The fact that normies get laid is proof that looks are not the cause of inceldom

It's all LMS based on my experience. Otherwise surgery wouldn't have helped me. I also know many social outgoing extroverted people who are incel. The vast majority of normie and below ethnic men just get arranged marriages or wait until their hit their 30s and end up being used as a 2nd choice. Average white men might be able to get one or two girlfriends before their 30s and might even be able to get a handful of ons.

There are even legit schizophrenic and autistic guys with girlfriends and sex lives, so saying mental illness is holding you back is nonsense.

You also have to take anything you read on this forum with a grain of salt. There are undercover Pua/redpill/bluepill shills trying to push various narratives.

If the good looking posters here who claim to be incel are genuine and not trolls or Pua shills, they are extreme outliers. Or have extremely high standards. Back on puahate and sluthate when I would do online dating experiments I would use pictures of the good looking guys who would post on those forums claiming to be incel and would easily get matches.
 
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It’s looks tbh. A lot of incels here are NTs who got dismantled because they’re manlet or sub 5. Yes non NT ‘gl’ exist but tbh themrr always uncanny looking and ‘unconventionally ugly’
No one here looks like the stereotypical NT normie with a gf tbh. All weird faces.
 
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Also look shit in 3d motion with awkward expressions.
Not even surgery can fix it either since it's basically set in stone. Feel like screaming at a wall now.
 
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It's all LMS based on my experience. Otherwise surgery wouldn't have helped me. I also know many social outgoing extroverted people who are incel. The vast majority of normie and below ethnic men just get arranged marriages or wait until their hit their 30s and end up being used as a 2nd choice. Average white men might be able to get one or two girlfriends before their 30s and might even be able to get a handful of ons.

There are even legit schizophrenic and autistic guys with girlfriends and sex lives, so saying mental illness is holding you back is nonsense.

You also have to take anything you read on this forum with a grain of salt. There are undercover Pua/redpill/bluepill shills trying to push various narratives.

If the good looking posters here who claim to be incel are genuine and not trolls or Pua shills, they are extreme outliers. Or have extremely high standards. Back on puahate and sluthate when I would do online dating experiments I would use pictures of the good looking guys who would post on those forums claiming to be incel and would easily get matches.
you are calling people shills while saying there are autistic guys with girlfriends? that doesn’t make any sense at all. autistic with a gf is like saying 3ft tall nba player. also you went out your way to shill surgery on my thread

surgery is pure utter cope i would never get it, only thing i would get is a surgery that makes me NT but that’s impossible.

i don’t know a single incel in real life but me, even the ugliest shortest fat retards had gfs, the fact that this site is full of above average looking virgins should tell you everything
 
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It’s looks tbh. A lot of incels here are NTs who got dismantled because they’re manlet or sub 5. Yes non NT ‘gl’ exist but tbh they are always uncanny looking and ‘unconventionally ugly’
the only NT people i have seen on this site are the non incel users
 
Inceldom causes non NT
that’s how it is for most incels

born normal > bad upbringing > fail to hit developmental milestones through bad upbringing/environment > become non nt > find incel forums > become even more non nt
 
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that’s how it is for most incels

born ugly normal > bad upbringing > fail to hit developmental milestones through bad looks upbringing/environment > become non nt > find incel forums > become even more non nt
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just kill yourself at this point, if you have an account on org. life is miserable and holds no value, while you a literal no one.. cries about fucking women which they cant, putin and beijing retarded mentalcels who have everything in life, power, girls, everyrhing you can think of, do whatver they want to innocent no ones like you and me, start wars without problems and kills, its over for us no ones
 
It’s looks tbh. A lot of incels here are NTs who got dismantled because they’re manlet or sub 5. Yes non NT ‘gl’ exist but tbh they are always uncanny looking and ‘unconventionally ugly’
Cope
 
that’s how it is for most incels

born normal > bad upbringing > fail to hit developmental milestones through bad upbringing/environment > become non nt > find incel forums > become even more non nt
I’m both non NT and ugly tbh nevar began
 
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how do you explain ugly normies with gfs
I will explain it when I see it.

But since 80% of men are incels, I doubt I will see this.
 
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Yeah, same for LTR
 
I can't believe that there are still NT vs looks discussions to this day when there are threads on a daily basis of normies with their girlfriends, these guys are commonly bug eyed, weak jaw, weird facial features, short, bad frame and yet they still managed to get laid. The fact that you created an account for this God forsaken forum is a clear indicator that something is seriously wrong with your psyche, which explains this place being full of virgins even though we are looksmaxxed and look better than irl normies.

