Surgery is cope

[Peco]

Most of the people that ask for morphs and talk about how they will get surgery in the future will probably never do it. All surgery does for you is create false expectations and give you a reason to not try as hard. Think about it, if surgery didn't exist you would work and research extra hard because there wouldn't be an "easy" fix to your problems. Reality though isn't much different from this imaginary scenario: surgery is extremely expensive and even if you already had all the money for it, the whole process would take years to complete, if you take into account booking, recovery and braces which you'll likely need. And this is assuming nothing goes wrong. For the entirety of this time like I said you will not work and research as much as you would normally , because everything you do will seem worthless in comparison to the expectations you have for the impact your surgery is gonna have. It's certain though that these expectations will not be met even if everything goes the best possible way. On top of that even assuming everything went right and your expectations were met perfectly which is already borderline impossible, there is still a very high risk of relapse which would make all your efforts useless.

Surgery is slowing you down and limiting you. I really would like yall to give some actual criticism on this. Bye

 

[5_4]

dnr

 

[ICL]

For those who are trying to get the "optimal result" that's probably true.

Especially those getting LL


or implants, like, you're not affording that, better use filler, at least you can use it.


Osteotomies don't count though

 

[Peco]

For those who are trying to get the "optimal result" that's probably true.

Especially those getting LL


or implants, like, you're not affording that, better use filler, at least you can use it.


Osteotomies don't count though

I think what I say is true for all facial surgeries. The only surgery I would actually recommend is the one for protruding ears, not sure what the name is. Also I think implants and fillers isn't the way to go either

 

[sorib122]

Most of the people that ask for morphs and talk about how they will get surgery in the future will probably never do it. All surgery does for you is create false expectations and give you a reason to not try as hard. Think about it, if surgery didn't exist you would work and research extra hard because there wouldn't be an "easy" fix to your problems. Reality though isn't much different from this imaginary scenario: surgery is extremely expensive and even if you already had all the money for it, the whole process would take years to complete, if you take into account booking, recovery and braces which you'll likely need. And this is assuming nothing goes wrong. For the entirety of this time like I said you will not work and research as much as you would normally , because everything you do will seem worthless in comparison to the expectations you have for the impact your surgery is gonna have. It's certain though that these expectations will not be met even if everything goes the best possible way. On top of that even assuming everything went right and your expectations were met perfectly which is already borderline impossible, there is still a very high risk of relapse which would make all your efforts useless.

Surgery is slowing you down and limiting you. I really would like yall to give some actual criticism on this. Bye

i agree that most people on this forum talking abt hardmaxxing wont probably follow through with it.
but saying all surgery does is create a false expectation is utter bs, some things just arent achievable without it, for aesthetics and health reasons

and for those who follow through with surgeries if there not retards they have probably done extensive amounts of research

 

[Peco]

i agree that most people on this forum talking abt hardmaxxing wont probably follow through with it.
but saying all surgery does is create a false expectation is utter bs, some things just arent achievable without it, for aesthetics and health reasons

and for those who follow through with surgeries if there not retards they have probably done extensive amounts of research

The amount of research you do doesn't matter because things can always go wrong and it's 100% sure your expectations will not be met even if everything goes right. Also there isn't much research you can do other then looking for a good surgeons, but once you actually are there doing the surgery you are helpless.
I also do not think there are things you can't achieve without surgery unless you have some genetic deformity. Sure there are individual things that you cannot achieve without surgery but in terms of overall aesthetics I do not think so. And like I said in the post I think surgery can limit you in that regard

 

[Acquiescence]

EVERYTHING is cope

 

[Peco]

EVERYTHING is cope

Not all things but most things sure

 

[Peco]

More people need to see this

 

[Peco]

Not enough people are aware of this

 

[Jgns]

im hoping to go from mmtn or a bit higher to htn or mhtn and with my failos its pretty possible but who knows maybe i get botched and kill myself

 

[Peco]

im hoping to go from mmtn or a bit higher to htn or mhtn and with my failos its pretty possible but who knows maybe i get botched and kill myself

Like I explained in the post I would say that's not worth the risk

 

[Jgns]

Like I explained in the post I would say that's not worth the risk

i got everything ready and the surgeries im getting are the safest and highest roi ones that are possible luckily. I have the time, the money, and the connections for it all, and im ok with the risk. It doesnt have to be perfect but im going to go to good doctors so it'll be good enough.

 

[Peco]

i got everything ready and the surgeries im getting are the safest and highest roi ones that are possible luckily. I have the time, the money, and the connections for it all, and im ok with the risk. It doesnt have to be perfect but im going to go to good doctors so it'll be good enough.

What are the surgeries if I can ask ?

 

[Jgns]

What are the surgeries if I can ask ?

a ht, a bsso with small inframalar implants, a rhino and a forehead reduction before the ht to not use up too many grafts, and some fat grafting too probably. the craziest thing ill probably do tht im still unsure about is a liplift but im unsure rn i could send u wht i look like if u want.

 

[Peco]

a ht, a bsso with small inframalar implants, a rhino and a forehead reduction before the ht to not use up too many grafts, and some fat grafting too probably. the craziest thing ill probably do tht im still unsure about is a liplift but im unsure rn i could send u wht i look like if u want.

Height transplant and forehead reduction are fine and if you do suffer from hair loss and you have the money I would recommend them for sure. Rhino and bsso especially with implants I would not recommend and lip lift should be absolutely avoided since it's basically only skin and soft tissue and the risk of looking like you have permanent duck lips especially as a male is definitely not worth it.

 

[Jgns]

Height transplant and forehead reduction are fine and if you do suffer from hair loss and you have the money I would recommend them for sure. Rhino and bsso especially with implants I would not recommend and lip lift should be absolutely avoided since it's basically only skin and soft tissue and the risk of looking like you have permanent duck lips especially as a male is definitely not worth it.

why wouldn't u recommend the rhino and bsso with implants btw? ive seen alot of results here even that look really good. Im getting the bsso cause of tmj reasons but lemme show u what i look like

 

[Peco]

more people need to see this