TEN GOOD REASONS NOT TO MAKE FORNICATION

[Gengar]

@stone @heightface hey guys. what happened to that powerful faith? ugh. a pickle, uh? ever heard neighbors screaming for no reason? ugh. you'll be amazed at how fast that can escalate.

yikes

 

[Deleted member 16582]

I believe Islam is one of Satan's greatest counterfeits of the truth.

In the end times there will be an awful lot of people that will end up following the anti christ while they think they will be following jesus. Make of that what you will.
You better be 200% sure of your beliefs because this is not a game, this is quite serious, with quite serious implications.

 

[Marsiere214]

Mohammad is a false prophet

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

In the end times there will be an awful lot of people that will end up following the anti christ while they think they will be following jesus. Make of that what you will.
You better be 200% sure of your beliefs because this is not a game, this is quite serious, with quite serious implications.

The Almighty has no need, no purpose; there's no gratification of setting anyone up to burn or be forgotten into the Abyss. But there are many nasty parasites. They thrive on wounding others, taking as much as they can—greed—lying all the time and instigating man against man, race against race, gender against gender.

The Almighty does not need to set anyone up. But that spineless snake does. So the mark of the beast will be enforced, but you'll have a choice whether to break the law and refuse or accept and be inserted into that beast collective.

The Almighty sees all that makes the Devil jealous. He, too, wants to see all. Ugh.

 

[Ryan]

JFL, my younger brother was reading a hadith and it was describing how mohammed would suck on his 9 year old wife's tongue as well as how she used to clean his cumstains. Fucking muslim-cels act so high and mighty but forget mohammed would be classed as a fucking degen in 2021

hadiths are devils work stop using those shitty narrations to attack muhammad
i know that u cant do it using the koran so u take help from narration written hundred of years after death of muhammad by his enemies

 

[Deleted member 14905]

All these cumskins and niggers hating on Islam, When they never read the quran or actually understand the meaning of the hadiths

 

[Deleted member 16582]

The Almighty has no need, no purpose; there's no gratification of setting anyone up to burn or be forgotten into the Abyss. But there are many nasty parasites. They thrive on wounding others, taking as much as they can—greed—lying all the time and instigating man against man, race against race, gender against gender.

The Almighty does not need to set anyone up. But that spineless snake does. So the mark of the beast will be enforced, but you'll have a choice whether to break the law and refuse or accept and be inserted into that beast collective.

The Almighty sees all that makes the Devil jealous. He, too, wants to see all. Ugh.

Youre always talking out of your ass jim, do you believe the earth is flat or no?
Punishment is for our sake jimmy boy, we learn from it, and Allah wants us to learn from our sins, it is out of love of course. These parasites you speak of are the satan and his slaves (be they man or jinn), our job to turn to Allah and not to be fooled by the devil, not to fall for this dajjal/anti christ/nwo/beast system.
You need to get your head out of your ass and read the Quran jimmy, theres not much time left for conveniences such as arrogance and ignorance.

 

[Deleted member 16582]

hadiths are devils work stop using those shitty narrations to attack muhammad
i know that u cant do it using the koran so u take help from narration written hundred of years after death of muhammad by his enemies

Some hadith are definitely legit, those people like sam gerrans or people in quran alone type mentality take it to the extreme too much and ignore the valuable resource due to their arrogance and stubborness, on the other side you have people that take to it too strongly and not critically enough to point of disregarding quran itself even too much.

 

[Ryan]

Some hadith are definitely legit, those people like sam gerrans or people in quran alone type mentality take it to the extreme too much and ignore the valuable resource due to their arrogance and stubborness, on the other side you have people that take to it too strongly and not critically enough to point of disregarding quran itself even too much.

yh true but im personally koran alone

the rule is that dont be a sheep and be critical like the koran says "dont they reason"? "dont they think"?

 

[Ryan]

Mohammad is a false prophet

 

[Ryan]

Make another one listing 10 reasons why "Allah" is a bastardized version of the true God, and why Muhammed was a false prophet.

Mohammad is a false prophet

keep crying for muhammad

 

[Deleted member 16582]

yh true but im personally koran alone

the rule is that dont be a sheep and be critical like the koran says "dont they reason"? "dont they think"?

Not a reason to disregard hadith,

My mind got swayed too when I came across sam gerrans in regards to hadith but I took it more seriously and started praying 5x and all that when I realized that evil jinn working for satan are against even the religion islam and practices like such ritual prayers, I had my personal experiences with that often with praying so even if I had some doubts about some things in hadith I understood that it is not to be disregarded completely.
Hadith also contain a lot of valuable information on healing black magic and jinn possessions and such things, so for a person afflicted with such things it is a valuble resource to give one example. Ultimately the quran is the primary cure for such things but hadith go into some ways of how to use the quran for it and some other practices like hijama. Thats just one specific thing though, hadith contain a lot of things about a lot of topics of course.

There are definitely a lot of deceptions and such in the religion islam though, take the crescent moon symbol thing, and how those anti islam people use that as an argument explaining how allah is moon god and all that and how it is a pagan thing etc, In a jinn interrogation video a person was inquiring about the symbol and the jinn associated with it admitted how it is a deceptive satanic symbol that they incorporated into the religion and that it has nothing to do with islam and in reality attract negative jinn like how figures of living things in a room do as well. We shouldnt blindly take in what jinn have to say of course, jinn dont know everything they are humans like us and can be confused and deceived too but I found it insightful non the less in this case.

