surgery with @realsurgerymax

[Deleted member 16683]

has anyone actually gotten surgery with them and have they posted results

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

i think he just designs implants

 

[Deleted member 16683]

i think he just designs implants

isn't he @ giant.implants on instagram? i remember messaging him on here and he told me he does thinks like bimax in cambodia

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

isn't he @ giant.implants on instagram? i remember messaging him on here and he told me he does thinks like bimax in cambodia

trolling

 

[smvmaxxertilllate]

isn't he @ giant.implants on instagram? i remember messaging him on here and he told me he does thinks like bimax in cambodia

thats his meme page

 

[Deleted member 16683]

thats his meme page

does he have a srs page bc i need actual help and there's many good posts on there. do you have any idea how much he charges for implants

 

[Deleted member 14392]

does he have a srs page bc i need actual help and there's many good posts on there. do you have any idea how much he charges for implants

unicorn.cmf

 

[pcmaxing]

very knowledgeable guy but very poor customer service, which is ok if you looking for free advice . But for planning surgeries with him or hiring him for designs , not acceptable . He told me to go get cbct scans and I’m waiting over 2 weeks to hear back from him on if I even got right scans (which I’m almost sure I didn’t ) . Looks like I blew 250 on scans
Repeated messages ignored etc

 

[Deleted member 16683]

very knowledgeable guy but very poor customer service, which is ok if you looking for free advice . But for planning surgeries with him or hiring him for designs , not acceptable . He told me to go get cbct scans and I’m waiting over 2 weeks to hear back from him on if I even got right scans (which I’m almost sure I didn’t ) . Looks like I blew 250 on scans
Repeated messages ignored etc

i just messaged him and he said he wants $200 for a consult

 

[pcmaxing]

has anyone actually gotten surgery with them and have they posted results

Pretty sure he don’t do surgery. Just implant designs n surgery max advice

i just messaged him and he said he wants $200 for a consult

gl maybe you get better service thrn I did
I went though that , was told a price and to get scans before I send money
Sent scans over 2 weeks ago n been given run around since . Countless ignored messages n even after pleas to just let me know if they did the scans correctly . Was told he would look at then and get beck next day . Never answered. N ignore again Forget it now , it’s to late thry aren’t gonna retake the scans if wrong unless I pay again .. been to long. 250 bucks blown

 

[fruitgunpop]

very knowledgeable guy but very poor customer service, which is ok if you looking for free advice . But for planning surgeries with him or hiring him for designs , not acceptable . He told me to go get cbct scans and I’m waiting over 2 weeks to hear back from him on if I even got right scans (which I’m almost sure I didn’t ) . Looks like I blew 250 on scans
Repeated messages ignored etc

@RealSurgerymax
@NegativeNorwood

 

[fruitgunpop]

Pretty sure he don’t do surgery. Just implant designs n surgery max advice

gl maybe you get better service thrn I did
I went though that , was told a price and to get scans before I send money
Sent scans over 2 weeks ago n been given run around since . Countless ignored messages n even after pleas to just let me know if they did the scans correctly . Was told he would look at then and get beck next day . Never answered. N ignore again Forget it now , it’s to late thry aren’t gonna retake the scans if wrong unless I pay again .. been to long. 250 bucks blown

Did you pay him for consultation yet?

 

[OnlyWs]

very knowledgeable guy but very poor customer service, which is ok if you looking for free advice . But for planning surgeries with him or hiring him for designs , not acceptable . He told me to go get cbct scans and I’m waiting over 2 weeks to hear back from him on if I even got right scans (which I’m almost sure I didn’t ) . Looks like I blew 250 on scans
Repeated messages ignored etc

Completely agree. The guy is extremely unprofessional and rude in how he operates. He might be slightly better than current surgeons designing (although I’m not convinced he is) but he will leave you for weeks on end waiting for simple things and make promises over and over again he never fulfills. Have talked to multiple people on this site who had their time wasted by him. I personally would have had surgery 3 months earlier if I never contacted him. To be avoided.

