The Holy Grail of Facial Aesthetics - How to Simulate Lefort III Results with the Midface Mask Implant

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Are you recessed? According to all major studies, only 15 - 25% of people have a forward grown maxilla. This means that most of the planet (75 - 85% of people, or 8 out of 10 people,) have a suboptimal, recessed maxilla, a recessed maxilla usually also entails a recessed upper maxilla. This is water to say, however the maxilla is easily the most important bone in the entire face. You cannot be good looking with out a good maxilla unless you are literally 9+ on every other feature.

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Which one of these two men do you think mogs? Unless you’re blind, it’s very obviously the one on the right, Jordan Barrett, who has an exceptionally forward grown maxilla.

The maxilla is a very unique facial bone because unlike something like the lower jaw (the mandible,) the maxilla affects nearly every other important bone in the face.

It affects the lower orbitals/eye area, which is essential for canthal support which is what causes the compact “hunter eyes” shape that nearly all psl gods have.
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It affects the nose, which is an essential part of facial aesthetics. You cannot mog with a short, recessed nose.
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It also affects the zygomatic bone (the cheekbones) which are so essential to looking good that they are nicknamed “the bone of beauty.” It is impossible to have hollow cheeks (good OGEE curve) without prominent cheekbones as well as just looking good at base as since you are a male, your cheekbones are a sexually dimorphic trait. You will look feminine and “cute” (not a compliment) without good cheekbones.
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It is the main determinant in facial depth (specifically the upper maxilla) making it vital for a good side, you cannot mog if you don't have a good maxilla from the front or the side.
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(Inb4 iqlets say "muh Chico muh Robert Pattinson" jfl. Just have everything else as well as a wide maxilla theory. They are still genetically gifted.)


____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

For a very long time, the only fix to a recessed maxilla was through Lefort II/III Osteotomy, which is an extremely invasive, risky, and most importantly, expensive ($45,000 - $60,000+) and barred procedure that is limited only for people that have severe issues health issues, it is rarely (less than .1% of procedures) ever given out for aesthetic purposes because of how risky it is. That is until now.

Introducing the Midface Mask Implant, possibly the most underrated, and best facial implant you could possibly get for what it is.
1775587905288


As seen above, this thing covers almost the entire upper midface. Specifically it covers:

- The Infraorbital Rims: The bony edge immediately below the eye socket. Augmenting this area helps correct "tear trough" deformities and provides support to the lower eyelid.

- The Zygomatic Bones (Cheekbones): The central part of the cheekbone. The implant provides anterior (forward) projection and, depending on the patient's goal, can also add lateral cheek width.

- The Paranasal/Maxillary Region: The area surrounding the base of the nose and the upper jaw. This is crucial for correcting midface flatness and improving support for the nasolabial folds (the lines running from the nose to the mouth).

Midface mask implants emerged from the evolution of 3D CT-based custom prosthetics, transitioning from isolated, off-the-shelf facial implants to patient-specific, multi-zone reconstructions. They were developed to solve the limitations of standard implants, which often failed to create seamless, continuous transitions across the infraorbital, malar, and paranasal regions. Unlike standard implants that come pre-made, the Midface Mask Implant is made unique for every patient, ensuring that results are harmonious with the face and fit.

Cost: $6000 - $15,000 (for reference, a Lefort II/III can go from $30,000 to $60,000. You are getting the same results for 1/5th or less of the price.)

Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
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Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

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Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.

To continue on the concept developed, this is what the average Midface Implant+ Jaw/Chin implants result could look like if both were done in the same procedure:
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Obviously this dude had good upper facial width in his before and got jaw implants, however most of the forum is peanut skulled and would require both upper and lower facial surgeries to achieve this type of look. Look at how amazing that result is though.

Assuming the highest is charged for both implants, the transformation above would cost approximately $45,000 for Midface Mask Implants + Jaw/Chin implants. That is less than the cost of Lefort II/III by themselves and less/around the same price of a Bimax depending on who you're getting it from.

It also costs significantly less than the cost of getting implants for any of the areas mentioned by themselves/together.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So as with any procedure, what are the risks?

Compared to a lot of other procedures/implants, the risk/botch rate is remarkably low, the best mitigation strategy is simply to choose an experienced surgeon.


The main risks are Nerve Damage (specifically to the Infraorbital nerve,) Infection, Asymmetry, Lower Eyelid Malposition, and Step-Off Edges. All of these are dealt with and mitigated during/before the procedure.