The niggas like me who are virgin at 20+, who have experienced a lifetime of inceldom, who have experienced bullying, who were insulted due to not fitting in, who have experienced social anxiety, who have done almost everything to escape inceldom and still failed, who get rejected 30 times in a row, we are actually better looking than those who are succeeding.

Every single time someone pulls some example from his ass where some so called "non-NT" guy gets laid, the guy is not a true autistic and most of the time he doesn't even have any acquired social awkwardness. Usually just an NT normie seeking attention. For example, I have seen plenty of ugly guys, skinny guys, fat guys, short guys with GFs but I have never seen a young guy get laid who has real mental issues and/or bad upbringing which is me for my entire life. In the end, looks matter for stuff like modelling but for just getting sex and relationships it's not everything, everyone who starts another "face > all" or "height > all" propaganda thread can suck my unused 7 inch incel dick and I would suggest mods to delete such threads.

If I ever again stumble upon some brag, slaying thread, I will immediately stop reading it and delete it from my browser history. The only advice I am going to take is from niggas who are like what I described above and who really know the pains of inceldom instead of blaming it on such cope like millimetres of bone. Fakecel larpers scum who always had a good life and had imaginary problems ascending because they created false suffering inside their good environment, I will not read a single atom of their nonsense.
No one here looks like the stereotypical NT normie with a gf tbh. All weird faces.
My correlations here with u and OP's point is that a lot of autistics have been found to share similar facial features and related characteristics which aren't shared by NT peers which verified studies have often found. And what I've often noticed on this forum is users looking similar to each other and acting similar in ways which I don't notice with NT circles with looks nor socialising, so maybe OP has a point with his NT opposition towards the black pill and a lot of virgins being non-NT.
 
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I can't believe that there are still NT vs looks discussions to this day when there are threads on a daily basis of normies with their girlfriends, these guys are commonly bug eyed, weak jaw, weird facial features, short, bad frame and yet they still managed to get laid. The fact that you created an account for this God forsaken forum is a clear indicator that something is seriously wrong with your psyche, which explains this place being full of virgins even though we are looksmaxxed and look better than irl normies.

The niggas like me who are virgin at 20+, who have experienced a lifetime of inceldom, who have experienced bullying, who were insulted due to not fitting in, who have experienced social anxiety, who have done almost everything to escape inceldom and still failed, who get rejected 30 times in a row, we are actually better looking than those who are succeeding.

Every single time someone pulls some example from his ass where some so called "non-NT" guy gets laid, the guy is not a true autistic and most of the time he doesn't even have any acquired social awkwardness. Usually just an NT normie seeking attention. For example, I have seen plenty of ugly guys, skinny guys, fat guys, short guys with GFs but I have never seen a young guy get laid who has real mental issues and/or bad upbringing which is me for my entire life. In the end, looks matter for stuff like modelling but for just getting sex and relationships it's not everything, everyone who starts another "face > all" or "height > all" propaganda thread can suck my unused 7 inch incel dick and I would suggest mods to delete such threads.

If I ever again stumble upon some brag, slaying thread, I will immediately stop reading it and delete it from my browser history. The only advice I am going to take is from niggas who are like what I described above and who really know the pains of inceldom instead of blaming it on such cope like millimetres of bone. Fakecel larpers scum who always had a good life and had imaginary problems ascending because they created false suffering inside their good environment, I will not read a single atom of their nonsense.
Nigga its not about getting laid. Even balding pajeet with 3 kids got laid.
It's about slaying, mogging and feeding on validation
 
Nigga its not about getting laid. Even balding pajeet with 3 kids got laid.
It's about slaying, mogging and feeding on validation
if you care about mogging it’s because this site drilled that into your head. no one without an .org account cares about that or even knows it exists

and slayers are rare, only a very small amount of men slay yet i dont see mass suicide happening because of that
 
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It is because of your looks you dumbass.

Most people here are MTNs and LTNs and they never once in their worthless miserable life’s experienced true affection from MTBs+.

Dating a sub5 girl doesn’t count.
 
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Most normies date below their looksmatch @Canwefixit
 
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It is because of your looks you dumbass.

Most people here are MTNs and LTNs and they never once in their worthless miserable life’s experienced true affection from MTBs+.

