THE DELUSIONS OF SLAYING AND THE IMPORTANCE OF GOOD MENTAL HEALTH

[Deleted member 6531]

Highly recommend watching the video but if you don't, what I've written below basically summarizes it, be warned though it is quite long

Alexander grace is blackpilled these days.

In summary: guys believe they can fix all the internal self esteem issues and problems with their image by simply having casual sex with women. As Alexander grace says "eating at a buffet but you never get full". This applies to many guys on this site because a lot of guys on here have had negative feedback and believe that having casual sex with women will provide them with long term fulfilment and self esteem, when it wont.


95% of men aren't gonna be good looking enough/ tall enough/ rich enough to have sex with a new women every day.

Let's say that somehow you manage to accomplish having sex with a new women every day, you won't feel the same mentally as Chad who does this as well, Chad has good mental health because he's received positive feedback from social interactions since he was young because he was tall/good looking/ rich.You on the other hand? You might have had sex with heaps of women like Chad, but you'll feel empty mentally because you have mental problems that haven't been resolved that stem from your lack of self esteem and negative feedback (bullying, criticism etc) from a young age.

Alexander also shames dudes mostly the pickup redpill dude YouTubers who are like have an abundance mindset bro, go and get laid and get a new girl everyday. Several dudes on this site shame other dudes for not wanting to get laid every day with a new girl. This is simply not realistic for 90% of men in this world.


Alexander grace says if you want to win the game of dating "don't play". What he Means by this is not don't ever talk to a women ever again and to hate women and never put yourself out there, but simply get in the dating market to find a high quality girlfriend and dip out of the dating market when you find one.


In b4 "girlfriends are cope, women are just sex objects used for their pussy, no high quality women exists, they've all been rammed by 200 chads from tinder, they're useless and boring".

These things that you guys say just show that you're bitter and insecure and that you haven't ever interacted with a high quality women in real life. You probably have been hurt by low quality sluts during highschool and now you project your fears onto all women. You cope by saying all this garbage about women and generalizing women to avoid getting a girlfriend.

1. High quality women exist, they're just rare and can't be found on dating apps, find them at uni in places like nursing courses, they haven't had sex with 10+ guys, I've met many high quality women during my time at uni who have either been in long term relationships with high quality men or are seeking high quality men for long term relationships, obviously I wasn't good enough for these women but that's just how it is, women need to have high standards because reproduction is more costly for them and they have to invest more. I did not get bitter at these women for rejecting me, I simply moved on and found other girls.

2. Yes women all want Chad, but the truth is not all women can get Chad to settle down with them, it's biologically ingrained in them to want Chad because they want the best genes to pass on and therefore the offspring to be sexually successful as well.

3. High quality women have personalities beside their vagina.

Now back to my point on getting a high quality girlfriend an dipping from the dating market. As you all know getting a high quality girlfriend to settle down with you is not easy. The truth is you have to looksmax (surgery, gym, lifts (1-2 inches) and then learn conversational skills and stop being a bloody autist and actually go talk to women. As much as you guys hate normies for being bluepilled and redpilled the truth is they have way better conversational skills and are able to hold eye contact with women, they just don't know about looksmaxxing which is vital.

You autists on here have all this knowledge which is powerful about what makes a face attractive and the surgeries to get an attractive face , but you guys are complete autists and can't even engage with a normal conversation so how will you get a high quality girlfriend.


Also even after looksmaxxing (surgery, lifts, gym etc) you have to be realistic about your expectations for your future partner . You likely won't still be a Chad, but let's say you do become a Chad then getting a high quality women will be easy for you as long as you aren't an autist and can engage in a normal conversation maintaining eye contact. If you don't become a Chad after looksmaxxing then you need to be realistic about your options. Everyone starts at a different base level, the 5'8 south indian guy starts at a different level to a 6'3 white chad, so after looksmaxxing the south indian dude will still be at a much lower level so he will need to have realistic expectations.


Look I'm not saying getting a high quality girlfriend is the be all end all, but look at the people around you, the men around you In long term relationships , they're much happier from what I have seen, compared to those guys who are pumping and dumping and having sex with random women, I mean like look at the self proclaimed slayers on this website, half of them just say garbage about women and degrade them to sex objects, but can you blame them? All they've done Is proven to themselves that women are sex objects by sleeping with low quality women from clubs and tinder so ofc they'll think of women as a waste of time and that high quality women don't exist.





Tagging the bros

@chadison @volcelfatcel @tyronelite @africancel @TRUE_CEL @turkproducer @Preston dunno how many of them are still active tbh

 

[Deleted member 6403]

Chad has good mental health because he's received positive feedback from social interactions since he was young because he was tall/good looking/ rich.You on the other hand?

