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Surgery is the best way to ascend in looksmaxxing nothing can really match it.

In this thread I will go over the top 50 best surgeries. And go over there pros and cons, cost and much more

So sit back turn on the music and enjoy

What each part outlines

Intro-

introduction of what the surgery does

Benefits-
What benefits you get from the surgery

Negatives-
Risks associated with the surgery

Cost-
What the range of costs it will be

Recovery
Expected recovery
An anecdote or general observation (or AI if I couldn’t find either) of what recovery will look like

Complication rate
Mortality rate and rate of complications

Results
Some examples of results

Conclusion
A rating out of 10 for all these factors

Effectiveness (potential of the surgery)
Ease of getting (how easy it’s to get)
Complication rate (how dangerous it is)
Cost (how expensive)
Overall (all factors taken into account)

Best Locations in general

1. Italy/ Germany/ London
  • Cost- $$$ High
  • Quality-👨🏼‍⚕️👨🏼‍⚕️👨🏼‍⚕️High
2. USA/ Turkey
  • Cost- $$ Moderate
  • Quality- 👨🏽‍⚕️👨🏽‍⚕️Moderate
3. India/ Thailand
  • Cost- $ Low
  • Quality- 👨🏿‍⚕️Low
Best doctors (in general)


How to speed up/ improve recovery (from @HighIQ ubermensch )

HGH + BPC-157 + GHK-Cu → Soft-Tissue Regeneration (Amplified)

Why:
• HGH / IGF pathways → ↑ collagen synthesis, ↑ tissue turnover.
• BPC-157 → accelerates tendon, ligament, and peripheral nerve healing; boosts angiogenesis; reduces inflammation (animal + preliminary human data).
• GHK-Cu → improves collagen remodeling, angiogenesis, and microcirculation.

Synergy: Creates a highly pro-repair environment for connective tissue.

2. Test E + GH (or GH analogs) → Muscle Maintenance / Anti-Atrophy

Why:
• Testosterone → preserves muscle mass & strength, counteracts disuse atrophy.
• GH → preserves lean mass & complements connective tissue repair.

Cautions:
• Test → ↑ hematocrit, transient ↑ VTE risk (esp. within first 6 months).
• GH → fluid retention, potential insulin resistance.

3. BPC-157 Solo → Tendon & Nerve MVP

Why:
• In animal models: speeds sciatic nerve regeneration, enhances tendon outgrowth, boosts angiogenesis, reduces inflammation.
• Rare peptide with direct peripheral nerve repair data.

Note: Human data sparse but promising.

I recommend,
  • HGH → 6 IU/day, is about as high as most tolerate without side effects.
  • BPC-157 → 1,000–2,000 mcg/day split.
  • GHK-Cu → 500 mcg/day split.
  • Test E → 500 mg/week.
Start with the Distraction phase. Don’t be soy about "muh VTE & muscle–tendon, strength balance, fluid retention"

— unless you’re genetic trash or a fossil fuel, this shouldn’t be a problem.

These will increase soft tissue repair by multiple folds.

Tho, nerve adaptation is not sped up that dramatically & it will be the main factor why you aren’t able to reduce the recovery time to below 7 months.

But your strength & function will be way better than if you don’t use these compounds, both during & after



Intro
The Le Fort I osteotomy is a surgical procedure to realign the upper jaw (maxilla). This procedure is a type orthognathic surgery that is primarily performed to fix deformities of the face and jaw, improve facial aesthetics, treat malocclusions (misaligned teeth), and treat certain medical conditions. The surgery involves separating the maxilla from the rest of the skull and then repositioning it.

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Benefits
It repositions the hard palate for aesthetic purposes. The hard palate can move forwards, backwards, up or down depending on your request/ need.

Negatives

Nerve issues

Teeth/ orthodontic issues

Infection

Pain and swelling


Cost

£10,000- £35,000

Depending on the doctor but I wouldn’t pay over £20,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

Anecdotal recovery from @chrishel so you’d know what to expect

“i had no pain ever

if you have titanium plates, you can have start soft food within a few weeks

with lefort your nose will be severely congested with a hardened bloodmucus mix for several weeks

speaking was impossible for about a week.

for 3 weeks more it was but possible but difficult

lefort area sensation came back within 1 month for me

still don't have all my chin and lower lip back but coming back slowly

only soft food until around 2 months

at 2 months i could eat most foods, but held off on things like baguettes and steak until 3 months

swelling lasts a very long time. according to recent research 20% on average remains at 6 months, 10% remains at 1 year. And it sticks around in the paranasal area, which makes you look bloated for a long time. But most probably look "natural" to others by 2 to 3 months. It's still going down for me. You read a lot on jaw surgery reddit and other sites of people saying "my swelling was gone by 2 months!" no it hasnt. It's just they decide the moment they begin liking their new look is when the swelling is gone.

takes over a year for bone to fill in the gaps but by 6 to 8 months it has been filled with porous prebone

2 months before you can go back to the gym. probably 6 months to a year before you can do mma again. Those are very high risk activities.”

Complication rate

Studies show 6.1% to 9% of lefort 1 have a complication happen which is actually quite low.

Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 4

Complication rate 6

Cost 3

Overall 6

Intro

Le Fort II is a type of pyramidal midface fracture that involves the separation of the central midface, including the upper jaw, nose, and both lower orbital rims from the skull

Benefits

This surgical procedure involves repositioning the midface to create a more proportionate and aesthetically pleasing facial appearance. It targets the hard palate, nose and maxilla


Negatives

Increased Mortality and Intracranial Injury

Visual Deficits

Malocclusion

Nasal Obstruction

Nerve damage


Cost

£20,000-£45,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

Day 1-7
Only liquid food diet
A lot of pain

Week 1-6
Significant swelling
You can gradually add soft foods
You can start light activity like walking again

Month 2-6
Swelling goes down
Still soft foods
Regular follow ups from surgeon
Be careful at activities

Month 6-12
Swelling goes away
You can have solid food again
You can do normal activities

Complication rate

Mortality rate of 1.9%

Complication rate 19% to 21%

Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 2

Complication rate 5

Cost 2

Overall 5

Intro

A Le Fort III is a complex craniofacial surgery that separates the entire midface (upper jaw, nose, cheekbones, and lower eye sockets) from the skull to reposition it forward.

Benefits

provides significant aesthetic benefits by repositioning the entire midface. This repositions the cheeks, upper jaw, nose, and lower orbital rims


Negatives

Vision and Eye Problems

CSF Leakage

Nerve Damage

Airway Obstruction

Meningitis and Seizures

Increased Mortality Risk


Cost

Around £35,000- £60,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“They said the operation took 6.5 hours and I was out for 8. When I woke up it took my brain a good moment to crank up and even realize that I had the surgery at all, I really couldn’t tell. I was completely out of it due to the anesthesia and intensity of the operation. Because of a potential risk for malignant hyperthermia, they had used a fully intravenous anesthetic combo which I’ll copy/paste: Rocuronium, Propofol, FentaNYL, Ketamine, HYDROmorphone. I’m not sure how common/uncommon it is for all those to be used in conjunction but I’ve had like 6 or so surgeries by now and, in terms of the drugs, this one absolutely floored me. When I was looking at the reports online weeks later, I saw they had made a diagnosis of “toxic encephalopathy from sedating medications.” I was trapped in some dream-like dissociated state for the duration of the hospital stay and I don’t know how to explain it but it felt like psychological torture because I couldn’t come to my senses or break free from of it.

I spent 3 days in the hospital and was served ice cream and soup but was mostly unable to have any of it because I kept choking every time I tried to sip anything. I wasn’t even able to drink water without immediately choking. Looking it back it felt both crushing and humbling because I was fully incapable of nourishing myself and relied mostly on IV fluids. My mouth felt like when you’re getting molds of your teeth made but 10x worse, but I just pretended to not acknowledge it and all was fine. I was also put on oxygen during the stay as apparently I wasn’t breathing effectively enough on my own and had developed pneumonia and “acute respiratory failure with hypoxia” and atelectasis, whatever all that’s about.

I couldn’t stand or walk on my own for the first 1.5-2 days and was still weak and unsteady for the few weeks following. But I would partly attribute a good chunk of the early post-op struggles to the anesthetics and me being 110 pounds at the time of operation; I wasn’t exactly the strongest patient to begin with.

There was this clear liquid (most likely tears) constantly dripping from my nose and onto my chest, soaking through my hospital gown and any towels they would put there. The thing is that it was freezing cold and would not stop, which made it impossible for me to sleep or feel a bit of comfort. During the experience it kinda felt like some twisted torture method or something, I was completely powerless to make any of it stop.

My eyes were swollen shut for 14 days and my nose was fully blocked with solid, dark blood for even longer than that. I was able to force my eyes open for a few seconds at a time but of course my vision was too blurry to make anything out. For at least about 4 weeks my vision was blurred like very teary eyes or a car windshield in pouring rain. My throat also hurt a ton for about 3 weeks from the intubation which was just a bit annoying. My eyebrows and forehead were paralyzed for many months in that I couldn’t raise my eyebrows or move them at all. My face, the upper lips and cheek in particular, were numb and felt very swollen and thick for many months. But, as with everything else, this all fully resolved within the first year.

I was on a full liquid diet for 2 months before moving to very soft foods and gradually returning to more normal foods over the next several months. I had to take a break from school so I had nothing but free time which honestly made for some of the best, coziest days I’ve had in a long time. I forced myself to keep my eyes open on the 15th day so I could just sit and watch YouTube during the dark, early mornings every day and it was so nice.

A couple months post-op I began having what are called “zingers” in my forehead and scalp that would occur spontaneously. It felt like a very deep, jarring sting like you’re being stabbed by a needle from the inside out. But they lasted like half a second each and are a sign of nerve regeneration/healing and had completely stopped within the first year post-op.

I used to have a sensitive/tender sensation in my temples if I bit down too hard on tough/crunchy food and I believe that is because the “deep temporal fascia” had to be incised during the operation. That too has completely healed within the first year, I have been able to use my jaws with full mobility and force for a while now with no complaints. Even if I try to overexert and stretch/bite too hard, I experience no issues or hindrances of any kind. Aside from drastic functional and visual improvement, there’s no sensory differences or indication that any surgery had even been done and I’m not sure whether that’s normal or insane relative to what most people experience.”

A anecdote from Reddit by



Complication rate

Mortality rate 2.68%

Complications 17.4%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 1

Complication rate 4

Cost 1

Overall 6

Intro

shortened term for bimaxillary surgery, also known as double jaw surgery, a procedure that repositions both the upper and lower jaws. It combines two procedures lefort 1 and mandibular osteotomy

Benefits

You can reposition the upper and lower jaw for your choosing


Negatives

Paraesthesia

nerve damage may be permanent

Open bite

Jaw fracture

TMJ disorder

Bleeding and infection

Stiffness

Hearing changes


Cost

Around £10,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“Probably one of the most difficult experiences I've ever had to go through physically. I was one of the unlucky ones and had severe swelling post-op, which when combined with having your jaws wired shut and your nose blocked with dried blood makes breathing almost impossible. In the first 3 days of recovery I had two panic attacks because I was so worried that I would vomit from swallowing so much blood and it wouldn't have anywhere to go...