The jinn interrogation thing im talking about is something called jinn catching that a sheikh does, basically he has a subject that has previously been afflicted by black magic or jinn possession in his life, this leaves an opening in that persons spiritual shield so to speak so that it is easier for such things to enter the person again, then the sheikh makes the intention to catch jinn that relate to a particular topic. For example nwo agenda, lgbtq agenda stuff, vaccinations, covid, political matters etc basically jinn that are involved in these things in the spiritual world in their own ways, like how zionist humans or freemasons may be taking part in it in our world, jinn are heavily involved in everything too (evil jinn that are astray and obey satan that is).
Anyway he makes the intention and then recites SuraBaqara, Verse 148 over and over which means "Wherever you are, Allah will bring you all. Allah is certainly powerful over everything." And then somehow it pulls the jinn into the person, then he interrogates the jinn relating to the topic and then converts them to become muslim or if they are stubborn and dont then he kills them.
Same person that wrote the document I put in the thread btw.
Although this practice of jinn catching is controversial to some people in islamic community I think its legit and the jinns definitely confirm a lot of things that we already know about secret societies and their rituals and what not.
here is his channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC19i7wQPzMhXTZ9zZk8vpWw

these are some good videos:
I put on high speed and skip through the reciting repetetive parts to make it more watchable.






vaccines are neatly packaged sorcery and its production involves sorcerers. No surprise.

Be critical when u listen to what these jinn say about these things, these jinn even if they are involved dont know everything and may only understand a part of the picture like I said, theyre like humans in that regard, theyre not some kind of powerful all knowing high up beings, dont forget this.

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

Youre always talking out of your ass jim, do you believe the earth is flat or no?
Punishment is for our sake jimmy boy, we learn from it, and Allah wants us to learn from our sins, it is out of love of course. These parasites you speak of are the satan and his slaves (be they man or jinn), our job to turn to Allah and not to be fooled by the devil, not to fall for this dajjal/anti christ/nwo/beast system.
You need to get your head out of your ass and read the Quran jimmy, theres not much time left for conveniences such as arrogance and ignorance.

Such a trifle little mind you have and fragile heart of disturbing pride. And so, as you venture deeper into the 'what the fucks,' you realize you haven't budged in this life. As if what you believe is merely a massive delusion of grandeur projected by families you can never touch. A pawn in their agenda. "We'll have it all and rule the Earth!" Ugh. Tsk tsk tsk. And when you die, you do not get any virgin souls. I guarantee you. But what you will get is a chance at redemption in Purgatory.

 

[Deleted member 16582]

Such a trifle little mind you have and fragile heart of disturbing pride. And so, as you venture deeper into the 'what the fucks,' you realize you haven't budged in this life. As if what you believe is merely a massive delusion of grandeur projected by families you can never touch. A pawn in their agenda. "We'll have it all and rule the Earth!" Ugh. Tsk tsk tsk. And when you die, you do not get any virgin souls. I guarantee you. But what you will get is a chance at redemption in Purgatory.

At this point I am quite convinced you are either a jinn on the internet or some kind of AI bot, cant imagine a human being being so deranged to keep up this act for this long.

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

At this point I am quite convinced you are either a jinn on the internet or some kind of AI bot, cant imagine a human being being so deranged to keep up this act for this long.

You're not getting any wishes so stop with this pathetic tease of yours. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

[Marsiere214]

keep crying for muhammadView attachment 1461851

 

[Deleted member 16134]

Would be true in the 1700s but women have rights now

 

[BigJimsWornOutTires]

Ugh, a despicable religion indeed. No wonder why they strive to wear holy white. They're filthy with disgusting sins. "B-but we're special and better because we pray 5 times a day!" Pathetic. Why do we continue to entertain these clowns of the world? Because we have a heart. We care. Yet these people feel exceptional because of that.

I'm embarrassed for communicating with them on here. I feel dirty now. Unclean.

 

[Ryan]

hadiths are devils work stop using those shitty narrations to attack muhammad
i know that u cant do it using the koran so u take help from narration written hundred of years after death of muhammad by his enemies

 

[Deleted member 12002]

You better be 200% sure of your beliefs because this is not a game, this is quite serious, with quite serious implications.

I could say the exact same thing to you.

 

[Deleted member 12002]

keep crying for muhammadView attachment 1461851

Oh he's crying plenty enough for himself in hell.

 

[Marsiere214]

@Ryan No. The Quran won't make sense without the Hadith and Sira because they provide the context. The verses in The Quran are mixed. They are not written in the order they were revealed and also the verses jump from one event to another and some refer to events also mentioned in The Bible or The Torah.

 

[Ryan]

@Ryan No. The Quran won't make sense without the Hadith and Sira because they provide the context. The verses in The Quran are mixed. They are not written in the order they were revealed and also the verses jump from one event to another and some refer to events also mentioned in The Bible or The Torah.

jfl u r acting like u know more than me who has read koran..it claims to be complete and dont need context...i never had problem reading it so dont use this hadith card on me
i dont take hadith as any kind of authority so dont tell me what to believe

 

[Ryan]

@Ryan No. The Quran won't make sense without the Hadith and Sira because they provide the context. The verses in The Quran are mixed. They are not written in the order they were revealed and also the verses jump from one event to another and some refer to events also mentioned in The Bible or The Torah.

some verses for a coper like u
koran orders the believers to uphold one hadith/narration which is koran itself

 

[Marsiere214]

some verses for a coper like u
koran orders the believers to uphold one hadith/narration which is koran itself
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jfl u r acting like u know more than me who has read koran..it claims to be complete and dont need context...i never had problem reading it so dont use this hadith card on me
i dont take hadith as any kind of authority so dont tell me what to believe

I see the koran the same way u see the hadiths. I dont take korean as any kind of authority so dobt tell me what to believe

 

[Deleted member 16582]

It seems the high moral and goodness white sentences in the thread post triggered the darkened degenerate Lust addicted souls of the people here and made them to cry for Islam with their shallow statements.
Discuss the point of this thread, it applies to anyone who believes in an almighty creator and sin/good and bad. If you want to cry for Islam then make a separate thread where we can all gather together and be amused by your foolishness and ignorance.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

It seems the high moral and goodness white sentences in the thread post triggered the darkened degenerate Lust addicted souls of the people here and made them to cry for Islam with their shallow statements.
Discuss the point of this thread, it applies to anyone who believes in an almighty creator and sin/good and bad. If you want to cry for Islam then make a separate thread where we can all gather together and be amused by your foolishness and ignorance.