Nerve Damage (Permanent: <1%; Temporary: 15%): The infraorbital nerve sits right in the middle of the implant’s territory. It provides sensation to your mid-cheek, side of the nose, and upper lip.
Risk Mitigation: During the 3D design phase, the implant is engineered with a notched tunnel or foramen that fits perfectly over the nerve. This allows the implant to sit flush against the bone without putting any pressure on the nerve itself.

Infection (1% - 4%): Large implants provide a significant surface area for bacteria to colonize. If an infection takes hold on the surface of the implant, the body’s immune system often cannot reach it, potentially requiring the removal of the device.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use strict aseptic techniques, often soaking the implant in a triple-antibiotic solution before insertion. Many masks are made of PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) or Porous Polyethylene (Medpor); Medpor allows for tissue ingrowth, which helps the body’s immune cells integrate into the material to fight bacteria.

Asymmetry (Near 0%): Because the mask is a single, rigid piece, if it is off by even a millimeter, the entire midface can look crooked.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use 3D-printed surgical guides and titanium screw fixation. The screws lock the implant into the exact coordinates predetermined by the CT scan, ensuring it cannot shift during the healing process. With a custom mask, the chance of skeletal asymmetry is near 0% because the implant is 3D-printed to fit your bone perfectly. Most "asymmetry" reported with masks is actually just pre-existing soft tissue (skin/fat) differences that the implant didn't fully mask.

Step-Off Edges (3%>): If the implant is too thick or the edges are blunt, you might be able to feel (or see) where the plastic ends and your bone begins.
Risk Mitigation: The implant edges are digitally feathered to a thickness of nearly zero. This ensures a seamless transition so that the implant feels like a natural extension of the skull.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

No clue if this'll get pinned or not but I guess that just depends on how the thread does. Who cares honestly, as long as someone gets some help from it.

This is a very good procedure, and it deserves more visibility. This is a functional, aesthetic replacement for Bimax/Lefort/BSSO, one of the most popular if not the most popular aesthetic procedures for facial aesthetics ever. This is a gem. Hardmaxx TODAY.

Your perfect life awaits you, your hot wife, your high paying job, the admiration from everyone you meet no matter what, your future kid's respect for you. All of this is a few surgeries away, will you dedicate your life this one time? Or will you let the opportunity pass and some other man do it and live your dream life while you rot away?

NO FAILO IS UNFIXABLE. ITS NEVER OVER. NEVER LDAR.

THE WORLD IS YOURS.

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Are you recessed? According to all major studies, only 15 - 25% of people have a forward grown maxilla. This means that most of the planet (75 - 85% of people, or 8 out of 10 people,) have a suboptimal, recessed maxilla, a recessed maxilla usually also entails a recessed upper maxilla. This is water to say, however the maxilla is easily the most important bone in the entire face. You cannot be good looking with out a good maxilla unless you are literally 9+ on every other feature.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

View attachment 4881709View attachment 4881725

Which one of these two men do you think mogs? Unless you’re blind, it’s very obviously the one on the right, Jordan Barrett, who has an exceptionally forward grown maxilla.

The maxilla is a very unique facial bone because unlike something like the lower jaw (the mandible,) the maxilla affects nearly every other important bone in the face.

It affects the lower orbitals/eye area, which is essential for canthal support which is what causes the compact “hunter eyes” shape that nearly all psl gods have.
View attachment 4881756

It affects the nose, which is an essential part of facial aesthetics. You cannot mog with a short, recessed nose.
View attachment 4881785

It also affects the zygomatic bone (the cheekbones) which are so essential to looking good that they are nicknamed “the bone of beauty.” It is impossible to have hollow cheeks (good OGEE curve) without prominent cheekbones as well as just looking good at base as since you are a male, your cheekbones are a sexually dimorphic trait. You will look feminine and “cute” (not a compliment) without good cheekbones.
View attachment 4881831

It is the main determinant in facial depth (specifically the upper maxilla) making it vital for a good side, you cannot mog if you don't have a good maxilla from the front or the side.
View attachment 4881853
(Inb4 iqlets say "muh Chico muh Robert Pattinson" jfl. Just have everything else as well as a wide maxilla theory. They are still genetically gifted.)


____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

For a very long time, the only fix to a recessed maxilla was through Lefort II/III Osteotomy, which is an extremely invasive, risky, and most importantly, expensive ($45,000 - $60,000+) and barred procedure that is limited only for people that have severe issues health issues, it is rarely (less than .1% of procedures) ever given out for aesthetic purposes because of how risky it is. That is until now.