I was on a purely liquid diet for 6 weeks (even lumpy soup had to be blended until it was completely liquid), and then I had my jaw unwired and could eat mushy food that could be eaten without chewing. At 8 weeks I started to chew soft food very very slowly”

Anecdote from Reddit



Complication rate

Complication rate is 1-7%

Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 6

Cost 2

Overall 6

Intro
variation of bimaxillary surgery where the maxilla (upper jaw) and mandible (lower jaw) are moved forward and then rotated upwards in a counterclockwise direction

Benefits

The overall aesthetic goal of a CCW rotation is to achieve a more aesthetically pleasing, shorter, and balanced lower facial third

Negatives

Overtly shortening of the jaw

Airway Restriction

Nerve Injury

Bleeding and Infection


Cost

£15,000 to £40,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

Generally, here are some key points regarding recovery and returning to work:

  1. Initial Recovery: Most patients experience swelling and discomfort in the first week post-surgery. During this time, a soft food diet is typically recommended, and pain management is important.
  2. Time Off Work: Many patients take about 1 to 2 weeks off work for initial recovery. However, if your job involves physical activity or requires clear speech, you may need up to 4 weeks or more.
  3. Full Recovery: Complete recovery, including the resolution of swelling and return to normal function, can take several months. Most people see significant improvement in 6 to 8 weeks, but full healing can take 3 to 6 months.
  4. Follow-up Appointments: Regular follow-up visits with your oral surgeon or orthodontist will be necessary to monitor your recovery and adjust treatment as needed.
Complication rate

Complication rate of 9.5%

Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 2

Complication rate 5

Cost 2

Overall 5

Intro

advanced type of orthognathic (jaw) surgery that corrects severe bite disorders and facial deformities by repositioning the upper jaw (maxilla), lower jaw (mandible), and hard palate

Benefits

The procedure repositions the upper jaw, lower jaw, and hard palate simultaneously

Negatives

Infection/ bleeding

Bite problems

TMJ issues


Cost

£15,000-£45,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“did it hurt?

I feel like my face being fallen from the building on the concrete pavement every seconds for the first 2 weeks. I had painkiller every 4 hours fyi.

how long was recovery and did it significantly improve your smv?

3 months post-op finally can chew 80% of the foods still 15-20% swelling

did you puke blood the first night

yes

how long the rly bad stuff lasted. what was your worst moment

how did you feel waking up after the surgery

Bad stuffs lasted 3 weeks. can't eat can't talk can't sleep flat and all the swollen cheeks pushed the teeth causing indentation inside.

I saw light and somebody shaking my body for 2 mins then I gain concious and saw the nruse and my mom. The pain felt like I fell from the plane lol.”

This is anecdotal evidence from Bölþorn.Anabolic

Complication rate

12-25% complication rare

Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 1

Complication rate 4

Cost 1

Overall 5

Intro

The procedure involves making small incisions, usually inside the mouth or under the eyelids, to position the customized implants over the existing cheekbones.


Benefits

surgery involves increases cheekbone size


Negatives

Infection, pain and numbness

Implant Shifting

Nerve Damage


Cost

£3,000-£7,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

Cheek implant recovery involves managing swelling, bruising, and discomfort with pain medication and cold compresses for the first 1-2 weeks. You'll need to follow a soft diet and avoid strenuous activities and contact sports for several weeks, attend follow-up appointments with your surgeon, and keep your head elevated, especially for the first 48 hours. While you may see an improvement in your appearance immediately, final results are typically visible after the swelling fully subsides in 4 to 8 weeks


Complication rate

Around 10.7%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 7

Complication rate 7

Cost 6

Overall 6

Intro

Jaw implants are a surgical procedure to place a biocompatible implant, often silicone or PEEK, to enhance a weak or poorly defined jawline


Benefits

The benefits of jaw implant surgery includes: Creating a more defined, angular jawline


Negatives

Swelling

Nerve damage, bleeding and bruising

Migration or Displacement

Extrusion

Unfavorable Scarring

Bone reabsorption


Cost

£2,000-£5,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“It's an emotional rollercoaster. I was mentally prepared to endure a lot of pain, but the pain was minimal, not to say I didn't feel any pain at all after 3 days of my surgery. The most difficult part is the swelling. Currently, I'm 14 weeks post op and I recently started to look in the mirror and feel normal. If you decide to get jaw implants, be prepared to look like you're VERY overweight for at least 3 months. My surgeon told me I will see the final result by the 6th month. I don't regret having the surgery now, but I did feel like I screwed my face in the first 2 months, to the point I didn't want anyone to see me, not even friends or relatives”

Anecdote from Reddit



Complication rate

Between 2% to 24% depending on the study


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 7

Complication rate 6

Cost 6

Overall 6

Intro

These are implants that increase the perceived size and shape of the jaw

Benefits

These implants length of the jaw for a stronger profile


Negatives

Infection, nerve damage, pain etc

Implant Shifting or Extrusion


Muscle Issues (masseter)


Cost

From $5,000 to $15,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“Jaw angle implant recovery involves managing swelling and discomfort for the first few weeks, with soft foods required for about 4-6 weeks and a return to light activities within a week.While significant changes are often noticeable within 2-3 weeks, complete resolution of swelling and the final results may take up to 3 to 6 months, with full healing potentially taking 9-12 months”


Complication rate

Around 10%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 7

Complication rate 7

Cost 6

Overall 6

Intro

surgical implants used for brow bone augmentation to alter the projection and shape of the brow bone, making the eyes appear deeper-set and the upper face more defined

Benefits

Increase the size of your browridge in addition to lowering the eyebrows


Negatives

Infection, Bleeding, scarring etc

Contour Irregularities(swelling, irregular scarring, visible edges etc)

Nerve Manipulation


Cost

approximately $2,500 to over $50,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“managing swelling and discomfort for the first few weeks, with significant swelling peaking around two days and gradually decreasing over several weeks. While initial activities like driving may resume in 1–2 days, and work in 7–10 days, avoiding strenuous exercise, heavy lifting, and bending is crucial for 4–6 weeks to protect the implant and allow proper healing”


Complication rate

around 10%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 5

Ease of getting 5

Complication rate 6

Cost 6

Overall 5

Intro

A chin implant, also known as a menthoplasty or chin augmentation surgery, is a cosmetic procedure where a solid implant, usually made of medical-grade silicone, is surgically inserted into the chin area to enhance its size, shape, projection, and definition.

Benefits

Can increase chin height, width, shape and projection


Negatives

Infection, nerve damage, scarring etc

Implant migration

Poor Cosmetic Outcome


Cost

£3,900 to over £7,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“First 24–48 Hours: Immediate Post-Surgery Period

It is pretty much expected to have swelling and bruising in the area of the chin and jawline right after the surgery. This swelling will stay for the first couple of days. This makes it essential for the patient to follow the after-care protocol given by the team at the Estherian Clinic.

First Week After Surgery

Some pain and discomfort around the chin and jaw area will stay during the first week after the surgery. This week is a crucial time in the healing process of the chin implant procedure. Since this is the time when most of the swelling and bruising is expected to die down, the patient will be instructed to get lots of rest. While patients are advised to wait 10 days before continuing with their routine, they need to monitor their healing progress to make sure everything is going as expected. Proper oral hygiene is also required to help with better healing.

Weeks 2 to 4: Stitches and Early Results

Week 2 will also involve a massive reduction in swelling. With each passing week, the patient will see an improvement in the appearance of their chin, and their results will become more prominent. However, patients are still advised to avoid strenuous activities.

After 2 Months: Final Results and Full Healing

After the first 2 months post-surgery, the scar will begin to fade, and the implant will begin to look natural and settle. The final results involve better chin projection and an overall more sculpted chin and jawline area. “

Complication rate

Around 7%

Results
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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 7

Cost 7

Overall 7

Intro

often custom-made from materials like silicone, Medpore, or titanium, used in cosmetic or reconstructive surgery to correct bony deficiencies in the lower eye socket and cheek area

Benefits

Will improve eye orbits and under eye area


Negatives

Lower Eyelid Issues

Swelling and Bruising

Infection, scarring and nerve damage etc

Chemosis


Cost

approximately $6,500 to over $10,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

Days 1-7

  • Swelling and Bruising: Expect significant swelling and bruising, with the worst swelling often on day 3. The bruising may appear on your eyelids, face, and even extend to your cheeks and neck due to gravity.
  • Discomfort: You may experience pain, tenderness to the touch, and tightness in the surgical area.
  • Healing: The days are for resting, avoiding strenuous activities, and eating small, easily digestible meals.
  • Care: Apply ice packs to the area and sleep with your head elevated to help manage swelling.
  • Stitches/Tarsorrhaphy: A temporary stitch may be placed in the corner of your eye to control swelling and will be removed within 3-7 days.
Days 7-14

  • Improved Swelling: The swelling should gradually decrease day by day, but it will still be very noticeable.
  • Bruising Color Changes: The bruising will change color from purple to green or yellow as it heals.
  • Return to Light Activity: You can likely return to work or social outings.
Weeks 2-3 and Beyond

  • Resolving Swelling: Most of the swelling and bruising should resolve within these weeks.
  • Suture Removal: Your stitches or temporary tarsorrhaphy will have been removed.
  • Makeup: You may be able to use makeup after your sutures are removed and swelling has decreased.
  • Final Results: While you'll look like yourself in about 14 days, the complete healing and final results can take 3-6 months.

Complication rate

Around 15%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 6

Cost 4

Overall 6

Intro

precisely shaped medical devices, made from materials like PEEK, titanium, or 3D-printed hydroxyapatite, used to reconstruct missing or damaged skull areas, restore cranial shape

Benefits

Increased cranium / skull size


Negatives

Seizures

Infection

Cerebrospinal Fluid (CSF) Leaks

Hematoma


Cost

£15,000 to £25,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

Week 1: Immediate post-surgery
  • Hospital stay: Most patients spend two to five days in the hospital for monitoring.
  • Pain and discomfort: It is normal to have a headache and feel pain at the incision site, which will be managed with prescribed medication.
  • Swelling and bruising: Swelling and bruising are expected, often peaking two to three days after surgery. Keeping your head elevated, even while sleeping, can help.
  • Fatigue: You will feel unusually tired and will need significant rest and daytime naps.
  • Head dressing: A dressing may be in place and can typically be removed after the first week.
Week 2: Initial recovery at home
  • Stitches or staples: These are often removed 7 to 10 days after surgery during a follow-up appointment.
  • Swelling reduction: Bruising and swelling will begin to subside significantly.
  • Fatigue: You may still feel tired and should continue to take naps and avoid overexertion.
  • Incision care: Follow your surgeon's instructions for washing the incision site and when you can begin washing your hair.
  • Activity: You can start taking short walks to aid circulation. Avoid any strenuous activity, heavy lifting, or bending.
Weeks 3 and 4: Gradual return to routine
  • Activity level: You can slowly increase your walking duration and gradually introduce light, low-impact activities.
  • Swelling: While most noticeable swelling is gone, some residual swelling can take longer to disappear completely.
  • Diet: By this point, you should be able to resume your normal diet.
  • Driving: Depending on your recovery, your doctor may clear you to drive. For cosmetic implants, some surgeons permit driving sooner than for reconstructive cases.
  • Work: You may be able to return to work, though a lighter schedule is recommended, as fatigue can persist.
Weeks 5 and 6: Increasing activity and energy
  • Physical activity: You can typically begin to resume more vigorous exercises, including light cardio and lifting objects up to 10-20 pounds. Avoid high-impact or contact sports.
  • Energy: Your energy levels should steadily increase, but fatigue can still occur if you push yourself too hard.
  • Follow-up: Another follow-up appointment with your surgeon is common around the six-week mark.
Months 2 and 3: Ongoing recovery and final results
  • Full activity: After two or three months, most patients can return to all normal activities, including more strenuous exercises.
  • Final appearance: The implant will have settled, and any remaining swelling should be gone, revealing the final contour.
  • Residual effects: Some numbness around the incision may still be present but will likely continue to improve
Done by AI as I can’t find any anecdotes or from sources so it might not be accurate

Complication rate

15-30%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 2

Complication rate 3

Cost 1

Overall 3

Intro

Wraparound facial implants are custom-designed, biocompatible implants that wrap around the entire lower jawline and chin

Benefits

Can change the jaw, and chin


Negatives

Infection, pain, nerve damage etc

Implant migration

Extrusion

Hematoma & Seroma


Cost

£13,000 to £20,000.