You did well brother, I’m Christian myself but respect you for your fight in god, after all we worship the same God of Abraham at the end. It’s long but what you said is true

 

[Anyanglover]

you can be chaste all you want but you will go to hell for worshipping muhammed.muhammed was the biggest degenerate ever,saying its okay to fondle a babies pussy.islam allows sex with BABIES.you can molest them,and if you have intercourse with them its a sin but a minor one and no sharia punishment.

muhammed married a 6 year old girl,molested her and then raped her at age 9.

 

[Anyanglover]

You did well brother, I’m Christian myself but respect you for your fight in god, after all we worship the same God of Abraham at the end. It’s long but what you said is true

youre not a christian.jews worship zeer anpin and muslims worship a snake demon.

 

[Deleted member 16582]

you can be chaste all you want but you will go to hell for worshipping muhammed.muhammed was the biggest degenerate ever,saying its okay to fondle a babies pussy.islam allows sex with BABIES.you can molest them,and if you have intercourse with them its a sin but a minor one and no sharia punishment.

muhammed married a 6 year old girl,molested her and then raped her at age 9.

You have marinated completely in your own ignorance and spite. I'm not even gonna respond to this. Astafgirullah.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

youre not a christian.jews worship zeer anpin and muslims worship a snake demon.

Christianity comes from ancient Hebrew you retard Islam also comes from ancient Hebrew we worship the same god you nit wit

 

[Deleted member 16582]

Christianity comes from ancient Hebrew you retard Islam also comes from ancient Hebrew we worship the same god you nit wit

I dont get people that argue about this, there is no other god to worship, there is only The One, The Almighty, The most High, the Creator It should be pretty self evident when one is worshipping an idol or lower entity vs when one is worshipping the Almighty Creator. In the beginning of time people didnt have religion or names for God like we have today, yet they still believed in the Almighty, this is an innate trait we have when we are brought into this world but modern society that satan constructed gets this out of us. Animals worship and have faith in Allah, even trees and all that exists, only for us humans and jinns we have free will because this life is a test for us so its possible for us to lose faith and all that because of our free will.

There is no creature moving on the earth, nor a bird flying on its two wings, but they all are communities like you. We have not missed anything in the Book. Then, to their Lord they shall be gathered together. 6:38

“Do you not see that to Allah prostrates whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth and the sun, the moon, the stars, the mountains, the trees, the moving creatures and many of the people? But upon many the punishment has been justified. And he whom Allah humiliates - for him there is no bestower of honor. Indeed, Allah does what He wills.” - (The Holy Qur’an 22:18)

The seven heavens, the earth, and all those in them glorify Him. There is not a single thing that does not glorify His praises—but you ˹simply˺ cannot comprehend their glorification. He is indeed Most Forbearing, All-Forgiving. 17:44

Do you not see that Allah is glorified by all those in the heavens and the earth, even the birds as they soar? Each ˹instinctively˺ knows their manner of prayer and glorification. And Allah has ˹perfect˺ knowledge of all they do. 24:41

"It was He who created all that is on the earth for you, then turned to the sky and made the seven heavens; it is He who has knowledge of all things. " (Qur'an 2:29) - One day you will understand that this life is a story, a theater, a play created for us by Allah, perhaps you will also come to understand the true nature of our earth and true cosmology, this will further get through the idea of it being like a theater created by God once the ideas of infinite random universe and evolution theory and all that are eliminated. But thats another topic
“Know that the life of this world is but amusement and diversion and adornment and boasting to one another and competition in increase of wealth and children – like the example of a rain whose [resulting] plant growth pleases the tillers; then it dries and you see it turned yellow; then it becomes [scattered] debris. And in the Hereafter is severe punishment and forgiveness from Allah and approval. And what is the worldly life except the enjoyment of delusion.” (Quran 57:20)

 

[Anyanglover]

I dont get people that argue about this, there is no other god to worship, there is only The One, The Almighty, The most High, the Creator It should be pretty self evident when one is worshipping an idol or lower entity vs when one is worshipping the Almighty Creator. In the beginning of time people didnt have religion or names for God like we have today, yet they still believed in the Almighty, this is an innate trait we have when we are brought into this world but modern society that satan constructed gets this out of us. Animals worship and have faith in Allah, even trees and all that exists, only for us humans and jinns we have free will because this life is a test for us so its possible for us to lose faith and all that because of our free will.

the most high is a trinity,with the son incarnated in human body and thus eternally human and God,as the bible says the messiah will be called eternal father,strong God,prince of peace.you don't worship the father because you say its haram to call him a father.the israelites always thought of Yahweh as a Trinity,the three 'angels'that appeared to the patriarchs were the trinity and the bible describes yahweh raining down destruction from yahweh in heavem.the jews also don't worship the true God,they believe in ain sof a void energy and numerous male and female dieties or energies derived from it with 100s of partzufim or persons,for them even satan and his wife lilith are aspects of Yahweh.

Allah also is not a monotheistic God,he is not identical with his attributes or names in the ashari school,and although he is in maturidi school the attributes are not one simple existance so there are numerous gods .only catholci and protestant christianity are monotheistic,believing god is his attributes but that they are one actus purus.

and in Nicene council and st.athanasius and refomers and catholics,the trinity isd one actual(non generic or non abstract..one noncomposite essence in quantity not qualitiative sense like a tritheist)essence and one intellect in a numerical sense in three eternal aspects of that intellect(a weaker definition of 'person' in philosophy) memory(father),self recognition(son)and self love or desire(the spirit)just like the human mind or spirit.


so the muslim lie that christians dont believe in Tawheed is BS




Isaiah 53 also predicts Jesus' atonement and ressurection contrary to jews and muslims that twist the scripture and the hebrew words


and daniel 9 predicts the exact timing of jesus coming and his death

“Seventy weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.

Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of the Messiah the Prince there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with streets and a trench, but in a troubled time. And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing.

