The cause for most rhinoplasties is recessed maxilla

[Deleted member 5061]

I randomly came across this homepage of a rhinoplasty doctor, what Ive instantly noticed was that around 80-90% of men who had rhinoplasty with this Doc are normies and have either a recessed maxilla or recessed mandible:

Male Rhinoplasty Before and After Gallery Archives - Dr Shahidi

Disclaimer: These images are provided for general educational purposes only and depict outcomes for individual adult patients. Surgical results vary depending on anatomy, healing, and other individual factors. Outcomes cannot be guaranteed. Images do not constitute medical advice. Any decision...

www.drshahidi.com

Its actually insane how many people are recessed judging by the before/after examples posted on that site.

Just go through the examples, youll see that almost all of them have recessed maxilla, or very downwards grown face or recessed mandible/lower jaw.

ALMOST all the hooked noses you see there (downwards swinging hook nose) are because of recessed, downwards projecting maxilla:

What most of these ppl need is a jaw surgery, because that would fix the hook nose for the most part and that is the reason why their noses are hooked.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

 

[MansNotHot]

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Looks way better

 

[beyourself]

Just be bluepilled and make your face even tinier instead of having LeFort I done theory.

 

[hairyballscel]

yup a lot of rhinos don't target the underlying issues

but if you have a bulbous nose your development wont impact it much if at all

 

[MD_Hopeful69]

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How many mm of bimax is thusb

 

[Deleted member 5973]

holy shit being a boneless cuck is such a deathsentence

 

[Deleted member 4797]

How many mm of bimax is thusb

roughly 4mm

 

[Deleted member 10524]

jfl all the girls that got nose jobs as seniors are fucked

 

[Deleted member 5061]

jfl all the girls that got nose jobs as seniors are fucked

Its very similar case with women, most of them have recessed maxilla, which results in a hook nose and nose tip pointing downwards:

You can see how their posture is bad as well, especially with last 2.

Its actually really crazy how a recessed maxilla causes a domino effect and other parts of the face descend as well in the process.

If you think about it- being aware about maxilla growth and proper tongue position, body posture etc. can save you like 10K USD just for a nose job alone, not even speaking about other procedures like jaw surgery.

Its not a coincidence that gymnasts, ballerinas etc. almost always have perfectly developed faces. Taylor Hill did gymnastics when she was a kid.

It is about being aware of facial muscles (esp. suprahyoid muscles is 2nd most important after tongue), tongue position and body posture.

It is about being aware from young age, that if you are going to do a job working on a computer all day, you will need to compensate for sitting all day in 1 cramped posture by doing all sorts of exercises.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Not true. Most rhinoplasty before pictures have normal jaws. You're cherry picking. There's even a Chad in that gallery.

 

[LebenistneHure]

No one in their right mind will let you go through with a bimax unless your bite is fucked to begin with. It's way too invasive just for aesthetic purposes.

 

[MD_Hopeful69]

Cop

No one in their right mind will let you go through with a bimax unless your bite is fucked to begin with. It's way too invasive just for aesthetic purposes.

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[CursedOne]

I have recessed maxilla, but my jaw isnt recessed, I also needed rhino

 

[Soalian]

It looks like reducing an overprojected nose tip will "flatten" face from profile, thus making their already long midfaces look even longer and flat from profile.

 

[Gaia262]

Good post op,

Maxilla advancement, no rhinoplasty

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Good post op,

Maxilla advancement, no rhinoplasty

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you sure?

 

[Gaia262]

you sure?

Yup, the description says this.

 

[Stare]

Hopefully the normies keep getting rhinos and never see this

 

[Deleted member 6939]

yup a lot of rhinos don't target the underlying issues

but if you have a bulbous nose your development wont impact it much if at all

yeah I have a straight nose but a bulbous tip

 

[Deleted member 3270]

No one in their right mind will let you go through with a bimax unless your bite is fucked to begin with. It's way too invasive just for aesthetic purposes.