Recovery

Expected recovery

“I will sum up the custom jawline implant recovery process, which is largely related to facial swelling, by this phrase…‘There will be more swelling that you can imagine and it will take longer to go away that you ever want’. If you embrace this concept then you will be well prepared for the surgery. To put specifics to it, 50% of the swelling goes down by 10 days, 66% to 75% by three weeks and 90% to 95% by 6 weeks after surgery. I do not judge, nor do I ever do any revisions, until the final result is truly seen three months after the surgery when all swelling, tissue shrinkage and psychological adaptation to the new look has occurred. Most patients will feel comfortable going out in public somewhere between 10 to 14 days after surgery.

The most common complication after a custom jawline implant is the inability of some patients to tolerate the necessary recovery process. They can feel it is ‘too big’ and want to rush to an early revision. (downsizing or removal) While this does not happen to all patients it probably occurs in about 25% of them and can pose a stressful recovery process for both surgeon and patient.”


Complication rate

Around 10%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 2

Complication rate 5

Cost 2

Overall 6

Intro

skin bunches), and "banding" (vertical lines). The procedure involves small incisions under the chin and behind the ears, muscle tightening (platysmaplasty), and sometimes liposuction to remove fat

Benefits

addressing signs of aging and weight loss such as sagging skin, wrinkles, and loose muscles


Negatives

Infection, pain, bleeding etc

Hematomas

Numbness

Scarring


Cost

£5,000 to £10,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

If you’re looking for an anecdote I’d recommend looking at this https://www.vadoplasticsurgery.com/blog/neck-lift-surgery-at-hz-plastic-surgery/

Complication rate

less than 2%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 6

Complication rate 5

Cost 5

Overall 5

Intro

a surgical procedure to restore lost volume in sunken upper eyelids by transferring the patient's own fat from one area of the body to the eyelid

Benefits

Reduce UEE and increases narrowness of eyes


Negatives

Bruising and Swelling

Temporary Numbness

Lumps or Skin Irregularities

Fat Necrosis


Cost

£1,000-£7,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“you’ll have perma UEE for like 3-5 weeks don’t stress like I did lol.

If you have the money, add PRP for increased graft survival rate, costs 15k baht.

Oh and imo 2 options when it comes to donor area; belly - hurts for a good week post op - incredibly tender but zero scarring as he hides it in belly button.

Lower back - doesn’t hurt really at all, but very obvious and visible scarring, any and all scarring is easily avoidable with GHK-Cu, just pin it in belly daily post op - I didn’t do this, but it is effective.

Also if you get bad scarring, you can always dermastamp + GHK-Cu a few months post op.

One of the most important things - wear the compression suit, I only wore mine for 2 weeks, huge mistake, the fat in the donor area is all “loose” post op, so if you don’t wear it, it will essentially pool into one or two areas, for me, I now have a legit chunk of fat below my belly button in like a soft rectangle shape jfl, nothing that aqualyx + Lipolab can’t fix though (also from back it all fell to my love handles).

Make sure you don’t squint for like 4 months post op (wear sunglasses), also no gym, no running, eat a fuck load of fatty food etc. try not to indulge too much on salt as it’ll make the swelling more severe.

Unless you’re ethnic, highly recommended getting a fuck load in your lips, major halo”

Anecdote from @SteveRogers

Complication rate

Around 2.5%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 7

Complication rate 8

Cost 7

Overall 7

Intro

a surgical procedure where fat is harvested from your own body and injected into the under-eye area

Benefits

Improves undereye area as well as hollowness and dark circles


Negatives

Poor fat survival

Lumps and irregularities

Bleeding, scarring, pain etc



Cost

£3,000-£10,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“First Day

Immediately after your procedure, you can expect swelling and bruising around the treated areas. The best way to support healing is to get plenty of rest. Follow our instructions on caring for your incision and injection sites and manage discomfort with prescribed medications.

Days 2-3

During the first couple of days, expect noticeable swelling and bruising, which is a normal part of the healing process. Keep your head elevated as much as possible to reduce swelling. You might feel some discomfort, which you can manage with pain relief medication and cold compresses. Continue to avoid any physical exertion and focus on resting, but take brief walks around your home to boost blood circulation.

Days 4-5

You’ll start to see gradual improvement as swelling and bruising begin subsiding, and you may notice a gradual improvement in your mood. It’s essential to maintain your aftercare routine, including keeping the treated areas clean and following specific care instructions. Continue light activities, such as walking, but avoid anything too strenuous.

Days 6-7

As you approach the end of the first week, you should see more noticeable changes in your swelling and bruising. The initial discomfort should decrease significantly, and you may begin to feel more like yourself. You may start to resume normal activities but avoid any heavy lifting or intense exercise.

Days 8-10

Your new facial contours become more apparent. Protect your face from sun exposure and avoid activities that might put pressure on the treated areas.

Days 11-14

Most patients can return to their normal daily routine after 2 weeks, with most visible signs of surgery having faded. Any residual swelling may remain present but will continue diminishing over the coming weeks. You can gradually reintroduce more rigorous activities but should still be cautious and listen to your body’s signals. By the second week, most patients feel comfortable going out in public with a little makeup to camouflage residual swelling or bruising.”


Complication rate

Around 2%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 7

Complication rate 6

Cost 6

Overall 6

Intro

a surgical procedure where fat is harvested from your own body and injected into your penis 😂

Benefits

Increase girth and length


Negatives

Scarring, nerve damage, pain etc

Loss of sensation

Erectile Dysfunction


Cost

£3,000-£9,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“Patients should expect a two to four week recovery period. Many patients can return to sedentary work and light activities after a few days of rest. Follow-up appointments with Dr. Emer will allow him to assess your healing and provide guidelines for gradually increasing activity levels. In general, expect to need a week or two of healing before resuming sexual activity. You will also need to avoid strenuous lifting and intense exercise for four weeks”


Complication rate

25-50%


Results

average penis girth increase of about 1.5 to 2.5 cm and a 2.3 to 2.65 cm increase in length


Conclusion

Effectiveness 5

Ease of getting 4

Complication rate 1

Cost 5

Overall 3
 

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Intro

a surgical procedure where fat is harvested from your own body and injected into your lips

Benefits

Bigger fuller lips, and sometimes a perceived lower philtrum


Negatives

Bruising, swelling, pain etc

Over correction so it looks uncanny


Cost

£3,000 to £8,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

For recovery anecdote look at this https://www.drphilipyoung.com/diaries/lip-augmentation-fat-transfer-healing-image-diary/

Complication rate

2%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 8

Cost 7

Overall 7

Intro

A surgery which repositions your eye sockets

Benefits

Can reduce or increase eye spacing and IPD


Negatives

Infection, bleeding, pain etc

Cerebrospinal Fluid (CSF) Leakage

Epilepsy

Drooping nasal tip


Cost

£20,000-£30,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“Most patients are in the hospital 10-14 days after a box osteotomy. There is swelling, which gets better after two weeks. Patients should stay on soft food for 6 weeks.”


Complication rate

Mortality rate is around 1%

Complication rate is 25%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 1

Complication rate 4

Cost 1

Overall 5

Intro

Surgeons cut the bone, insert a device, and over several months, the device slowly pulls the bone ends apart, filling the gap with new bone tissue

Benefits

Great height increase

Negatives

Infections, pain, nerve damage etc

Blood Clots

Device Complications

Bone Healing Problems

Joint and muscle issues


Cost

£30,000-£150,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

Read this for expectations on recovery https://www.limblength.org/conditions/short-stature/

Complication rate

Around 30%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 10

Ease of getting 1

Complication rate 4

Cost 1

Overall 6

Intro

The procedure involves cutting the clavicle and then using a combination of internal fixation or an external fixations for more extensive lengthening

Benefits

Increases clavicle length


Negatives

Neurovascular Injury

Bone Healing Complications

Soft Tissue and Joint Issues

Infection, pain, nerve damage etc


Cost

£20,000-£50,000

Recovery

Expected recovery
  • Hospital Stay for Surgeries: Each surgery requires a hospital stay of 2-3 days. This means a total of 4-6 days in the hospital for both the initial and second surgeries.
  • Total Stay at Facility: Including both surgeries and the initial recovery period, patients typically stay at the medical facility for 2 to 2.5 months.
  • Bone Healing: Full bone consolidation continues over the next 6-7 months as the bones fully heal and consolidate.
  • Plate Removal: Once the bones have fully healed, the titanium plates can be removed in a minor surgical procedure.
  • Full Recovery: Most patients achieve complete recovery within 6-9 months, after which they can gradually return to normal activities, including lifting heavier objects.


Complication rate

Around 20%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 3

Ease of getting 1

Complication rate 3

Cost 2

Overall 2

Intro

a surgical procedure that alters and reshapes the canthal tendon at the outer corner of the eye

Benefits

Increases Canthial tilt


Negatives

Bruising, Pain, Swelling, etc

Temporary Vision Changes

Scarring

Eye muscle injury

Optical Nerve damage


Cost

£2,500 to £6,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“Most sutures should be out within 3 or 4 days, allowing you to apply some camouflage makeup the next day. You will continue to have some swelling for a month or so and the bruising will take a couple weeks to totally resolve. However all this is easily disguised. the scar will also remain slightly red for at least a month or 2. This also can be easily hidden”


Complication rate

1%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 7

Cost 7

Overall 8

Intro

The operation involves reshaping the underlying cartilage and bone and can increase, decrease, or alter specific features of the nose, such as the bridge or tip

Benefits

Can change the nose to your liking

Negatives

Breathing Difficulties

Nerve damage, pain swelling etc

Septal Perforation


Cost

£4,000 to £7,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“It takes a year for final results, but it's like 80-90% there by 2 months. I had a revision with rib graft, which is the slowest healing rhino. I'm also 40. And it was pretty much normal by 2-3 months. When I say normal, I mean normal looking. My nose nip is still stiff, but it might be like that forever. My consultation was 3 days before my surgery.”