 

[whiteissuperior]

Completely agree. The guy is extremely unprofessional and rude in how he operates. He might be slightly better than current surgeons designing (although I’m not convinced he is) but he will leave you for weeks on end waiting for simple things and make promises over and over again he never fulfills. Have talked to multiple people on this site who had their time wasted by him. I personally would have had surgery 3 months earlier if I never contacted him. To be avoided.

im talking to him rn, im an extreme case and need my surgery designed. I sent him my scans almost a month ago, had my appointment for bimax consult cuz I wanted his input, just for him to ignore me til after the appointment even after I had already pushed it back, and is now asking for a 200$ consult fee when he hasnt even checked my scans to ensure theyre operable for a whole month. yet he has time to post memes on giant implants everyday, but no time to just open a scans file.

Was your surgery design at least good? do you know of any other blackpilled surgeons i should consult for binmax and midface implants ??

 

[OnlyWs]

im talking to him rn, im an extreme case and need my surgery designed. I sent him my scans almost a month ago, had my appointment for bimax consult cuz I wanted his input, just for him to ignore me til after the appointment even after I had already pushed it back, and is now asking for a 200$ consult fee when he hasnt even checked my scans to ensure theyre operable for a whole month. yet he has time to post memes on giant implants everyday, but no time to just open a scans file.

Was your surgery design at least good? do you know of any other blackpilled surgeons i should consult for binmax and midface implants ??

I was talking to him for months and he kept promising to design the implants week after week. It was a nightmare to even get on a call with him. He’d agree a time (middle of the night for me cause I’m in Europe) then ghost me. This happened multiple times. In the end he never designed the implants despite telling me for months he would. About 2 weeks ago he ghosted me completely. PM me and I’ll tell you the surgeon I’m with now, he’s very good and professional, complete opposite to RSM.

 

[whiteissuperior]

I was talking to him for months and he kept promising to design the implants week after week. It was a nightmare to even get on a call with him. He’d agree a time (middle of the night for me cause I’m in Europe) then ghost me. This happened multiple times. In the end he never designed the implants despite telling me for months he would. About 2 weeks ago he ghosted me completely. PM me and I’ll tell you the surgeon I’m with now, he’s very good and professional, complete opposite to RSM.

thanks! If he doesnt respond soon I will be avoiding him

 

[fruitgunpop]

I was talking to him for months and he kept promising to design the implants week after week. It was a nightmare to even get on a call with him. He’d agree a time (middle of the night for me cause I’m in Europe) then ghost me. This happened multiple times. In the end he never designed the implants despite telling me for months he would. About 2 weeks ago he ghosted me completely. PM me and I’ll tell you the surgeon I’m with now, he’s very good and professional, complete opposite to RSM.

You payed for his services and this is how he dealt with you?

 

[OnlyWs]

You payed for his services and this is how he dealt with you?

I offered to pay multiple times and even offered to pay multiple X what he was originally asking if he would stick to his word and design the implant by a fixed date, because I had originally planned to get surgery in oct or Nov at the latest and had been planning my work schedule around that.

He guaranteed it would be ready for end of Nov so I booked accommodation and lost a few hundred in deposits but having to figure out how I would take time off this year was the biggest issue. He kept stringing me along and in the end never designed anything and lied to me for months.

Wish I never contacted him and went to straight to the surgeon I’m currently with as I had intended to do from day 1 who has been great and designed exactly as I had imagined. Don’t want to post the name here but I will in PM.

 

[whiteissuperior]

I offered to pay multiple times and even offered to pay multiple X what he was originally asking if he would stick to his word and design the implant by a fixed date, because I had originally planned to get surgery in oct or Nov at the latest and had been planning my work schedule around that.

He guaranteed it would be ready for end of Nov so I booked accommodation and lost a few hundred in deposits but having to figure out how I would take time off this year was the biggest issue. He kept stringing me along and in the end never designed anything and lied to me for months.

Wish I never contacted him and went to straight to the surgeon I’m currently with as I had intended to do from day 1 who has been great and designed exactly as I had imagined. Don’t want to post the name here but I will in PM.

hes now sending out calendly links, making u pay b4 he even looks at scans. definitely would avoid paying him

 

[CristianT]

Guys, he is very busy. Now he will have a proper scheduled time.

Don't lose hope.
My design is still ongoing since August so I understand your frustration, but things will change(for good) from now on.

 

[NegativeNorwood]

Guys, he is very busy. Now he will have a proper scheduled time.

