THE BEST IMPLANT MATERIAL THAT YOUVE NEVER HEARD OF (or you might have idk)

[idont]

Woven polyester fiber implants are valued because of their porous properties which allow smooth sailing with craniofacial implants.

A certain material that I havent seen talked about here is Mersilene Mesh.

Spoiler: example 1

This is an old 14 year documentation of this implant material showing only an .8 percent infection rate!

An issue with this material is that it can't be used in every part of the face,


Common anatomical areas where its used are (or were previously used as stated later in the thread ):
-Mandible
-Chin
-Supraorbitals (although It wasnt that good for supras aesthetically)

"Mersiline Mesh is rigid relative to natural facial tissues, so it doesn’t conform well to delicate, complex curves of the midface"

Spoiler: example 2

IMO this material would seem very suitable for chin augmentation so I'm really not sure why its not commonly used.

Spoiler: example 3

Although your bones dont grow into the implant your soft tissue grows into the actual implant because its fibrous. This makes it suitable for to withstand the physiologic load of masticatory and facial mimetic forces.


The price of using the implants with this material is slightly cheaper than that of titanium or polypropelene polyester

Spoiler: THE MAIN CAVEAT

Unfortunately there's no surgeons that use this material anymore (well only offbrand/AFAIK there isnt)
They all switched to medpor/peek/titanium etc

My main question is why did surgeons drop using this when it had very good porous properties and low infection rates and good qualites in general

Spoiler: tags

@yussimania @Micrognathic @Idontknow- @BR32

 

[nunotherone]

dnr

 

[moid_user271k]

dnr , but it seems high effort

 

[idont]

dnr

please read it mommy
took me a whole 15 minutes

 

[nunotherone]

please read it mommy
took me a whole 15 minutes

otay i will

 

[carpe diem]

Woven polyester fiber implants are valued because of their porous properties which allow smooth sailing with craniofacial implants.

A certain material that I havent seen talked about here is Mersilene Mesh.

Spoiler: example 1

View attachment 4587464

This is an old 14 year documentation of this implant material showing only an .8 percent infection rate!

An issue with this material is that it can't be used in every part of the face,


Common anatomical areas where its used are (or were previously used as stated later in the thread ):
-Mandible
-Chin
-Supraorbitals (although It wasnt that good for supras aesthetically)

"Mersiline Mesh is rigid relative to natural facial tissues, so it doesn’t conform well to delicate, complex curves of the midface"

Spoiler: example 2

View attachment 4587498

IMO this material would seem very suitable for chin augmentation so I'm really not sure why its not commonly used.

Spoiler: example 3

View attachment 4587504
View attachment 4587506

Although your bones dont grow into the implant your soft tissue grows into the actual implant because its fibrous. This makes it suitable for to withstand the physiologic load of masticatory and facial mimetic forces.


The price of using the implants with this material is slightly cheaper than that of titanium or polypropelene polyester

Spoiler: THE MAIN CAVEAT

Unfortunately there's no surgeons that use this material anymore (well only offbrand/AFAIK there isnt)
They all switched to medpor/peek/titanium etc

My main question is why did surgeons drop using this when it had very good porous properties and low infection rates and good qualites in general

Spoiler: tags

@yussimania @Micrognathic @Idontknow- @BR32

The best is 3D Printed Hydroxyapatite

 

[moid_user271k]

did surgeons drop using this when it had very good porous properties and low infection rates and good qualites in general

am guessing this has sum to do with isreal

 

[idont]

The best is 3D Printed Hydroxyapatite

havent researched it but from what ive seen its good

 

[idont]

am guessing this has sum to do with isreal

you cracked the code son

 

[carpe diem]

havent researched it but from what ive seen its good

it's clearly the best, same minerals your bones are made of as well.

 

[idont]

it's clearly the best, same minerals your bones are made of as well.

yes i assume it has a low infection rate as your body wont reject it (usually)

is there any threads on this i can read or literature in general

 

[idont]

@yussimania
wake up and read my thread mommy

 

[yussimania]

The best is 3D Printed Hydroxyapatite

^^^

@idont should have included examples of the implant on patients

 

[idont]

^^^

@idont should have included examples of the implant on patients

for the woven polyester fiber implants?

shit ur right

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[idont]

@idont should have included examples of the implant on patients

whyd u think in general cosmetic surgeons stopped using this material for augmentation although it had very promising qualities

 

[yussimania]

whyd u think in general cosmetic surgeons stopped using this material for augmentation although it had very promising qualities

projection? shape? the actual support of the implant?

yeah you can have great stats like low infection risk and being osseconductive but what about the aesthetic result

 

[idont]

@yussimania

These are the results from the mentioned 14 year document

Spoiler: the 14 year document

The results look great and this is like 30 years ago bruh

 

[BR32]

@yussimania
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These are the results from the mentioned 14 year document

Spoiler: the 14 year document

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The results look great and this is like 30 years ago bruh

Holy ascension.

