The existence of objects is merely nominal.

[imontheloose]

Mereological nihilism. Does anything in the world really begin to exist?

The Kalam cosmological argument immediately springs to mind.

P1: Everything which begins to exist has a cause;
P2: The universe began to exist;

C: Therefore, the universe has a cause.

But does anything really begin to exist in the way necessary here? Rearranging material with a new name is a fair reductio for what turned already existing parts into the car. If the only thing which makes the car, the car; the fork, the fork, and the clock, the clock, the label I give to it then there is no real difference between the car, the fork, or the clock except an imaginary box called the name.

This can be really counterintuitive, but give it a think! Do you think it's nominal or not? Is identity a property, or something we project onto a noun? I quite like the style of thought applied here.

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ]

The universe is cool

 

[org3cel.RR]

Mereological nihilism. Does anything in the world really begin to exist?

The Kalam cosmological argument immediately springs to mind.

P1: Everything which begins to exist has a cause;
P2: The universe began to exist;

C: Therefore, the universe has a cause.

But does anything really begin to exist in the way necessary here? Rearranging material with a new name is a fair reductio for what turned already existing parts into the car. If the only thing which makes the car, the car; the fork, the fork, and the clock, the clock, the label I give to it then there is no real difference between the car, the fork, or the clock except an imaginary box called the name.

This can be really counterintuitive, but give it a think! Do you think it's nominal or not? Is identity a property, or something we project onto a noun? I quite like the style of thought applied here.

Gonna club at the moment will read later seems interesting

 

[org3cel.RR]

The universe is cool

Mod now?

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ]

Mod now?

My reality now

 

[imontheloose]

Mod now?

And contributor.

 

[Squidwardmaxx]

Mod now?

what does your signature mean? do you have full trust in what u wrote there?

 

[org3cel.RR]

My reality now

Very interesting on how u scaled the social ladder in an incel forum in matter of 3 months, from an average guy with a orange name to a mod and contributor
Really nice work mate

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Gonna club at the moment will read later seems interesting

The clubbing at the moment in question: Last seen 1 minute ago ·

 

[aladdinmaxxer]

Mereological nihilism. Does anything in the world really begin to exist?

The Kalam cosmological argument immediately springs to mind.

P1: Everything which begins to exist has a cause;
P2: The universe began to exist;

C: Therefore, the universe has a cause.

But does anything really begin to exist in the way necessary here? Rearranging material with a new name is a fair reductio for what turned already existing parts into the car. If the only thing which makes the car, the car; the fork, the fork, and the clock, the clock, the label I give to it then there is no real difference between the car, the fork, or the clock except an imaginary box called the name.

This can be really counterintuitive, but give it a think! Do you think it's nominal or not? Is identity a property, or something we project onto a noun? I quite like the style of thought applied here.

r u studying bachelor/master in oxford bhai?

 

[imontheloose]

r u studying bachelor/master in oxford bhai?

Engineering, yes!

 

[inversions]

Engineering, yes!

What did u get in ur a levels?

 

[imontheloose]

What did u get in ur a levels?

A*A*A*A.

 

[inversions]

A*A*A*A.

How was fm?

Im planning on studying it outside of school

 

[imontheloose]

How was fm?

Im planning on studying it outside of school

I enjoyed it. There was only 2 of us, including me, who carried it on into year 13!

I really enjoy maths. I used to spend a bunch of time here helping people with all sorts of maths and physics problems when that one Indian guy was posting his homework here haha.

 

[inversions]

I enjoyed it. There was only 2 of us, including me, who carried it on into year 13!

I really enjoy maths. I used to spend a bunch of time here helping people with all sorts of maths and physics problems when that one Indian guy was posting his homework here haha.

Great

Also how did you deal with motivation?

Personally, I cant be bothered to study even though naturally im relatively smart and therefore when i was younger my parents pushed me enough to get me far

But now, for example in gcses i barely had the motivation to revise

So i feel like im gonna have to be extremely productive next year while balancing 5 AS levels and extracurriculars

So any tips or was it just passion?

 

[imontheloose]

Great

Also how did you deal with motivation?

Personally, I cant be bothered to study even though naturally im relatively smart and therefore when i was younger my parents pushed me enough to get me far

But now, for example in gcses i barely had the motivation to revise

So i feel like im gonna have to be extremely productive next year while balancing 5 AS levels and extracurriculars

So any tips or was it just passion?

I didn’t really need motivation. I just crammed the night before for the other subjects. Maths & FM I didn’t revise for because I knew them well enough where I’d be able to prove whatever I needed to (that was how I understood a topic: being able to prove it effectively from first principles) even if I got stuck on remembering formulae that wasn’t included in the formula sheet.

 

[inversions]

I didn’t really need motivation. I just crammed the night before for the other subjects. Maths & FM I didn’t revise for because I knew them well enough where I’d be able to prove whatever I needed to (that was how I understood a topic: being able to prove it effectively from first principles) even if I got stuck on remembering formulae that wasn’t included in the formula sheet.