Anecdote from @longjohnmong

Complication rate

5-15%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 6

Cost 6

Overall 7

Intro

It’s laser depigmentation that lightens the eye color

Benefits

Could change eye color/ lighten eye color


Negatives

Vision Impairment or Loss

Corneal Complications

Infection

Light Sensitivity and Glare


Cost

$1,600 USD for a 3-session treatment in Mexico

Recovery

Expected recovery

involves a rapid initial healing where most people see clearly after 24-48 hours

Complication rate

Under 1%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 1

Cost 3

Overall 3

Intro

Technically filler isn’t surgery but I’m adding it anyway. It’s a non surgical substance that can enhance specific features

Benefits

Can improve your jaw, cheekbones, nose, lips, browridge, philtrum

Negatives

Overfilling

Fades over time

Migration

Looks uncanny


Cost

£100-£600

Recovery

Expected recovery

“Lips will still be swollen Monday. I did the same thing with the Friday appointment. Not so swollen that you can’t leave the house but for me swollen enough that I could see my boss looking at them and he kept messing with his own lips -a giveaway that they think something looks off. Lol.

Yup, just half. I also did a full syringe in my chin because they say it often looks more balanced when doing the lips. The chin was nothing compared to the lips!! No pain and just a tiny bruise where the needle went in. I wasn’t expecting the amount of pain a day later with the lips. I don’t think people talk about it or maybe it doesn’t happen to everyone? I was icing them like crazy to help with the swelling and pain.”

Anecdote from Reddit


Complication rate

Under 1%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 10

Complication rate 7

Cost 8

Overall 8

Intro

Again probably not a surgery but I’m adding it anyway. Botox is a neurotoxin which temporarily relaxes a muscle.

Benefits

Can reduce UEE, get a better nose, better lips, better jaw

Negatives

Headache, flu like symptoms

Pain, swelling etc

Spread of Toxin


Cost

£100-£400

Recovery

Expected recovery

“I took no time off. Slow swallow was frustrating days 4-11. No other side effects apart from mild sore throat days 1-2. Throat was completely back to normal after 3 weeks with the added benefit of burping”

Anecdote from Reddit


Complication rate

Around 16% but only 2% had serious symptoms


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting

Complication rate

Cost

Overall

Intro

It involves making an incision at the corners of the mouth to widen the lip

Benefits

Increases lip width


Negatives

Scarring


Cost

£2,000-£4,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

While initial healing and return to some daily activities like returning to work may occur within one to three weeks, full recovery can take several months, as residual swelling subsides and the jawbone fully stabilizes

Complication rate

More than 40%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 3

Ease of getting 4

Complication rate 4

Cost 5

Overall 4

Intro

a surgical procedure that involves moving hair follicles from one part of the body to the scalp

Benefits

Improves hairline drastically


Negatives

Infection, bleeding, pain etc

Scarring


Cost

From £2,000-£10,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“About a week for swelling to go down.

2 weeks for scabs to go.

About 3-4 months for redness to fade in recipient area. Also hairs usually start to grow back by this time to help hide it/look more normal!”

from Reddit


Complication rate

Less than 5%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 8

Cost 5

Overall 7

Intro

a surgical procedure that involves moving hair follicles from one part of the body to the eyebrows

Benefits

Improves eyebrows shape, density, darkness


Negatives

Unnatural Appearance

Poor Growth or Failure

Scarring, bleeding, infection etc


Cost

£200-£5,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“I had it done in Turkey in September last year. My eyebrows were thin and even when I tried to grow em out, my right eyebrow's corner arch would not grow at all. I always had to pencil it in. I am so happy with my results! My procedure was super cheap ($200 AUD). They shaved off a patch of hair grafts from my scalp- this was so not an issue, because no one could see my bald patch. The only pain I felt were from the anaesthetic needles in my scalp and eyebrows. The shave was not so painful but I could feel a very slight mild burning sensation. It was not too intense, and very bearable. The doctor then placed the hair grafts onto my eyebrows. After the procedure, I had swollen eyes for 3 days. It felt like a muscle pain. 3-4 days later, the clinic told me to start cleansing my eyebrows. This had to be done in an extremely gentle way, so my hair grafts on my eyebrows would not move. There was some flaking and it felt abit itchy, and I did my best to avoid itching and touching my scabs. I also had to shower carefully. I would put my hair back and run it against the water. I tried to not have the water run down my face, but it would occasionally trickle down. After day 10, all the flaking and scabing came off and I was able to wash my hair normally. The hair grafts would fall off in due time, and new hair started to appear 3 months later. My hair on my scalp was already fine, so it suited my eyebrows. The new eyebrow hairs use to grow in all sorts of directions, but now after 6 months these hairs grow in the same direction as my other brows. It does grow really fast, and I usually trim them every 2 weeks. It's not too difficult to groom them. I dont use eyebrow pencils anymore, because I dont need it at all. I also get a lot of compliments for my awesome brows 😁

When I was getting it done, I told the doctor to not over do the eyebrow hairs and to only focus on the sparse areas. I think she only used 100 grafts. Initially my eyebrows looked out of shape, because I was not allowed to wax my brows for the first month. They said I can pluck my previous eyebrow hairs, and I was only allowed to trim my grafts. The clinic also said that I can start threading and waxing 8 months after my procedure. However, I started plucking the grafts around month 3. I dont like the brooke shields look- it does not suit my face. I got my brows waxed around month 4. This did not affect my new grafts and I do not see any loss in hair.”

Anecdote from Reddit


Complication rate

5-10%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 7

Complication rate 8

Cost 6

Overall 7

Intro

Technically this isnt a surgery but I’m still adding it anyway

a semi-permanent cosmetic procedure that uses a perming solution to curl and uplift natural eyelashes from the root

Benefits

Improved lash size and shape


Negatives

It’s only semi permanent so you have to get it done every 2 months or so

Eyes irration


Cost

£30 to £55

Recovery

Expected recovery

No recovery is needed

Complication rate

<1%

Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 6

Complication rate 10

Cost 10

Overall 8

Intro

a surgical procedure that involves moving hair follicles from one part of the body to the beard

Benefits

Improved beard shape and density


Negatives

Infection, nerve damage, pain etc

Cysts

Skin necrosis


Cost

£1,000-£8,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

I’d recommend looking at this if you’re interested https://www.kslclinic.co.uk/beard-transplant-growth-recovery-timeline-and-aftercare/

Complication rate

Less than 1%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 4

Ease of getting 7

Complication rate 8

Cost 6

Overall 5

Intro

The procedure involves splitting the lower jawbone into two parts, moving them and then reattaching them

Benefits

Repositions the lower jaw to your desired position


Negatives

Bruising, swelling, pain etc

Sore throat and nasal congestion

TMJ problems

Temporary hearing change


Cost

£17,500-£30,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“This will usually require at least four weeks of being off work or school as well as limiting certain activities such as strenuous exercise during that period. After this initial period of rest, patients may begin a course of physical therapy exercises which focus on stretching, strengthening, and restoring range of motion in the area operated upon”


Complication rate

Around 30%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 6

Cost 3

Overall 7

Intro

Upper blepharoplasty is a surgical procedure that involves removing excess skin, muscle, and sometimes fat from the upper eyelids

Benefits

Reduces UEE (isn’t really a benefit though)


Negatives

Reduces UEE

Infection, bleeding, scarring etc

Difficulty Closing the Eyes

Corneal Damage


Cost

£2,000-£5,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“Your eyelid may be swollen and bruised for 1 to 3 weeks after surgery. The appearance of your eye may continue to get better for 1 to 3 months. Most people feel ready to go out in public and back to work in about 10 to 14 days. This may depend on your job and how you feel about people knowing about your surgery”


Complication rate

Around 3%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 3

Ease of getting 9

Complication rate 8

Cost 8

Overall 4/6 (if Asian)

Intro

is a surgical procedure that removes excess skin, fat, and sometimes muscle from the lower eyelids

Benefits

Improved sclera show, improved eyebages


Negatives

Bruising, Swelling, scarring etc

Temporary Vision Issues

Excessive Fat Removal

Ectropion


Cost

£2,500-£7,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“WEEK ONE

During the first week, you may still experience some residual swelling, but it should gradually improve. Bruising will also be present during this week.

You might be able to return to light daily activities, but avoid anything that could strain your eyes or cause dryness. Attend your follow-up appointment with your surgeon to monitor progress. Usually, after about a week, sutures can be removed, and you can return to work.

WEEKS 2-3

By this stage, most patients are back at work and have observed significant improvements in swelling and bruising. You may feel more comfortable resuming additional daily activities and light exercise, which can help increase blood flow. Still, as with any cosmetic surgery recovery, avoid activities that could risk injury to your healing eyelids.

WEEKS 4-5

Around the fourth and fifth weeks, you will likely notice more substantial improvements in the appearance of your upper eyelids if you’ve had upper blepharoplasty and in your lower eyelid skin if you’ve had lower eyelid surgery.

The majority of the swelling should have subsided, and your final results will start to become apparent. Most patients can go back to a normal exercise regimen around four weeks after surgery.

WEEK 6 AND BEYOND

At this point, your lower or upper eyelid surgery recovery should be mostly complete. However, remember that individual healing rates vary. It’s essential to continue following your surgeon’s advice, wear sunscreen to protect your delicate eye skin, and avoid excess sun exposure”


Complication rate

3-4%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 7

Cost 7

Overall 7

Intro

A surgical procedure that involves removing bone from the eye socket walls and sometimes orbital fat to relieve pressure on the eye

Benefits

More deep set eyes


Negatives

Swelling, bruising, pain etc

Double Vision

Tear Duct Damage

Cross eyes

CSF Leak

Loss of vision


Cost

£10,000-£20,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“My pain levels changed as the days/weeks went on. I have very high pain tolerance, but this pain was different. It had roots, deep in my skull. Prescription pain killers helped ease this, and I was able to switch to over-the-counter medication fairly quickly.

The side of my face was numb for a week or so. As the numbness decreased, the nerves began to fire up, and it was the weirdest feeling. It felt like an eye twitch with a little electricity. I also began to get headaches that seemed to stem from deep inside my head. I am somewhat prone to headaches for a variety of reasons, so perhaps it was a combination of multiple factors. In any case, plenty of rest was needed.

Everyday tasks were challenging because it was simply difficult to look around. My eye had a limited range of motion (look too far in one direction - ouch!). Looking down was also tricky. This meant that going for walks by myself would potentially be dangerous. If a car made a sharp turn and was headed my way, I would not be able to turn my head/gaze fast enough. My husband helped me with little tasks and escorted me on short walks.

Perhaps the most painful thing - I was instructed to use a saline nasal spray several times a day. It was like pouring salt on a wound. I tried to soothe the pain with lozenges and ice cream, but they only helped so much. It just took time for my nasal passages to heal.”


