The difference between being non-GL & GL BAFFLES me -- biggest mystery!

[Deleted member 20704]

Like we talk about how harmony is meme, blah blah but truth be told it is what draws that fine line between non-GL & GL that mystifies me.

NOBODY here or anywhere can perfectly explain it. We can pick apart the features and ratios of the GL but you cannot just copy these & go from non-GL to GL. That "touch" or "something" that lets you envision a HTN as a Chad, but how about invisible, nobody Joe turn in to Chad?

So it is legit BEYOND harmony and all that. You say get this surgery, that surgery, but often you're telling it to someone you feel ALREADY IS past that "fine line." Like most looksmaxxing advice is legit to help people with SOME PERCEIVABLE CHANCE of being much better looking rather than just to help the person with zero GL default. Like I wanna see GENUINE, UNDISPUTABLE looksmaxxing advice for a guy with average everywhere & zero "oomph." I don't wanna hear how Chadlite can look better ... Show me how any sub 5 can pass that line!

Like, we can say how someone looks worse, better, or whether "it's over" or you're GL, but till this day NOBODY can clearly explain how someone not GL can be become GL. You can shrink a long midface on a horseface and he becomes less ugly but not necessarily GL. So averagecels or harmonycels DOOMED? How do we help those we CAN'T see ascending? Not quite some fixed rules or instructions anymore, eh?

We talk of how we know all that is looksmaxxing, but the second St. Blackops2cel steps in, or etc. we lose hope and question it all.

 

[Deleted member 17829]

yeah we still havent figured this shit out yet.

but tbh. bimax and rhino and softmaxxing can ascend pretty much anyone

 

[subtochad]

Human attractiveness is extremely, extremely, complicated, and it took millions of years of evolution for us to be able to automatically tell who is hot and who is not.

However, "X factor" that you feel, that cant be described by individual features, probably is a combination of good ratios (the features on your face are proportionate), harmony (yeah no on knows what tf this is, but it can be best described as your features all fitting together correctly on a proper phenotype), as well as general facial symmetry.

This is why you need to consult blackpilled surgeons before proceeding. They know more than us.

 

[subtochad]

k

 

[alriodai]

Human attractiveness is extremely, extremely, complicated, and it took millions of years of evolution for us to be able to automatically tell who is hot and who is not.

However, "X factor" that you feel, that cant be described by individual features, probably is a combination of good ratios (the features on your face are proportionate), harmony (yeah no on knows what tf this is, but it can be best described as your features all fitting together correctly on a proper phenotype), as well as general facial symmetry.

This is why you need to consult blackpilled surgeons before proceeding. They know more than us.

High IQ;
People don't understand harmony is about how your features fit together
You could have a huge nose and it could fit your face, and a small nose wouldn't
You could have hunter eyes and it wouldn't fit your face, and prey eyes would

Sometimes you have the wrong features in your face and it ruins your harmony

 

[thereallegend]

Sex appeal

 

[mvp2v1]

Like we talk about how harmony is meme, blah blah but truth be told it is what draws that fine line between non-GL & GL that mystifies me.

NOBODY here or anywhere can perfectly explain it. We can pick apart the features and ratios of the GL but you cannot just copy these & go from non-GL to GL. That "touch" or "something" that lets you envision a HTN as a Chad, but how about invisible, nobody Joe turn in to Chad?

So it is legit BEYOND harmony and all that. You say get this surgery, that surgery, but often you're telling it to someone you feel ALREADY IS past that "fine line." Like most looksmaxxing advice is legit to help people with SOME PERCEIVABLE CHANCE of being much better looking rather than just to help the person with zero GL default. Like I wanna see GENUINE, UNDISPUTABLE looksmaxxing advice for a guy with average everywhere & zero "oomph." I don't wanna hear how Chadlite can look better ... Show me how any sub 5 can pass that line!

Like, we can say how someone looks worse, better, or whether "it's over" or you're GL, but till this day NOBODY can clearly explain how someone not GL can be become GL. You can shrink a long midface on a horseface and he becomes less ugly but not necessarily GL. So averagecels or harmonycels DOOMED? How do we help those we CAN'T see ascending? Not quite some fixed rules or instructions anymore, eh?

We talk of how we know all that is looksmaxxing, but the second St. Blackops2cel steps in, or etc. we lose hope and question it all.

