Test Cycle, Ordered from ***

[views]

Pre summer stack is Reta, MT2, Var, and PT 141

that is lowkey peak. reta and var is like bread and butter u could lean out while doing jack shit on ts stack.

 

[chot]

I’m talking low-standard dose telmi not to totally tank BP but to protect against left ventricular hypertrophy.

Telmisartan blocks the AT1 receptor, which reduces the effects of angiotensin II on the heart.

It’s not just about BP but about cardiac remodeling.

youre not listening, you are starting to sound autistic with this obsession abt lvh. it is literally biologically impossible to grow your heart in your first few weeks on gear. it literally doesnt happen and cant happen. heart hypertrophy is from heavy androgen cycles with unregulated bp for years.
telmisartan when you dont need it will always be unhealthy and unsafer than just running gear for a couple weeks then taking telmi when you need it. its not rocket science. just ask any ai chat bot, they cant recommend ancillaries more and they still say to only take arbs when you need it.

 

[BR32]

that is lowkey peak. reta and var is like bread and butter u could lean out while doing jack shit on ts stack.

you can goon all day and look insane on this stack and 300 test

this plus upper lower 4x a week and being blonde is gonna feed families this summer

whore summer incoming

 

[BR32]

youre not listening, you are starting to sound autistic with this obsession abt lvh. it is literally biologically impossible to grow your heart in your first few weeks on gear. it literally doesnt happen and cant happen. heart hypertrophy is from heavy androgen cycles with unregulated bp for years.
telmisartan when you dont need it will always be unhealthy and unsafer than just running gear for a couple weeks then taking telmi when you need it. its not rocket science. just ask any ai chat bot, they cant recommend ancillaries more and they still say to only take arbs when you need it.

thank you for educating me

I was getting overly mechanistic which is a flaw.

You're right

 

[chadisbeingmade]

no, I get that. Once you pin ED, e2 is way more controlled and you keep a lot of the bloat away.

But still anecdotally, a lot of people tend to give the edge to P in regards to water retention for some reason (even when comparing same admnistration frequencies)

@chadisbeingmade knows abt this.

But I might be wrong though…

The release and clearance times can definitely make a different in downstream responses. Everything about the propionate ester is much closer to what your natural day to day testosterone production would be like.

You don't need to bulk

Just eat a maintenance or +100kcal

Excess calories don't drive muscle tissue accrual

TikTok retard detected.

 

[RichardSpencel]

you reckon I could get this off indiamart rather than WWB? i cbf to pay another $50 shipping fee for these two

WWB is crazy low price ,probably the same as Tracy or SSA had for test but I accidentally ordered 30 Vials of test P instead of 3 because I thought they must be only 1ML per vial

Starting first cycle shipping says it’s due tomorrow,gonna die from rat piss poisoning hopefully

 

[Sepsin]

The release and clearance times can definitely make a different in downstream responses. Everything about the propionate ester is much closer to what your natural day to day testosterone production would be like.



TikTok retard detected.

what surplus would you recommend?

I’m thinking on staying at +300kcal during the whole cycle

As soon as I plateau I’ll just increment the dose but maintain the cals.

 

[scylla]

The order:
Test P 200mg x 5 vials
HCG 5000IU x 10 vials
Aromasin (Exemestane) 25mg x 100 tablets
Tadanafil (Cialis) 20mg x 100 tablets
BAC Water 10x10ml
[ $223 with shipping ]

Plan:
70mg Test P daily
250IU HCG eod
16 week cycle


@BR32 @Nexom @lebesgue

No supplements?

 

[Orka]

No supplements?

no, why?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

what surplus would you recommend?

I’m thinking on staying at +300kcal during the whole cycle

As soon as I plateau I’ll just increment the dose but maintain the cals.

When you plateau you increase calories, not drugs. Plateau? Increases calories. Body composition improving? Yes. Ok continue till plateau again. Plateau? Ok, increase calories. Body comp improving? Ok good continue. Whatever. You keep doing that till you plateau, increase calories, but body composition isn’t improving. That’s when drugs are becoming the limiting factor and you would need to increase them to continue a good rate of progression. That isn’t to say you can’t increase gear before you max out gains at a certain dosage, but it wasn’t the limiting factor/wasn’t needed.

 

[BR32]

When you plateau you increase calories, not drugs. Plateau? Increases calories. Body composition improving? Yes. Ok continue till plateau again. Plateau? Ok, increase calories. Body comp improving? Ok good continue. Whatever. You keep doing that till you plateau, increase calories, but body composition isn’t improving. That’s when drugs are becoming the limiting factor and you would need to increase them to continue a good rate of progression. That isn’t to say you can’t increase gear before you max out gains at a certain dosage, but it wasn’t the limiting factor/wasn’t needed.

I’m not advocating against an increase I calories I guess the semantics are meaningless.

I just mean blindly eating in a surplus isn’t a good practice and is why people get fat on anabolics.

You’re gonna have to increase calories as bw goes up.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

You’re gonna have to increase calories as bw goes up.

Just eat a maintenance

What you said doesn't make sense at all. You can't eat at maintenance and increase in bodyweight simultaneously. If your body weight has increased, you have eaten in a calorie surplus.

I just mean blindly eating in a surplus isn’t a good practice and is why people get fat on anabolics.

If that is what you mean then fine, but maintenance or +100kcals is not a good way to progress as all when using AAS. It is a is a great way to get nowhere at all, especially if you are starting from a lean state like you should.

 

[BR32]

What you said doesn't make sense at all. You can't eat at maintenance and increase in bodyweight simultaneously. If your body weight has increased, you have eaten in a calorie surplus.


If that is what you mean then fine, but maintenance or +100kcals is not a good way to progress as all when using AAS. It is a is a great way to get nowhere at all, especially if you are starting from a lean state like you should.

My point got lost in my shitty articulation.

What I was trying to say was that calories are not a growth stimulus. Yes you need calories and adequate macro/micro profiles for growth but it’s not the growth stimulus.

They are a permissive requirement for growth.
You gotta have em.

This was just an emotional response to a 4200 calorie growth cycle I saw where someone gained 40lbs of fat.

 

[scylla]

no, why?

To reduce the risk of kidney, heart, liver damage and maintain collagen in your skin because AAS will rape your collagen. To reduce oxidative stress, not being able to sleep at night etc and to reduce LDL

 

[Orka]

To reduce the risk of kidney, heart, liver damage and maintain collagen in your skin because AAS will rape your collagen. To reduce oxidative stress, not being able to sleep at night etc and to reduce LDL

My skin will be fine, I'm doing 6mg ghk on the side in general

The other risks are significantly over exaggarated