Complication rate

Severe complications are under 1%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 2

Complication rate 3

Cost 2

Overall 5

Intro

a cosmetic surgical procedure to reduce excess fat in the lower cheeks

Benefits

Reduces cheek fat


Negatives

Hollowing and Premature Aging

Bleeding, pain, infections etc

Salivary Gland/Duct Injury


Cost

£2,000-£5,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

If you’re wondering what to expect for recovery I’d recommend reading thishttps://drkirklozada.com/blog/first-week-recovery-after-buccal-fat-removal

Complication rate

Around 10%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 9

Complication rate 7

Cost 8

Overall 7

Intro

cosmetic surgical procedure to remove unwanted, stubborn fat deposits from specific body areas

Benefits

Reduces flabby skin/ fat


Negatives

Bruising, Pain, Swelling etc

Fluid Drainage

Blood Clots

Internal damage


Cost

£3,000-£7,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

If you’re interested about the recovery I’d recommend reading this https://drali.com/troy-mi-best-liposuction/

Complication rate

Around 1-2%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 5

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 7

Cost 8

Overall 6

Intro

a cosmetic surgical procedure that removes excess skin and fat from the abdomen

Benefits

Improves abs and flabby skin


Negatives

Scarring

Pain, bleeding, swelling etc

Difficulty Standing Up Straight


Cost

£5,000-£10,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“You will need to take about 4 to 6 weeks off work and exercise. You will not be able to drive for a few weeks after the operation (your surgeon and insurance company can advise you about this).

It takes about 6 weeks to fully recover and to see the full effect of a tummy tuck.

You'll usually need to wear a special type of corset or tummy-control pants for 6 weeks, to encourage your skin to heal properly and to reduce any swelling. Generally, you'll need to take it easy during this time and keep your knees bent while in bed, to avoid putting strain on your stitches.

After a few weeks you will probably be asked to attend a follow-up appointment to make sure the wound is healing properly.

After 6 weeks you will usually be able to stop wearing a corset and may return to doing most of your usually activities.”


Complication rate

2%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 5

Complication rate 5

Cost 5

Overall 5

Intro

The most common surgical method involves an incision in the neck to modify the thyroid cartilage and vocal cords to achieve the desired deeper voice

Benefits

Deeper voice


Negatives

Reduced Volume

Hoarseness or Strain

Irreversible Results

Pain, bleeding, infection etc


Cost

£5,000-£12,500

Recovery

Expected recovery

“Recovery time following voice deepening surgery typically takes 2 weeks or more, depending on the individual patient. During the initial recovery period, patients must observe voice rest to allow proper healing of the vocal cords”


Complication rate

10%


Results

the average pitch dropped from 156 Hz to 108.77 Hz


Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 5

Cost 4

Overall 5

Intro

Small incisions are made within the natural creases of the nostrils to hide scarring. Small, precise wedges of tissue are removed from the alar base

Benefits

Reduces nose width specifically


Negatives

Swelling, bruising, pain etc

Scarring

Pigmentary Changes


Cost

£1,500 to £7,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

If you’re wondering what to expect I’d recommend reading this Alarplasty Sydney - Nostril Reduction Surgery - Dr Hunt

Complication rate

1% to 3%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness

Ease of getting

Complication rate

Cost

Overall

Intro

combined surgical and orthodontic procedure used to correct a narrow upper jaw

Benefits

Increases palate width, lip width


Negatives

Pain, swelling, and bruising

Gap between front teeth

Speech difficulties (lisp)(while wearing the appliance)

Nasal congestion or bleeding


Cost

£7,000-£15,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

If you’re wondering what to do I’d recommend reading this https://www.massgeneral.org/children/oral-and-maxillofacial-surgery/sarpe-same-surgery-aftercare

Complication rate

Around 10%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 6

Cost 3

Overall 6
 
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Intro

During the operation, incisions are made along the hairline and around the ears, excess skin is removed, underlying muscles are tightened, and fat may be redistributed or added to achieve desired results

Benefits

More youthful appearance


Negatives

“Pixie ears”

Displaced or altered hairlines/sideburns

Visible or poor scarring

Infection, nerve damage, swelling etc


Cost

between £3,000 and £30,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“My surgery and recovery were seamless—everything really went well. I had my facelift done under local anesthesia, a cocktail of pills that made me sleepy plus numbing shots that I don’t even recall getting. I was initially worried that I’d feel tugging or pulling, but I never felt anything. I was awake and talking to the doctor for some of the surgery but definitely dozed off for the majority of the time. I remember the doctor telling me what he was doing. We chatted about Instagram and the two Real Housewives of New Jersey he had also performed facelifts on. I remember him telling me when I was almost done.

After the procedure, I was pretty alert. I had no real pain—just tenderness and some swelling and bruising in my neck and upper cheeks. The head wrap I had to wear was tight—that was probably the most annoying part. My husband says I slept a lot the remainder of the afternoon and the night after surgery. I took my pain medicine for the first two to three days, as a preventive measure.

I was able to be up on my own almost right away. I was careful and slow but didn’t require much assistance. I went out in public the day after surgery—I was swollen but overall felt good. By day three, I was socializing with my family. It was winter, so I wore a hat and was able to cover bruising—I really did not look bad—and I kept getting compliments on how supple my skin looked. I was puffy, but my skin looked really, really good.

Now, eight months out, I still have some numbness, but it’s getting better each day”


Complication rate

2%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 6

Complication rate 6

Cost 3

Overall 6

Intro

cosmetic procedure to remove excess breast tissue and fat in men to achieve a more masculine chest contour

Benefits

Gets rid of gyno

Negatives

Bleeding, infection, nerve damage etc

Seromas

Nipple Necrosis


Cost

£2,000-£7,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“I just got it done 6 days ago, after 3 days almost zero pain. Didn’t need pain killers, I was going on short walks after 2 days. I took a two hour train home 6 hours after waking up from op. The recovery for grade 1/2 really not that bad. I will says it’s not nothing… a few days of discomfort and a month of no gym and wearing an annoying vest…”

Anecdote from



Complication rate

Around 5%

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39652398/#:~:text=We collected demographic and clinical,gynecomastia; liposuction; surgical techniques.

Results

View attachment 4153510

Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 8

Cost 7

Overall 7

Intro

involving cutting, moving, and fixing the chin bone in a new position with screws and plates

Benefits

Increased chin width, projection and height


Negatives

Pain, Bleeding, Swelling etc

Poor Wound Healing or Scarring

Tooth Root Damage


Cost

£3,000-£10,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“For someone with a low pain threshold, it hasn’t been bad. I was terrified going into theatre and the surgeon was very reassuring, “it won’t be bad, I usually do this as an add-on with bimax surgery.” I’m now day 3 post op. The pain has mostly been from the swelling, a throbbing sensation and some jaw aching. However, all completely manageable with NSAIDs, paracetamol and tapentadol as required. Tapentadol is a strong pain killer for mod-severe pain. I took it for the first two days but have cut down today. I can tell the swelling will take a long time to go down, it seems to be at its peak today.

It’s comforting to read other people’s stories. Even though everyone can be so different. I’m on day 5 post op. And my chin feels huge from the front and also makes my face look longer. I already had a long face. From the side profile, even though I’m swollen, I’m actually happy with it. It’s the front view is killing me..which I didn’t think I was going to have any issue with. I’m trying to be calm and trust the process. Numbers in my bottom lip and chin is insane. It’s so weird to take, eat, and smile! Which is also killing me. I also feel like I have a ball in my neck but it’s bigger on one side than the other and that concerns me a little.

I’m at about 3.5 months now. And it’s a major difference. My surgeon did tell me at my last follow up there is still some residual swelling and the chin will continue to “refine.” I’m still trying to be patient for final results but I’ve come a long way since that first week! The front view was what killed me too so you have to be very patient. Talking completely normal took a couple weeks but I remember my family telling me I sounded fine after 2 weeks. You’re just more aware of it. It’s crazy but even as swelling goes down you will start to adjust to your “new face” but it does take a while. I definitely had moments where I thought I made a mistake. But I’m happy now and I truly believe that by 6-9 months I’ll be even happier.”

Anecdote from Reddit


Complication rate

About 5%


Results

View attachment 4153515

Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 5

Complication rate 5

Cost 5

Overall 7

Intro

This is technically not a surgery but I’m including it anyway

This powerful treatment removes deeper layers of skin, stimulating new collagen formation and resulting in significant skin smoothing and rejuvenation

Benefits

Removes almost all wrinkles, and increases collagen drastically


Negatives

Redness, Swelling, and Crusting

Skin Color Changes

Infection

Scarring

Organ damage

Cardiac toxicity


Cost

between £1,500 to over £4,500

Recovery

Expected recovery

“For the vast majority the patients, the peeling process is complete by 10 days. After this time, makeup can be applied to the face without any issues.

The facial skin will be pink at first but settles over the next 6-8 weeks.”


Complication rate

around 5%


Results

View attachment 4153537

Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 4

Cost 5

Overall 7

Intro

It is most commonly performed to pin back prominent ears that stick out from the head, making them sit closer to the skull. The surgery involves making incisions to reposition, reshape, and secure the ear cartilage with stitches, often on the back of the ear

Benefits

Reduces ear prominence


Negatives

Pain, bruising, swelling etc

https://111.wales.nhs.uk/encyclopaedia/e/article/earreshaping#:~:text=Side effects,ears for about 2 weeks

Scars

https://111.wales.nhs.uk/encyclopaedia/e/article/earreshaping#:~:text=Side effects,ears for about 2 weeks

Only lasts 5-10 years


Cost

£1,500 to £6,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

If you want information on recovery I’d recommend reading https://drjosebarrera.com/what-to-expect-during-recovery-from-otoplasty-surgery/

Complication rate

Around 5-10%


Results

View attachment 4153554

Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 8

Cost 7

Overall 8

Intro

a surgical procedure that corrects or removes epicanthal folds at the inner corner of the eye

Benefits

Improves Canthial tilt, pfl, eye spacing and eye width to height


Negatives

Scarring

Pain, infection, bleeding etc


Cost

£1,000 to £3,500

Recovery

Expected recovery

worsening swelling and bruising for the first 2-3 days, with peak discomfort around day 3. You can expect stitches to be removed within the first week. While you can return to work around days 10-14, significant swelling and bruising can last 2-3 weeks, with final results becoming visible within 1-3 months

Complication rate

Around 5%


Results

View attachment 4153579

Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 7

Complication rate 7

Cost 6

Overall 8

Intro

Again not actually classed as a surgery but I’m adding it anyway.