Introducing the Midface Mask Implant, possibly the most underrated, and best facial implant you could possibly get for what it is. View attachment 4881900

As seen above, this thing covers almost the entire upper midface. Specifically it covers:

- The Infraorbital Rims: The bony edge immediately below the eye socket. Augmenting this area helps correct "tear trough" deformities and provides support to the lower eyelid.

- The Zygomatic Bones (Cheekbones): The central part of the cheekbone. The implant provides anterior (forward) projection and, depending on the patient's goal, can also add lateral cheek width.

- The Paranasal/Maxillary Region: The area surrounding the base of the nose and the upper jaw. This is crucial for correcting midface flatness and improving support for the nasolabial folds (the lines running from the nose to the mouth).

Midface mask implants emerged from the evolution of 3D CT-based custom prosthetics, transitioning from isolated, off-the-shelf facial implants to patient-specific, multi-zone reconstructions. They were developed to solve the limitations of standard implants, which often failed to create seamless, continuous transitions across the infraorbital, malar, and paranasal regions. Unlike standard implants that come pre-made, the Midface Mask Implant is made unique for every patient, ensuring that results are harmonious with the face and fit.

Cost: $6000 - $15,000 (for reference, a Lefort II/III can go from $30,000 to $60,000. You are getting the same results for 1/5th or less of the price.)

Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
View attachment 4882008View attachment 4882019

Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

View attachment 4882967

Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.

To continue on the concept developed, this is what the average Midface Implant+ Jaw/Chin implants result could look like if both were done in the same procedure:
View attachment 4883176

Obviously this dude had good upper facial width in his before and got jaw implants, however most of the forum is peanut skulled and would require both upper and lower facial surgeries to achieve this type of look. Look at how amazing that result is though.

Assuming the highest is charged for both implants, the transformation above would cost approximately $45,000 for Midface Mask Implants + Jaw/Chin implants. That is less than the cost of Lefort II/III by themselves and less/around the same price of a Bimax depending on who you're getting it from.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So as with any procedure, what are the risks?

Compared to a lot of other procedures/implants, the risk/botch rate is remarkably low, the best mitigation strategy is simply to choose an experienced surgeon.


The main risks are Nerve Damage (specifically to the Infraorbital nerve,) Infection, Asymmetry, Lower Eyelid Malposition, and Step-Off Edges. All of these are dealt with and mitigated during/before the procedure.

Nerve Damage (Permanent: <1%; Temporary: 15%): The infraorbital nerve sits right in the middle of the implant’s territory. It provides sensation to your mid-cheek, side of the nose, and upper lip.
Risk Mitigation: During the 3D design phase, the implant is engineered with a notched tunnel or foramen that fits perfectly over the nerve. This allows the implant to sit flush against the bone without putting any pressure on the nerve itself.

Infection (1% - 4%): Large implants provide a significant surface area for bacteria to colonize. If an infection takes hold on the surface of the implant, the body’s immune system often cannot reach it, potentially requiring the removal of the device.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use strict aseptic techniques, often soaking the implant in a triple-antibiotic solution before insertion. Many masks are made of PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) or Porous Polyethylene (Medpor); Medpor allows for tissue ingrowth, which helps the body’s immune cells integrate into the material to fight bacteria.

Asymmetry (Near 0%): Because the mask is a single, rigid piece, if it is off by even a millimeter, the entire midface can look crooked.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use 3D-printed surgical guides and titanium screw fixation. The screws lock the implant into the exact coordinates predetermined by the CT scan, ensuring it cannot shift during the healing process. With a custom mask, the chance of skeletal asymmetry is near 0% because the implant is 3D-printed to fit your bone perfectly. Most "asymmetry" reported with masks is actually just pre-existing soft tissue (skin/fat) differences that the implant didn't fully mask.

Step-Off Edges (3%>): If the implant is too thick or the edges are blunt, you might be able to feel (or see) where the plastic ends and your bone begins.
Risk Mitigation: The implant edges are digitally feathered to a thickness of nearly zero. This ensures a seamless transition so that the implant feels like a natural extension of the skull.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

This is a very good procedure, and it deserves more visibility. This is a functional, aesthetic replacement for Bimax/Lefort/BSSO one of the most popular if not the most popular aesthetic procedures for facial aesthetics ever. This is a gem. Hardmaxx TODAY.
Your perfect life awaits you, your hot wife, your high paying job, the admiration from everyone you meet no matter what, your future kid's respect for you. All of this is a few surgeries away, will you dedicate your life this one time? Or will you let the opportunity pass and some other man do it and live your dream life while you rot away?