Don't lose hope.
My design is still ongoing since August so I understand your frustration, but things will change(for good) from now on.

Agree with this. He deserves the benefit of the doubt and his work is worth the wait. The scheduling system should be a great improvement.
I'll also book him but in a few months, the work I saw from him (implant design) was extremely impressive.

 

[zeek]

I had Le Fort 3 and LL with him in Cambodia and now I'm blind

Also my one of my legs was amputated :/

 

[pcmaxing]

Did you pay him for consultation yet?

No he didn’t take money, it’s not like he scammed me , but I did pay for scans to specifically deal with him per his request
Anyways he has contacted me and we gonna sort this out . He has been very busy , which is understandable but communication should be a bit better with customers

 

[Deleted member 16683]

I offered to pay multiple times and even offered to pay multiple X what he was originally asking if he would stick to his word and design the implant by a fixed date, because I had originally planned to get surgery in oct or Nov at the latest and had been planning my work schedule around that.

He guaranteed it would be ready for end of Nov so I booked accommodation and lost a few hundred in deposits but having to figure out how I would take time off this year was the biggest issue. He kept stringing me along and in the end never designed anything and lied to me for months.

Wish I never contacted him and went to straight to the surgeon I’m currently with as I had intended to do from day 1 who has been great and designed exactly as I had imagined. Don’t want to post the name here but I will in PM.

pm surgeon pls

 

[User49]

Guys, he is very busy. Now he will have a proper scheduled time.

Don't lose hope.
My design is still ongoing since August so I understand your frustration, but things will change(for good) from now on.

Didn’t u get wraparound before? What are you getting now?

 

[whiteissuperior]

Guys, he is very busy. Now he will have a proper scheduled time.

Don't lose hope.
My design is still ongoing since August so I understand your frustration, but things will change(for good) from now on.

Agree with this. He deserves the benefit of the doubt and his work is worth the wait. The scheduling system should be a great improvement.
I'll also book him but in a few months, the work I saw from him (implant design) was extremely impressive.

realsurgerymaxx alts detected.

muhhh his work is worth the wait. Has anyone actually SEEN any of his previous clients results?? ive only seen that one video on IG

 

[malicieusss]

Pretty sure he don’t do surgery. Just implant designs n surgery max advice

gl maybe you get better service thrn I did
I went though that , was told a price and to get scans before I send money
Sent scans over 2 weeks ago n been given run around since . Countless ignored messages n even after pleas to just let me know if they did the scans correctly . Was told he would look at then and get beck next day . Never answered. N ignore again Forget it now , it’s to late thry aren’t gonna retake the scans if wrong unless I pay again .. been to long. 250 bucks blown

It was the same with me but he's just super busy. He just setup a calendly to make appointments which will make everything better moving forward.

 

[NegativeNorwood]

realsurgerymaxx alts detected.

muhhh his work is worth the wait. Has anyone actually SEEN any of his previous clients results?? ive only seen that one video on IG

Jfl at you. I've seen one example on IG months ago that was a supraorbital + infraorbital implant design and the ascension was great. Also you don't need to be a genius to conclude that this (one example of his work he posted on Looksmax)

is miles better and way more refined than this:

Absolutely over for you if you can't see the huge difference in quality.

 

[whiteissuperior]

Jfl at you. I've seen one example on IG months ago that was a supraorbital + infraorbital implant design and the ascension was great. Also you don't need to be a genius to conclude that this (one example of his work he posted on Looksmax)

is miles better and way more refined than this:

Absolutely over for you if you can't see the huge difference in quality.

What would be even better is seeing an actual BnA rather than a theoretical design ie what o meant. As in we don’t actually know if he has any clients that he has actually helped besides 1 guy on instagram, given Bssivslly everyone in this thread has said he is impossible to contact. How do we know his implant designs have been. Actually used on anyone?

Also, jfl “he designs bigger implants are hat cover more surface area they must be better bra!!!!”

Doesn’t the existence of Eppley disprove this? What matters is how the actually look on the face. Not what you would imagine it looks like or how it looks on a CBCT. That’s why we need to see real BnAs

 

[NegativeNorwood]

What would be even better is seeing an actual BnA rather than a theoretical design ie what o meant. As in we don’t actually know if he has any clients that he has actually helped besides 1 guy on instagram, given Bssivslly everyone in this thread has said he is impossible to contact. How do we know his implant designs have been. Actually used on anyone?

