Tell me one reason why EVERYONE shouldn't get this instead of surgery to advance maxilla

[dmx]

Why don't more people seek and more surgeons offer distraction

It works in all ages and only takes couple of months, safe, no scar, GUARANTEED results

lol@ lefortcels

lol@ mew copers, this gets you there 10x as fast and at ANY age

 

[Mr.cope]

Literally no improvement

 

[Lev Peshkov]

This is why

 

[dmx]

Literally no improvement

forget lefort you need LASIK for blindness

 

[Chintuck22]

Why don't more people seek and more surgeons offer distraction

It works in all ages and only takes couple of months, safe, no scar, GUARANTEED results

lol@ lefortcels

lol@ mew copers, this gets you there 10x as fast and at ANY age

Because orthotropic field is not advanced in this, and adults rely more on surgery.

Imagine going with that mask outdoors, you will get rocks thrown on you

 

[dmx]

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This is why

maxilla advancement AT LEAST 1.5 cm in 2 months

 

[Darkstrand]

This is lefort you retard, it's just the DO version

 

[Lev Peshkov]

maxilla advancement AT LEAST 1.5 cm in 2 months

Wow and he still had 0 changes while me and @xefo69 @Mohamad @sloopnoob are gonna get surgery and come out with actual forward growth

I know which I am going for

 

[dmx]

Because orthotropic field is not advanced in this, and adults rely more on surgery.

Imagine going with that mask outdoors

incels stay indoors for months on end anyway

whats a couple of months for a solid +2 in looks, besides it can be taken out as an outpatient procedure in minutes

 

[.🇹🇩.]

I will do you one better … why do gaycels have the permission to post here?

 

[JustBeCurry]

I will do you one better … why do gaycels have the permission to post here?

 

[Deleted member 8080]

Wow and he still had 0 changes while me and @xefo69 @Mohamad @sloopnoob are gonna get surgery and come out with actual forward growth

I know which I am going for

r u getting lefort 1 or modified lefort 3?

 

[dmx]

This is lefort you retard, it's just the DO version

no surgery, its pure DO

 

[Deleted member 8080]

no improvements OP. JFL @ greycels tbh

 

[Lev Peshkov]

r u getting lefort 1 or modified lefort 3?

Mod Lefort 3

 

[Deleted member 2748]

from trucel to trucel in 2 months of wearing that shit on your face for 12 hours daily

 

[Deleted member 8080]

Mod Lefort 3

damn man. can u help me out? im deciding on whether to get it, but i keep getting conflicted responses, can I PM u?

 

[dmx]

no improvements OP. JFL @ greycels tbh

just compare pics b and c , not A

If you still cant'see it you deserve to be banned from this site and deserve a reverse lefort

 

[Marsiere214]

mr greycelious
no improvement
go back to reddit

 

[Lev Peshkov]

damn man. can u help me out? im deciding on whether to get it, but i keep getting conflicted responses, can I PM u?

Sure bro

 

[alligatordude]

one reason: if you already have a a top tier forward projected maxilla

 

[Deleted member 8080]

just compare pics b and c , not A

If you still cant'see it you deserve to be banned from this site and deserve a reverse lefort

JFL. keep coping.

 

[Deleted member 4383]

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Foids reaction when she sees a recessed maxilla

 

[dmx]

mr greycelious
no improvement
go back to reddit

Thousands of posts on this forum and can't see the centimetres of advanced maxilla, just logout and don't come back

 

[Deleted member 5258]

 

[Marsiere214]

Thousands of posts on this forum and can't see the centimetres of advanced maxilla, just logout and don't come back

coca cola and pepsi results u retard. All i see is lighting u crying dog

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

yeah about three times that and he's human

 

[Darkstrand]

no surgery, its pure DO

Wtf is your negative iq, do you have a clue what DO is?

 

[TITUS]

This one should go into greycel Best of the Best, he looks best in picture 1.