NO FAILO IS UNFIXABLE. ITS NEVER OVER. NEVER LDAR.

THE WORLD IS YOURS.

tony montana film GIF



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Are you recessed? According to all major studies, only 15 - 25% of people have a forward grown maxilla. This means that most of the planet (75 - 85% of people, or 8 out of 10 people,) have a suboptimal, recessed maxilla, a recessed maxilla usually also entails a recessed upper maxilla. This is water to say, however the maxilla is easily the most important bone in the entire face. You cannot be good looking with out a good maxilla unless you are literally 9+ on every other feature.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

View attachment 4881709View attachment 4881725

Which one of these two men do you think mogs? Unless you’re blind, it’s very obviously the one on the right, Jordan Barrett, who has an exceptionally forward grown maxilla.

The maxilla is a very unique facial bone because unlike something like the lower jaw (the mandible,) the maxilla affects nearly every other important bone in the face.

It affects the lower orbitals/eye area, which is essential for canthal support which is what causes the compact “hunter eyes” shape that nearly all psl gods have.
View attachment 4881756

It affects the nose, which is an essential part of facial aesthetics. You cannot mog with a short, recessed nose.
View attachment 4881785

It also affects the zygomatic bone (the cheekbones) which are so essential to looking good that they are nicknamed “the bone of beauty.” It is impossible to have hollow cheeks (good OGEE curve) without prominent cheekbones as well as just looking good at base as since you are a male, your cheekbones are a sexually dimorphic trait. You will look feminine and “cute” (not a compliment) without good cheekbones.
View attachment 4881831

It is the main determinant in facial depth (specifically the upper maxilla) making it vital for a good side, you cannot mog if you don't have a good maxilla from the front or the side.
View attachment 4881853
(Inb4 iqlets say "muh Chico muh Robert Pattinson" jfl. Just have everything else as well as a wide maxilla theory. They are still genetically gifted.)


____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

For a very long time, the only fix to a recessed maxilla was through Lefort II/III Osteotomy, which is an extremely invasive, risky, and most importantly, expensive ($45,000 - $60,000+) and barred procedure that is limited only for people that have severe issues health issues, it is rarely (less than .1% of procedures) ever given out for aesthetic purposes because of how risky it is. That is until now.

Introducing the Midface Mask Implant, possibly the most underrated, and best facial implant you could possibly get for what it is. View attachment 4881900

As seen above, this thing covers almost the entire upper midface. Specifically it covers:

- The Infraorbital Rims: The bony edge immediately below the eye socket. Augmenting this area helps correct "tear trough" deformities and provides support to the lower eyelid.

- The Zygomatic Bones (Cheekbones): The central part of the cheekbone. The implant provides anterior (forward) projection and, depending on the patient's goal, can also add lateral cheek width.

- The Paranasal/Maxillary Region: The area surrounding the base of the nose and the upper jaw. This is crucial for correcting midface flatness and improving support for the nasolabial folds (the lines running from the nose to the mouth).

Midface mask implants emerged from the evolution of 3D CT-based custom prosthetics, transitioning from isolated, off-the-shelf facial implants to patient-specific, multi-zone reconstructions. They were developed to solve the limitations of standard implants, which often failed to create seamless, continuous transitions across the infraorbital, malar, and paranasal regions. Unlike standard implants that come pre-made, the Midface Mask Implant is made unique for every patient, ensuring that results are harmonious with the face and fit.

Cost: $6000 - $15,000 (for reference, a Lefort II/III can go from $30,000 to $60,000. You are getting the same results for 1/5th or less of the price.)

Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
View attachment 4882008View attachment 4882019

Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

View attachment 4882967

Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.

To continue on the concept developed, this is what the average Midface Implant+ Jaw/Chin implants result could look like if both were done in the same procedure:
View attachment 4883176

Obviously this dude had good upper facial width in his before and got jaw implants, however most of the forum is peanut skulled and would require both upper and lower facial surgeries to achieve this type of look. Look at how amazing that result is though.

Assuming the highest is charged for both implants, the transformation above would cost approximately $45,000 for Midface Mask Implants + Jaw/Chin implants. That is less than the cost of Lefort II/III by themselves and less/around the same price of a Bimax depending on who you're getting it from.

It also costs significantly less than the cost of getting implants for any of the areas mentioned by themselves/together.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So as with any procedure, what are the risks?