Cause he has low serotonin

 

[AlexAP]

True tbh, it would be perfect to find a high quality woman and settle down with her. I just want to prepare myself for the case that it doesn't happen to me, as so many men around me haven't found her or got divorced (yeah, they weren't high-quality men themselves likely).

LTR with high-quality woman > slaying > MGTOW cope

 

[Deleted member 6403]

@Alexanderr i didnt know you were BLACKEDPILLED!

He hates me and wants me to rope

 

[gamma]

they haven't had sex with 10+ guys

Woman older than 18 yo with less than 10 bodycount....the delusion

 

[Deleted member 6531]

Woman older than 18 yo with less than 10 bodycount....the delusion
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Maybe in Italy it's different for you, but the average sexual partners a women has by the age of 40 is 8.


Also I know several women with bodycounts of less than 4 at University

 

[AcneScars]

Woman older than 18 yo with less than 10 bodycount....the delusion
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Ok Chad not everyone has a harem of virgin JB stacies like you do

 

[gamma]

but the average sexual partners a women has by the age of 40 is 8.

If someone believes this, he's very bluepilled

 

[APJ]

Meh people oversell LTRs like they oversell casual sex. The danger in LTRs is that you get settled for — she is likely the hottest you can get, but she has had casual sex with/pumped and dumped by hotter Chads than you.

If you get emotionally involved this will fuck you up: you get treated like shit post-honeymoon period, she is thinking about Chad when she is with you (but lies to you about this), she has tons of ‘false options’ of Chads for casual sex (who she thinks she may be able to snag for an LTR) which as soon as you call her out on the inevitable bullshit/‘micro-cheating’ she is looking at them and can credibly threaten to leave.

 

[chadison]

Good thread but I disagree with one point.

I agree that finding a high value woman and LTRing her is the better option here. But LTRing the first woman you have sex with isn't smart. You want experience (at least 5) women before you settle with one. That way you learn them better and know what you want.

Secondly, I disagree about women offering more than sex. Truthfully, that's really all they offer in most relationships besides tax benefits and companionship in marriage. Women cannot do anything that a man can do equally or better. They're useless beyond being used as a sex object. I'm not saying this out of spite, this is simply objective. If you took away a woman's vagina, 90% of the men that are in LTRs now would break up with their girlfriends. This is a simple fact. Most people use each other for sex, women like the validation and use it as a means of transaction or pleasure (if it's with a true Chad) and men use it because they constantly desire it. Most women are relatively useless and are not as intelligent as the men that I have met in my life. HOWEVER, this does not mean there are some women that are intelligent and well spoken. I have ran into them before. But even then, getting into an LTR with them: they're allowed to vent on you and you have to act as an emotional tampon, and if you do that? She starts to see you as a beta, and eventually she'll break up with you. Very rarely have I seen relationships where both individuals were truly happy with each other, and you could take sex off the table or offer temptation through the possibility of monkey branching and they would still love each other.

Who knows, maybe this is just my bias because my parents had an absolutely shitty relationship prior to them getting divorced. And I have seen/experienced many others in my life, much more than the average person. But that's just my two cents.

Besides that one little nuance, the rest of the threat was great. Too bad most people won't listen to it.

 

[Deleted member 6531]

If someone believes this, he's very bluepilled

I literally know women with 3 and 4 sexual partners. Are you saying these women are lying? Cuz I know all their boyfriends and all their history with guys

Stop believing that the average women has had 10 sexual partners by 20. Holy fuck.


The average women who doesn't go clubbing every weekend and partying every weekend likely have not been been approached by 10 guys formally asking them out by the age of 20 let alone having 10 sexual partners as most guys are too pussy to approach women formally and most download tinder.

 

[gamma]

Are you saying these women are lying?

not been been approached by 10 guys formally asking them out by the age of 20 let alone having 10 sexual partners

Instagram....every woman gets approached 10 times a week (or more) on IG

 

[Yliaster]

Everyone writing essays in this thread and the thread itself is a whole Thesis.......smh

 

[AlexAP]

I literally know women with 3 and 4 sexual partners. Are you saying these women are lying? Cuz I know all their boyfriends and all their history with guys

Stop believing that the average women has had 10 sexual partners by 20. Holy fuck.


The average women who doesn't go clubbing every weekend and partying every weekend likely have not been been approached by 10 guys formally asking them out by the age of 20 let alone having 10 sexual partners as most guys are too pussy to approach women formally and most download tinder.

True, my sister is still with her first boyfriend after 9 years.

