test would still close ur growth plates even with ai even if u keep e2 low

[darodiddler]

i was wondering if they still close the growth plates by 200 test i resarched abt it a little it said it still would even if u control ur 2 levels by local aromtizatio nor wtv that bs is it

-It works by local estrogen conversion happening inside the growth plate tissues and blood tests will still miss it?

-direct androgenc fusion test binding directly to androgen receptors in the cartilage to close the plates without needing estrogen (Receptor Activation)

-Chondrocyte Senescenc blastin test will force the cells in cartilage in growthplates to age and die fastly means they can only divide number of times before your bones close

is this true? idk is there other shit to stop it from happnin?


and im not sure abt the direct andrognec fusion it might just be acclerating the potiental u were getting idont really know



@Faustum

 

[dragomog]

dont do 200 do 500

 

[darodiddler]

dont do 200 do 500

NIGGER its gona fuck my growth plates im not 5"11 like you i dont wanna be 5"7 forever i can maybe reach 5'9

 

[dragomog]

NIGGER its gona fuck my growth plates im not 5"11 like you i dont wanna be 5"7 forever i can maybe reach 5'9

then dont do gear theres always a risk u wont grow

ur already overthinkimg so dont do it

i do it cuz im low inhib af and dont give a fuuck

 

[Y30p]

dont do 200 do 500

350 better roi

 

[N0TP4BLO08]

i was wondering if they still close the growth plates by 200 test i resarched abt it a little it said it still would even if u control ur 2 levels by local aromtizatio nor wtv that bs is it

-It works by local estrogen conversion happening inside the growth plate tissues and blood tests will still miss it?

-direct androgenc fusion test binding directly to androgen receptors in the cartilage to close the plates without needing estrogen (Receptor Activation)

-Chondrocyte Senescenc blastin test will force the cells in cartilage in growthplates to age and die fastly means they can only divide number of times before your bones close

is this true? idk is there other shit to stop it from happnin?

I'm not 1000% sure but one of my friends ran 250 test with letrozol for a abt more than half and growth plate closure didnt seem to look like they were closing faster, looked relatively the same. Maybe a lil more test too

 

[2s2f]

350 better roi

new avi is really good

 

[darodiddler]

then dont do gear theres always a risk u wont grow

ur already overthinkimg so dont do it

i do it cuz im low inhib af and dont give a fuuck

yeah im just gona do ai tbh and nigga ur way fucking taller so yeah any one would be

 

[itsover4rishy]

dont do 200 do 500

is 500 for 4 months enough to see progrss but not rape my plates

 

[darodiddler]

it wo

is 500 for 4 months enough to see progrss but not rape my plates

i think it would most likely to rape ur plates idk

 

[darodiddler]

bump

 

[itsover4rishy]

it wo

i think it would most likely to rape ur plates idk

im 15, was gonna run NAAAS but too many sides and cant afford too run it sustainbly, probably gonna get a job over the summer holidays

 

[N0TP4BLO08]

yeah im just gona do ai tbh and nigga ur way fucking taller so yeah any one would b

i was wondering if they still close the growth plates by 200 test i resarched abt it a little it said it still would even if u control ur 2 levels by local aromtizatio nor wtv that bs is it

-It works by local estrogen conversion happening inside the growth plate tissues and blood tests will still miss it?

-direct androgenc fusion test binding directly to androgen receptors in the cartilage to close the plates without needing estrogen (Receptor Activation)

-Chondrocyte Senescenc blastin test will force the cells in cartilage in growthplates to age and die fastly means they can only divide number of times before your bones close

is this true? idk is there other shit to stop it from happnin?


and im not sure abt the direct andrognec fusion it might just be acclerating the potiental u were getting

Forget to mention in other reply but ais COULD lead to faster growth plate closure if you abruptly stop talking the pills instead of lowering dose overtime

 

[darodiddler]

im 15, was gonna run NAAAS but too many sides and cant afford too run it sustainbly, probably gonna get a job over the summer holidays

ngl bro u would still need a test base even if u run NAAAS i think

 

[darodiddler]

Forget to mention in other reply but ais COULD lead to faster growth plate closure if you abruptly stop talking the pills instead of lowering dose overtime

oh yes i know about that thats called estrogen rebound true its gona fuck you up so bad

 

[N0TP4BLO08]

oh yes i know about that thats called estrogen rebound true its gona fuck you up so bad

Yeah but I don't think you should stress it that much, especially if your on a steroidal one like aromasin, because it fully kills the aromatizer or wtv. But letrozols prolly best aromas inhib imo for slowing growth plate closure+ test boost

 

[darodiddler]

Yeah but I don't think you should stress it that much, especially if your on a steroidal one like aromasin, because it fully kills the aromatizer or wtv. But letrozols prolly best aromas inhib imo for slowing growth plate closure+ test boost

bruh i know about that even if u keep ur e2 at low local aromtization would still happen inside the bone tissue growth plates even wtih ai i think u cant control it if u take test look into it more



It works by local estrogen conversion happening inside the growth plate tissues and blood tests will still miss it?