 

[dmx]

coca cola and pepsi results u retard. All i see is lighting u crying dog

1.7 cm advancement in the study, for thousands of posts here, you sure didnt learn anything

 

[dmx]

Wtf is your negative iq, do you have a clue what DO is?

lefort is a surgery, DO is more of an office procedure pal

 

[dmx]

jfl

 

[Darkstrand]

lefort is a surgery, DO is more of an office procedure pal

Distraction Osteogenesis - they literally make the lefort cuts but without immediate advancement

 

[dmx]

Distraction Osteogenesis - they literally make the lefort cuts but without immediate advancement
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yeah but that's just lefort 1

no need of implants
no need for internal fixation

the high lefort is only to allow disjunction for maxilla to move, its not a full lefort adcancement with fixation

minimal complications, biggest thing- no disadvantages, no failure

Traditional lefort can only get you 5-7 mm of advancement. DO gets you upto 20mm easy

 

[Carl-o]

yeah but that's just lefort 1

no need of implants
no need for internal fixation

the high lefort is only to allow disjunction for maxilla to move

minimal complications, biggest thing- no disadvantages, no failure

Traditional lefort can only get you 5-7 mm of advancement. DO gets you upto 20mm easy

I bet you have no idea what a bimax could do to that guy compared to what he ended up with.
Bimax is litterally a chad surgery this thing is the incel version

 

[dmx]

I bet you have no idea what a bimax could do to that guy compared to what he ended up with.
Bimax is litterally a chad surgery this thing is the incel version

my point is there is no morbidity with distraction osteo. Everyone can get one. literally daycare surgery or next day at the most.

MINIMAL COMPLICATIONS, ShORT SURGERY, SAFE AS FUCK , practically no chance of things going wrong. just chill at home for few weeks, come out with advanced midface

compare to bimax which can fuck you up if done wrong

 

[Marsiere214]

greycelious go to lookism
people will understand u there

 

[Deleted member 4053]

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Damn that new haircut ascended him hard

 

[ImpressionableYouth]

Why don't more people seek and more surgeons offer distraction

It works in all ages and only takes couple of months, safe, no scar, GUARANTEED results

lol@ lefortcels

lol@ mew copers, this gets you there 10x as fast and at ANY age

I spoke to a maxfac surgeon about Distraction as an alternative to the standard Bimax. He explained that while, in theory, it would work, many surgeons are given surface-level training on it and it is reserved for severely (like medical deformity) patients. Also, he explained that while the advancements can be HUGE (up to 1.5 cm of advancement), the issue is that it's hard to control the vectors of growth.

I would love to get Distraction Osteogenesis done, but it sounds like it just isn't going to be widely available for aesthetic enhancements any time soon. For many surgeons, it just isn't as comfortable or familiar as double jaw surgery.

 

[dmx]

I spoke to a maxfac surgeon about Distraction as an alternative to the standard Bimax. He explained that while, in theory, it would work, many surgeons are given surface-level training on it and it is reserved for severely (like medical deformity) patients. Also, he explained that while the advancements can be HUGE (up to 1.5 cm of advancement), the issue is that it's hard to control the vectors of growth.

I would love to get Distraction Osteogenesis done, but it sounds like it just isn't going to be widely available for aesthetic enhancements any time soon. For many surgeons, it just isn't as comfortable or familiar as double jaw surgery.

Hm, valid points. I guess that's why there's a drift. As you said, most experience has been for people with deformities like clefts, and maybe surgeons are reluctant because of a lack of training.
Regarding vectors, multiplanar devices are now available. Earlier it used to be a single vector, now they are adjustable in 3D basically.

Seemed to have potential that's why I posted

 

[Deleted member 9919]

maybe surgeons are reluctant because of a lack of training

They might even be scared to be the "first" to screw up a patient who's sort of normal to start with. I can just imagine the payouts of those lawsuits. It's too bad we live in such a litigious society... in some ways, it kinda holds back scientific progress.

 

[ImpressionableYouth]

Hm, valid points. I guess that's why there's a drift. As you said, most experience has been for people with deformities like clefts, and maybe surgeons are reluctant because of a lack of training.
Regarding vectors, multiplanar devices are now available. Earlier it used to be a single vector, now they are adjustable in 3D basically.

Seemed to have potential that's why I posted

Apparently there are symposiums and conferences for maxfac surgeons and one of the biggest debates is about slowly replacing traditional bimax with distraction osteogenesis.

Think about the potential. It's a lot less invasive, minimal recovery time, and way more advancement across all dimensions, not just forward and rotated like in the bimax.

But as you were saying, it's going to be years before more surgeons slowly warm up to the idea and start getting trained to do Distraction on somewhat normal looking patients.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

damn man. can u help me out? im deciding on whether to get it, but i keep getting conflicted responses, can I PM u?

PM me I’ll tell you whether you need Mod

 

[maxlooks]

I talked with my dentist about distraction osteogenesis, adult can't do it because their bones already hardened