo?

 

[Deleted member 8988]

Romania or ex yugo?

România. Not very proud of my country lately

 

[Lihito]

I'm also in the Balkans. absolutely terrible surgeons here. They don't even deserve to be called so. I won't go to another country for botox. I may just give up. I also don't wasnt to go for fillers because of the risk of blindness, that even if can be avoided well when injecting, still persists months after if the filler migrates. If no specialist wants to do the botox thing, I will just cope with hypertrophying the orbicularis oculi muscle and with minoxidil to grow the eyebrows lower...

Try putting Brown fat with ice gels packed in plastic (its used instead of ice as cold press) Like i do (i know it would not make them low set but it Will deff increase The fat there). Put this cold shit on your brows Like i do.

Also minox and castor yeah

 

[Lihito]

România. Not very proud of my country lately

Why not proud. I love how your telecomunication services made good use od free market and now you have fastest and cheapest internet and a lot of competition

 

[Deleted member 8988]

Why not proud. I love how your telecomunication services made good use od free market and now you have fastest and cheapest internet and a lot of competition

Covid was handled terribly from any point of view 120 mil vaccines bought from that only a small fraction were used ( because most of them were for the first variant ) , also the restrictions weren't put in place fast enough, and the economy suffered greatly, more than it should have had.
We have the lowest or one of the lowest military spendings in nato iirc and still use 1950s soviet aircraft and tanks.
The small producers and business aren't supported but on the contrary.
except internet our infrastructure is bad. we have very few highways, and most the money that went into them were stolen by the corrupt politicians .
Pollution is a major issue that isn't addressed yet, not how it should be.
corruption makes killing endangered species and erasing kms of forests that shouldn't be a norm.
And of course, the lowest of the low flee to the western countries and give us a bad name. fewer are hardworking intelligent people though.

 

[Lihito]

Covid was handled terribly from any point of view 120 mil vaccines bought from that only a small fraction were used ( because most of them were for the first variant ) , also the restrictions weren't put in place fast enough, and the economy suffered greatly, more than it should have had.
We have the lowest or one of the lowest military spendings in nato iirc and still use 1950s soviet aircraft and tanks.
The small producers and business aren't supported but on the contrary.
except internet our infrastructure is bad. we have very few highways, and most the money that went into them were stolen by the corrupt politicians .
Pollution is a major issue that isn't addressed yet, not how it should be.
corruption makes killing endangered species and erasing kms of forests that shouldn't be a norm.
And of course, the lowest of the low flee to the western countries and give us a bad name. fewer are hardworking intelligent people though.

it would be cool if you tried free market initiatives but for other things

lolberts ascending us again

fuck planned economy , market is a living being , not some fixed ideological point some dictator can boast about

communism ruined you

yugoslavia ascended before war tho

fucking war and USA and NATO hoes

 

[valhalar]

I am glad the thread I posted motivated you go to and see him, but his response is disappointing. He sounds like a pussy who is too scared to do it.

Tbh I think the best people to see might be eye area plastic surgeons who also do Botox? But I might be wrong. None the less it seems you need to find someone who is willing to just risk doing something they’ve never done before. Hopefully the money hungry doc will bite.

 

[valhalar]

Also i think showing any doctor the before pics and the video is worth doing. The dude also got a little bit injected into the muscle between brows:

described the ‘hooded eyes’ effect I wanted. She instantly knew what I was referring to, & I had 14 units at $9/unit injected into my frontalis & procerus muscles, the majority went into the frontalis. No fillers just Botox, & results rival a good % or surgical interventions

 

[Deleted member 15539]

I have seen his full face before and after. He posted the pics on lookism a while back. He had a really good jaw and decent under eye support but bad UEE. Maybe someone can find that post.

There is also another guy who posted his reverse brow lift results here and had much lower set eyebrows, something impossible to achieve even with squinting. Can't find the thread though...

There is also Bewusst who made a ton of threads on this subject and is a strong advocate against botox because he was unlucky enough to get botulism. It would make no sense for him to claim botox works in lowering the eyebrows yet do that.

there is also this paper that says botox can be used to lower or alter the shape of the eyebrows: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-0-387-69007-0_105
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thank you, great reply. i'll look into it!

Good take but i hate my dreams Being broken

Back to brow hooding

lmao

 

[Deprived]

Brutal. Lmk if you ever find a surgeon tbh

 

[Deleted member 19281]

Who cares u fuckin morron?

 

[Deleted member 8988]

Who cares u fuckin morron?

thanks for bumping the thread. I will actually get it done this tuesday and post results. I just had to find a better specialist.