Also, jfl “he designs bigger implants are hat cover more surface area they must be better bra!!!!”

Doesn’t the existence of Eppley disprove this? What matters is how the actually look on the face. Not what you would imagine it looks like or how it looks on a CBCT. That’s why we need to see real BnAs

You are retarded, confirmed. His design resembles a natural jaw (and cheekbones) way more than Eppley's. It's way more nuanced, not bigger. That was the reason of the comparison.
Before and afters of course help but lmao at your room temperature IQ, it's over for you no matter what you do.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

You are retarded, confirmed. His design resembles a natural jaw (and cheekbones) way more than Eppley's. It's way more nuanced, not bigger. That was the reason of the comparison.
Before and afters of course help but lmao at your room temperature IQ, it's over for you no matter what you do.

i need that i need angularity instead of width to match my narrow mouth and not make it look uncanny

 

[whiteissuperior]

You are retarded, confirmed. His design resembles a natural jaw (and cheekbones) way more than Eppley's. It's way more nuanced, not bigger. That was the reason of the comparison.
Before and afters of course help but lmao at your room temperature IQ, it's over for you no matter what you do.

jfl at shilling for a guy who has ignored you for months. Assuming you are not a realsurgerymax alt (which you are). Again you didnt adress any of my points. 1) we have no idea how these implants look on an actual face. 2) He claims to do osteotomy design too. We have no idea if any surgeons will do osteotomies using surgical guides he designs. 3) "Its angular brahhhhhhhhhh!" doesnt matter. a lot of things thatt look good on paper dont irl.

If this was a legit service, all these questions would be answered with galleries of BnAs, and timely responses.

 

[NegativeNorwood]

jfl at shilling for a guy who has ignored you for months. Assuming you are not a realsurgerymax alt (which you are). Again you didnt adress any of my points. 1) we have no idea how these implants look on an actual face. 2) He claims to do osteotomy design too. We have no idea if any surgeons will do osteotomies using surgical guides he designs. 3) "Its angular brahhhhhhhhhh!" doesnt matter. a lot of things thatt look good on paper dont irl.

If this was a legit service, all these questions would be answered with galleries of BnAs, and timely responses.

Not shilling, just facts. I'm not an alt.

1) He showed me an example on IG months ago. The implants look amazing on the face, even with some swelling still left.
2) He has one genioplasty result posted on his IG which he planned and designed the plates for.
3) Strawman argument.

I'm not going to engage with you and your 40 IQ strawman arguments anymore because I have nothing to win or prove with it, nor do I want to waste my time with you.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

Not shilling, just facts. I'm not an alt.

1) He showed me an example on IG months ago. The implants look amazing on the face, even with some swelling still left.
2) He has one genioplasty result posted on his IG which he planned and designed the plates for.
3) Strawman argument.

I'm not going to engage with you and your 40 IQ strawman arguments anymore because I have nothing to win or prove with it, nor do I want to waste my time with you.

can you please pm me the result

 

[NegativeNorwood]

can you please pm me the result

I don't have it. He insisted on not screenshotting to protect the patient's privacy.

 

[CristianT]

What would be even better is seeing an actual BnA rather than a theoretical design ie what o meant. As in we don’t actually know if he has any clients that he has actually helped besides 1 guy on instagram, given Bssivslly everyone in this thread has said he is impossible to contact. How do we know his implant designs have been. Actually used on anyone?

True tbh. And no, im not an "alt".

The guy who got the implants which @NegativeNorwood posted is not happy about the result. He is still swollen, we will see how the result will be.

 

[pcmaxing]

It was the same with me but he's just super busy. He just setup a calendly to make appointments which will make everything better moving forward.

