The complete Guide on injection lipolysis and fillers (aka injection of fat dissolvers or dermal fillers/botox)

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(DISCLAIMER!!!): I'm not, nor do I claim to be a trained professional in this field, do not try to copy these practices at home, I'm doing this for educational purposes only ;).

First let's start with some background information:

-Injection lipolysis is a non-surgical cosmetic procedure that involves the injection of substances, typically phosphatidylcholine and deoxycholic acid, into targeted areas of the body to reduce fat deposits.

-The main fat dissolvers that are used are Aqualyx, Lemonbottle, lipo lab v-line, deso, DR.lipo +, pine bottle(a copy of lemon bottle but has better batches and cheaper), and kybella.


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Let's move on to the forms of injection and the pros and cons of each.

-There are two main types of ways to inject these products, The first one being with the use of syringes and the second one being with the use of hyaluron/jet pens.
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(hyaluron/jet pen)

I think we all know what a syringe is, but…
What is a hyaluron pen???

The hyaluron pen is a non-invasive medical device specifically designed to administer hyaluronic acid fillers without the use of needles. It operates on the principle of pressure, allowing for an injection into the skin's outer layer, making it a popular choice in aesthetic medicine for various cosmetic enhancements.


The pros of using a syringe:
-direct injection into specific site
-will puncture through thick skin
-less waste of product after injection
-you can choose the depth of with the product reaches
-used by professionals and is authorized by the FDA
-more tutorials on using syringes in comparison with hyaluron pen methods
-can be used with any fat dissolver


The cons of using a syringe:
-quite dangerous if used untrained!
-you can only use the syringe for one session
-higher risk for infection if not prepared correctly
-you can puncture a nerve of artery, (ill tell you later why this is detrimental)
-more painful


The pros of using a Hyaluron pen:
-needleless injection
-less pain
-easier to use
-typically believed to not puncture any arteries or nerves
-can be reused many and multiple times
-used mainly by non professionals seeking for similar results
-more precise on amount used
-you can buy a electric or manual one


The cons of using a hyaluron pen:
-only one ampule can be used per session
-NOT exactly fda approved
-can leave permanent damage to skin after injection site
-will not work with all types of products or serums (mainly used for hyaluronic acid)
-hard to control the depth at witch the serum reaches through your skin
-not as precise as needles.


How does the hyaluron pen work compared to a syringe
The hyaluron pen operates by using high-pressure technology to deliver hyaluronic acid fillers into the skin without traditional needles. Once injected it releases a burst of used product that penetrates the epidermis and reaches the dermis, allowing for precise placement. This filler solution attracts and binds water molecules, providing immediate volume and hydration to the treated area.
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How to prep your hyluron pen:
How to prep your needle syringe (she says the subcutaneous layer, but i put this link in for the tutorial on how to prep a needle):

Now that we know about both methods let's get into the injection sites or areas to inject in:

I will start off by saying that using either method has its own risks and hazards no matter where you decide to inject. On that note you need to not just read this thread but DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

Now that this is known, the first thing you will need to understand is that there are certain areas on the face that you must avoid. The areas that you want to avoid are mainly the upper thirds of your face, this includes the eye area, the temple, the forehead, the nose and lastly the nasolabial fold.

The areas that are moderately at risk are the middle thirds, which includes the cheeks, lips and philtrum.

The areas with the lowest risk are the lower thirds of your face with includes the jaw, and the chin.

For more information on the blood vessel anatomy go here: An illustrated anatomical approach to reducing vascular risk during facial soft tissue filler administration – a review - JPRAS Open



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The higher the risk the more likely that you will injure a nerve, puncture a blood vessel, cause heavy bruising, injure a muscle or cause other permanent forms of damage. This is important to understand because If you puncture a blood vessel or nerve you can go blind or paralyze your face. That's why it is extremely important to know the anatomy of the blood vessels and nerve branches in your face. On top of this, (if you are using a needle), it is extremely important to understand the depth at which the needle should go.
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Understanding the depths and angles of the injection site on certain parts of the face:
We will only be looking at the use of injecting fat dissolvers in the face there are different depths for different reasons The
dermis lies directly beneath the epidermis, so its depth depends on the combined thickness of the epidermis and dermis in a specific area of the body:
-On average, the epidermis is 0.1–0.2 mm thick, with the dermis starting at that depth and extending to 1–3 mm depending on the body part.

We are trying to only inject in the dermis and let the fat dissolvent solution naturally reach the tissue under to erase the fat deposit. Therefore you should aim at around a 45 degree angle and inject only 1.5-2.5 mm deep. Please don't go low inhib and inject yourself at a 90 degree angle and hit a muscle :).


