The evolutionary purpose of baldness

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

@Bewusst Thread on the cause of baldness:

Possible cure for hair loss - why hormones do not matter

I mentioned it already but I decided to make a thread about this. I hope you guys appreciate what I‘m about to share with you. I‘m tired of garbage threads. Hair loss, androgenetic alopecia or male pattern baldness, is not caused by DHT. DHT triggers it but only under a certain circumstance...

looksmax.org

Chadwick Boseman. Cancer. Andy Whitfield. Cancer.
2 nw0 Chads I know IRL, testicle cancer in their twenties.

Why are these people getting sick despite looking extremely healthy, including a perfect hairline?
Why are there so many cancer survivor stories of goodlooking nw0 men on youtube that are in their 30s and look 10 yrs younger?
You would expect living corpses to get cancer, but it's more often then not gl people?

The answer is the following:
High DNA methylation is not only pro hair, it is also pro cancer. Yes, that is right.
Low DNA methylation is contra hair, contra cancer.

GL/ good aging = rejuvenation of your DNA (methylation)
Every attempt to methylate increases CANCER RISK. There are papers on that I might add sources later too tired atm.

anabolism (growth) = high methylation, hair, and ultimately cancer
catabolism (self eating) = low methylation, no hair, no cancer

so if there is risk of cancer (enduced by environment) the body might force you into a catabolic state by inducing hypothyroidism and the whole shitty, lifeless cascade that leads to baldness and keeps cancer at bay.

BALDNESS IS THE END PRODUCT OF YOUR BODY FIGHTING OFF CANCER THROUGH DOWNREGULATION OF METHYLATION IN A CATABOLIC STATE
IT'S A LOGICAL EVOLUTIONARY RESPONSE TO KEEP OUR SPECIES ALIVE DESPITE OUR CARCINOGENIC ENVIRONMENT

Need to read more on methylation, too tired atm but wanted to write this down before I forget it tomorrow.

what do we do?
remove every carcinogenic source from life. I am starting with wifi, heated fats, estrogenic plastics. No cancer for me, thank you.

Increase methylation through @Bewusst protocol.
hopping on the protocol soon tbh, good for aging in general, not only hair to have strong methylation

I AM VERY OPEN TO CRITICISM BTW, AND NO I DO NOT THINK THIS PROTOCOL WILL REGROW HAIR BY ITSELF.

@Seth Walsh gtfih



THOUGHTS?

 

[HowAmIAlive123]

Dn rd
Take ur fin or ru

 

[BigBiceps]

Suifuel for nw0 guys

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

Suifuel for nw0 guys

nah, just reduce carcinogenics

 

[SheffieldSharter]

just norwood theory... legit. this may mean creatine CURES cancer.

 

[Baldingman1998]

How to increase methylation?!

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

How to increase methylation?!

click the fucking link

 

[St. Wristcel]

DN RD MY IQ IS 80 AND MY ATTENTION SPAN PUNY

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

jesus christ my post to reputation ratio is 2:1 soon


this is highest effort thread i ever created you better give me some reacts for my fried dopamine system

 

[Deleted member 275]

Creatine to cure cancer?!

 

[ahe3521starbo]

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

relevant quote: "The researchers hypothesized that a bright face signals that a bird is vigorous and virile--able to eat lots of dung and still fend off an army of parasites."

it's well-documented in a lot of different species that evidence of survival of life-threatening things is attractive in mates. like vultures that eat shit and don't die. but baldness is universally unattractive.

if there was truth in OP and baldness seriously had any kind of evolutionary advantage, it probably wouldn't be universally unattractive

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

relevant quote: "The researchers hypothesized that a bright face signals that a bird is vigorous and virile--able to eat lots of dung and still fend off an army of parasites."

it's well-documented in a lot of different species that evidence of survival of life-threatening things is attractive in mates. like vultures that eat shit and don't die. but baldness is universally unattractive.

if there was truth in OP and baldness seriously had any kind of evolutionary advantage, it probably wouldn't be universally unattractive

fair point, thanks

but you can make lots of arguments here

1. if baldness really signalizes longevity it makes sense that older women would choose them to take care of their offspring, which is arguably already happening. it also makes sense that they prefer men with hair for sex to not pass the catabolic state of the bald men on to their offspring through epigenetics. (condoms, birth control, family concepts interfere here)
2. we are humans, we have a thing called culture on top of our nature and that makes it hard to compare us to animals in that regard. and we are not exposed to all those carcinogenics for long now. put human in the state of nature, and things might pan out differently entirely. you could even argue here that nature never intended for women to choose their partners, but that the strongest males just take them for themselves.

etc etc

 

[ahe3521starbo]

those are good arguments too

we've spent most of our evolution under wildly different circumstances from the norm. for example, being short now is an advantage longevity-wise: less joint wear and tear, reduced relative load on organs, and generally much better health outcomes especially as we age. but it's universally unattractive because we evolved during times when those things didn't matter compared to being able to fight better, be more intimidating, etc.

in early-human times, if you lived long enough to die of cancer, chances are good that you had good genetics overall. surviving the cancer might not matter too much. i would guess that signaling longevity just doesn't matter that much in terms of what our lizard brains find attractive. it could be the case that baldness does signal longevity, but also signals things like poor nutrition, which mattered a lot when food was hard to come by. if that's the case, my assertion that "OP is untrue because baldness is seen as unattractive" doesn't really hold up. I'm not well-enough read on baldness specifically to make a strong argument, so I'll concede it to you.

the confounding factor of culture that you allude to probably dwarfs most of the things we're talking about, as you've said

 

[Yoyo2233]

So is hair good or bad? Going bald is good? Tf?