 

[gamma]

True, my sister is still with her first boyfriend after 9 years.

The few good girls are always taken after 18....so it's like they don't exist

 

[AlexAP]

Instagram....every woman gets approached 10 times a week (or more) on IG

99% of the approaches are from ugly or actually creepy men, and women don't care that much about ONS compared to men.

 

[Yliaster]

watching that video right now btw,and soo far he's just coping hard af and saying delusional bs about finding a high quality gf
and then to drop out of the dating market lmfao....

good luck with that if you live in the west.

 

[gamma]

99% of the approaches are from ugly or actually creepy men

Aka looksmax users

 

[Deleted member 6531]

watching that video right now btw,and soo far he's just coping hard af and saying delusional bs about finding a high quality gf
and then to drop out of the dating market lmfao....

good luck with that if you live in the west.

Coping is what men have to do when we realise reality when it comes to women and how chads only can get success from short term flings.


He's not saying delusional bs about high quality girls, they do exist and they do provide value other than just sex.

Yes he said drop out of the dating market because you dont need to be in there when you have a girlfriend

 

[Deleted member 6531]

The few good girls are always taken after 18....so it's like they don't exist

Nope they do. You just haven't looked in the right places.

 

[Deleted member 6531]

Everyone writing essays in this thread and the thread itself is a whole Thesis.......smh

I did warm you that it was long

 

[gamma]

Nope they do. You just haven't looked in the right places.

Where do you live btw

 

[Deleted member 6531]

Instagram....every woman gets approached 10 times a week (or more) on IG

That's not the same as been approached irl, most women have not had 10 guys approach them irl if they don't go clubbing or partying

 

[Deleted member 6531]

Where do you live btw

New Zealand

 

[gamma]

That's not the same as been approached irl, most women have not had 10 guys approach them irl if they don't go clubbing or partying

What's the difference?

 

[Yliaster]

New Zealand

NZ is still relatively stable when it comes to dating,so makes sense then why you're soo optimistic about the advice in that video
about finding a high quality gf lol.

But for the rest of us who live in the West,especially places like Burgerland,Canada and the UK. finding a high quality gf here who
doesn't have a 2 digit body count is almost impossible.Dating for men today is a literal race to the bottom.

 

[Deleted member 6531]

Good thread but I disagree with one point.

I agree that finding a high value woman and LTRing her is the better option here. But LTRing the first woman you have sex with isn't smart. You want experience (at least 5) women before you settle with one. That way you learn them better and know what you want.

Secondly, I disagree about women offering more than sex. Truthfully, that's really all they offer in most relationships besides tax benefits and companionship in marriage. Women cannot do anything that a man can do equally or better. They're useless beyond being used as a sex object. I'm not saying this out of spite, this is simply objective. If you took away a woman's vagina, 90% of the men that are in LTRs now would break up with their girlfriends. This is a simple fact. Most people use each other for sex, women like the validation and use it as a means of transaction or pleasure (if it's with a true Chad) and men use it because they constantly desire it. Most women are relatively useless and are not as intelligent as the men that I have met in my life. HOWEVER, this does not mean there are some women that are intelligent and well spoken. I have ran into them before. But even then, getting into an LTR with them: they're allowed to vent on you and you have to act as an emotional tampon, and if you do that? She starts to see you as a beta, and eventually she'll break up with you. Very rarely have I seen relationships where both individuals were truly happy with each other, and you could take sex off the table or offer temptation through the possibility of monkey branching and they would still love each other.

Who knows, maybe this is just my bias because my parents had an absolutely shitty relationship prior to them getting divorced. And I have seen/experienced many others in my life, much more than the average person. But that's just my two cents.

Besides that one little nuance, the rest of the threat was great. Too bad most people won't listen to it.

Sadly most people won't listen because teenagers in school are mostly on this site who are obsessed with sex and short term flings

I do disagree with you and think that women provide more than just sex from my previous relationship she provided me with free meals as surprises when I was studying at the library, she also made me feel wanted and desired not in a sexual way but in a way that was unique (hugs, holding my hand, playing with my hair, these are things you can only get through Ltrs and something you can't get from flings with random girls. Yes I hated her complaining and her emotional rants but I loved her for her flaws. She supported me when I was doing shit and she ensured that I was on the right path when doing things.


Idk maybe I am overstating what girls do in relationships but truly I felt it was more than just sex and I don't believe women can only basically contribute sex, if my past girlfriend had only provided me with sex she would be no better than a casual hookup and I would have gotten bored and left.