Skin lightening surgeries is a broad term for medical procedures that lighten skin by targeting pigment, with common methods including laser treatments, strong chemical peels, and dermabrasion, which remove or break down melanin

Benefits

Lightens skin tone


Negatives

Ochronosis

Increased sun sensitivity

Higher risk of skin cancer


Cost

£100-£2,000

Recovery

Expected recovery
  • Initial recovery: Most patients experience redness, swelling, and a sensation similar to a mild sunburn for a few days. For more intense ablative lasers, the skin may be raw, ooze, and form a crust, which should not be picked.
  • Healing time: Healing depends on the laser intensity. For ablative lasers, it can take 10 to 21 days for the area to heal. For non-ablative lasers, downtime is minimal, often lasting only a day or two.
Complication rate

About 20%


Results

View attachment 4153586

Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 4

Cost 9

Overall 7

Intro

An incision is made within the natural hairline, a strip of forehead skin is removed, and the scalp is advanced forward to the new, lower position

Benefits

Shortens the forehead


Negatives

Infection, bleeding, pain etc

Scarring


Cost

From £5,000-£15,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“However, you need to stay close to the clinic for at least a week while the stiches are healing, meaning you need to factor a long hotel stay into the price if you're traveling for the surgery. How well the scar heals will depend from person to person but should be presentable within 4-6 months”

Anecdote from @LiterallyNightwing

Complication rate

Under 1%


Results

View attachment 4153598

Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 5

Complication rate 6

Cost 4

Overall 6



LeFort I — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 4/10; Complication rate (safety): 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 6/10

LeFort II — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 5/10

LeFort III — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 6/10

Bimax — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 6/10

CCW bimax — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 5/10

Trimax — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 5/10

Cheekbone implants (malar implants) — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Jaw implants (general mandibular body implants) — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Jaw angle implants — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Brow-ridge implants — Effectiveness: 5/10; Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 5/10

Chin implants — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Infraorbital implants — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 4/10; Overall: 6/10

Custom skull implants — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 3/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 3/10

Wraparound implants (craniofacial wrap implants) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 6/10

Neck lift— Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 6/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 5/10

Upper eyelid fat grafting — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Under-eye fat grafting — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

penile fat grafting / 'dick fat grafting' — Effectiveness: 5/10; Ease: 4/10; Complication rate: 1/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 3/10

Lip fat grafting — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

OBO (Orbital Box Osteotomy / box osteotomy) — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 5/10

Leg lengthening — Effectiveness: 10/10 (for increasing length); Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 6/10

Clavicle lengthening — Effectiveness: 3/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 3/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 2/10

Canthoplasty — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 8/10

Rhinoplasty — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 7/10

Eye color change (laser depigmentation) — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 1/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 3/10

Filler (dermal fillers) — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 10/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 8/10

Botox — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 10/10; Complication rate: 9/10; Cost: 9/10; Overall: 9/10

Mouth widening — Effectiveness: 3/10; Ease: 4/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 4/10

Hair transplant — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 7/10

Eyebrow transplant — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 7/10

Eyelash lift — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 6/10; Complication rate: 10/10; Cost: 10/10; Overall: 8/10

Beard transplant — Effectiveness: 4/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 5/10

BSSO (Bilateral sagittal split osteotomy) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 7/10

Upper blepharoplasty — Effectiveness: 3/10; Ease: 9/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 4/10 or 6/10 if you’re Asian

Lower blepharoplasty — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Orbital decompression — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 3/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 5/10

Buccal fat removal — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 9/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 7/10

Liposuction — Effectiveness: 5/10 (for contouring); Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Tummy tuck (abdominoplasty) — Effectiveness: 6/10 (contour/skin removal); Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 5/10

Voice deepening surgery — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 4/10; Overall: 5/10

Alar base reduction — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 8/10

SARPE (Surgically Assisted Rapid Palatal Expansion) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 6/10

Face lift (rhytidectomy) — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 6/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 6/10

Gynecomastia surgery — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Genioplasty —Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 7/10

Phenol peel (deep chemical peel) — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 7/10

Otoplasty (ear pinning) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 8/10

Medial epicanthoplasty — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 8/10

Skin lightening surgery — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 9/10; Overall: 7/10

Hairline lowering — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 4/10; Overall: 6/10

Conclusion of the conclusion (if you’re extremely lazy)

LeFort I — Overall: 6/10

LeFort II — Overall: 5/10

LeFort III — Overall: 6/10

Bimax — Overall: 6/10

CCW bimax — Overall: 5/10

Trimax — Overall: 5/10

Cheekbone implants — Overall: 6/10

Jaw implants — Overall: 6/10

Jaw angle implants — Overall: 6/10

Brow-ridge implants — Overall: 5/10

Chin implants — Overall: 7/10

Infraorbital implants — Overall: 6/10

Custom skull implants — Overall: 3/10

Wraparound implants — Overall: 6/10

Neck lift — Overall: 5/10

Upper eyelid fat grafting — Overall: 7/10

Under-eye fat grafting — Overall: 6/10

Penile fat grafting — Overall: 3/10

Lip fat grafting — Overall: 7/10

OBO — Overall: 5/10

Leg lengthening — Overall: 6/10

Clavicle lengthening — Overall: 2/10

Canthoplasty — Overall: 8/10

Rhinoplasty — Overall: 7/10

Eye color change — Overall: 3/10

Filler — Overall: 8/10

Botox — Overall: 9/10

Mouth widening — Overall: 4/10

Hair transplant — Overall: 7/10

Eyebrow transplant — Overall: 7/10

Eyelash lift — Overall: 8/10

Beard transplant — Overall: 5/10

BSSO — Overall: 7/10

Upper blepharoplasty — Overall: 4/10 (or 6/10 if Asian)

Lower blepharoplasty — Overall: 7/10

Orbital decompression — Overall: 5/10

Buccal fat removal — Overall: 7/10

Liposuction — Overall: 6/10

Tummy tuck — Overall: 5/10

Voice deepening surgery — Overall: 5/10

Alar base reduction — Overall: 8/10

SARPE — Overall: 6/10

Face lift — Overall: 6/10

Gynecomastia surgery — Overall: 7/10

Genioplasty — Overall: 7/10

Phenol peel — Overall: 7/10

Otoplasty — Overall: 8/10

Medial epicanthoplasty — Overall: 8/10

Skin lightening surgery — Overall: 7/10

Hairline lowering — Overall: 6/10
 
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Intro

During the operation, incisions are made along the hairline and around the ears, excess skin is removed, underlying muscles are tightened, and fat may be redistributed or added to achieve desired results

Benefits

More youthful appearance


Negatives

“Pixie ears”

Displaced or altered hairlines/sideburns

Visible or poor scarring

Infection, nerve damage, swelling etc


Cost

between £3,000 and £30,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“My surgery and recovery were seamless—everything really went well. I had my facelift done under local anesthesia, a cocktail of pills that made me sleepy plus numbing shots that I don’t even recall getting. I was initially worried that I’d feel tugging or pulling, but I never felt anything. I was awake and talking to the doctor for some of the surgery but definitely dozed off for the majority of the time. I remember the doctor telling me what he was doing. We chatted about Instagram and the two Real Housewives of New Jersey he had also performed facelifts on. I remember him telling me when I was almost done.

After the procedure, I was pretty alert. I had no real pain—just tenderness and some swelling and bruising in my neck and upper cheeks. The head wrap I had to wear was tight—that was probably the most annoying part. My husband says I slept a lot the remainder of the afternoon and the night after surgery. I took my pain medicine for the first two to three days, as a preventive measure.

I was able to be up on my own almost right away. I was careful and slow but didn’t require much assistance. I went out in public the day after surgery—I was swollen but overall felt good. By day three, I was socializing with my family. It was winter, so I wore a hat and was able to cover bruising—I really did not look bad—and I kept getting compliments on how supple my skin looked. I was puffy, but my skin looked really, really good.

Now, eight months out, I still have some numbness, but it’s getting better each day”


Complication rate

2%


Results

View attachment 4153496

Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 6

Complication rate 6

Cost 3

Overall 6

Intro

cosmetic procedure to remove excess breast tissue and fat in men to achieve a more masculine chest contour

Benefits

Gets rid of gyno

Negatives

Bleeding, infection, nerve damage etc

Seromas

Nipple Necrosis


Cost

£2,000-£7,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“I just got it done 6 days ago, after 3 days almost zero pain. Didn’t need pain killers, I was going on short walks after 2 days. I took a two hour train home 6 hours after waking up from op. The recovery for grade 1/2 really not that bad. I will says it’s not nothing… a few days of discomfort and a month of no gym and wearing an annoying vest…”

Anecdote from



Complication rate

Around 5%

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39652398/#:~:text=We collected demographic and clinical,gynecomastia; liposuction; surgical techniques.

Results

View attachment 4153510

Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 8

Cost 7

Overall 7

Intro

involving cutting, moving, and fixing the chin bone in a new position with screws and plates

Benefits

Increased chin width, projection and height


Negatives

Pain, Bleeding, Swelling etc

Poor Wound Healing or Scarring

Tooth Root Damage


Cost

£3,000-£10,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“For someone with a low pain threshold, it hasn’t been bad. I was terrified going into theatre and the surgeon was very reassuring, “it won’t be bad, I usually do this as an add-on with bimax surgery.” I’m now day 3 post op. The pain has mostly been from the swelling, a throbbing sensation and some jaw aching. However, all completely manageable with NSAIDs, paracetamol and tapentadol as required. Tapentadol is a strong pain killer for mod-severe pain. I took it for the first two days but have cut down today. I can tell the swelling will take a long time to go down, it seems to be at its peak today.

It’s comforting to read other people’s stories. Even though everyone can be so different. I’m on day 5 post op. And my chin feels huge from the front and also makes my face look longer. I already had a long face. From the side profile, even though I’m swollen, I’m actually happy with it. It’s the front view is killing me..which I didn’t think I was going to have any issue with. I’m trying to be calm and trust the process. Numbers in my bottom lip and chin is insane. It’s so weird to take, eat, and smile! Which is also killing me. I also feel like I have a ball in my neck but it’s bigger on one side than the other and that concerns me a little.

I’m at about 3.5 months now. And it’s a major difference. My surgeon did tell me at my last follow up there is still some residual swelling and the chin will continue to “refine.” I’m still trying to be patient for final results but I’ve come a long way since that first week! The front view was what killed me too so you have to be very patient. Talking completely normal took a couple weeks but I remember my family telling me I sounded fine after 2 weeks. You’re just more aware of it. It’s crazy but even as swelling goes down you will start to adjust to your “new face” but it does take a while. I definitely had moments where I thought I made a mistake. But I’m happy now and I truly believe that by 6-9 months I’ll be even happier.”

Anecdote from Reddit


Complication rate

About 5%


Results

View attachment 4153515

Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 5

Complication rate 5

Cost 5

Overall 7

Intro

This is technically not a surgery but I’m including it anyway

This powerful treatment removes deeper layers of skin, stimulating new collagen formation and resulting in significant skin smoothing and rejuvenation

Benefits

Removes almost all wrinkles, and increases collagen drastically


Negatives

Redness, Swelling, and Crusting

Skin Color Changes

Infection

Scarring

Organ damage

Cardiac toxicity


Cost

between £1,500 to over £4,500

Recovery

Expected recovery

“For the vast majority the patients, the peeling process is complete by 10 days. After this time, makeup can be applied to the face without any issues.

The facial skin will be pink at first but settles over the next 6-8 weeks.”