And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed.” (Daniel 9:24-26)

ה הִנֵּה יָמִים בָּאִים נְאֻם-יְהוָה, וַהֲקִמֹתִי לְדָוִד צֶמַח צַדִּיק; וּמָלַךְ מֶלֶךְ וְהִשְׂכִּיל, וְעָשָׂה מִשְׁפָּט וּצְדָקָה בָּאָרֶץ.
ו בְּיָמָיו תִּוָּשַׁע יְהוּדָה, וְיִשְׂרָאֵל יִשְׁכֹּן לָבֶטַח; וְזֶה-שְּׁמוֹ אֲשֶׁר-יִקְרְאוֹ, יְהוָה צִדְקֵנוּ. {פ}	6}

“Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will raise up for David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell securely. And this is the name by which he will be called: ‘YHWH is our righteousness.’” (Jeremiah 23:5-6)

“I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him. And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed.” (Daniel 7:13-14)

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I dont get people that argue about this, there is no other god to worship, there is only The One, The Almighty, The most High, the Creator It should be pretty self evident when one is worshipping an idol or lower entity vs when one is worshipping the Almighty Creator. In the beginning of time people didnt have religion or names for God like we have today, yet they still believed in the Almighty, this is an innate trait we have when we are brought into this world but modern society that satan constructed gets this out of us. Animals worship and have faith in Allah, even trees and all that exists, only for us humans and jinns we have free will because this life is a test for us so its possible for us to lose faith and all that because of our free will.

I used to think Muslims worshiped the moon as well it’s long but I was deep into conspiracy theories but here’s the joke the moon crescent symbolism in Islam can directly be traced back to Turks and the Ottomans in particular. Many Christians think the crescent moon is a religious symbolism but it is cultural as a sign of Ottoman and Turkish power.

the Turks were the most powerful Muslim kingdom and this used this flag to project strength and unity amongst other Muslim rulers to unite against the infidel that’s where it comes from.

but many think Muslims pray to a moon god which just isn’t true, now the Kabba on the other hand I understand because preying towards that can be seen as idolatry but as we know Muslims aren’t praying to the Kabba but just in the direction of the Kabba

 

[Anyanglover]

Christianity comes from ancient Hebrew you retard Islam also comes from ancient Hebrew we worship the same god you nit wit

judaism isnt the hebrew religion.jews are monists http://www.kabbalah.info/eng/content/view/frame/59238?/eng/content/view/full/59238&main

muslism worship lucifer according to jesus's words to the prophets,it was lucifer that gave the quran to muhammed the suicidal crossdresser gay pedophile

 

[Anyanglover]

I used to think Muslims worshiped the moon as well it’s long but I was deep into conspiracy theories but here’s the joke the moon crescent symbolism in Islam can directly be traced back to Turks and the Ottomans in particular. Many Christians think the crescent moon is a religious symbolism but it is cultural as a sign of Ottoman and Turkish power.

the Turks were the most powerful Muslim kingdom and this used this flag to project strength and unity amongst other Muslim rulers to unite against the infidel that’s where it comes from.

but many think Muslims pray to a moon god which just isn’t true, now the Kabba on the other hand I understand because preying towards that can be seen as idolatry but as we know Muslims aren’t praying to the Kabba but just in the direction of the Kabba

debunked nonsense..... keep sucking off to your beheaders and wife enslavers and pedophiles that lust after your beloved white children just like how they raped 6 year old yazidi girls..hell they RAPE THEIR OWN islamic girls as young as 4 in islamic states.they call it nikah.they think its holy.they are a people of the sword created only to destroy christians by satan.the eastern antichrist..you WILL go to HELL forever if you dont repent for your blasphemy and compromizes and ecumenism.

read quran 9:29 the LAST ayah revealed to muhammed the gay(sucking on young boys tongues) crossdresser

 

[Anyanglover]

You have marinated completely in your own ignorance and spite. I'm not even gonna respond to this. Astafgirullah.

you have no answers.''molesting a 6 year old girl isnt pedophilia broders,it was the custom back then...)

reality:

Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.
Quran 65:4

The `Iddah of Those in Menopause and Those Who do not have Menses Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. [see 2:228] The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause. This is the meaning of His saying.
The `Iddah of Those in Menopause and Those Who do not have Menses (Qur'an 65:4)
Tafsir Ibn Kathir
Here, one should bear in mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Quran the question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom marriage may have been consummated, for there is no waiting-period in case divorce is pronounced before the consummation of marriage. (Al-Ahzab: 49). Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for the girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl in marriage at this age but it is also permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Quran has held as permissible.
Commentary on Qur'an Chapter 65:4
Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi, Tafhim al-Qur'an
Surah al-Talaaq 65:4: If a woman does not menstruate, either because she is very young or old and past menopause, then her ‘iddah is three months, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the ‘Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses (i.e. they are still immature) their ‘Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise.[1]
Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen, Majmoo’at As’ilah tahumm al-Usrah al-Muslimah, p. 61-63
And [as for] those of your women who (read allā'ī or allā'i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age, their period shall [also] be three months - both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, in this world and in the Hereafter.
Qur'an 65:4
Tafsir al-Jalalayn
(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! "What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?” (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months." Another man asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?” (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.
Qur'an 65:4
Tafsir Ibn Abbas
(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate and the woman who has not menstruated yet? And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.
Qur'an 65:4
Al-Wahidi, Asbab al-nuzul
The interpretation of the verse "And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses (i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise". He said: The same applies to the 'idaah for girls who do not menstruate because they are too young, if their husbands divorce them after consummating the marriage with them.
Tafsir Al-Tabari, 14/142
In the following quote, the bold text translates as “They are those who haven’t reached the age of menstruation”. Tabrasi comments on the phrase “Wallaee Lam yahidhna” = “Those who have not menstruated yet” in the verse.

{ واللآئي لم يحضن } تقديره واللآئي لم يحضن إن ارتبتم فعدتهن أيضاً ثلاثة أشهر وحذف لدلالة الكلام الأول عليه وهن اللواتي لم يبلغن المحيض ومثلهن تحيض على ما مرَّ بيانه.

Qur'an 65:4
Tabrasi
In the following quote, the bold part translated as: “Those who have not menstruated yet” are young girls who have not reached the age of menstruation.

{ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلَـٰثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَٱللاَّئِى لَمْ يَحِضْنَ } لصغرهن، وعدم بلوغهن سن المحيض، أي: فعدتهن ثلاثة أشهر

Qur'an 65:4
Al-Shoukani, Fath al-Qadir
Hadith
Quotes from Imam Bukhari's hadith collection, regarding verse 65:4.