-direct androgenc fusion test binding directly to androgen receptors in the cartilage to close the plates without needing estrogen (Receptor Activation)

-Chondrocyte Senescenc blastin test will force the cells in cartilage in growthplates to age and die fastly means they can only divide number of times before your bones close

this one

 

[itsover4rishy]

oh yes i know about that thats called estrogen rebound true its gona fuck you up so bad

unless ur taking aromasin, youll be chillin

 

[darodiddler]

unless ur taking aromasin, youll be chillin

ng it doesnt atter much rebound happens in like a month or something

 

[darodiddler]

@Faustum what areur toughts

 

[cowmuncher26]

thats why you run low dose test 100mg max and high dose dht derivatives

 

[darodiddler]

thats why you run low dose test 100mg max and high dose dht derivatives

they say theres also a thing called direct androgenic fusing? what abt that brah

and which dht deriatives do u reomend?

 

[cowmuncher26]

they say theres also a thing called direct androgenic fusing? what abt that brah

and which dht deriatives do u reomend?

the process of “direct androgenic fusing” is so slow it’s basically negligible

masteron is probably the best one out of all

 

[darodiddler]

the process of “direct androgenic fusing” is so slow it’s basically negligible

masteron is probably the best one out of all

how slow? my plates are not much open but ion wanna close them im short and ghd my plates are bit open

ehh wouldnt mast make me bald so fast? also it isnt androgenic it wouldnt make me taller brah idk tbh what to use rn

or should i wait till my plates fuse? but it wont have much effect as at the time to use rn right?

 

[cowmuncher26]

how slow? my plates are not much open but ion wanna close them im short and ghd my plates are bit open

ehh wouldnt mast make me bald so fast? also it isnt androgenic it wouldnt make me taller brah idk tbh what to use rn

if you’ve got good genes it won’t make you bald and if it will you will be norwood 2 after about 2-3 cycles
it increases height velocity because it behaves like dht

mark as solution pls

 

[darodiddler]

@moggin

moggin​

 

[darodiddler]

@Faustum

 

[ropemaxxer00]

No they wont lol its the opposite it accelerates height growtj

 

[darodiddler]

No they wont lol its the opposite it accelerates height growtj

explain

 

[darodiddler]

@Finncelchud

 

[ropemaxxer00]

explain

No correlation between test that doesnt aromatise and premature growth plate closure

 

[Finncelchud]

@Finncelchud

I highly doubt that 200 test will close your growth plates, especially if you have a low e2

 

[darodiddler]

No correlation between test that doesnt aromatise and premature growth plate closure

look u fucking retard estrogen is what causes premature growh plate closure i know, that blasting androgens will still prematruely close ur growth plates First, an AI cannot fully block local aromatization even if its 0,

Your cartilage cells have the aromatase enzyme right inside them They take testosterone from your blood and convert it into even with ai u cant control that aromtose enzyme

estrogen locally right inside the growth plate. This means the fusion process still triggers from the inside out, even if a blood test says your overall estrogen is zero its still going to aromtize in ur growh plates and close them prematruely

how the fuck do i remove this shitty ass font omg

and second of all most improtant :

your growth plates contain direct Androgen Receptors if u flood them and fill them with steroids forces the cartilage stem cells to divide at an accelerated pace which is gona kill the cells and die out early without a proper shit

 

[darodiddler]

look u fucking retard estrogen is what causes premature growh plate closure i know, that blasting androgens will still prematruely close ur growth plates First, an AI cannot fully block local aromatization even if its 0,

Your cartilage cells have the aromatase enzyme right inside them They take testosterone from your blood and convert it into

estrogen locally, right inside the growth plate. This means the fusion process still triggers from the inside out, even if a blood

test says your overall estrogen is zero how the fuck do i remove this shitty ass font omg

and second of all most improtant :

your growth plates contain direct Androgen Receptors if u flood them and fill them with steroids forces the cartilage stem cells to divide at an accelerated pace which is gona kill the cells and die out early without a proper shit