I didn’t mind the wait. It was the poor communication and run around
Telling me send him scans, which I laid out 250 for and telling me the next day he will let me know if they are correct and never hearing from hiim
Set

It was the same with me but he's just super busy. He just setup a calendly to make appointments which will make everything better moving forward.

it’s not problem with being super busy, just commicate Better with Customers and give honest answers ..set dates and hold appointments ..even if they are months from now., . Don’t tell people to get scans to proceed and just disappear for weeks,ignoring them . I got scans and just wanted to know if it was correct scans So i could get them retaken if not without having to pay cbct fees again and I informed him of this “ I will check tonight and get back to you” and never hear from him ..ever .4, 5 6 7 messages asking if correct scans and just never answered .now its to late . Flush the money
i also informed him I had surgery sceduled with taban (eye surgery) in April and I was thinking of canceling and was waiting on his input” don’t worry you got time “ and now it’s already just about Feb . He was so iffy, I went ahead and just canceled everything in fear of waiting forever with him and losing my deposit with taban ( probably for best anyways )
3) I was falling so impatient I went to his fb page and booked a consultation ( which was an option)and I waited over an hr on fb and nobody showed up, then finally someone answered hours later saying “this account isn’t checked” and just dissappear ignoring other questions . So why was there an option to book this? I sat there on a Friday night waiting for hours . this is professional behavior?

being busy isn’t an excuse to leave customers hanging in limbo like this. With zero communication. It’s very unprofessional , no excuses. ..enough .

new business model ? Great let’s see some freaking improvement before throwing out pats on the back left and right .. I told him I’m still willing to give it a shot and report my experiences,even though it has been awful so far . God knows I need help more then anyone. Let’s see it !

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Bunch of karens in this thread. $200 is pocket change to big ballers like us who have tons of things on our plate. Just be patient and he'll get to u when he got time.

 

[whiteissuperior]

True tbh. And no, im not an "alt".

The guy who got the implants which @NegativeNorwood posted is not happy about the result. He is still swollen, we will see how the result will be.

@NegativeNorwood thoughts?

 

[NegativeNorwood]

True tbh. And no, im not an "alt".

The guy who got the implants which @NegativeNorwood posted is not happy about the result. He is still swollen, we will see how the result will be.

@NegativeNorwood thoughts?

"He is still swollen, we will see how the result will be."

The guy I saw had another implant design done, not the one I posted. IIRC, he got this:

That one looked very good to me despite still being a bit swollen, completely transformed his eye area.
No comments about the other one because I haven't seen him, maybe after the swelling goes down he likes the result.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

Bunch of karens in this thread. $200 is pocket change to big ballers like us who have tons of things on our plate. Just be patient and he'll get to u when he got time.

should i cancel my eppley consult and get one with him instead

 

[Oberyn]

giant implants LLC mogs him. jfl @ paying rsm instead of giant implants. i paid them $5 and they designed mogger jaw implant for me in 24 hours.

 

[Deleted member 16683]

giant implants LLC mogs him. jfl @ paying rsm instead of giant implants. i paid them $5 and they designed mogger jaw implant for me in 24 hours.

can u tag his socials

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

should i cancel my eppley consult and get one with him instead

How long is he making you wait and also does he do virtual?

 

[Deleted member 16683]

How long is he making you wait and also does he do virtual?

eppley making me wait like a bit less than 2 months i scheduled like 2 weeks ago and my consult is in march. yes he does virtual it's gonna be a zoom call. unfortunately it's only 30 minutes but i'm just going to ask him how to improve my face in general

 

[Deleted member 23017]

i just messaged him and he said he wants $200 for a consult

he told me the same thing jfl

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

eppley making me wait like a bit less than 2 months i scheduled like 2 weeks ago and my consult is in march. yes he does virtual it's gonna be a zoom call. unfortunately it's only 30 minutes but i'm just going to ask him how to improve my face in general

Wow that's surprisingly short. All the other surgeons I ask for consults always make me wait ages... Seems like Eppley is the guy to go to.

 

[Deleted member 15698]

All I’ll say is he’s the only person here other than myself whose opinion I value at all. If you’re crying about a $200 consult fee you aren’t going to get surgery soon anyway, get your money up

 

[Deleted member 20631]

I’m able to wait a couple of months since my surgery should be half a year from now, I’m just hoping I can get my implants designed in less then 4 months

 

[pcmaxing]

eppley making me wait like a bit less than 2 months i scheduled like 2 weeks ago and my consult is in march. yes he does virtual it's gonna be a zoom call. unfortunately it's only 30 minutes but i'm just going to ask him how to improve my face in general

2 months isn’t bad … I had to wait like 5 or 6 months for my consultation with taban..
pagnoni consult wait was like a couple of days