So why did use ever phased out?

 

[idont]

Holy ascension.

So why did use ever phased out?

this is what im saying it looks great
low risk

like cmon son

should i tag the big boss (bossman) for thoughts

 

[BR32]

this is what im saying it looks great
low risk

like cmon son

should i tag the big boss (bossman) for thoughts

Go for it

Maybe we’re retarded

 

[idont]

@bossman
give thoughts please (actually read it im stuck)

 

[BR32]

@bossman
give thoughts please (actually read it im stuck)

My guess is if they stopped using it it wa: because other materials perform better, are easier to remove, or are safer somehow

 

[idont]

My guess is if they stopped using it it wa: because other materials perform better, are easier to remove, or are safer somehow

i would say yes, titanium/custom 3d implants are better performers but

nowadays these woven polyester mesh implants would be alot cheaper

and they ARE safer from what ive seen

 

[yussimania]

this is what im saying it looks great
low risk

like cmon son

should i tag the big boss (bossman) for thoughts

Irreversibility: Because the woven structure allows tissue to grow into the fibers, the implants became "cemented" into the face. If an infection occurred or the patient was unhappy, removal was extremely destructive and often caused nerve damage.

Erosion: Over time, the stiff, woven fabric could erode through the skin (extrusion) or thin out the underlying bone (resorption).

Inflammatory Reaction: It often triggered a chronic "foreign body reaction," leading to late-stage swelling, redness, and fibrosis (unnatural hardening of the facial tissue)

 

[idont]

i would say yes, titanium/custom 3d implants are better performers but

nowadays these woven polyester mesh implants would be alot cheaper

and they ARE safer from what ive seen

nerve damage and infection rates are lower

 

[VampyrMaxx]

People say titanium attracts waves causing headaches, Im way more inclined towards peek implants

 

[idont]

Irreversibility: Because the woven structure allows tissue to grow into the fibers, the implants became "cemented" into the face. If an infection occurred or the patient was unhappy, removal was extremely destructive and often caused nerve damage.

Erosion: Over time, the stiff, woven fabric could erode through the skin (extrusion) or thin out the underlying bone (resorption).

Inflammatory Reaction: It often triggered a chronic "foreign body reaction," leading to late-stage swelling, redness, and fibrosis (unnatural hardening of the facial tissue)

from the cases ive read yes reversing it is impossible but yet i would be willing to take the risk since its sooo low but idk

resportion rates werent even reported in a 14 patient case from what ive read and it was less than 1 percent in the 14 year documentation (i think its in the 14 year doc)

and same with the foreign body reaction its very biocompatible within its properties

 

[idont]

People say titanium attracts waves causing headaches, Im way more inclined towards peek implants

peek is expensive asf which turns me off from them
and its not suitable for certain parts of the face

but yes theyre fucking amazing at what they do in their use case

 

[idont]

@yussimania can u also ask bossman to give his thoughts

he just egos me since im a lowiq dark blue

 

[yussimania]

from the cases ive read yes reversing it is impossible but yet i would be willing to take the risk since its sooo low but idk

resportion rates werent even reported in a 14 patient case from what ive read and it was less than 1 percent in the 14 year documentation (i think its in the 14 year doc)

and same with the foreign body reaction its very biocompatible within its properties

just save up and do peek - safest option

 

[idont]

just save up and do peek - safest option

yes ur 100 percent right peek is better but

why would they completely stop using it?

only thing that i havent verified is erosion and from what ive read they didnt report it

if u find it shoot me a msg

 

[1966Ford]

I hope Ramieri implement this type of material..

 

[idont]

I hope Ramieri implement this type of material..

right,

you see the potential though it makes me wonder why they dropped it.

this shows that woven polyester materials are the future bhai

 

[idont]

otay i will

thoughts?

 

[1966Ford]

right,

you see the potential though it makes me wonder why they dropped it.

this shows that woven polyester materials are the future bhai

Netanyahu is reason why they dropped it. Can't let the goyim be a statusmaxxed Chad as him

 

[idont]

Netanyahu is reason why they dropped it. Can't let the goyim be a statusmaxxed Chad as him

son

why does everyone keep talm bout big bibi like i wont rock they shit

Spoiler: ....

please ben dont hurt my family

 

[idont]

@bossman would u be so kind as to share your thoughts?

 

[bddcoper]

seems legit nice thread

 

[idont]

seems legit nice thread

thank you bhai

might be the only non goyslop thread i ever created,

just waiting for bossmans thoughts on this

 

[idont]

Woven polyester fiber implants are valued because of their porous properties which allow smooth sailing with craniofacial implants.

A certain material that I havent seen talked about here is Mersilene Mesh.

Spoiler: example 1

View attachment 4587464

This is an old 14 year documentation of this implant material showing only an .8 percent infection rate!