CCCLXXXIV: The Tafsir of Surat at-Talaq

Mujahid said that "if you have any doubt" (65:4) means if you do not know whether she menstruates or not. Those who do not longer menstruate and those who have not yet menstruated, their 'idda is three months.
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Chapter 68: Book of Tafsir
The following is from Bukhari's chapter introduction for chapter 39, Book an-Nikkah. It appears immediately before the first and only hadith of Chapter 39, Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64 and can be seen in the Dar-us-Salam print edition, volume 7.

Giving one’s young children in marriage (is permissible) by virtue of the Statement of Allah: ‘And for those who have courses’ (i.e. they are still immature) (Sura 65:4) And the ‘Iddat [waiting period for a woman before lawful sexual intercourse] for the girl before puberty is three months (in the above Verse).
Bukhari (Chapter 39)
The following is from Fath al-Bari, the most authoritative commentary on Sahih Al-Bukhari.

واللائي لم يحضن , فجعل عدتها ثلاثة أشهر قبل البلوغ ) ‏ ‏أي فدل على أن نكاحها قبل البلوغ جائز

"and those who never had menses, their prescribed period is three months before puberty, which indicates that giving her into marriage before puberty is permissible."
Al-Islam.com (Arabic)
Recent fatwas
December 2010 fatwa from popular Islamic website.

The Noble Qur'an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying: "And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated" [Qur'an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur'an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet (PBUH) entered into a marriage contract with A'isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.
Is it permissible to restrict the age at which girls can marry?
Submitted by Ahmad, IslamOnline, December 24, 2010
Getting married at an early age is something that is confirmed by the book of Allah, the Sunnah of his Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam), the consensus of the scholars and the actions of the companions, and the Muslims who came after them.
Moreover, the interest of Shariah proves it. So the claim that this was abrogated is not correct. And the Hadith did not include that meaning; it just states that a virgin woman is not to be married until consulted.

The evidence from the Qur'an is:

1. The saying of Allah: "And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]". (At-Talaq 65:4)

So, Allah set rulings of marriage, divorce and waiting period for the women who have not yet had menses, i.e. the young girls.

The Iddah (waiting period) does not take place except after marriage.
Child marriage in Islam
Islamweb, Fatwa No. 88089, June 24, 2004

 

[Anyanglover]

Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, visited Umm Salama while she was in mourning for Abu Salama and she had put aloes on her eyes. He said, "What is this, Umm Salama?" She said, "It is only aloes, Messenger of Allah." He said, "Put it on at night and wipe it off in the daytime."

Malik said, "The mourning of a young girl who has not yet had a menstrual period takes the same form as the mourning of one who has had a period. She avoids what a mature woman avoids if her husband dies."

Malik said, "A slave-girl mourns her husband when he dies for two months and five nights like her idda.

Malik said, "An umm walad does not have to mourn when her master dies, and a slave-girl does not have to mourn when her master dies. Mourning is for those with husbands."
Al-Muwatta 29:108
Miscellaneous
"It was narrated by Ahmed that a man came to him that feared that he would ejaculate while he was fasting. Ahmed said: "What I see is that he can release semen without ruining the fast, he can masturbate using his hands or the hands of his wife, If he has an "Ammah" whether be it a girl or a little child, she can masturbate for him using her hands, and if she was a non-believer, he can sleep with her without releasing (his semen), if he released it in her, it becomes impermissible".
Bada'i al-Fuwa'id of Ibn Qayyim, page 603
The scholars are unanimously agreed that a father may marry off his young daughter without consulting her. The Messenger of Allaah married ‘Aa’ishah bint Abi Bakr when she was young, six or seven years old, when her father married her to him.[2]
Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr, Al-Istidhkaar, 16/49-50
It is incorrect to say that it's not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger. A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong and they are being unfair to her.

We hear a lot in the media about the marriage of underage girls. We should know that Shariah law has not brought injustice to women.[3]
Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh
Our mothers and before them our grandmothers married when they were barely 12. Good upbringing makes a girl ready to perform all marital duties at that age.[4]
Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh
A nine-year-old girl has the same sexual capacities like a woman of twenty and over.[5]
Skeikh Mohamed Ibn Abderrahmane Al-Maghraoui
The marriage of nine-year-old girls is not forbidden because according to the Hadith (the Prophet Mohammed's sayings), Mohammed married Aisha when she was only seven-years-old and he consummated his union when she was nine.[6]
Sheikh Mohamed Ben Abderrahman Al-Maghraoui
According to the Shari'ah, if a girl is a minor (did not attain puberty), she may be given in marriage by her father. When she attains puberty, she has the right to maintain the marriage or discontinue the marriage. There is no age limit to be intimate with one's wife even if she is a minor.
I would like to marry a woman who is 12 years old, her father and she has also agreed. What is your advise?
Islamic Q & A Online with Mufti Ebrahim Desai, Ask-Imam, Question No. 6737
Child marriage in Islam is permissible. In the Koran there is no specific age of marriage...[If the government imposed new laws against child marriage] There will be violent conflict from the Muslims, saying that 'no, we will not accept this, we'd rather die than accept something which is not a law from Allah.'[7]
Ahmed Sani Yerima, former governor and current senator of Zamfara State, Nigeria
Nigeria has many uncountable problems and none of them is early marriage. As a matter of fact early marriage (is) the solution to about half of our problems. For those who wonder if I can give my daughter(s) out in marriage at the age of 9 or 13, I tell you most honestly, I can give her out at the age of 6 if I want to and it’s not your business. This is because I am a Muslim and I follow the example of the best of mankind, Muhammad ﺻَﻠَّﻰ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻋَﻠَﻴْﻪِ ﻭَﺳَﻠَّﻢَ...
Ahmed Sani Yerima, former governor and current senator of Zamfara State, Nigeria[8]
...it is permitted to contract marriage with a young girl and to hand her over to her husband to stay with him before she reaches adolescence.
Ruling on marrying young women
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid, Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 1493
You can have a marriage contract even with a 1-year-old girl, not to mention a girl of 9, 7 or 8. But is the girl ready for sex or not? What is the appropriate age for sex for the first time? This varies according to environment and tradition.[9][10]
Dr. Ahmad al-Mu’bi, Saudi marriage officiant
Everything that is not forbidden is permitted. [The new law in Yemen that set the minimum marriage age at 17] is a Western plot aimed at Westernizing our culture. The West wants to teach us how to marry, conceive and divorce. This is cultural colonization that we reject.[11]
Sheik Mohammed al-Hazmi, a legislator in Yemen, 2009
Because this happened to the Prophet, we cannot tell people that it is prohibited to marry at an early age.[12]
Sheikh Hamoud Hashim al-Tharihi, general secretary of the Vice and Virtue Committee and member of the Islah Party in Yemen
...it is permitted to contract marriage with a young girl and to hand her over to her husband to stay with him before she reaches adolescence.
Ruling on marrying young women
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid, Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 1493
m3.13 Guardians are of two types, those who may compel their female charges to marry someone, and those who may not.