 

[Deleted member 7651]

Cope , my dad has hair (not even white) at 55 and smokes since 30 years , no cancer. I guess it s just a matter of time but still you get the point , no cancer for my nw0 genes

 

[Deleted member 2587]

d, gonna keep using minox and derma roll cope with muh jew vitamins

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

So is hair good or bad? Going bald is good? Tf?

its just a theory

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

Cope , my dad has hair (not even white) at 55 and smokes since 30 years , no cancer. I guess it s just a matter of time but still you get the point , no cancer for my nw0 genes

its just n=1, chill

I also never implied CAUSATION, rather than correlation

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

d, gonna keep using minox and derma roll cope with muh jew vitamins

over for your collagen

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

those are good arguments too

we've spent most of our evolution under wildly different circumstances from the norm. for example, being short now is an advantage longevity-wise: less joint wear and tear, reduced relative load on organs, and generally much better health outcomes especially as we age. but it's universally unattractive because we evolved during times when those things didn't matter compared to being able to fight better, be more intimidating, etc.

in early-human times, if you lived long enough to die of cancer, chances are good that you had good genetics overall. surviving the cancer might not matter too much. i would guess that signaling longevity just doesn't matter that much in terms of what our lizard brains find attractive. it could be the case that baldness does signal longevity, but also signals things like poor nutrition, which mattered a lot when food was hard to come by. if that's the case, my assertion that "OP is untrue because baldness is seen as unattractive" doesn't really hold up. I'm not well-enough read on baldness specifically to make a strong argument, so I'll concede it to you.

the confounding factor of culture that you allude to probably dwarfs most of the things we're talking about, as you've said

high iq response, agree with everything you said
just that I think cancer was extremely rare, quite possibly even nonexistent
not only because of the environment, but also because hunter gatherers went through periods of starvation during winter which are extremely catabolic and anti-carcinogenic.

 

[Deleted member 2587]

over for your collagen

Tales from fairytales

 

[Seth Walsh]

@Bewusst Thread on the cause of baldness:

Possible cure for hair loss - why hormones do not matter

I mentioned it already but I decided to make a thread about this. I hope you guys appreciate what I‘m about to share with you. I‘m tired of garbage threads. Hair loss, androgenetic alopecia or male pattern baldness, is not caused by DHT. DHT triggers it but only under a certain circumstance...

looksmax.org

Chadwick Boseman. Cancer. Andy Whitfield. Cancer.
2 nw0 Chads I know IRL, testicle cancer in their twenties.

Why are these people getting sick despite looking extremely healthy, including a perfect hairline?
Why are there so many cancer survivor stories of goodlooking nw0 men on youtube that are in their 30s and look 10 yrs younger?
You would expect living corpses to get cancer, but it's more often then not gl people?

The answer is the following:
High DNA methylation is not only pro hair, it is also pro cancer. Yes, that is right.
Low DNA methylation is contra hair, contra cancer.

GL/ good aging = rejuvenation of your DNA (methylation)
Every attempt to methylate increases CANCER RISK. There are papers on that I might add sources later too tired atm.

anabolism (growth) = high methylation, hair, and ultimately cancer
catabolism (self eating) = low methylation, no hair, no cancer

so if there is risk of cancer (enduced by environment) the body might force you into a catabolic state by inducing hypothyroidism and the whole shitty, lifeless cascade that leads to baldness and keeps cancer at bay.

BALDNESS IS THE END PRODUCT OF YOUR BODY FIGHTING OFF CANCER THROUGH DOWNREGULATION OF METHYLATION IN A CATABOLIC STATE
IT'S A LOGICAL EVOLUTIONARY RESPONSE TO KEEP OUR SPECIES ALIVE DESPITE OUR CARCINOGENIC ENVIRONMENT

Need to read more on methylation, too tired atm but wanted to write this down before I forget it tomorrow.

what do we do?
remove every carcinogenic source from life. I am starting with wifi, heated fats, estrogenic plastics. No cancer for me, thank you.

Increase methylation through @Bewusst protocol.
hopping on the protocol soon tbh, good for aging in general, not only hair to have strong methylation

I AM VERY OPEN TO CRITICISM BTW, AND NO I DO NOT THINK THIS PROTOCOL WILL REGROW HAIR BY ITSELF.

@Seth Walsh gtfih



THOUGHTS?

