TABAN IS AGAINST CANTHOPLASTY (GTFIH)

[decadouche57]

Basically I met with him and he said he doesn't advise normal cantho he says its better to combine canthoplasty with lower lid retraction. Total cost of this procedure is 20K.

What do you guys think?

@RealSurgerymax

 

[decadouche57]

The fact that he brought up lower lid retraction makes me feel he is a good surgeon as most would try to do a standard cantho

 

[mufasamufasa]

isnt that the guy who botched frank tufano with same surgery

 

[decadouche57]

isnt that the guy who botched frank tufano with same surgery

I don't think the botch was his fault but bc the guy wanted too many surgeries at once and did OBO

 

[Deleted member 147538]

I don't think the botch was his fault but bc the guy wanted too many surgeries at once and did OBO

Ye but some blame still lies on tufano as he should’ve declined the request

 

[decadouche57]

Ye but some blame still lies on tufano as he should’ve declined the request

On taban you mean

 

[cutecel1337]

I don't think the botch was his fault but bc the guy wanted too many surgeries at once and did OBO

he got botched obo

 

[tweaqo]

and did OBO

he got botched obo

He did not get OBO lol

He got orbital decompression.

And he should’ve never performed it, you can’t say “muh the patient asked for it, so it’s not the doctor’s fault”.

The Doctor has a duty of care for the patient, and the OD should never have been performed.

 

[lurking truecel]

He did not get OBO lol

He got orbital decompression.

And he should’ve never performed it, you can’t say “muh the patient asked for it, so it’s not the doctor’s fault”.

The Doctor has a duty of care for the patient, and the OD should never have been performed.

Even the best surgeons have lots of botches. If their is a risk on the surgery risk list, then a surgeon who performs it relatively often experienced it atleast once. That's the name of the game

 

[lurking truecel]

Ye but some blame still lies on tufano as he should’ve declined the request

If a surgeon would start declining patients because there is a risk with surgery not many surgeries would be done. Imagine living in fairytale land thinking not every surgeon on earth who performs a few times weekly dont have a lot of botches

 

[tweaqo]

Even the best surgeons have lots of botches. If their is a risk on the surgery risk list, then a surgeon who performs it relatively often experienced it atleast once. That's the name of the game

Imo orbital decompression should not have been performed.

I think it should only be performed on patients with Graves’ disease.

Supra and infras would’ve been safer, I still think Dr T shouldn’t have performed it and it was negligent.

OD has far too high botch rate

 

[lurking truecel]

Imo orbital decompression should not have been performed.

I think it should only be performed on patients with Graves’ disease.

Supra and infras would’ve been safer, I still think Dr T shouldn’t have performed it and it was negligent.

OD has far too high botch rate

His eyes were bulging, and that one guy got botched doesnt mean anything of the botch rate. He was unlucky, and OD might be risky but not so risky it shouldnt be performed

 

[tweaqo]

His eyes were bulging, and that one guy got botched doesnt mean anything of the botch rate. He was unlucky, and OD might be risky but not so risky it shouldnt be performed

Comparative effectiveness of various orbital decompression techniques in treating thyroid-associated ophthalmopathy: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC

In thyroid-associated ophthalmopathy (TAO), orbital decompression is a critical surgical approach for functional and aesthetic reasons. Meanwhile, the presence of surgical complications, especially the new onset of primary gaze diplopia, also ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

11% complication rate bro…

Compare this to literal bimax which involves reshaping the entire lower third and midface, has a complication rate of less than 5%

 

[lurking truecel]

Imo orbital decompression should not have been performed.

I think it should only be performed on patients with Graves’ disease.

Supra and infras would’ve been safer, I still think Dr T shouldn’t have performed it and it was negligent.

OD has far too high botch rate

And also the infra/supra combo for bulging eyes have no result that proves it actually looks good. Overall there is like zero result out there of a hood supra result at all, esp not in motion making that surgery more risky. Imagine doing a surgery where you dont have a video of a guy or girl doing it in motion

 

[lurking truecel]

Comparative effectiveness of various orbital decompression techniques in treating thyroid-associated ophthalmopathy: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC

In thyroid-associated ophthalmopathy (TAO), orbital decompression is a critical surgical approach for functional and aesthetic reasons. Meanwhile, the presence of surgical complications, especially the new onset of primary gaze diplopia, also ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

11% complication rate bro…

Compare this to literal bimax which involves reshaping the entire lower third and midface, has a complication rate of less than 5%

You cant compare like that as all of the patients in the study had the disease and was deformed vs a bimax surgery where many move upper maxilla like 3 mm to close a bite issue. Ofc their will be less complications then a actual big bimax with big downgraft and big bsso.