@Finncelchud

 

[ropemaxxer00]

look u fucking retard estrogen is what causes premature growh plate closure i know, that blasting androgens will still prematruely close ur growth plates First, an AI cannot fully block local aromatization even if its 0,

Your cartilage cells have the aromatase enzyme right inside them They take testosterone from your blood and convert it into even with ai u cant control that aromtose enzyme

estrogen locally right inside the growth plate. This means the fusion process still triggers from the inside out, even if a blood test says your overall estrogen is zero its still going to aromtize in ur growh plates and close them prematruely

Okay brother first up:
Even if an AI cant fully block local aromatization, linical trials using aromatase inhibitors like letrozole or anastrozole together with testosterone in pubertal boys consistently show delayed bone maturation and increased predicted adult height despite elevated testosterone levels. This directly contradicts the idea that local aromatization inside growth plate chondrocytes can’t be suppressed enough, the net effect of systemic AI is reduced estrogen signaling at the plate, slowing fusion.
Second:even tho growth plates have Androgen receptors, Estrogen is the primary driver of growth plate senescence and fusion in males. Trials with testosterone + AI show that blocking aromatization slows bone maturation more than testosterone alone, despite high androgen levels. This indicates direct androgen receptor stimulation does not independently force early cartilage stem cell exhaustion when estrogen is controlled.
Source:https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9251633/

PRIME PubMed | Novel treatment of short stature with aromatase inhibitors

Estrogens have an essential role in the regulation of bone maturation and importantly in the closure of growth plates in both sexes. This prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled study was undertaken to evaluate whether suppression of estrogen synthesis in pubertal boys delays bone maturation...

www.unboundmedicine.com

 

[darodiddler]

Okay brother first up:
Even if an AI cant fully block local aromatization, linical trials using aromatase inhibitors like letrozole or anastrozole together with testosterone in pubertal boys consistently show delayed bone maturation and increased predicted adult height despite elevated testosterone levels. This directly contradicts the idea that local aromatization inside growth plate chondrocytes can’t be suppressed enough, the net effect of systemic AI is reduced estrogen signaling at the plate, slowing fusion.
Second:even tho growth plates have Androgen receptors, Estrogen is the primary driver of growth plate senescence and fusion in males. Trials with testosterone + AI show that blocking aromatization slows bone maturation more than testosterone alone, despite high androgen levels. This indicates direct androgen receptor stimulation does not independently force early cartilage stem cell exhaustion when estrogen is controlled.
Source:https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9251633/

PRIME PubMed | Novel treatment of short stature with aromatase inhibitors

Estrogens have an essential role in the regulation of bone maturation and importantly in the closure of growth plates in both sexes. This prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled study was undertaken to evaluate whether suppression of estrogen synthesis in pubertal boys delays bone maturation...

www.unboundmedicine.com

nigger ur reading an abstract of the paper without looking at the actual data and it was only tiny doses that used in that trial,

in that specifc study boys who were given microscopic medical dose of test at exactly 1mg//kg every four weeks which is like 15mg a week just slowly to jumpmart normal puberty.



U CANNOT COMPARE A TINY 15mg of test weekly to someone blasting hundreds of test or heavy androgens



SECOND MOST IMPORTANT THING: even on those tiny micro dosses the follow up data showed 45% of the boys on letrozole developed spinal bone deformities because crushing estrgoen destroyes bone structure if tiny medical doses causes spinal deformties ,



AND BLASTING actualy gymcel cycles with ai is totaly diffrent and it will genuienly fuck u in the ass so hard and close ur growth

45% of the kids got spinal deformities just by a microscopic mg of test and ai

 

[darodiddler]

nigger ur reading an abstract of the paper without looking at the actual data and it was only tiny doses that used in that trial,

in that specifc study boys who were given microscopic medical dose of test at exactly 1mg//kg every four weeks which is like 15mg a week just slowly to jumpmart normal puberty.



U CANNOT COMPARE A TINY 15mg of test weekly to someone blasting hundreds of test or heavy androgens



SECOND MOST IMPORTANT THING: even on those tiny micro dosses the follow up data showed 45% of the boys on letrozole developed spinal bone deformities because crushing estrgoen destroyes bone structure if tiny medical doses causes spinal deformties ,



AND BLASTING actualy gymcel cycles with ai is totaly diffrent and it will genuienly fuck u in the ass so hard and close ur growth

45% of the kids got spinal deformities just by a microscopic mg of test and ai

guys rep me please