Yeah thats what i did for gcses

I thought that it wouldnt work for A levels

Thanks for the help man

 

[imontheloose]

Yeah thats what i did for gcses

I thought that it wouldnt work for A levels

Thanks for the help man

Everyone is different!

 

[inversions]

Everyone is different!

Yep

Im just gonna try to be consistent and hopefully fix my habits

Cramming worked pretty well for gcses tbf

Last question, it’s worth studying fm outside of school right? My other option would be to become a doctor because I picked math bio chem and econ inside of school.

I plan on dropping either chem or bio after AS and just do 4 a levels in total including FM

 

[imontheloose]

Yep

Im just gonna try to be consistent and hopefully fix my habits

Cramming worked pretty well for gcses tbf

Last question, it’s worth studying fm outside of school right? My other option would be to become a doctor because I picked math bio chem and econ inside of school.

I plan on dropping either chem or bio after AS and just do 4 a levels in total including FM

Sure. Just don’t overwhelm yourself. That’s the worst thing you could do.

 

[inversions]

Sure. Just don’t overwhelm yourself. That’s the worst thing you could do.

Thank you

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

But does anything really begin to exist in the way necessary here?

if something is created ex nihilo than I suppose so

Mereological nihilism. Does anything in the world really begin to exist?

The Kalam cosmological argument immediately springs to mind.

P1: Everything which begins to exist has a cause;
P2: The universe began to exist;

C: Therefore, the universe has a cause.

But does anything really begin to exist in the way necessary here? Rearranging material with a new name is a fair reductio for what turned already existing parts into the car. If the only thing which makes the car, the car; the fork, the fork, and the clock, the clock, the label I give to it then there is no real difference between the car, the fork, or the clock except an imaginary box called the name.

This can be really counterintuitive, but give it a think! Do you think it's nominal or not? Is identity a property, or something we project onto a noun? I quite like the style of thought applied here.

Theres a principle in set theory called the well ordering principle, which is to say that a set is well ordered if the set has a clear beginning and each sub set has a beginning and an end.

it turns out that all sets can be well ordered, even sets like real numbers can be well ordered.

in a vaguely similar way we can think of each instance in reality being caused by the preceding one, instead of necessarily thinking of distinct objects having a cause and effect relation with eachother

additionally Platos theory of forms states that this world is just and illusion, a projection of the higher world of "forms"

all things participate in trying to "mimic" for lack of a better word the ideal world of forms

a circle is a circle because it participates in the trying to be like the ideal form of a circle

if we accept this theory than the distinctions between a clock, a fork or a car are no longer arbitrary.

its no longer an arrangement of simples that we assign a name to but instead each of those objects participates in its own form, making them distinct.

personally Im not a believer in platos theory of forms but I just thought about it when reading this post.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Engineering, yes!

why is every user here either or a neet or a stemcel

theres literally no in between

even I myself am going for a stemcel degree soon

 

[imontheloose]

if something is created ex nihilo than I suppose so

Theres a principle in set theory called the well ordering principle, which is to say that a set is well ordered if the set has a clear beginning and each sub set has a beginning and an end.

it turns out that all sets can be well ordered, even sets like real numbers can be well ordered.

in a vaguely similar way we can think of each instance in reality being caused by the preceding one, instead of necessarily thinking of distinct objects having a cause and effect relation with eachother

additionally Platos theory of forms states that this world is just and illusion, a projection of the higher world of "forms"

all things participate in trying to "mimic" for lack of a better word the ideal world of forms

a circle is a circle because it participates in the trying to be like the ideal form of a circle

if we accept this theory than the distinctions between a clock, a fork or a car are no longer arbitrary.

its no longer an arrangement of simples that we assign a name to but instead each of those objects participates in its own form, making them distinct.

personally Im not a believer in platos theory of forms but I just thought about it when reading this post.

Set theory mathematical applications have traumatised me and I can no longer appreciate this post.

But yes, this is a Plato’s style question!

 

[imontheloose]

why is every user here either or a neet or a stemcel

theres literally no in between

even I myself am going for a stemcel degree soon

Both have sizeable ND %.

 

[underatedgreycel]

Engineering, yes!

Holy cortisol

 

[imontheloose]

Thank you

You’re very welcome!

 

[Popstar867]

A*A*A*A.

Should’ve went to Cambridge

 

[imontheloose]

Should’ve went to Cambridge

Haha! My older brother went.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Set theory mathematical applications have traumatised me and I can no longer appreciate this post.

But yes, this is a Plato’s style question!