Compared to a lot of other procedures/implants, the risk/botch rate is remarkably low, the best mitigation strategy is simply to choose an experienced surgeon.


The main risks are Nerve Damage (specifically to the Infraorbital nerve,) Infection, Asymmetry, Lower Eyelid Malposition, and Step-Off Edges. All of these are dealt with and mitigated during/before the procedure.

Nerve Damage (Permanent: <1%; Temporary: 15%): The infraorbital nerve sits right in the middle of the implant’s territory. It provides sensation to your mid-cheek, side of the nose, and upper lip.
Risk Mitigation: During the 3D design phase, the implant is engineered with a notched tunnel or foramen that fits perfectly over the nerve. This allows the implant to sit flush against the bone without putting any pressure on the nerve itself.

Infection (1% - 4%): Large implants provide a significant surface area for bacteria to colonize. If an infection takes hold on the surface of the implant, the body’s immune system often cannot reach it, potentially requiring the removal of the device.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use strict aseptic techniques, often soaking the implant in a triple-antibiotic solution before insertion. Many masks are made of PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) or Porous Polyethylene (Medpor); Medpor allows for tissue ingrowth, which helps the body’s immune cells integrate into the material to fight bacteria.

Asymmetry (Near 0%): Because the mask is a single, rigid piece, if it is off by even a millimeter, the entire midface can look crooked.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use 3D-printed surgical guides and titanium screw fixation. The screws lock the implant into the exact coordinates predetermined by the CT scan, ensuring it cannot shift during the healing process. With a custom mask, the chance of skeletal asymmetry is near 0% because the implant is 3D-printed to fit your bone perfectly. Most "asymmetry" reported with masks is actually just pre-existing soft tissue (skin/fat) differences that the implant didn't fully mask.

Step-Off Edges (3%>): If the implant is too thick or the edges are blunt, you might be able to feel (or see) where the plastic ends and your bone begins.
Risk Mitigation: The implant edges are digitally feathered to a thickness of nearly zero. This ensures a seamless transition so that the implant feels like a natural extension of the skull.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

No clue if this'll get pinned or not but I guess that just depends on how the thread does. Who cares honestly, as long as someone gets some help from it.

This is a very good procedure, and it deserves more visibility. This is a functional, aesthetic replacement for Bimax/Lefort/BSSO, one of the most popular if not the most popular aesthetic procedures for facial aesthetics ever. This is a gem. Hardmaxx TODAY.

Your perfect life awaits you, your hot wife, your high paying job, the admiration from everyone you meet no matter what, your future kid's respect for you. All of this is a few surgeries away, will you dedicate your life this one time? Or will you let the opportunity pass and some other man do it and live your dream life while you rot away?

NO FAILO IS UNFIXABLE. ITS NEVER OVER. NEVER LDAR.

THE WORLD IS YOURS.

tony montana film GIF



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Fire asf bro mirin the thread, planning on inframalars rn to go with my bsso (my shits a little pushed back but I got a good ramus and really good bigonial width). Hoping I can ascend my inframalar region so it pairs well with my lower third, cause I got a sort of weird hollowness its like reverse hollowness, and the other type of hollowness I feel like caters to girls more, if u get what I mean.
 
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Are you recessed? According to all major studies, only 15 - 25% of people have a forward grown maxilla. This means that most of the planet (75 - 85% of people, or 8 out of 10 people,) have a suboptimal, recessed maxilla, a recessed maxilla usually also entails a recessed upper maxilla. This is water to say, however the maxilla is easily the most important bone in the entire face. You cannot be good looking with out a good maxilla unless you are literally 9+ on every other feature.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

View attachment 4881709View attachment 4881725

Which one of these two men do you think mogs? Unless you’re blind, it’s very obviously the one on the right, Jordan Barrett, who has an exceptionally forward grown maxilla.

The maxilla is a very unique facial bone because unlike something like the lower jaw (the mandible,) the maxilla affects nearly every other important bone in the face.

