Testosterone is not the driving force behind muscle growth.

[Deusmaximus]

Frontiers | Muscle Androgen Receptor Content but Not Systemic Hormones Is Associated With Resistance Training-Induced Skeletal Muscle Hypertrophy in Healthy, Young Men

AbstractThe factors that underpin heterogeneity in muscle hypertrophy following resistance exercise training (RET) remain largely unknown. We examined circul...

www.frontiersin.org

 

[Deleted member 685]

Yeah androgen receptors is a huge factor

 

[hairyballscel]

what else besides l-carnitine upregulates AR?

 

[Chinacurry]

what else besides l-carnitine upregulates AR?

How much to take? I take 2g daily

 

[Chinacurry]

what else besides l-carnitine upregulates AR?

How much to take? I take 2g daily

 

[Mr.cope]

what else besides l-carnitine upregulates AR?

l carnitine can mess with thyroid and delay growth if youre still developing

 

[hairyballscel]

How much to take? I take 2g daily

6g is good i think

but at different times of the day, i read it isnt absorbed well all at once, so split up dosages into 3g and take them at times far from eachother
i could be wrong doe, im not knowledgeable about this shit

 

[hairyballscel]

l carnitine can mess with thyroid and delay growth if youre still developing

yh im not using it anytime anyway

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

suifuel for FINcels

 

[GamerCel]

dnr, sounds like giga cope

 

[Robust_Jock]

Frontiers | Muscle Androgen Receptor Content but Not Systemic Hormones Is Associated With Resistance Training-Induced Skeletal Muscle Hypertrophy in Healthy, Young Men

AbstractThe factors that underpin heterogeneity in muscle hypertrophy following resistance exercise training (RET) remain largely unknown. We examined circul...

www.frontiersin.org

So this explains why some guys say they "blew up" on 500mg test while for others It's barely noticeable.

 

[pizza]

the more testosterone you have better your receptors are, this is also true for estrogen receptors

 

[Deusmaximus]

the more testosterone you have better your receptors are, this is also true for estrogen receptors

But i think only if your levels are out of the natural reference range. People worry way to much about a small difference of 100-200ng/dl test level, when you would need levels +1200 to notice a difference.

 

[pizza]

But i think only if your levels are out of the natural reference range. People worry way to much about a small difference of 100-200ng/dl test level, when you would need levels +1200 to notice a difference.

this is what they want you to think, that small levels of 100-200 don't make a difference, so that people stop caring about keeping their levels as high as they can, 200 ng + of
testosterone make all the difference if you're natty,and natural reference range is cope,chads have 1200+ naturally

 

[TITUS]

Reminds me of Fat Bastard.

 

[Deleted member 9511]

suifuel for FINcels

But 5 alpha reductase enzymes are different than androgen receptors - it’s that there is less dht binding to the androgen receptor. If your other androgens bind to the receptors it shouldn’t be a difference right?
Maybe it’s autistic cope


Still though - Possibly upregulating scalp receptors is scary af for norwoodcels

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

But 5 alpha reductase enzymes are different than androgen receptors - it’s that there is less dht binding to the androgen receptor. If your other androgens bind to the receptors it shouldn’t be a difference right?
Maybe it’s autistic cope

read chemhead again
htpa will alter your steroid enzyme expression in the tissues

Still though - Possibly upregulating scalp receptors is scary af for norwoodcels

I think fin migt have permanently upregulated androgen receptors throughout all my body tissue . I build and hold onto muscle so easily now that I quit it. I have basically never seen that in anyone IRL
Just a theory though. Reverse androgenicity

 

[mgtowmadness]

I actually watched that last night..I take Carnitine for heart health..but thisis good now that I just started Gym

this is what they want you to think, that small levels of 100-200 don't make a difference, so that people stop caring about keeping their levels as high as they can, 200 ng + of
testosterone make all the difference if you're natty,and natural reference range is cope,chads have 1200+ naturally

I am 43 and have a 900 to 1,000 range..I think I was a chad in my youth but I did not know it..but I was also very skinny

 

[mgtowmadness]

That is a good video... I actually came across that last night..I almost posted it

 

[Deleted member 9511]

read chemhead again
htpa will alter your steroid enzyme expression in the tissues

I think fin migt have permanently upregulated androgen receptors throughout all my body tissue . I build and hold onto muscle so easily now that I quit it. I have basically never seen that in anyone IRL
Just a theory though. Reverse androgenicity

I remember you saying that after quiting fin your hair loss slowed for several years after - wouldn’t a reverse androgenicity response have expedited the loss?

 

[pizza]

I actually watched that last night..I take Carnitine for heart health..but thisis good now that I just started Gym

I am 43 and have a 900 to 1,000 range..I think I was a chad in my youth but I did not know it..but I was also very skinny

yes you were probably a chad, even if very skinny if you had good proportions with 10-12% BF you were a chad, your levels are great for the current age

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

I remember you saying that after quiting fin your hair loss slowed for several years after - wouldn’t a reverse androgenicity response have expedited the loss?

True yeah, but i was also on min almost all those years and that has anti androgenic properties topically at least

 

[lasthope]

read chemhead again
htpa will alter your steroid enzyme expression in the tissues

I think fin migt have permanently upregulated androgen receptors throughout all my body tissue . I build and hold onto muscle so easily now that I quit it. I have basically never seen that in anyone IRL
Just a theory though. Reverse androgenicity

Why you quit tho?

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

Why you quit tho?

Sides ofc
All of them basically

 

[lasthope]

Sides ofc
All of them basically

Did you try to reduce dosage?
sides went away?
What you do against hairloss now?

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

Did you try to reduce dosage?
sides went away?
What you do against hairloss now?

I’m sinsmaxxing

 

[audimax]

But i think only if your levels are out of the natural reference range. People worry way to much about a small difference of 100-200ng/dl test level, when you would need levels +1200 to notice a difference.

Then why do people start getting noobie gains again on TRT, not even a cycle dose? Of course its noticeable