I think I want to start learning more about classical philosophy

I was reading the nichomachean ethics but I dropped it and started reading the ego and its own by Stirner and I never picked it back up

most of the philosophy Ive consumed has been enlightenment to late 1800s existentialist philosophy

It would be nice to see where it all began

 

[imontheloose]

I think I want to start learning more about classical philosophy

I was reading the nichomachean ethics but I dropped it and started reading the ego and its own by Stirner and I never picked it back up

most of the philosophy Ive consumed has been enlightenment to late 1800s existentialist philosophy

It would be nice to see where it all began

Classical is very cool! Definitely read some. Plato’s work is pretty good to start on, funny enough.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Set theory mathematical applications have traumatised me and I can no longer appreciate this post.

I love proof based mathematics

Ive only had a taste of it when i took calc II and you have to prove whether a series diverges or converges etc

something about proofs is so beautiful.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Classical is very cool! Definitely read some. Plato’s work is pretty good to start on, funny enough.

I used to be big subscriber of kantian ethics

 

[imontheloose]

I love proof based mathematics

Ive only had a taste of it when i took calc II and you have to prove whether a series diverges or converges etc

something about proofs is so beautiful.

Haha! Fantastic, isn’t it just?

I am very much a, I cannot use it unless I can prove it, guy. Calculus III is really fun. We don’t call it that here, but I’ve spoken with enough people to know what each of these things entail.

 

[imontheloose]

I used to be big subscriber of kantian ethics

Last words allegedly, “it’s fine”. A very lonely man.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Last words allegedly, “it’s fine”. A very lonely man.

loneliness seems to be the fate of most philosophers

I cannot use it unless I can prove it, guy.

I'm similar

any time I learn a math or physics concept I always try to understand fundamentally why it works, and if I cant I just look up a YT video explaining it

its a behavior that of mine that sometimes gets to the point of obsession.

 

[imontheloose]

its a behavior that of mine that sometimes gets to the point of obsession.

I'm the same. I am very obsessive. Neurodivergent trait.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

I'm the same. I am very obsessive. Neurodivergent trait.

autism is an aristocratic trait

 

[imontheloose]

autism is an aristocratic trait

Ontologically ideal.

 

[gooner23]

tbh the exact opposite is just as true does anything really matter outside of our personal experience, i experience luxury, cars, clothes but a difference experience is from different bands and event what its made from. can be both right

I THINK THEREFORE I AM

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Haha! Fantastic, isn’t it just?

There is a creative aspect to proof based math that I enjoy

 

[imontheloose]

tbh the exact opposite is just as true does anything really matter outside of our personal experience, i experience luxury, cars, clothes but a difference experience is from different bands and event what its made from. can be both right

I THINK THEREFORE I AM

The beauty about these discussions is we are all hypothesising equally as true statements as one another!

 

[imontheloose]

There is a creative aspect to proof based math that I enjoy

I remember discovering Heron’s formula as I was doing rough work on proving cool shortcuts and the such when I was about 15. I was heartbroken to see it had already been discovered. How naive of me at the time to believe humanity has been so stupid!

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

I remember discovering Heron’s formula as I was doing rough work on proving cool shortcuts and the such when I was about 15. I was heartbroken to see it had already been discovered. How naive of me at the time to believe humanity has been so stupid!

You could have got extra credit or something maybe

Also on somewhat of a tangent it’s strange that humans evolved to be so intelligent

It’s obvious how intelligence can be a survival advantage but surely intelligence to the point where humans can comprehend all these abstract topics is excessive

 

[imontheloose]

You could have got extra credit or something maybe

Also on somewhat of a tangent it’s strange that humans evolved to be so intelligent

It’s obvious how intelligence can be a survival advantage but surely intelligence to the point where humans can comprehend all these abstract topics is excessive

It is indeed. It’s a consequence of the intelligence we utilised and it obviously worked and we simply never evolved to live without these thoughts. Humans weren’t mean to reason the complexities of the universe.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

It is indeed. It’s a consequence of the intelligence we utilised and it obviously worked and we simply never evolved to live without these thoughts. Humans weren’t mean to reason the complexities of the universe.

It’s interesting to think of how intelligent humans could have been

Theres only so much space in the skull and although you can arrange neurons in many different ways

The amount of ways is still limited

Imagine an alien race where the average member of their species is as intelligent as Isaac Newton

Just the thought scares me.

 

[imontheloose]

It’s interesting to think of how intelligent humans could have been

Theres only so much space in the skull and although you can arrange neurons in many different ways

The amount of ways is still limited

Imagine an alien race where the average member of their species is as intelligent as Isaac Newton

Just the thought scares me.

Pretty sure we had a cousin who was stronger and smarter than us; not sure which one it was now, but their critical flaw was their inability to communicate effectively. That was where we came in!

 

[KYS RETARD COPERS]

Beginning is always the result of something else, in other words nothing is "beginning", its just something changing.

 

[org3cel.RR]

The clubbing at the moment in question: Last seen 1 minute ago ·

Clubbing rn lol, did a jack and daniel with coke and cola and another cup of rum and cola and 3 shots
Not gonna drink much more so I dont get fucked up tomorrow