An issue with this material is that it can't be used in every part of the face,


Common anatomical areas where its used are (or were previously used as stated later in the thread ):
-Mandible
-Chin
-Supraorbitals (although It wasnt that good for supras aesthetically)

"Mersiline Mesh is rigid relative to natural facial tissues, so it doesn’t conform well to delicate, complex curves of the midface"

Spoiler: example 2

View attachment 4587498

IMO this material would seem very suitable for chin augmentation so I'm really not sure why its not commonly used.

Spoiler: example 3

View attachment 4587504
View attachment 4587506

Although your bones dont grow into the implant your soft tissue grows into the actual implant because its fibrous. This makes it suitable for to withstand the physiologic load of masticatory and facial mimetic forces.


The price of using the implants with this material is slightly cheaper than that of titanium or polypropelene polyester

Spoiler: THE MAIN CAVEAT

Unfortunately there's no surgeons that use this material anymore (well only offbrand/AFAIK there isnt)
They all switched to medpor/peek/titanium etc

My main question is why did surgeons drop using this when it had very good porous properties and low infection rates and good qualites in general

Spoiler: tags

@yussimania @Micrognathic @Idontknow- @BR32

@mohi_100 sorry for the tag i just wanna know ur thoughts

 

[mohito]

@mohi_100 sorry for the tag i just wanna know ur thoughts

Fibers are easier to work with for surgeons, but mersilene mesh seems to have higher durability. I believe titanium mesh provides the highest structural support

 

[idont]

Fibers are easier to work with for surgeons, but mersilene mesh seems to have higher durability. I believe titanium mesh provides the highest structural support

yes you are right but this doesnt correlate to dropping the polyester in its entirety

@yussimania
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These are the results from the mentioned 14 year document

Spoiler: the 14 year document

View attachment 4587616

The results look great and this is like 30 years ago bruh

and it looks great aesthetically

not a single surgeon uses this at all anymore isnt that weird? (not even eppley considers it)

 

[ccwb]

Woven polyester fiber implants are valued because of their porous properties which allow smooth sailing with craniofacial implants.

A certain material that I havent seen talked about here is Mersilene Mesh.

Spoiler: example 1

View attachment 4587464

This is an old 14 year documentation of this implant material showing only an .8 percent infection rate!

An issue with this material is that it can't be used in every part of the face,


Common anatomical areas where its used are (or were previously used as stated later in the thread ):
-Mandible
-Chin
-Supraorbitals (although It wasnt that good for supras aesthetically)

"Mersiline Mesh is rigid relative to natural facial tissues, so it doesn’t conform well to delicate, complex curves of the midface"

Spoiler: example 2

View attachment 4587498

IMO this material would seem very suitable for chin augmentation so I'm really not sure why its not commonly used.

Spoiler: example 3

View attachment 4587504
View attachment 4587506

Although your bones dont grow into the implant your soft tissue grows into the actual implant because its fibrous. This makes it suitable for to withstand the physiologic load of masticatory and facial mimetic forces.


The price of using the implants with this material is slightly cheaper than that of titanium or polypropelene polyester

Spoiler: THE MAIN CAVEAT

Unfortunately there's no surgeons that use this material anymore (well only offbrand/AFAIK there isnt)
They all switched to medpor/peek/titanium etc

My main question is why did surgeons drop using this when it had very good porous properties and low infection rates and good qualites in general

Spoiler: tags

@yussimania @Micrognathic @Idontknow- @BR32

DNR, seem like worthy but dnr

 

[idont]

DNR, seem like worthy but dnr

just read the thread uncle i promise its worthit and interesting

unless you wanna go back to the latest threads page and read recycled goyslop

 

[mohito]

yes you are right but this doesnt correlate to dropping the polyester in its entirety

and it looks great aesthetically

not a single surgeon uses this at all anymore isnt that weird? (not even eppley considers it)

I think it's because of fibrotic ingrowth caused by polyester, it's highly reactive

 

[ccwb]

just read the thread uncle i promise its worthit and interesting

unless you wanna go back to the latest threads page and read recycled goyslop

Read it, done.

 

[idont]

I think it's because of fibrotic ingrowth caused by polyester, it's highly reactive

can u show some literature cuz from the studies ive read it fibrosis wasnt a problem for this material
it actually was very biocompatible and had >1 percent complications including infection nerve damage and the body rejecting it as a foreign substance

 

[idont]

can u show some literature cuz from the studies ive read it fibrosis wasnt a problem for this material
it actually was very biocompatible and had >1 percent complications including infection nerve damage and the body rejecting it as a foreign substance

wait no maybe not nerve damage im wrong,
that was a little higher

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

My main question is why did surgeons drop using this when it had very good porous properties

I think you answered your own question.

 

[mohito]

can u show some literature cuz from the studies ive read it fibrosis wasnt a problem for this material
it actually was very biocompatible and had >1 percent complications including infection nerve damage and the body rejecting it as a foreign substance

Check this out

https://www.journalofsurgicalresearch.com/article/S0022-4804(11)00757-8/abstract