Dating a sub5 girl doesn’t count.
you’re not taking age and location into account. there’s plenty of ugly 14 year old boys with good looking gfs their age while decent looking 25 year old men post on this site as virgins

how the fuck can it be due to looks if there’s boys half my age with gfs and i live in a country where even the ugliest shortest guys possible get laid (if they are nt enough)
 
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I can't believe that there are still NT vs looks discussions to this day when there are threads on a daily basis of normies with their girlfriends, these guys are commonly bug eyed, weak jaw, weird facial features, short, bad frame and yet they still managed to get laid. The fact that you created an account for this God forsaken forum is a clear indicator that something is seriously wrong with your psyche, which explains this place being full of virgins even though we are looksmaxxed and look better than irl normies.

The niggas like me who are virgin at 20+, who have experienced a lifetime of inceldom, who have experienced bullying, who were insulted due to not fitting in, who have experienced social anxiety, who have done almost everything to escape inceldom and still failed, who get rejected 30 times in a row, we are actually better looking than those who are succeeding.

Every single time someone pulls some example from his ass where some so called "non-NT" guy gets laid, the guy is not a true autistic and most of the time he doesn't even have any acquired social awkwardness. Usually just an NT normie seeking attention. For example, I have seen plenty of ugly guys, skinny guys, fat guys, short guys with GFs but I have never seen a young guy get laid who has real mental issues and/or bad upbringing which is me for my entire life. In the end, looks matter for stuff like modelling but for just getting sex and relationships it's not everything, everyone who starts another "face > all" or "height > all" propaganda thread can suck my unused 7 inch incel dick and I would suggest mods to delete such threads.

If I ever again stumble upon some brag, slaying thread, I will immediately stop reading it and delete it from my browser history. The only advice I am going to take is from niggas who are like what I described above and who really know the pains of inceldom instead of blaming it on such cope like millimetres of bone. Fakecel larpers scum who always had a good life and had imaginary problems ascending because they created false suffering inside their good environment, I will not read a single atom of their nonsense.
Normies don't get laid, they get LTR/ marriage, but not actually laid like ONS or hookups
 
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Normies don't get laid, they get LTR/ marriage, but not actually laid like ONS or hookups
correct
muh "i see a subhuman with a gf"
= OP doesnt understand oofy doofy/ beta buxx AT ALL

op (and others) please do yourself a favor and read incel wiki/ the BASICS of the black pill
 
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NT matters but looks are still most important. If you’re good looking and have an NT personality you will get laid regardless of anything else (money, status etc).
 
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...........is for IDIOTS, and horrible people, srs....there will ALWAYS be people that MOGG you btw, and the object of life is to have a GOOD life not strut around looking for "muh mogg" :feelskek:
 
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90% of retards here who complain about "hypergamy" just have unrealistic standards/expectations, but dont have the balls to admit it to themselves, hence all these farfetched constructions about evil women and "chad only" memes
 
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muh "i see a subhuman with a gf"
= OP doesnt understand oofy doofy/ beta buxx AT ALL

op (and others) please do yourself a favor and read incel wiki/ the BASICS of the black pill
i disregard old 40yo+ couples and i don’t live in a rich area. i only pay attention to 15-35 year old couples
 
...........is for IDIOTS, and horrible people, srs....there will ALWAYS be people that MOGG you btw, and the object of life is to have a GOOD life not strut around looking for "muh mogg" :feelskek:
this is true
 
I only escaped inceldom by doing steroids and putting shirtless ripped selfies on tinder. Before that it was just brutal rejection.

I’m obviously fairly autistic. I fully believe in black pill.
 
There are even legit schizophrenic and autistic guys with girlfriends and sex lives, so saying mental illness is holding you back is nonsense.
Mentally ill chads
 
I won't even bother deconstructing this garbage of a thread.

Do this thought experiment. You said that you had bad upbringing/bullying/negative reinforcement that made you "non NT".

Now imagine if you were, for example, 30cm taller with huge frame. Would any of those things happened to you then?
 
I won't even bother deconstructing this garbage of a thread.

Do this thought experiment. You said that you had bad upbringing/bullying/negative reinforcement that made you "non NT".

Now imagine if you were, for example, 30cm taller with huge frame. Would any of those things happened to you then?
all of the things i talked about happened to me before i was an adult, everything happened when i was a child to 14-15 years old. so even if i was 200cm or taller with huge frame it wouldn’t matter because i would still be fucked in the head from my past experiences

on the other hand plenty of short poor idiots with shit facial features never had to suffer how i did, even though they get giga mogged by most incels on this forum
 
imagine still being stuck on alfafux betabux denial stage. sapience 404
 
all of the things i talked about happened to me before i was an adult, everything happened when i was a child to 14-15 years old. so even if i was 200cm or taller with huge frame it wouldn’t matter because i would still be fucked in the head from my past experiences

on the other hand plenty of short poor idiots with shit facial features never had to suffer how i did, even though they get giga mogged by most incels on this forum
You don't seem to understand.