It affects the lower orbitals/eye area, which is essential for canthal support which is what causes the compact “hunter eyes” shape that nearly all psl gods have.
View attachment 4881756

It affects the nose, which is an essential part of facial aesthetics. You cannot mog with a short, recessed nose.
View attachment 4881785

It also affects the zygomatic bone (the cheekbones) which are so essential to looking good that they are nicknamed “the bone of beauty.” It is impossible to have hollow cheeks (good OGEE curve) without prominent cheekbones as well as just looking good at base as since you are a male, your cheekbones are a sexually dimorphic trait. You will look feminine and “cute” (not a compliment) without good cheekbones.
View attachment 4881831

It is the main determinant in facial depth (specifically the upper maxilla) making it vital for a good side, you cannot mog if you don't have a good maxilla from the front or the side.
View attachment 4881853
(Inb4 iqlets say "muh Chico muh Robert Pattinson" jfl. Just have everything else as well as a wide maxilla theory. They are still genetically gifted.)


____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

For a very long time, the only fix to a recessed maxilla was through Lefort II/III Osteotomy, which is an extremely invasive, risky, and most importantly, expensive ($45,000 - $60,000+) and barred procedure that is limited only for people that have severe issues health issues, it is rarely (less than .1% of procedures) ever given out for aesthetic purposes because of how risky it is. That is until now.

Introducing the Midface Mask Implant, possibly the most underrated, and best facial implant you could possibly get for what it is. View attachment 4881900

As seen above, this thing covers almost the entire upper midface. Specifically it covers:

- The Infraorbital Rims: The bony edge immediately below the eye socket. Augmenting this area helps correct "tear trough" deformities and provides support to the lower eyelid.

- The Zygomatic Bones (Cheekbones): The central part of the cheekbone. The implant provides anterior (forward) projection and, depending on the patient's goal, can also add lateral cheek width.

- The Paranasal/Maxillary Region: The area surrounding the base of the nose and the upper jaw. This is crucial for correcting midface flatness and improving support for the nasolabial folds (the lines running from the nose to the mouth).

Midface mask implants emerged from the evolution of 3D CT-based custom prosthetics, transitioning from isolated, off-the-shelf facial implants to patient-specific, multi-zone reconstructions. They were developed to solve the limitations of standard implants, which often failed to create seamless, continuous transitions across the infraorbital, malar, and paranasal regions. Unlike standard implants that come pre-made, the Midface Mask Implant is made unique for every patient, ensuring that results are harmonious with the face and fit.

Cost: $6000 - $15,000 (for reference, a Lefort II/III can go from $30,000 to $60,000. You are getting the same results for 1/5th or less of the price.)

Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
View attachment 4882008View attachment 4882019

Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

View attachment 4882967

Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.

To continue on the concept developed, this is what the average Midface Implant+ Jaw/Chin implants result could look like if both were done in the same procedure:
View attachment 4883176

Obviously this dude had good upper facial width in his before and got jaw implants, however most of the forum is peanut skulled and would require both upper and lower facial surgeries to achieve this type of look. Look at how amazing that result is though.

Assuming the highest is charged for both implants, the transformation above would cost approximately $45,000 for Midface Mask Implants + Jaw/Chin implants. That is less than the cost of Lefort II/III by themselves and less/around the same price of a Bimax depending on who you're getting it from.

It also costs significantly less than the cost of getting implants for any of the areas mentioned by themselves/together.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So as with any procedure, what are the risks?

Compared to a lot of other procedures/implants, the risk/botch rate is remarkably low, the best mitigation strategy is simply to choose an experienced surgeon.


The main risks are Nerve Damage (specifically to the Infraorbital nerve,) Infection, Asymmetry, Lower Eyelid Malposition, and Step-Off Edges. All of these are dealt with and mitigated during/before the procedure.

Nerve Damage (Permanent: <1%; Temporary: 15%): The infraorbital nerve sits right in the middle of the implant’s territory. It provides sensation to your mid-cheek, side of the nose, and upper lip.
Risk Mitigation: During the 3D design phase, the implant is engineered with a notched tunnel or foramen that fits perfectly over the nerve. This allows the implant to sit flush against the bone without putting any pressure on the nerve itself.

Infection (1% - 4%): Large implants provide a significant surface area for bacteria to colonize. If an infection takes hold on the surface of the implant, the body’s immune system often cannot reach it, potentially requiring the removal of the device.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use strict aseptic techniques, often soaking the implant in a triple-antibiotic solution before insertion. Many masks are made of PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) or Porous Polyethylene (Medpor); Medpor allows for tissue ingrowth, which helps the body’s immune cells integrate into the material to fight bacteria.

Asymmetry (Near 0%): Because the mask is a single, rigid piece, if it is off by even a millimeter, the entire midface can look crooked.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use 3D-printed surgical guides and titanium screw fixation. The screws lock the implant into the exact coordinates predetermined by the CT scan, ensuring it cannot shift during the healing process. With a custom mask, the chance of skeletal asymmetry is near 0% because the implant is 3D-printed to fit your bone perfectly. Most "asymmetry" reported with masks is actually just pre-existing soft tissue (skin/fat) differences that the implant didn't fully mask.