I can explain it somewhat well: just be correct

 

[Deleted member 21192]

High IQ;
People don't understand harmony is about how your features fit together
You could have a huge nose and it could fit your face, and a small nose wouldn't
You could have hunter eyes and it wouldn't fit your face, and prey eyes would

Sometimes you have the wrong features in your face and it ruins your harmony

this
its not that “hunter eyes good” and “huge nose bad”

 

[Deleted member 20704]

Sex appeal

But that's not entirely an exact science as subtle variances can make differences between different guys and their sex appeal potential.

Like imagine the "thugboy pheno" who gets tats, buzzcut, has robustness, etc. Now imagine St. Blackops2cel or Jsanza29 trying the same. It ain't just as simple as every guy doing 'X' and getting 'Y'. We know some 'thugs' get success, but every guy won't see the same by doing the same.

If that were the case then anyone here can just get tattoos, wear a wifebeater and listen to rap and be successful in that scene fairly easily.

Or go to the gym and get strong and get the "Chad jock treatment" or whatever. I think there is overlap but all paths don't work for all guys. Of course you can try and blend in but it is a lot looks based, right? Will a high trust guy fit well in a "low trust scene," and vice-versa?

I don't see too many high trust gangsters, or low-trust/DOM church-goers and computer programmers or anything else more "tame" seeming.

 

[thereallegend]

But that's not entirely an exact science as subtle variances can make differences between different guys and their sex appeal potential.

Like imagine the "thugboy pheno" who gets tats, buzzcut, has robustness, etc. Now imagine St. Blackops2cel or Jsanza29 trying the same. It ain't just as simple as every guy doing 'X' and getting 'Y'. We know some 'thugs' get success, but every guy won't see the same by doing the same.

If that were the case then anyone here can just get tattoos, wear a wifebeater and listen to rap and be successful in that scene fairly easily.

Or go to the gym and get strong and get the "Chad jock treatment" or whatever. I think there is overlap but all paths don't work for all guys. Of course you can try and blend in but it is a lot looks based, right? Will a high trust guy fit well in a "low trust scene," and vice-versa?

I don't see too many high trust gangsters, or low-trust/DOM church-goers and computer programmers or anything else more "tame" seeming.

BlackOps 2 Cel could use TikTok pretty boys as an example to increase sex appeal. It is based on pheno.

 

[Deleted member 21620]

Like we talk about how harmony is meme, blah blah but truth be told it is what draws that fine line between non-GL & GL that mystifies me.

NOBODY here or anywhere can perfectly explain it. We can pick apart the features and ratios of the GL but you cannot just copy these & go from non-GL to GL. That "touch" or "something" that lets you envision a HTN as a Chad, but how about invisible, nobody Joe turn in to Chad?

So it is legit BEYOND harmony and all that. You say get this surgery, that surgery, but often you're telling it to someone you feel ALREADY IS past that "fine line." Like most looksmaxxing advice is legit to help people with SOME PERCEIVABLE CHANCE of being much better looking rather than just to help the person with zero GL default. Like I wanna see GENUINE, UNDISPUTABLE looksmaxxing advice for a guy with average everywhere & zero "oomph." I don't wanna hear how Chadlite can look better ... Show me how any sub 5 can pass that line!

Like, we can say how someone looks worse, better, or whether "it's over" or you're GL, but till this day NOBODY can clearly explain how someone not GL can be become GL. You can shrink a long midface on a horseface and he becomes less ugly but not necessarily GL. So averagecels or harmonycels DOOMED? How do we help those we CAN'T see ascending? Not quite some fixed rules or instructions anymore, eh?

We talk of how we know all that is looksmaxxing, but the second St. Blackops2cel steps in, or etc. we lose hope and question it all.

lol

 

[Ceo of cope]

Agree with op but this is why the psl community as a whole needs to throw away all the bullshit like NT cope, thugmaxx cope, locationmaxx etc and focus on studying harmony and the remaining factors of being gl that we still havent discovered. (And arguably moneymaxxing so that we can make ourselfs gl when we find out what work we need done)

People out to slanderise Blackpill and claim it cant explain everything keep forgetting that as a science/field of study it is only like 10 years old in its current form and is mostly spearheaded by a niche group within a niche group within a niche group of internet autists. There is still a gigantic ammount of grounf to be convered when it comes to blackpill science (especially when ut comes to facial attractiveness) and it's still in its infancy. Channels like QOVES is doing its part in popularising it and drawing in bigger numbers but untill it becomes mainstream it will take centuries for blackpill to even be half complete