More info:https://www.verywellhealth.com/skin-anatomy-1068880


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Thank you for reading :)
I will be injecting myself with a Pine bottle that's why I know so much :)

speacial thanks too UserDeleted member 16673
 
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(DISCLAIMER!!!): I'm not, nor do I claim to be a trained professional in this field, do not try to copy these practices at home, I'm doing this for educational purposes only ;).

First let's start with some background information:

-Injection lipolysis is a non-surgical cosmetic procedure that involves the injection of substances, typically phosphatidylcholine and deoxycholic acid, into targeted areas of the body to reduce fat deposits.

-The main fat dissolvers that are used are Aqualyx, Lemonbottle, lipo lab v-line, deso, DR.lipo +, pine bottle(a copy of lemon bottle but has better batches and cheaper), and kybella.


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Let's move on to the forms of injection and the pros and cons of each.

-There are two main types of ways to inject these products, The first one being with the use of syringes and the second one being with the use of hyaluron/jet pens.
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(hyaluron/jet pen)

I think we all know what a syringe is, but…
What is a hyaluron pen???

The hyaluron pen is a non-invasive medical device specifically designed to administer hyaluronic acid fillers without the use of needles. It operates on the principle of pressure, allowing for an injection into the skin's outer layer, making it a popular choice in aesthetic medicine for various cosmetic enhancements.


The pros of using a syringe:
-direct injection into specific site
-will puncture through thick skin
-less waste of product after injection
-you can choose the depth of with the product reaches
-used by professionals and is authorized by the FDA
-more tutorials on using syringes in comparison with hyaluron pen methods
-can be used with any fat dissolver


The cons of using a syringe:
-quite dangerous if used untrained!
-you can only use the syringe for one session
-higher risk for infection if not prepared correctly
-you can puncture a nerve of artery, (ill tell you later why this is detrimental)
-more painful


The pros of using a Hyaluron pen:
-needleless injection
-less pain
-easier to use
-typically believed to not puncture any arteries or nerves
-can be reused many and multiple times
-used mainly by non professionals seeking for similar results
-more precise on amount used
-you can buy a electric or manual one


The cons of using a hyaluron pen:
-only one ampule can be used per session
-NOT exactly fda approved
-can leave permanent damage to skin after injection site
-will not work with all types of products or serums (mainly used for hyaluronic acid)
-hard to control the depth at witch the serum reaches through your skin
-not as precise as needles.


How does the hyaluron pen work compared to a syringe
The hyaluron pen operates by using high-pressure technology to deliver hyaluronic acid fillers into the skin without traditional needles. Once injected it releases a burst of used product that penetrates the epidermis and reaches the dermis, allowing for precise placement. This filler solution attracts and binds water molecules, providing immediate volume and hydration to the treated area.
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How to prep your hyluron pen:
How to prep your needle syringe (she says the subcutaneous layer, but i put this link in for the tutorial on how to prep a needle):

Now that we know about both methods let's get into the injection sites or areas to inject in:

I will start off by saying that using either method has its own risks and hazards no matter where you decide to inject. On that note you need to not just read this thread but DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

Now that this is known, the first thing you will need to understand is that there are certain areas on the face that you must avoid. The areas that you want to avoid are mainly the upper thirds of your face, this includes the eye area, the temple, the forehead, the nose and lastly the nasolabial fold.

The areas that are moderately at risk are the middle thirds, which includes the cheeks, lips and philtrum.

The areas with the lowest risk are the lower thirds of your face with includes the jaw, and the chin.

For more information on the blood vessel anatomy go here: An illustrated anatomical approach to reducing vascular risk during facial soft tissue filler administration – a review - JPRAS Open



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The higher the risk the more likely that you will injure a nerve, puncture a blood vessel, cause heavy bruising, injure a muscle or cause other permanent forms of damage. This is important to understand because If you puncture a blood vessel or nerve you can go blind or paralyze your face. That's why it is extremely important to know the anatomy of the blood vessels and nerve branches in your face. On top of this, (if you are using a needle), it is extremely important to understand the depth at which the needle should go.
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Understanding the depths and angles of the injection site on certain parts of the face:
We will only be looking at the use of injecting fat dissolvers in the face there are different depths for different reasons The
dermis lies directly beneath the epidermis, so its depth depends on the combined thickness of the epidermis and dermis in a specific area of the body:
-On average, the epidermis is 0.1–0.2 mm thick, with the dermis starting at that depth and extending to 1–3 mm depending on the body part.

We are trying to only inject in the dermis and let the fat dissolvent solution naturally reach the tissue under to erase the fat deposit. Therefore you should aim at around a 45 degree angle and inject only 1.5-2.5 mm deep. Please don't go low inhib and inject yourself at a 90 degree angle and hit a muscle :).