Step-Off Edges (3%>): If the implant is too thick or the edges are blunt, you might be able to feel (or see) where the plastic ends and your bone begins.
Risk Mitigation: The implant edges are digitally feathered to a thickness of nearly zero. This ensures a seamless transition so that the implant feels like a natural extension of the skull.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

No clue if this'll get pinned or not but I guess that just depends on how the thread does. Who cares honestly, as long as someone gets some help from it.

This is a very good procedure, and it deserves more visibility. This is a functional, aesthetic replacement for Bimax/Lefort/BSSO, one of the most popular if not the most popular aesthetic procedures for facial aesthetics ever. This is a gem. Hardmaxx TODAY.

Your perfect life awaits you, your hot wife, your high paying job, the admiration from everyone you meet no matter what, your future kid's respect for you. All of this is a few surgeries away, will you dedicate your life this one time? Or will you let the opportunity pass and some other man do it and live your dream life while you rot away?

NO FAILO IS UNFIXABLE. ITS NEVER OVER. NEVER LDAR.

THE WORLD IS YOURS.

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@Sayori @Hernan @Orka @HtnceI @Jason Voorhees
Very good thread.

also it seems as tho the mask being one piece basically will make it extremely easy to remove if need be
 
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Why not just get lefort 2? Implants tend to run on the uncanny side.
 
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DNR I cant believe people think this is a good thread, the example for the midface implant is a result of over expansion of MSE/Marpe, here is an interview where he explains what the did ect
Also midface implants or implants in general will never mog Osteotomies /orthognathic surgery. Implants almost always look uncanny in motion to.
 
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DNR I cant believe people think this is a good thread, the example for the midface implant is a result of over expansion of MSE/Marpe, here is an interview where he explains what the did ect
Also midface implants or implants in general will never mog Osteotomies /orthognathic surgery. Implants almost always look uncanny in motion to.

literally people don’t know jack or forget every result the next day on this site. this guy went by the name of a caterpillar or something and was famous as fuck for spamming mse and going ogRE.

such an egregiously misleading thread lmao, this implant looks like a fucking meme. the ones niggas would photoshop and set to their avi in 2020 basically looking like squidward due to the range of the blue implants coverage 😭
 
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The problem is the face will look uncanny if you only advance the midface and not the entire frontal process. You must also advance the brow ridge and nasion region.

Plus no surgeon will do lf3 for cosmetic reasons anyways
 
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Holy fucking mirin, seems like you stopped coping with those fuckass lifefuel threads and started providing solutions
 
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Are you recessed? According to all major studies, only 15 - 25% of people have a forward grown maxilla. This means that most of the planet (75 - 85% of people, or 8 out of 10 people,) have a suboptimal, recessed maxilla, a recessed maxilla usually also entails a recessed upper maxilla. This is water to say, however the maxilla is easily the most important bone in the entire face. You cannot be good looking with out a good maxilla unless you are literally 9+ on every other feature.

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View attachment 4881709View attachment 4881725

Which one of these two men do you think mogs? Unless you’re blind, it’s very obviously the one on the right, Jordan Barrett, who has an exceptionally forward grown maxilla.

The maxilla is a very unique facial bone because unlike something like the lower jaw (the mandible,) the maxilla affects nearly every other important bone in the face.

It affects the lower orbitals/eye area, which is essential for canthal support which is what causes the compact “hunter eyes” shape that nearly all psl gods have.
View attachment 4881756

It affects the nose, which is an essential part of facial aesthetics. You cannot mog with a short, recessed nose.
View attachment 4881785

It also affects the zygomatic bone (the cheekbones) which are so essential to looking good that they are nicknamed “the bone of beauty.” It is impossible to have hollow cheeks (good OGEE curve) without prominent cheekbones as well as just looking good at base as since you are a male, your cheekbones are a sexually dimorphic trait. You will look feminine and “cute” (not a compliment) without good cheekbones.
View attachment 4881831

It is the main determinant in facial depth (specifically the upper maxilla) making it vital for a good side, you cannot mog if you don't have a good maxilla from the front or the side.
View attachment 4881853
(Inb4 iqlets say "muh Chico muh Robert Pattinson" jfl. Just have everything else as well as a wide maxilla theory. They are still genetically gifted.)