The only guardians who may compel their charge to marry are a virgin bride's father or father's father, compel meaning to marry her to a suitable match (def: m4) without her consent.
Those who may not compel her are not entitled to marry her to someone unless she accepts and gives her permission.

Whenever the bride is a virgin, the father or father's father may marry her to someone without her permission, though it is recommended to ask her permission if she has reached puberty. A virgin's silence is considered as permission.[13]
Reliance of the Traveller: The Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law
...If she is married without her permission, by threat or coercion, then the marriage is not valid. The only exeption is in the case of the father and his daughter who is less than nine years of age. There is no harm if he gets her married while she is less than nine years old, according to the correct opinion. This is based on the messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) marrying Aisha without her consent when she was less than nine years old, as is stated in authentic Hadith...[14]
Shaikh ibn Baz's answer on the Q & A site of the Muslim Students Organization of the University of Houston
Scholars have discussed at length the marriage of a young girl who has not attained puberty and whether her father may marry her away without her permission. If such a marriage takes place it is valid. However, it is perhaps best if the marriage is not allowed to be consummated until the girl attains puberty, when she is given the choice whether to continue with this marriage or not.[15]
Adil Salahi
Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, who also married minor Ayesha, when she was just eight years old. The new law [seeking to ban child marriages] initiated by the current government [of Bangladesh] will put the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge. Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.[16]
Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini

 

[Atem Rah]

Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, visited Umm Salama while she was in mourning for Abu Salama and she had put aloes on her eyes. He said, "What is this, Umm Salama?" She said, "It is only aloes, Messenger of Allah." He said, "Put it on at night and wipe it off in the daytime."

Malik said, "The mourning of a young girl who has not yet had a menstrual period takes the same form as the mourning of one who has had a period. She avoids what a mature woman avoids if her husband dies."

Malik said, "A slave-girl mourns her husband when he dies for two months and five nights like her idda.

Malik said, "An umm walad does not have to mourn when her master dies, and a slave-girl does not have to mourn when her master dies. Mourning is for those with husbands."
Al-Muwatta 29:108
Miscellaneous
"It was narrated by Ahmed that a man came to him that feared that he would ejaculate while he was fasting. Ahmed said: "What I see is that he can release semen without ruining the fast, he can masturbate using his hands or the hands of his wife, If he has an "Ammah" whether be it a girl or a little child, she can masturbate for him using her hands, and if she was a non-believer, he can sleep with her without releasing (his semen), if he released it in her, it becomes impermissible".
Bada'i al-Fuwa'id of Ibn Qayyim, page 603
The scholars are unanimously agreed that a father may marry off his young daughter without consulting her. The Messenger of Allaah married ‘Aa’ishah bint Abi Bakr when she was young, six or seven years old, when her father married her to him.[2]
Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr, Al-Istidhkaar, 16/49-50
It is incorrect to say that it's not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger. A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong and they are being unfair to her.

We hear a lot in the media about the marriage of underage girls. We should know that Shariah law has not brought injustice to women.[3]
Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh
Our mothers and before them our grandmothers married when they were barely 12. Good upbringing makes a girl ready to perform all marital duties at that age.[4]
Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh
A nine-year-old girl has the same sexual capacities like a woman of twenty and over.[5]
Skeikh Mohamed Ibn Abderrahmane Al-Maghraoui
The marriage of nine-year-old girls is not forbidden because according to the Hadith (the Prophet Mohammed's sayings), Mohammed married Aisha when she was only seven-years-old and he consummated his union when she was nine.[6]
Sheikh Mohamed Ben Abderrahman Al-Maghraoui
According to the Shari'ah, if a girl is a minor (did not attain puberty), she may be given in marriage by her father. When she attains puberty, she has the right to maintain the marriage or discontinue the marriage. There is no age limit to be intimate with one's wife even if she is a minor.
I would like to marry a woman who is 12 years old, her father and she has also agreed. What is your advise?
Islamic Q & A Online with Mufti Ebrahim Desai, Ask-Imam, Question No. 6737
Child marriage in Islam is permissible. In the Koran there is no specific age of marriage...[If the government imposed new laws against child marriage] There will be violent conflict from the Muslims, saying that 'no, we will not accept this, we'd rather die than accept something which is not a law from Allah.'[7]
Ahmed Sani Yerima, former governor and current senator of Zamfara State, Nigeria
Nigeria has many uncountable problems and none of them is early marriage. As a matter of fact early marriage (is) the solution to about half of our problems. For those who wonder if I can give my daughter(s) out in marriage at the age of 9 or 13, I tell you most honestly, I can give her out at the age of 6 if I want to and it’s not your business. This is because I am a Muslim and I follow the example of the best of mankind, Muhammad ﺻَﻠَّﻰ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻋَﻠَﻴْﻪِ ﻭَﺳَﻠَّﻢَ...
Ahmed Sani Yerima, former governor and current senator of Zamfara State, Nigeria[8]
...it is permitted to contract marriage with a young girl and to hand her over to her husband to stay with him before she reaches adolescence.
Ruling on marrying young women
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid, Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 1493
You can have a marriage contract even with a 1-year-old girl, not to mention a girl of 9, 7 or 8. But is the girl ready for sex or not? What is the appropriate age for sex for the first time? This varies according to environment and tradition.[9][10]
Dr. Ahmad al-Mu’bi, Saudi marriage officiant
Everything that is not forbidden is permitted. [The new law in Yemen that set the minimum marriage age at 17] is a Western plot aimed at Westernizing our culture. The West wants to teach us how to marry, conceive and divorce. This is cultural colonization that we reject.[11]
Sheik Mohammed al-Hazmi, a legislator in Yemen, 2009
Because this happened to the Prophet, we cannot tell people that it is prohibited to marry at an early age.[12]
Sheikh Hamoud Hashim al-Tharihi, general secretary of the Vice and Virtue Committee and member of the Islah Party in Yemen
...it is permitted to contract marriage with a young girl and to hand her over to her husband to stay with him before she reaches adolescence.
Ruling on marrying young women
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid, Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 1493
m3.13 Guardians are of two types, those who may compel their female charges to marry someone, and those who may not.