More info:https://www.verywellhealth.com/skin-anatomy-1068880


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Thank you for reading :)
I will be injecting myself with a Pine bottle that's why I know so much :)

speacial thanks too UserDeleted member 16673

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(DISCLAIMER!!!): I'm not, nor do I claim to be a trained professional in this field, do not try to copy these practices at home, I'm doing this for educational purposes only ;).

First let's start with some background information:

-Injection lipolysis is a non-surgical cosmetic procedure that involves the injection of substances, typically phosphatidylcholine and deoxycholic acid, into targeted areas of the body to reduce fat deposits.

-The main fat dissolvers that are used are Aqualyx, Lemonbottle, lipo lab v-line, deso, DR.lipo +, pine bottle(a copy of lemon bottle but has better batches and cheaper), and kybella.


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Let's move on to the forms of injection and the pros and cons of each.

-There are two main types of ways to inject these products, The first one being with the use of syringes and the second one being with the use of hyaluron/jet pens.
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(hyaluron/jet pen)

I think we all know what a syringe is, but…
What is a hyaluron pen???

The hyaluron pen is a non-invasive medical device specifically designed to administer hyaluronic acid fillers without the use of needles. It operates on the principle of pressure, allowing for an injection into the skin's outer layer, making it a popular choice in aesthetic medicine for various cosmetic enhancements.


The pros of using a syringe:
-direct injection into specific site
-will puncture through thick skin
-less waste of product after injection
-you can choose the depth of with the product reaches
-used by professionals and is authorized by the FDA
-more tutorials on using syringes in comparison with hyaluron pen methods
-can be used with any fat dissolver


The cons of using a syringe:
-quite dangerous if used untrained!
-you can only use the syringe for one session
-higher risk for infection if not prepared correctly
-you can puncture a nerve of artery, (ill tell you later why this is detrimental)
-more painful


The pros of using a Hyaluron pen:
-needleless injection
-less pain
-easier to use
-typically believed to not puncture any arteries or nerves
-can be reused many and multiple times
-used mainly by non professionals seeking for similar results
-more precise on amount used
-you can buy a electric or manual one


The cons of using a hyaluron pen:
-only one ampule can be used per session
-NOT exactly fda approved
-can leave permanent damage to skin after injection site
-will not work with all types of products or serums (mainly used for hyaluronic acid)
-hard to control the depth at witch the serum reaches through your skin
-not as precise as needles.


How does the hyaluron pen work compared to a syringe
The hyaluron pen operates by using high-pressure technology to deliver hyaluronic acid fillers into the skin without traditional needles. Once injected it releases a burst of used product that penetrates the epidermis and reaches the dermis, allowing for precise placement. This filler solution attracts and binds water molecules, providing immediate volume and hydration to the treated area.
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How to prep your hyluron pen:
How to prep your needle syringe (she says the subcutaneous layer, but i put this link in for the tutorial on how to prep a needle):

Now that we know about both methods let's get into the injection sites or areas to inject in:

I will start off by saying that using either method has its own risks and hazards no matter where you decide to inject. On that note you need to not just read this thread but DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

Now that this is known, the first thing you will need to understand is that there are certain areas on the face that you must avoid. The areas that you want to avoid are mainly the upper thirds of your face, this includes the eye area, the temple, the forehead, the nose and lastly the nasolabial fold.

The areas that are moderately at risk are the middle thirds, which includes the cheeks, lips and philtrum.

The areas with the lowest risk are the lower thirds of your face with includes the jaw, and the chin.

For more information on the blood vessel anatomy go here: An illustrated anatomical approach to reducing vascular risk during facial soft tissue filler administration – a review - JPRAS Open



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The higher the risk the more likely that you will injure a nerve, puncture a blood vessel, cause heavy bruising, injure a muscle or cause other permanent forms of damage. This is important to understand because If you puncture a blood vessel or nerve you can go blind or paralyze your face. That's why it is extremely important to know the anatomy of the blood vessels and nerve branches in your face. On top of this, (if you are using a needle), it is extremely important to understand the depth at which the needle should go.
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Understanding the depths and angles of the injection site on certain parts of the face:
We will only be looking at the use of injecting fat dissolvers in the face there are different depths for different reasons The
dermis lies directly beneath the epidermis, so its depth depends on the combined thickness of the epidermis and dermis in a specific area of the body:
-On average, the epidermis is 0.1–0.2 mm thick, with the dermis starting at that depth and extending to 1–3 mm depending on the body part.

We are trying to only inject in the dermis and let the fat dissolvent solution naturally reach the tissue under to erase the fat deposit. Therefore you should aim at around a 45 degree angle and inject only 1.5-2.5 mm deep. Please don't go low inhib and inject yourself at a 90 degree angle and hit a muscle :).


More info:https://www.verywellhealth.com/skin-anatomy-1068880


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Thank you for reading :)
I will be injecting myself with a Pine bottle that's why I know so much :)

speacial thanks too UserDeleted member 16673

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