I’m really busy these days but I’ll reply at some stage

 

[Deleted member 6723]

So is hair good or bad? Going bald is good? Tf?

yes shave your head.

 

[Deleted member 6723]

yes shave your head.

that was a joke. I don't really know

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

 

[Deleted member 4563]

just go bald theory
hehe, my hair is thin as shit anyway

 

[Pietrosiek]

anabolism (growth) = high methylation, hair, and ultimately cancer
catabolism (self

Bald and skinny = good

Nwo and muscular = bad

Ok

 

[Pietrosiek]

Question is, if someone created this world, ehy he made hair and csncer corelated?

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

I’m really busy these days but I’ll reply at some stage

am I high iq?

hoping you are RITALINMAXXED when you reply NGL

I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTION OF

CANCER
BALDNESS
METABOLISM
METHYLATION
HYPOTHYROIDISM

EVEN BETTER.


YOU KNOW MUCH MORE ABOUT METABOLISM THAN ME.


I THINK THE ANSWER TO WHY WE BALD IS IN THIS INTERACTION OF METABOLISM AND METHYLATION TBH

CLASSICAL MPB PARADIGM: DNA
NEW MPB RESEARCH: METABOLISM


THIS IS THE UNIFYING META THEORY



PROOF ME WRONG

 

[Deleted member 8846]

I think Andy Whitfield was more nw1 than nw0, could be wrong tho. I'm thinking he just had a mature hairline, but no actual balding

 

[Deleted member 8846]

Why make anything and cancer correlated? Answer: God is a stupid fucking faggot

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

I think Andy Whitfield was more nw1 than nw0, could be wrong tho. I'm thinking he just had a mature hairline, but no actual balding

its not just about hair, its about looks in general
you would think worse looks= worse health = more cancer when in reality it's the same or quite possibly even the other way around

think about it. cancer became the n1 death cause in the last centuries. its the no 1 threat to our species

in this time, all sorts of physical stunting has taken place, not just hair. people are not growing properly anymore, hence why we are here.

i argue that this is because our species adapts to the carcinogenics by sucking the life out of us metabolically to keep the existential threat at bay

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

Why make anything and cancer correlated? Answer: God is a stupid fucking faggot

thank your parents, grandparents and all those retarded boomers paving the way for amoral neoliberal late stage capitalism for it

you would be a chad if not for them

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

its not just about hair, its about looks in general
you would think worse looks= worse health = more cancer when in reality it's the same or quite possibly even the other way around

think about it. cancer became the n1 death cause in the last centuries. its the no 1 threat to our species

in this time, all sorts of physical stunting has taken place, not just hair. people are not growing properly anymore, hence why we are here.

i argue that this is because our species adapts to the carcinogenics by sucking the life out of us metabolically to keep the existential threat at bay

basically our bodies give us a "chemo light" permanently by forcing us in this disgusting catabolic state

 

[Yoyo2233]

its not just about hair, its about looks in general
you would think worse looks= worse health = more cancer when in reality it's the same or quite possibly even the other way around

think about it. cancer became the n1 death cause in the last centuries. its the no 1 threat to our species

in this time, all sorts of physical stunting has taken place, not just hair. people are not growing properly anymore, hence why we are here.

i argue that this is because our species adapts to the carcinogenics by sucking the life out of us metabolically to keep the existential threat at bay

So having hair is bad wtf?

 

[Deleted member 4209]

too high iq for offtopic

 

[Deleted member 6095]

I think it's just a side effect of the drugs suppressing the immune system. The people who ACTUALLY don't bald at all (native americans) just don't have any dht receptive hair. No extra cancer for them. They actually lived quite long despite smoking and whatnot.

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

I think it's just a side effect of the drugs suppressing the immune system. The people who ACTUALLY don't bald at all (native americans) just don't have any dht receptive hair. No extra cancer for them. They actually lived quite long despite smoking and whatnot.

dude, just because native americans smoke it does not mean they were even close to the exposure to carcinogens as we are

the reaper will come for them soon enough, especially through interracial breeding

 

[Deleted member 8064]

Legit don't give a single fuck. Hair is aesthetics. Aesthetics > Everything.

 

[Deleted member 5809]

@Bewusst

what do we do?
remove every carcinogenic source from life. I am starting with wifi, heated fats, estrogenic plastics. No cancer for me, thank you.

how the fuck am i supposed to live without wifi when my work requires me to sit behind a computer 8 hours a day?

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

Legit don't give a single fuck. Hair is aesthetics. Aesthetics > Everything.

i only care about it as a cure ankle
rather die at 40 with hair lol

how the fuck am i supposed to live without wifi when my work requires me to sit behind a computer 8 hours a day?

ethernet

 

[Deleted member 5809]

i only care about it as a cure ankle
rather die at 40 with hair lol

ethernet

i can't, there's wifi everywhere around me. all my neighbors have wifi too

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

Wifis further away matter far less
What matters is the computer in front of you and the phone in your hand
As well as possibly your router