What if I claim I suffered with sleep apnea and kept insisting

 

[LebenistneHure]

What if I claim I suffered with sleep apnea and kept insisting

Well, you'd have to prove sleep apnea with medical tests, so that's not the way to go about it. I'm contacting Ramieri currently and I asked him if he'd be willing to do bimax on someone purely for aesthetical reasons. I'll let you know when I find out.

 

[isis_Bleach]

I randomly came across this homepage of a rhinoplasty doctor, what Ive instantly noticed was that around 80-90% of men who had rhinoplasty with this Doc are normies and have either a recessed maxilla or recessed mandible:

Male Rhinoplasty Before and After Gallery Archives - Dr Shahidi

Disclaimer: These images are provided for general educational purposes only and depict outcomes for individual adult patients. Surgical results vary depending on anatomy, healing, and other individual factors. Outcomes cannot be guaranteed. Images do not constitute medical advice. Any decision...

www.drshahidi.com

Its actually insane how many people are recessed judging by the before/after examples posted on that site.

Just go through the examples, youll see that almost all of them have recessed maxilla, or very downwards grown face or recessed mandible/lower jaw.

ALMOST all the hooked noses you see there (downwards swinging hook nose) are because of recessed, downwards projecting maxilla:

What most of these ppl need is a jaw surgery, because that would fix the hook nose for the most part and that is the reason why their noses are hooked.

Christ and I thought I was recessed

 

[Blackgymmax]

I had a dorito nose

 

[Deleted member 4790]

No one in their right mind will let you go through with a bimax unless your bite is fucked to begin with. It's way too invasive just for aesthetic purposes.

90 % of orthognathic surgery is due to aesthetic reasons. It provides health benefits too when planned adequately and opens the airway.

Of course I wouldn't do a mandibular setback only for an aesthetic purpose, but being recessed is an issue.

The problem isn't aesthetic motivation. The problem is this one: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/article-abstract/614362

Especially users from this and other forums, no offence.

 

[LebenistneHure]

90 % of orthognathic surgery is due to aesthetic reasons. It provides health benefits too when planned adequately and opens the airway.

Of course I wouldn't do a mandibular setback only for an aesthetic purpose, but being recessed is an issue.

The problem isn't aesthetic motivation. The problem is this one: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/article-abstract/614362

Especially users from this and other forums, no offence.

90 % of orthognathic surgery is due to aesthetic reasons. It provides health benefits too when planned adequately and opens the airway.

Of course I wouldn't do a mandibular setback only for an aesthetic purpose, but being recessed is an issue.

The problem isn't aesthetic motivation. The problem is this one: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/article-abstract/614362

Especially users from this and other forums, no

I know people can get it for aesthetic reasons, but will the surgeon proceed if there are absolutely no medical issues present? Say my face is flat, which could mean my midface is downward grown, but my bite is fine. Then I'd need to have a lefort to fix hypoplastia and my lower jaw advanced as well to now match the new position of upper teeth. Is this doable? Pls check out my latest thread, I'm looking to figure out if Id be a candidate.

Also I can't read the full study you posted, but that just seems like 90% of the forum, legit BDD cases. I might be one of the rarer users whose final goal isn't to look like a model or whatever these boys circlejerk around here, I literally don't want to look deformed. And I'd consider underdeveloped and set-back facial structure a deformity.

 

[Deleted member 12146]

Is this the case for bulbous tips even when they have a slop smooth bridge?

 

[Deleted member 10172]

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Damn so that makes sense. So basically the maxilla is the problem not the persons nose. How would someone advance their maxilla the way u did it?

 

[MedMaxxing]

Is this the case for bulbous tips even when they have a slop smooth bridge?

bulbous tip is just genetic. downward facing tip is not

 

[Deleted member 6939]

bulbous tip is just genetic. downward facing tip is not

yeah both of my parents had a bulbous tip so welp

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Damn so that makes sense. So basically the maxilla is the problem not the persons nose. How would someone advance their maxilla the way u did it?