The only guardians who may compel their charge to marry are a virgin bride's father or father's father, compel meaning to marry her to a suitable match (def: m4) without her consent.
Those who may not compel her are not entitled to marry her to someone unless she accepts and gives her permission.

Whenever the bride is a virgin, the father or father's father may marry her to someone without her permission, though it is recommended to ask her permission if she has reached puberty. A virgin's silence is considered as permission.[13]
Reliance of the Traveller: The Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law
...If she is married without her permission, by threat or coercion, then the marriage is not valid. The only exeption is in the case of the father and his daughter who is less than nine years of age. There is no harm if he gets her married while she is less than nine years old, according to the correct opinion. This is based on the messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) marrying Aisha without her consent when she was less than nine years old, as is stated in authentic Hadith...[14]
Shaikh ibn Baz's answer on the Q & A site of the Muslim Students Organization of the University of Houston
Scholars have discussed at length the marriage of a young girl who has not attained puberty and whether her father may marry her away without her permission. If such a marriage takes place it is valid. However, it is perhaps best if the marriage is not allowed to be consummated until the girl attains puberty, when she is given the choice whether to continue with this marriage or not.[15]
Adil Salahi
Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, who also married minor Ayesha, when she was just eight years old. The new law [seeking to ban child marriages] initiated by the current government [of Bangladesh] will put the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge. Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.[16]
Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini

dnr

 

[Anyanglover]

dnr

YOURE A PEDOPHILE THATS WHY.

MUSLIM MEN ARE PEDOPHILES!

 

[Anyanglover]

MUSLIM MEN SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED IN CHRISTIAN LANDS.....UNLESS THEY DENOUNCE OPENLY THE PEDOPHILIA AND QURAN 9:29

 

[Deleted member 16582]

@Anyanglover I wonder why I have never felt the need, let alone thought of "exposing christianity" or uncovering all the flaws of the bible and christian belief and what not, it appears I am only concerned with talking about the Quran.
Truth will reveal itself to those whom the Almighty guides, my job is simply to put it out there, not to shove it down peoples throats and to tell them how wrong and deceptive their religion is (even if I were to present it with arguments and evidence)

If you are doing things for your faith in the name of christianity then tell people about christianity, if is the truth then it will become obvious to people who read it and who'm God guides.

You are so obsessed with islam being this satanic, pedo religion and what not, you sperg and insult like a triggered demon and write ignorance and baseless arguments.

Focus on your own religion, because getting so caught up in your arrogance and spite will blind you and make a fool out of yourself, and when you decide it is appropriate to start saying blasphemous things to our holy book and to our prophet (saw) then you are digging yourself into a very dark pit, so I urge you to reavaluate your beliefs and your approaches to things because you are responsible for everything you say, doesnt matter if its on your favorite incel forum or wherever.

You are blinded by your passions to the point that you dont see things as they are, you see them as you want to see them.

 

[Anyanglover]

@Anyanglover I wonder why I have never felt the need, let alone thought of "exposing christianity" or uncovering all the flaws of the bible and christian belief and what not, it appears I am only concerned with talking about the Quran.
Truth will reveal itself to those whom the Almighty guides, my job is simply to put it out there, not to shove it down peoples throats and to tell them how wrong and deceptive their religion is (even if I were to present it with arguments and evidence)

If you are doing things for your faith in the name of christianity then tell people about christianity, if is the truth then it will become obvious to people who read it and who'm God guides.

You are so obsessed with islam being this satanic, pedo religion and what not, you sperg and insult like a triggered demon and write ignorance and baseless arguments.

Focus on your own religion, because getting so caught up in your arrogance and spite will blind you and make a fool out of yourself, and when you decide it is appropriate to start saying blasphemous things to our holy book and to our prophet (saw) then you are digging yourself into a very dark pit, so I urge you to reavaluate your beliefs and your approaches to things because you are responsible for everything you say, doesnt matter if its on your favorite incel forum or wherever.

You are blinded by your passions to the point that you dont see things as they are, you see them as you want to see them.

I HATED christianity and didn't want it to be true,I found apologetics press and the scholarship on the bible's preservation and I gave up my prejudices against the word.

keep ignoring everything I said above.you can't argue against it.islam is a evil religion.

and quran hasnt been preserved unlike the bible



there are thousands of variants between quran wich change the meaning

 

[Deleted member 16582]

I HATED christianity and didn't want it to be true,I found apologetics press and the scholarship on the bible's preservation and I gave up my prejudices against the word.

keep ignoring everything I said above.you can't argue against it.islam is a evil religion.