 

[zaebalsya]

canthoplasty with lower lid retraction. Total cost of this procedure is 20K.

wtf?
Isn't 20k too much for this surgery?

 

[decadouche57]

wtf?
Isn't 20k too much for this surgery?

Yes taban is a scam

 

[cutecel1337]

He did not get OBO lol

He got orbital decompression.

And he should’ve never performed it, you can’t say “muh the patient asked for it, so it’s not the doctor’s fault”.

The Doctor has a duty of care for the patient, and the OD should never have been performed.

Oh sorry i thought its the same thing anyway his case is crazy

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

Imo orbital decompression should not have been performed.

I think it should only be performed on patients with Graves’ disease.

Supra and infras would’ve been safer, I still think Dr T shouldn’t have performed it and it was negligent.

OD has far too high botch rate

agree. the problem 99% of the time is a lack of bone & fat rather than "overly forward eyes"

 

[PSL Center]

Basically I met with him and he said he doesn't advise normal cantho he says its better to combine canthoplasty with lower lid retraction. Total cost of this procedure is 20K.

What do you guys think?

@RealSurgerymax

I thought you already booked your cantho?

 

[decadouche57]

I thought you already booked your cantho?

This is an old post

 

[bossman]

Comparative effectiveness of various orbital decompression techniques in treating thyroid-associated ophthalmopathy: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC

In thyroid-associated ophthalmopathy (TAO), orbital decompression is a critical surgical approach for functional and aesthetic reasons. Meanwhile, the presence of surgical complications, especially the new onset of primary gaze diplopia, also ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

11% complication rate bro…

Compare this to literal bimax which involves reshaping the entire lower third and midface, has a complication rate of less than 5%

Orbital decompression in Grave's disease is a more aggressive procedure compared to cosmetic decompression. Surgeons who specialise in orbital surgeries such as Raymond Douglas mention that cosmetic cases are a lot simpler to perform. Techniques have also improved significantly, a lot of surgeons are using the same methods that were done in the 1950s.

The key is an oculoplastic (not plastic) surgeon who specialises in orbital surgeries. For example, Guy Massry is a brilliant oculoplastic surgeon (maybe even the best) but does not perform orbital surgeries, for which he enlists the help of his friend Dr. Douglas.

It's a very risky surgery and there's only 3-4 people in the world I'd trust with my eyes for it. Compare that to a lower lid retraction repair for example, where I'd trust the top 5% of oculoplastic surgeons to do it without problems

 

[Terrortheplug]

has Taban actually ever ascended anyone other than 80yr old grandmas

 

[FlotPSL]

Orbital decompression in Grave's disease is a more aggressive procedure compared to cosmetic decompression. Surgeons who specialise in orbital surgeries such as Raymond Douglas mention that cosmetic cases are a lot simpler to perform. Techniques have also improved significantly, a lot of surgeons are using the same methods that were done in the 1950s.

The key is an oculoplastic (not plastic) surgeon who specialises in orbital surgeries. For example, Guy Massry is a brilliant oculoplastic surgeon (maybe even the best) but does not perform orbital surgeries, for which he enlists the help of his friend Dr. Douglas.

It's a very risky surgery and there's only 3-4 people in the world I'd trust with my eyes for it. Compare that to a lower lid retraction repair for example, where I'd trust the top 5% of oculoplastic surgeons to do it without problems

Im actually planning on getting it

 

[FlotPSL]

agree. the problem 99% of the time is a lack of bone & fat rather than "overly forward eyes"

How tho

 

[Devon]

Basically I met with him and he said he doesn't advise normal cantho he says its better to combine canthoplasty with lower lid retraction. Total cost of this procedure is 20K.

What do you guys think?

@RealSurgerymax

20k for cantho just lol

 

[gosbo]

His eyes were bulging, and that one guy got botched doesnt mean anything of the botch rate. He was unlucky, and OD might be risky but not so risky it shouldnt be performed

Yes but this was due to his supras and infras, the setness of the eyes themselves were fine, he did NOT need orbital decompression, heck even that mf Hamza needs supras and infras not orbital decompression