Complication rate

around 5%


Results

View attachment 4153537

Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 4

Cost 5

Overall 7

Intro

It is most commonly performed to pin back prominent ears that stick out from the head, making them sit closer to the skull. The surgery involves making incisions to reposition, reshape, and secure the ear cartilage with stitches, often on the back of the ear

Benefits

Reduces ear prominence


Negatives

Pain, bruising, swelling etc

https://111.wales.nhs.uk/encyclopaedia/e/article/earreshaping#:~:text=Side effects,ears for about 2 weeks

Scars

https://111.wales.nhs.uk/encyclopaedia/e/article/earreshaping#:~:text=Side effects,ears for about 2 weeks

Only lasts 5-10 years


Cost

£1,500 to £6,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

If you want information on recovery I’d recommend reading https://drjosebarrera.com/what-to-expect-during-recovery-from-otoplasty-surgery/

Complication rate

Around 5-10%


Results

View attachment 4153554

Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 8

Cost 7

Overall 8

Intro

a surgical procedure that corrects or removes epicanthal folds at the inner corner of the eye

Benefits

Improves Canthial tilt, pfl, eye spacing and eye width to height


Negatives

Scarring

Pain, infection, bleeding etc


Cost

£1,000 to £3,500

Recovery

Expected recovery

worsening swelling and bruising for the first 2-3 days, with peak discomfort around day 3. You can expect stitches to be removed within the first week. While you can return to work around days 10-14, significant swelling and bruising can last 2-3 weeks, with final results becoming visible within 1-3 months

Complication rate

Around 5%


Results

View attachment 4153579

Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 7

Complication rate 7

Cost 6

Overall 8

Intro

Again not actually classed as a surgery but I’m adding it anyway.

Skin lightening surgeries is a broad term for medical procedures that lighten skin by targeting pigment, with common methods including laser treatments, strong chemical peels, and dermabrasion, which remove or break down melanin

Benefits

Lightens skin tone


Negatives

Ochronosis

Increased sun sensitivity

Higher risk of skin cancer


Cost

£100-£2,000

Recovery

Expected recovery
  • Initial recovery: Most patients experience redness, swelling, and a sensation similar to a mild sunburn for a few days. For more intense ablative lasers, the skin may be raw, ooze, and form a crust, which should not be picked.
  • Healing time: Healing depends on the laser intensity. For ablative lasers, it can take 10 to 21 days for the area to heal. For non-ablative lasers, downtime is minimal, often lasting only a day or two.
Complication rate

About 20%


Results

View attachment 4153586

Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 4

Cost 9

Overall 7

Intro

An incision is made within the natural hairline, a strip of forehead skin is removed, and the scalp is advanced forward to the new, lower position

Benefits

Shortens the forehead


Negatives

Infection, bleeding, pain etc

Scarring


Cost

From £5,000-£15,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“However, you need to stay close to the clinic for at least a week while the stiches are healing, meaning you need to factor a long hotel stay into the price if you're traveling for the surgery. How well the scar heals will depend from person to person but should be presentable within 4-6 months”

Anecdote from @LiterallyNightwing

Complication rate

Under 1%


Results

View attachment 4153598

Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 5

Complication rate 6

Cost 4

Overall 6



LeFort I — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 4/10; Complication rate (safety): 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 6/10

LeFort II — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 5/10

LeFort III — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 6/10

Bimax — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 6/10

CCW bimax — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 5/10

Trimax — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 5/10

Cheekbone implants (malar implants) — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Jaw implants (general mandibular body implants) — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Jaw angle implants — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Brow-ridge implants — Effectiveness: 5/10; Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 5/10

Chin implants — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Infraorbital implants — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 4/10; Overall: 6/10

Custom skull implants — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 3/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 3/10

Wraparound implants (craniofacial wrap implants) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 6/10

Neck lift— Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 6/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 5/10

Upper eyelid fat grafting — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Under-eye fat grafting — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

penile fat grafting / 'dick fat grafting' — Effectiveness: 5/10; Ease: 4/10; Complication rate: 1/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 3/10

Lip fat grafting — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

OBO (Orbital Box Osteotomy / box osteotomy) — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 5/10

Leg lengthening — Effectiveness: 10/10 (for increasing length); Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 6/10

Clavicle lengthening — Effectiveness: 3/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 3/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 2/10

Canthoplasty — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 8/10

Rhinoplasty — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 7/10

Eye color change (laser depigmentation) — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 1/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 3/10

Filler (dermal fillers) — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 10/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 8/10

Botox — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 10/10; Complication rate: 9/10; Cost: 9/10; Overall: 9/10

Mouth widening — Effectiveness: 3/10; Ease: 4/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 4/10

Hair transplant — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 7/10

Eyebrow transplant — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 7/10

Eyelash lift — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 6/10; Complication rate: 10/10; Cost: 10/10; Overall: 8/10

Beard transplant — Effectiveness: 4/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 5/10

BSSO (Bilateral sagittal split osteotomy) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 7/10

Upper blepharoplasty — Effectiveness: 3/10; Ease: 9/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 4/10 or 6/10 if you’re Asian

Lower blepharoplasty — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Orbital decompression — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 3/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 5/10

Buccal fat removal — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 9/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 7/10

Liposuction — Effectiveness: 5/10 (for contouring); Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Tummy tuck (abdominoplasty) — Effectiveness: 6/10 (contour/skin removal); Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 5/10

Voice deepening surgery — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 4/10; Overall: 5/10

Alar base reduction — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 8/10

SARPE (Surgically Assisted Rapid Palatal Expansion) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 6/10

Face lift (rhytidectomy) — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 6/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 6/10

Gynecomastia surgery — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Genioplasty —Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 7/10

Phenol peel (deep chemical peel) — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 7/10

Otoplasty (ear pinning) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 8/10

Medial epicanthoplasty — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 8/10

Skin lightening surgery — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 9/10; Overall: 7/10

Hairline lowering — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 4/10; Overall: 6/10

Conclusion of the conclusion (if you’re extremely lazy)

LeFort I — Overall: 6/10

LeFort II — Overall: 5/10

LeFort III — Overall: 6/10

Bimax — Overall: 6/10

CCW bimax — Overall: 5/10

Trimax — Overall: 5/10

Cheekbone implants — Overall: 6/10

Jaw implants — Overall: 6/10

Jaw angle implants — Overall: 6/10

Brow-ridge implants — Overall: 5/10

Chin implants — Overall: 7/10

Infraorbital implants — Overall: 6/10

Custom skull implants — Overall: 3/10

Wraparound implants — Overall: 6/10

Neck lift — Overall: 5/10

Upper eyelid fat grafting — Overall: 7/10

Under-eye fat grafting — Overall: 6/10

Penile fat grafting — Overall: 3/10

Lip fat grafting — Overall: 7/10

OBO — Overall: 5/10

Leg lengthening — Overall: 6/10

Clavicle lengthening — Overall: 2/10

Canthoplasty — Overall: 8/10

Rhinoplasty — Overall: 7/10

Eye color change — Overall: 3/10

Filler — Overall: 8/10

Botox — Overall: 9/10

Mouth widening — Overall: 4/10

Hair transplant — Overall: 7/10

Eyebrow transplant — Overall: 7/10

Eyelash lift — Overall: 8/10

Beard transplant — Overall: 5/10

BSSO — Overall: 7/10

Upper blepharoplasty — Overall: 4/10 (or 6/10 if Asian)

Lower blepharoplasty — Overall: 7/10

Orbital decompression — Overall: 5/10

Buccal fat removal — Overall: 7/10

Liposuction — Overall: 6/10

Tummy tuck — Overall: 5/10

Voice deepening surgery — Overall: 5/10

Alar base reduction — Overall: 8/10

SARPE — Overall: 6/10

Face lift — Overall: 6/10

Gynecomastia surgery — Overall: 7/10

Genioplasty — Overall: 7/10

Phenol peel — Overall: 7/10

Otoplasty — Overall: 8/10

Medial epicanthoplasty — Overall: 8/10

Skin lightening surgery — Overall: 7/10

Hairline lowering — Overall: 6/10

Lefort 3 6/10 ????
The results do not match the risk and price imo.
 
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Lefort 3 6/10 ????
The results do not match the risk and price imo.
Fair enough i personally think they do if you see in the results section
 
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Fair enough i personally think they do if you see in the results section
It’s so risky and high price, of course the results will be insane too
 
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mirin
 
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DNR but Mirin Effort
 
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pinned it for ya. 😘
 
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Kind of sad that a lot of this text is AI generated, but the thread is good overall.

I always said this, but AI usage shouldn't be discouraged if it's used to make a helpful and overally good thread.

All i can hope for is that OP proof read what the AI generated so there isn't hurtful (missleading) information. Other than that, mirin the effort :Comfy:

pinned it for ya. 😘
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Intro

During the operation, incisions are made along the hairline and around the ears, excess skin is removed, underlying muscles are tightened, and fat may be redistributed or added to achieve desired results

Benefits

More youthful appearance


Negatives

“Pixie ears”

Displaced or altered hairlines/sideburns

Visible or poor scarring

Infection, nerve damage, swelling etc


Cost

between £3,000 and £30,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“My surgery and recovery were seamless—everything really went well. I had my facelift done under local anesthesia, a cocktail of pills that made me sleepy plus numbing shots that I don’t even recall getting. I was initially worried that I’d feel tugging or pulling, but I never felt anything. I was awake and talking to the doctor for some of the surgery but definitely dozed off for the majority of the time. I remember the doctor telling me what he was doing. We chatted about Instagram and the two Real Housewives of New Jersey he had also performed facelifts on. I remember him telling me when I was almost done.

After the procedure, I was pretty alert. I had no real pain—just tenderness and some swelling and bruising in my neck and upper cheeks. The head wrap I had to wear was tight—that was probably the most annoying part. My husband says I slept a lot the remainder of the afternoon and the night after surgery. I took my pain medicine for the first two to three days, as a preventive measure.

I was able to be up on my own almost right away. I was careful and slow but didn’t require much assistance. I went out in public the day after surgery—I was swollen but overall felt good. By day three, I was socializing with my family. It was winter, so I wore a hat and was able to cover bruising—I really did not look bad—and I kept getting compliments on how supple my skin looked. I was puffy, but my skin looked really, really good.

Now, eight months out, I still have some numbness, but it’s getting better each day”


Complication rate

2%


Results

View attachment 4153496

Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 6

Complication rate 6

Cost 3

Overall 6

Intro

cosmetic procedure to remove excess breast tissue and fat in men to achieve a more masculine chest contour

Benefits

Gets rid of gyno

Negatives

Bleeding, infection, nerve damage etc

Seromas

Nipple Necrosis


Cost

£2,000-£7,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“I just got it done 6 days ago, after 3 days almost zero pain. Didn’t need pain killers, I was going on short walks after 2 days. I took a two hour train home 6 hours after waking up from op. The recovery for grade 1/2 really not that bad. I will says it’s not nothing… a few days of discomfort and a month of no gym and wearing an annoying vest…”

Anecdote from



Complication rate

Around 5%

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39652398/#:~:text=We collected demographic and clinical,gynecomastia; liposuction; surgical techniques.

Results

View attachment 4153510

Conclusion

Effectiveness 6

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 8

Cost 7

Overall 7

Intro

involving cutting, moving, and fixing the chin bone in a new position with screws and plates

Benefits

Increased chin width, projection and height


Negatives

Pain, Bleeding, Swelling etc

Poor Wound Healing or Scarring

Tooth Root Damage


Cost

£3,000-£10,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“For someone with a low pain threshold, it hasn’t been bad. I was terrified going into theatre and the surgeon was very reassuring, “it won’t be bad, I usually do this as an add-on with bimax surgery.” I’m now day 3 post op. The pain has mostly been from the swelling, a throbbing sensation and some jaw aching. However, all completely manageable with NSAIDs, paracetamol and tapentadol as required. Tapentadol is a strong pain killer for mod-severe pain. I took it for the first two days but have cut down today. I can tell the swelling will take a long time to go down, it seems to be at its peak today.