Lefort1 osteotomy

 

[StrangerDanger]

wtf should I do if I have an upturned nose and want bimax

 

[coke]

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What surgery would pull the face forward like that?

 

[Deleted member 4797]

What surgery would pull the face forward like that?

Bimax

 

[coke]

Bimax

My bite is normal but I might try claim I have sleep apnea and try get Bimax on the NHS here in UK haha. I think it would benefit me a lot.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

My bite is normal but I might try claim I have sleep apnea and try get Bimax on the NHS here in UK haha. I think it would benefit me a lot.

Yea worth a try

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

someone post the fish guy

 

[Deleted member 4014]

I don’t have hooked nose or recessed maxilla yet my nose is bulbous as fuck

 

[datboijj]

I don’t have hooked nose or recessed maxilla yet my nose is bulbous as fuck

Just means you have poor bone to cartilage ratio

 

[datboijj]

I don’t have hooked nose or recessed maxilla yet my nose is bulbous as fuck

Wait I have a question.
Could you feel the back of your palette with the tip of your tongue and tell me
Is the middle or your HARD palette closer to the back of your mouth than the sides of your HARD palette
See the image below

i'M TRYNA SEE SOMETHING PLEASE RESPOND

 

[datboijj]

RESPOND BITCH!!

I don’t have hooked nose or recessed maxilla yet my nose is bulbous as fuck

 

[NoPainNoChick]

I know people can get it for aesthetic reasons, but will the surgeon proceed if there are absolutely no medical issues present? Say my face is flat, which could mean my midface is downward grown, but my bite is fine. Then I'd need to have a lefort to fix hypoplastia and my lower jaw advanced as well to now match the new position of upper teeth. Is this doable? Pls check out my latest thread, I'm looking to figure out if Id be a candidate.

Also I can't read the full study you posted, but that just seems like 90% of the forum, legit BDD cases. I might be one of the rarer users whose final goal isn't to look like a model or whatever these boys circlejerk around here, I literally don't want to look deformed. And I'd consider underdeveloped and set-back facial structure a deformity.

You can read the entire study using SciHub.
Thanks @Sergio-OMS for sharing. It's quite an old study but surely even more relevant today.

 

[tyronelite]

I don’t have hooked nose or recessed maxilla yet my nose is bulbous as fuck

want my nose?

 

[needsurgeryasap]

Good post op,

Maxilla advancement, no rhinoplasty

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How do they advannce it? Which surgery? or is it implant?

 

[Gaia262]

How do they advannce it? Which surgery? or is it implant?

Bimax, specifically lefort 1.

This.

 

[freeone12]

Everyone read this

 

[Deleted member 5061]

Everyone read this

just more proof how high IQ my thread is.

Make sure to not spread this info anywhere else.

But tbh imo we shouldnt worry, because the greed of nose surgeons will handle everything by itself. Even if they knew what exactly the actual underlying issue is, they wont send their potential patients to the maxfac surgeons, because theyd earn no money.

 

[Deleted member 10185]

It can be also genetic instead of recession. My father had mogger face but he had very big nose... but it is also true that Shit noses can be caused by recession.

 

[Deleted member 10185]

Damn so that makes sense. So basically the maxilla is the problem not the persons nose. How would someone advance their maxilla the way u did it?

No this is not true in all cases. Big noses can be genetic.. I dont have recessed maxilla but I still have big and hooked nose.. My father have same issues.. good facial development but still have big ass nose.

 

[Deleted member 12218]

Wait I have a question.
Could you feel the back of your palette with the tip of your tongue and tell me
Is the middle or your HARD palette closer to the back of your mouth than the sides of your HARD palette
See the image below

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i'M TRYNA SEE SOMETHING PLEASE RESPOND

I don’t have that middle piece sticking out