and quran hasnt been preserved unlike the bible



there are thousands of variants between quran wich change the meaning

I understand discussing these specifics with you is pointless.
Something I posted elsewhere:

the only things that happen are those that Allah allowed to happen, so satan creating all that stuff to deceive people included, evolution theory included, all these arguments and counter arguments for evolution included, these discussions always seem so on edge, as if there is such a thin line between that people dance around while arguing without really getting anywhere. I think Allah made for all this to be because it is a text, if there is one thing I learned its that sometimes discussions and arguments are futile, that ultimately a person will choose their belief, that the person who seeks for something will ALWAYS find it, so if a person looks for an argument to support his belief, he will always find it, and Allah will always allow for it to be there. Because that is the test, if I said a few things and they instantly clicked in you and it was a spiritual experience and you had infinite faith in Allah then it wouldnt be much of a test would it. This is our life in a nutshell, in islam we believe the purpose of our existence is to worship Allah, one could interpret this many ways but if you ask me there is no greater worship than having faith in Allah no matter what, in having faith in Allah and the path and story that Allah intended for you to live out. So despite all these tests of faith, these doubts and everything that will happen in your life and will continue to happen (I get them too often), despite that to keep your faith strong and to keep doing what you believe is right and good in the name of Allah that is the ultimate worship.
Anyway just a thought that occured to me, now to respond to your post.

Explain to me how I am worshipping satan by being a muslim and believing in Allah.
I have a clear understanding and distinction of satan/iblis and Allah the creator, iblis is the evil one thats trying to bring mankind into hell, the one that these secret societies are worshipping in secret and doing the bidding of, Allah is simply God in arabic, Allah is the One, the almighty, the most high, the creators of the heavens and the earth, how am I worshipping satan by having faith in Allah and giving up all wordly desires in worship of our Lord?

7:9 And those whose scales are light – they are the ones who will lose themselves for what injustice they were doing toward Our verses.

17:46 And We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And when you mention your Lord alone in the Qur’an, they turn back in aversion.

29:47 And thus We have sent down to you the Qur’an. And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture believe in it. And among these [people of Makkah] are those who believe in it. And none reject Our verses except the disbelievers.

16:53-54 And whatever you have of favor – it is from Allah. Then when adversity touches you, to Him you cry for help.
Then when He removes the adversity from you, at once a party of you associates others with their Lord

46:26 Indeed, We had established them1 in a way We have not established you ˹Meccans˺. And We gave them hearing, sight, and intellect. But neither their hearing, sight, nor intellect were of any benefit to them whatsoever, since they persisted in denying Allah’s signs. And ˹so˺ they were overwhelmed by what they used to ridicule.

6:33-34 We know that you, [O Muhammad], are saddened by what they say. And indeed, they do not call you untruthful, but it is the verses of Allah that the wrongdoers reject.
And certainly were messengers denied before you, but they were patient over [the effects of] denial, and they were harmed until Our victory came to them. And none can alter the words of Allah. And there has certainly come to you some information about the [previous] messengers.

Let me ask you a question, do you believe the earth is flat?

 

[Anyanglover]

I understand discussing these specifics with you is pointless.
Something I posted elsewhere:


Explain to me how I am worshipping satan by being a muslim and believing in Allah.
I have a clear understanding and distinction of satan/iblis and Allah the creator, iblis is the evil one thats trying to bring mankind into hell, the one that these secret societies are worshipping in secret and doing the bidding of, Allah is simply God in arabic, Allah is the One, the almighty, the most high, the creators of the heavens and the earth, how am I worshipping satan by having faith in Allah and giving up all wordly desires in worship of our Lord?



Let me ask you a question, do you believe the earth is flat?

if you don't worship the creator(The Trinity one God of israel)You are worshipping the devil,as the devil created every nonchristian religion and even catholicism and orthodoxy.he who is not for him is against him.
Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. matthew 12:30

islam says that Jesus is a mere human ,and that he didn't die on the cross.thats satanic.

muslims say they love Jesus,but its a false jesus no different than the Urantia book or Jesus of yogananda.

 

[Deleted member 16582]

if you don't worship the creator(The Trinity one God of israel)You are worshipping the devil,as the devil created every nonchristian religion and even catholicism and orthodoxy.he who is not for him is against him.
Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. matthew 12:30

islam says that Jesus is a mere human ,and that he didn't die on the cross.thats satanic.

muslims say they love Jesus,but its a false jesus no different than the Urantia book or Jesus of yogananda.

"the trinity, one god" which one is it?

Do you believe the earth is flat or no

 

[Anyanglover]

"the trinity, one god" which one is it?

Do you believe the earth is flat or no

Eternal Father son holy spirit Modalism is completely monotheistic in a quantitative sense ,tard.

 

[Deleted member 16582]

Eternal Father son holy spirit Modalism is completely monotheistic in a quantitative sense ,tard.

What do you mean with tard?
Are you calling me a retard, dont get ahead of yourself, you dont know who you are talking to on the internet, its best to stay respectful instead of using the comfort and safety of your room to speak to people however you like, our words and actions will always come back to us somehow, doesnt matter how safe you feel when you are saying or doing them.

In any case, it just sounds like you're trying to worship one God but you got tricked into idolatry, read the Quran. All your answers are in there.

I am fairly certain you have a christian demon in you that is against islam, hence why you have this irrational and delusional passion of spite for islam, however you developed it if you say you were muslim at first.

Anyway since you didnt answer my question Im gonna assume you've fallen for satans deception and dont believe in a flat earth, I suggest you look into this because if you consider yourself as an awake of a christian as you do then you should become aware of this.
Both bible and quran teach this but in the bible it is much more often mentioned and more clear so there is no shadow of a doubt, read book of enoch too.

8 He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap; he seats them with princes and has them inherit a throne of honor. “For the foundations of the earth are the LORD’s; on them he has set the world.
He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth.

He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.

24 for he views the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens.

3 He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth.

18 can you join him in spreading out the skies, hard as a mirror of cast bronze?

8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

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[Lorsss]

muslim-cel cope tbh. Mohammed literally had sex slaves

The prophet could afford multiple wives (even 9 year old jailbaits) and had many concubines. The situation was similar for other upper class men of his society.

What about his followers who were too poor to afford a wife?
www.incels.wiki/w/muslimcel

 

[Magical Apple]

Make another one listing 10 reasons why "Allah" is a bastardized version of the true God, and why Muhammed was a false prophet.

I support central asian governments and their crackdown on radical islam.