It’s comforting to read other people’s stories. Even though everyone can be so different. I’m on day 5 post op. And my chin feels huge from the front and also makes my face look longer. I already had a long face. From the side profile, even though I’m swollen, I’m actually happy with it. It’s the front view is killing me..which I didn’t think I was going to have any issue with. I’m trying to be calm and trust the process. Numbers in my bottom lip and chin is insane. It’s so weird to take, eat, and smile! Which is also killing me. I also feel like I have a ball in my neck but it’s bigger on one side than the other and that concerns me a little.

I’m at about 3.5 months now. And it’s a major difference. My surgeon did tell me at my last follow up there is still some residual swelling and the chin will continue to “refine.” I’m still trying to be patient for final results but I’ve come a long way since that first week! The front view was what killed me too so you have to be very patient. Talking completely normal took a couple weeks but I remember my family telling me I sounded fine after 2 weeks. You’re just more aware of it. It’s crazy but even as swelling goes down you will start to adjust to your “new face” but it does take a while. I definitely had moments where I thought I made a mistake. But I’m happy now and I truly believe that by 6-9 months I’ll be even happier.”

Anecdote from Reddit


Complication rate

About 5%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 5

Complication rate 5

Cost 5

Overall 7

Intro

This is technically not a surgery but I’m including it anyway

This powerful treatment removes deeper layers of skin, stimulating new collagen formation and resulting in significant skin smoothing and rejuvenation

Benefits

Removes almost all wrinkles, and increases collagen drastically


Negatives

Redness, Swelling, and Crusting

Skin Color Changes

Infection

Scarring

Organ damage

Cardiac toxicity


Cost

between £1,500 to over £4,500

Recovery

Expected recovery

“For the vast majority the patients, the peeling process is complete by 10 days. After this time, makeup can be applied to the face without any issues.

The facial skin will be pink at first but settles over the next 6-8 weeks.”


Complication rate

around 5%


Results

View attachment 4153537

Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 4

Cost 5

Overall 7

Intro

It is most commonly performed to pin back prominent ears that stick out from the head, making them sit closer to the skull. The surgery involves making incisions to reposition, reshape, and secure the ear cartilage with stitches, often on the back of the ear

Benefits

Reduces ear prominence


Negatives

Pain, bruising, swelling etc

https://111.wales.nhs.uk/encyclopaedia/e/article/earreshaping#:~:text=Side effects,ears for about 2 weeks

Scars

https://111.wales.nhs.uk/encyclopaedia/e/article/earreshaping#:~:text=Side effects,ears for about 2 weeks

Only lasts 5-10 years


Cost

£1,500 to £6,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

If you want information on recovery I’d recommend reading https://drjosebarrera.com/what-to-expect-during-recovery-from-otoplasty-surgery/

Complication rate

Around 5-10%


Results

View attachment 4153554

Conclusion

Effectiveness 8

Ease of getting 8

Complication rate 8

Cost 7

Overall 8

Intro

a surgical procedure that corrects or removes epicanthal folds at the inner corner of the eye

Benefits

Improves Canthial tilt, pfl, eye spacing and eye width to height


Negatives

Scarring

Pain, infection, bleeding etc


Cost

£1,000 to £3,500

Recovery

Expected recovery

worsening swelling and bruising for the first 2-3 days, with peak discomfort around day 3. You can expect stitches to be removed within the first week. While you can return to work around days 10-14, significant swelling and bruising can last 2-3 weeks, with final results becoming visible within 1-3 months

Complication rate

Around 5%


Results

View attachment 4153579

Conclusion

Effectiveness 9

Ease of getting 7

Complication rate 7

Cost 6

Overall 8

Intro

Again not actually classed as a surgery but I’m adding it anyway.

Skin lightening surgeries is a broad term for medical procedures that lighten skin by targeting pigment, with common methods including laser treatments, strong chemical peels, and dermabrasion, which remove or break down melanin

Benefits

Lightens skin tone


Negatives

Ochronosis

Increased sun sensitivity

Higher risk of skin cancer


Cost

£100-£2,000

Recovery

Expected recovery
  • Initial recovery: Most patients experience redness, swelling, and a sensation similar to a mild sunburn for a few days. For more intense ablative lasers, the skin may be raw, ooze, and form a crust, which should not be picked.
  • Healing time: Healing depends on the laser intensity. For ablative lasers, it can take 10 to 21 days for the area to heal. For non-ablative lasers, downtime is minimal, often lasting only a day or two.
Complication rate

About 20%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 3

Complication rate 4

Cost 9

Overall 7

Intro

An incision is made within the natural hairline, a strip of forehead skin is removed, and the scalp is advanced forward to the new, lower position

Benefits

Shortens the forehead


Negatives

Infection, bleeding, pain etc

Scarring


Cost

From £5,000-£15,000

Recovery

Expected recovery

“However, you need to stay close to the clinic for at least a week while the stiches are healing, meaning you need to factor a long hotel stay into the price if you're traveling for the surgery. How well the scar heals will depend from person to person but should be presentable within 4-6 months”

Anecdote from @LiterallyNightwing

Complication rate

Under 1%


Results

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Conclusion

Effectiveness 7

Ease of getting 5

Complication rate 6

Cost 4

Overall 6



LeFort I — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 4/10; Complication rate (safety): 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 6/10

LeFort II — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 5/10

LeFort III — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 6/10

Bimax — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 6/10

CCW bimax — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 5/10

Trimax — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 5/10

Cheekbone implants (malar implants) — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Jaw implants (general mandibular body implants) — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Jaw angle implants — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Brow-ridge implants — Effectiveness: 5/10; Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 5/10

Chin implants — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Infraorbital implants — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 4/10; Overall: 6/10

Custom skull implants — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 3/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 3/10

Wraparound implants (craniofacial wrap implants) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 6/10

Neck lift— Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 6/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 5/10

Upper eyelid fat grafting — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Under-eye fat grafting — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

penile fat grafting / 'dick fat grafting' — Effectiveness: 5/10; Ease: 4/10; Complication rate: 1/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 3/10

Lip fat grafting — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

OBO (Orbital Box Osteotomy / box osteotomy) — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 5/10

Leg lengthening — Effectiveness: 10/10 (for increasing length); Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 1/10; Overall: 6/10

Clavicle lengthening — Effectiveness: 3/10; Ease: 1/10; Complication rate: 3/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 2/10

Canthoplasty — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 8/10

Rhinoplasty — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 7/10

Eye color change (laser depigmentation) — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 1/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 3/10

Filler (dermal fillers) — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 10/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 8/10

Botox — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 10/10; Complication rate: 9/10; Cost: 9/10; Overall: 9/10

Mouth widening — Effectiveness: 3/10; Ease: 4/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 4/10

Hair transplant — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 7/10

Eyebrow transplant — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 7/10

Eyelash lift — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 6/10; Complication rate: 10/10; Cost: 10/10; Overall: 8/10

Beard transplant — Effectiveness: 4/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 5/10

BSSO (Bilateral sagittal split osteotomy) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 7/10

Upper blepharoplasty — Effectiveness: 3/10; Ease: 9/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 4/10 or 6/10 if you’re Asian

Lower blepharoplasty — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Orbital decompression — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 2/10; Complication rate: 3/10; Cost: 2/10; Overall: 5/10

Buccal fat removal — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 9/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 7/10

Liposuction — Effectiveness: 5/10 (for contouring); Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 6/10

Tummy tuck (abdominoplasty) — Effectiveness: 6/10 (contour/skin removal); Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 5/10

Voice deepening surgery — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 4/10; Overall: 5/10

Alar base reduction — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 8/10; Overall: 8/10

SARPE (Surgically Assisted Rapid Palatal Expansion) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 6/10

Face lift (rhytidectomy) — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 6/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 3/10; Overall: 6/10

Gynecomastia surgery — Effectiveness: 6/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 7/10

Genioplasty —Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 5/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 7/10

Phenol peel (deep chemical peel) — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 5/10; Overall: 7/10

Otoplasty (ear pinning) — Effectiveness: 8/10; Ease: 8/10; Complication rate: 8/10; Cost: 7/10; Overall: 8/10

Medial epicanthoplasty — Effectiveness: 9/10; Ease: 7/10; Complication rate: 7/10; Cost: 6/10; Overall: 8/10

Skin lightening surgery — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 3/10; Complication rate: 4/10; Cost: 9/10; Overall: 7/10

Hairline lowering — Effectiveness: 7/10; Ease: 5/10; Complication rate: 6/10; Cost: 4/10; Overall: 6/10

Conclusion of the conclusion (if you’re extremely lazy)

LeFort I — Overall: 6/10

LeFort II — Overall: 5/10

LeFort III — Overall: 6/10

Bimax — Overall: 6/10

CCW bimax — Overall: 5/10

Trimax — Overall: 5/10

Cheekbone implants — Overall: 6/10

Jaw implants — Overall: 6/10

Jaw angle implants — Overall: 6/10

Brow-ridge implants — Overall: 5/10

Chin implants — Overall: 7/10

Infraorbital implants — Overall: 6/10

Custom skull implants — Overall: 3/10

Wraparound implants — Overall: 6/10

Neck lift — Overall: 5/10

Upper eyelid fat grafting — Overall: 7/10

Under-eye fat grafting — Overall: 6/10

Penile fat grafting — Overall: 3/10

Lip fat grafting — Overall: 7/10

OBO — Overall: 5/10

Leg lengthening — Overall: 6/10

Clavicle lengthening — Overall: 2/10

Canthoplasty — Overall: 8/10

Rhinoplasty — Overall: 7/10

Eye color change — Overall: 3/10

Filler — Overall: 8/10

Botox — Overall: 9/10

Mouth widening — Overall: 4/10

Hair transplant — Overall: 7/10

Eyebrow transplant — Overall: 7/10

Eyelash lift — Overall: 8/10

Beard transplant — Overall: 5/10

BSSO — Overall: 7/10

Upper blepharoplasty — Overall: 4/10 (or 6/10 if Asian)

Lower blepharoplasty — Overall: 7/10

Orbital decompression — Overall: 5/10

Buccal fat removal — Overall: 7/10

Liposuction — Overall: 6/10

Tummy tuck — Overall: 5/10

Voice deepening surgery — Overall: 5/10

Alar base reduction — Overall: 8/10

SARPE — Overall: 6/10

Face lift — Overall: 6/10

Gynecomastia surgery — Overall: 7/10

Genioplasty — Overall: 7/10

Phenol peel — Overall: 7/10

Otoplasty — Overall: 8/10

Medial epicanthoplasty — Overall: 8/10

Skin lightening surgery — Overall: 7/10

Hairline lowering — Overall: 6/10

dnr but good thread
 
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Can someone please give me the rundown on botox for nasolabial folds. should i get a face lift to remove them or botox ? People say botox ages you but thats because stupid retard woman get it at 20 when no lose of volume. A friend of mine said it atrophy's the muscle making it worse wtf should i do ?
 

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Can someone please give me the rundown on botox for nasolabial folds. should i get a face lift to remove them or botox ? People say botox ages you but thats because stupid retard woman get it at 20 when no lose of volume. A friend of mine said it atrophy's the muscle making it worse wtf should i do ?
Do aqualyx instead
 

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