 

[chadison]

Instagram....every woman gets approached 10 times a week (or more) on IG

I don't always agree with the black pill or what people say in this forum, but I will say that this time I agree with gamma. If you're averaging all the women across the world, including those in starving countries and subject to forms of control of religious and societal means, then I agree with you. But if you're talking about Western women that go to university after high school, "8" as a body count is simply not true. You would be shocked at how much validation I see women receive regularly at my university. If they wanted to, they could have had a body count in the hundreds by the time they hit 20. Most women I know around me (granted I am in a frat) have a body count of around 15-20 by their junior year. And that is them TRYING to keep it low

 

[Deleted member 6531]

You are expected to approach women in a club and bar, it's deemed socially normal.

What's the difference?

When people are just going about their lives on a day to day basis, guys never approach women

 

[chadison]

Sadly most people won't listen because teenagers in school are mostly on this site who are obsessed with sex and short term flings

I do disagree with you and think that women provide more than just sex from my previous relationship she provided me with free meals as surprises when I was studying at the library, she also made me feel wanted and desired not in a sexual way but in a way that was unique (hugs, holding my hand, playing with my hair, these are things you can only get through Ltrs and something you can't get from flings with random girls. Yes I hated her complaining and her emotional rants but I loved her for her flaws. She supported me when I was doing shit and she ensured that I was on the right path when doing things.

Well I've never been in an LTR so I can't speak from experience. You probably know that those types of girls are very rare though. You must have lucked out.

Idk maybe I am overstating what girls do in relationships but truly I felt it was more than just sex and I don't believe women can only basically contribute sex, if my past girlfriend had only provided me with sex she would be no better than a casual hookup and I would have gotten bored and left.

I never said all women are useless, I just said most that I see are. And then they try to be useful by the time they've racked up 30 bodies and are in their late 20s, rapidly gaining weight and deteriorating. The amount of those relationships I see is astounding and that is why I am very adverse to LTRs. Along with my poor upbringing around my parents and friends as I have said

 

[gamma]

You are expected to approach women in a club and bar, it's deemed socially normal.

When people are just going about their lives on a day to day basis, guys never approach women

I mean, what's the difference between being approached on IG or IRL

 

[chadison]

When people are just going about their lives on a day to day basis, guys never approach women

Yes but as soon as women enter a bar it's already over. I've had conversations with decent looking women, probably 6 out of 10s, And they have told me that there's usually a few guys that want to go home with them at any given bar/party, any night. Who does that happen to on the male side? Only Chad.

But people underestimate status here. I think a true Chad is good looking and has status. I don't think there can be an aspie Chad. It just doesn't work that way

 

[Gengar]

good thread bro i read every single word of it. i agree with pretty much everything you said.

 

[Deleted member 6531]

Well I've never been in an LTR so I can't speak from experience. You probably know that those types of girls are very rare though. You must have lucked out.

I never said all women are useless, I just said most that I see are. And then they try to be useful by the time they've racked up 30 bodies and are in their late 20s, rapidly gaining weight and deteriorating. The amount of those relationships I see is astounding and that is why I am very adverse to LTRs. Along with my poor upbringing around my parents and friends as I have said

Those women have had their fun and are now looking to settle down

There are small minority of women in their early 20s and late teens who don't go through that phase and only date high quality men. I know of several women who have old had LTRS and don't believe in the hookup and partying lifestyle.


The goal is to find those women ^ through looksmaxxing. If not then best to stay single. Fucking random women if you can is another viable option but usually just leaves you more empty mentally imo, but if you do end up liking that lifestyle than you should do it ig

 

[chadison]

Those women have had their fun and are now looking to settle down

There are small minority of women in their early 20s and late teens who don't go through that phase and only date high quality men. I know of several women who have old had LTRS and don't believe in the hookup and partying lifestyle.


The goal is to find those women ^ through looksmaxxing. If not then best to stay single. Fucking random women if you can is another viable option but usually just leaves you more empty mentally imo, but if you do end up liking that lifestyle than you should do it ig

Agree. I never have understood why men enjoy slaying. Every single one-night stand I've had has been unfulfilling. Friends with benefits are much better, when you know the girl more but aren't fully exclusive. However these are hard to do because women want commitment, or a one night stand pump and dump because those two are most viable for their mating strategy.

 

[Deleted member 6531]

Yes but as soon as women enter a bar it's already over. I've had conversations with decent looking women, probably 6 out of 10s, And they have told me that there's usually a few guys that want to go home with them at any given bar/party, any night. Who does that happen to on the male side? Only Chad.

But people underestimate status here. I think a true Chad is good looking and has status. I don't think there can be an aspie Chad. It just doesn't work that way

Yes. I agree.