If you were 200cm tall with huge frame, people wouldn't fuck with you in the first place + you would have been 100 times more confident because of your height. How are you this stupid to not understand this?

Did you get mentally ill on your own?

Also, to this day I'm searching for that mythical poor, short, ugly, indian janitor idiots that got laid both in the present moment and in my memories of the past, and there are none to be found.

MTNs-HTNs without major falios managed to get gfs through severe simpmaxxing while Chadlites and Chads slayed. I as a acne ridden LTN was done for. That is all that I know before my 20s.
 
imagine still being stuck on alfafux betabux denial stage. sapience 404
imagine replying without reading the thread. i was talking about young poor normies who don’t have anywhere near as much money required to betabux. not old rich betabuxx idiots
 
You don't seem to understand.

If you were 200cm tall with huge frame, people wouldn't fuck with you in the first place + you would have been 100 times more confident because of your height. How are you this stupid to not understand this?

Did you get mentally ill on your own?

Also, to this day I'm searching for that mythical poor, short, ugly, indian janitor idiots that got laid both in the present moment and in my memories of the past, and there are none to be found.

MTNs-HTNs without major falios managed to get gfs through severe simpmaxxing while Chadlites and Chads slayed. I as an acne ridden LTN was done for. That is all that I know before my 20s.
no one is 200cm with a huge frame at age 15 and below you fucking moron. all my problems with my upbringing and environment were from age 5-15. but speaking of height i have a decent height already, not super tall but above average.

maybe your country is more hypergamous than mine but i knew tons of short poor retards with subhuman faces (some barely LTN facially) who were able to get multiple gfs while i was in my bedroom alone rotting every single day
 
no one is 200cm with a huge frame at age 15 and below you fucking moron. all my problems with my upbringing and environment were from age 5-15. but speaking of height i have a decent height already, not super tall but above average.

maybe your country is more hypergamous than mine but i knew tons of short poor retards with subhuman faces (some barely LTN facially) who were able to get multiple gfs while i was in my bedroom alone rotting every single day
I said 200cm because you said it dumbass.

So what is your plan from now on? Do you want to ascend? What are you planning to do to ascend?

You will never ascend by "ntmaxxing" or some bullshit like that if you are 20+
 
I said 200cm because you said it dumbass.

So what is your plan from now on? Do you want to ascend? What are you planning to do to ascend?

You will never ascend by "ntmaxxing" or some bullshit like that if you are 20+
obviously i would like to ascend but i can't ascend at all as i am mindbroken and don't have a single friend in real life anymore. most people on this site will never ascend, it hurts but it is the brutal truth
 
Most normies are paying with money, disrespect and demasculinization to keep an average girl with an inflated ego who brings nothing but a used pussy to the table. No blowjobs, dead starfish sex twice a week if lucky. LTR as a normie isn’t worth it tbh. Seen normie friends being paraded around by their LTR. Normies still stick with their LTR just to fit in. Funny shit is mfs will peer pressure you to betabuxx too.
 
Most normies are paying with money, disrespect and demasculinization to keep an average girl with an inflated ego who brings nothing but a used pussy to the table. No blowjobs, dead starfish sex twice a week if lucky. LTR as a normie isn’t worth it tbh. Seen normie friends being paraded around by their LTR. Normies still stick with their LTR just to fit in. Funny shit is mfs will peer pressure you to betabuxx too.
how many fucking times do i need to say that im talking about young poor normies who dont have anywhere near the amount of money required to betabux. im not referring to old couples who barely have sex.
 
how many fucking times do i need to say that im talking about young poor normies who dont have anywhere near the amount of money required to betabux. im not referring to old couples who barely have sex.
I’m talking about young normies too. I know two of em closely, spend all paycheck from wageslaving on entertaining their LTRs, ig they feel like thats the only way to keep their LTRs, they somehow instinctively know thats the value they provide in the relationship. They look genuinely happy tho, being non-NT is a curse.
 
I’m talking about young normies too. I know two of em closely, spend all paycheck from wageslaving on entertaining their LTRs, ig they feel like thats the only way to keep their LTRs, they somehow instinctively know thats the value they provide in the relationship. They look genuinely happy tho, being non-NT is a curse.
how old are these guys
 
how old are these guys
Both are 25, maybe its different for a high school crowd but this is what waits you after college
 
Both are 25, maybe its different for a high school crowd but this is what waits you after college
there you go 25 is post college, i was talking more about 12-21 year olds
 

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