The thing is the women in bars are often low quality looking to tie down a Chad which isn't simply possible because those men often have so many options they can just pump and dump. You'll mostly find low Quality women in bars and clubs most of the time, who have been asked out by 100s of guys since they go clubbing all the time and therefore have had atleast 10 sexual partners


My point is that most high quality women barely ever club/ party and therefore haven't had 10 guys approach them let alone having 10 sexual partners by the age of 20, how often do you see a guy at a gym approach a women, I've never seen it happen lmao

 

[AlexAP]

NZ is still relatively stable when it comes to dating,so makes sense then why you're soo optimistic about the advice in that video
about finding a high quality gf lol.

But for the rest of us who live in the West,especially places like Burgerland,Canada and the UK. finding a high quality gf here who
doesn't have a 2 digit body count is almost impossible.Dating for men today is a literal race to the bottom.

Why do you think NZ is different than other Western countries?
Studies have shown women of NZ have the highest body counts.

NZ women most promiscuous: survey

www.smh.com.au

 

[Deleted member 6531]

Why do you think NZ is different than other Western countries?
Studies have shown women of NZ have the highest body counts.

NZ women most promiscuous: survey

www.smh.com.au

Exactly.

I haven't met these types of women with high body counts because I only associate with high quality male friends and usually these guys have high quality girlfriends.


Nz is just like any other place in the west, competition for dating is fierce amongst men for women and hypergamy is rampant

 

[turkproducer]

I agree with your idea that most here got laughed at by some beckies in HS and are now scarred for life, which is childish

But a good woman, as in a woman who is actually wife material seems nearly impossible to find after 16, if you don’t meet them by the time you finish college you’ll always have a used up roastie

i don’t agree with the blackpill about everything but in this case it’s clear, become as close to chad as possible or just improve the most you can and ldar/become stoic

 

[chadison]

Nz is just like any other place in the west, competition for dating is fierce amongst men

Yet most men do jack shit to improve their appearance.

On one hand, I feel bad for them. On the other hand, I'm glad because it means less competition for me. I get at least a few clear IOIs from either an average or above avg girl at every party I go to now. Sometimes multiple girls

 

[chadison]

if you don’t meet them by the time you finish college you’ll always have a used up roastie

I think I've been permanently mentally damaged after seeing how women are in college firsthand.

 

[turkproducer]

I think I've been permanently mentally damaged after seeing how women are in college firsthand.

i’m starting. it’s going to be pretty tough ngl

i already have 0 trust, girls lied to me often about their V card and tried to manipulate me, but when i start to study i’ll be with fatherless toxic women who will blackpill me once again

how many quality girls exist at uni i wonder

 

[chadison]

i’m starting. it’s going to be pretty tough ngl

i already have 0 trust, girls lied to me often about their V card and tried to manipulate me, but when i start to study i’ll be with fatherless toxic women who will blackpill me once again

how many quality girls exist at uni i wonder

All I can say is, don't get your hopes up. Especially if you're like me and go to a large party university. It's exactly your worst nightmare what you think it is.

I wish I could tell you it wasn't, but I really would be lying.

Like aquiillaxo said, it is possible to find "high value women" And therefore it is useful to improve your appearance. However, don't be surprised if you go year(s) before finding one

 

[turkproducer]

All I can say is, don't get your hopes up. Especially if you're like me and go to a large party university. It's exactly your worst nightmare what you think it is.

I wish I could tell you it wasn't, but I really would be lying.

Like aquiillaxo said, it is possible to find "high value women" And therefore it is useful to improve your appearance. However, don't be surprised if you go year(s) before finding one

I PMd you.

this sounds like hell

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Alexander Grace is melodramatic but this video is still decent.

 

[Deleted member 2403]

Not a single pixel entered my retina

 

[Deleted member 275]

Cant relate to high energy high quality women anymore tbh. The demands are too high.

Getting a quality ltr is much harder than slaying. So if i cant even slay, what chance do i have

 

[Deleted member 6531]

Cant relate to high energy high quality women anymore tbh. The demands are too high.

Getting a quality ltr is much harder than slaying. So if i cant even slay, what chance do i have

Yeah if you've done everything to looksmax and you can't slay or Ltr, then just remove your self from the dating market sadly

 

[dachad]

Good thread

 

[Deleted member 14274]

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Yes but as soon as women enter a bar it's already over. I've had conversations with decent looking women, probably 6 out of 10s, And they have told me that there's usually a few guys that want to go home with them at any given bar/party, any night. Who does that happen to on the male side? Only Chad.

But people underestimate status here. I think a true Chad is good looking and has status. I don't think there can be an aspie Chad. It just doesn't work that way

those women end up going home with the trendouche