____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

For a very long time, the only fix to a recessed maxilla was through Lefort II/III Osteotomy, which is an extremely invasive, risky, and most importantly, expensive ($45,000 - $60,000+) and barred procedure that is limited only for people that have severe issues health issues, it is rarely (less than .1% of procedures) ever given out for aesthetic purposes because of how risky it is. That is until now.

Introducing the Midface Mask Implant, possibly the most underrated, and best facial implant you could possibly get for what it is. View attachment 4881900

As seen above, this thing covers almost the entire upper midface. Specifically it covers:

- The Infraorbital Rims: The bony edge immediately below the eye socket. Augmenting this area helps correct "tear trough" deformities and provides support to the lower eyelid.

- The Zygomatic Bones (Cheekbones): The central part of the cheekbone. The implant provides anterior (forward) projection and, depending on the patient's goal, can also add lateral cheek width.

- The Paranasal/Maxillary Region: The area surrounding the base of the nose and the upper jaw. This is crucial for correcting midface flatness and improving support for the nasolabial folds (the lines running from the nose to the mouth).

Midface mask implants emerged from the evolution of 3D CT-based custom prosthetics, transitioning from isolated, off-the-shelf facial implants to patient-specific, multi-zone reconstructions. They were developed to solve the limitations of standard implants, which often failed to create seamless, continuous transitions across the infraorbital, malar, and paranasal regions. Unlike standard implants that come pre-made, the Midface Mask Implant is made unique for every patient, ensuring that results are harmonious with the face and fit.

Cost: $6000 - $15,000 (for reference, a Lefort II/III can go from $30,000 to $60,000. You are getting the same results for 1/5th or less of the price.)

Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
View attachment 4882008View attachment 4882019

Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

View attachment 4882967

Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.

To continue on the concept developed, this is what the average Midface Implant+ Jaw/Chin implants result could look like if both were done in the same procedure:
View attachment 4883176

Obviously this dude had good upper facial width in his before and got jaw implants, however most of the forum is peanut skulled and would require both upper and lower facial surgeries to achieve this type of look. Look at how amazing that result is though.

Assuming the highest is charged for both implants, the transformation above would cost approximately $45,000 for Midface Mask Implants + Jaw/Chin implants. That is less than the cost of Lefort II/III by themselves and less/around the same price of a Bimax depending on who you're getting it from.

It also costs significantly less than the cost of getting implants for any of the areas mentioned by themselves/together.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So as with any procedure, what are the risks?

Compared to a lot of other procedures/implants, the risk/botch rate is remarkably low, the best mitigation strategy is simply to choose an experienced surgeon.


The main risks are Nerve Damage (specifically to the Infraorbital nerve,) Infection, Asymmetry, Lower Eyelid Malposition, and Step-Off Edges. All of these are dealt with and mitigated during/before the procedure.

Nerve Damage (Permanent: <1%; Temporary: 15%): The infraorbital nerve sits right in the middle of the implant’s territory. It provides sensation to your mid-cheek, side of the nose, and upper lip.
Risk Mitigation: During the 3D design phase, the implant is engineered with a notched tunnel or foramen that fits perfectly over the nerve. This allows the implant to sit flush against the bone without putting any pressure on the nerve itself.

Infection (1% - 4%): Large implants provide a significant surface area for bacteria to colonize. If an infection takes hold on the surface of the implant, the body’s immune system often cannot reach it, potentially requiring the removal of the device.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use strict aseptic techniques, often soaking the implant in a triple-antibiotic solution before insertion. Many masks are made of PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) or Porous Polyethylene (Medpor); Medpor allows for tissue ingrowth, which helps the body’s immune cells integrate into the material to fight bacteria.

Asymmetry (Near 0%): Because the mask is a single, rigid piece, if it is off by even a millimeter, the entire midface can look crooked.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use 3D-printed surgical guides and titanium screw fixation. The screws lock the implant into the exact coordinates predetermined by the CT scan, ensuring it cannot shift during the healing process. With a custom mask, the chance of skeletal asymmetry is near 0% because the implant is 3D-printed to fit your bone perfectly. Most "asymmetry" reported with masks is actually just pre-existing soft tissue (skin/fat) differences that the implant didn't fully mask.

Step-Off Edges (3%>): If the implant is too thick or the edges are blunt, you might be able to feel (or see) where the plastic ends and your bone begins.
Risk Mitigation: The implant edges are digitally feathered to a thickness of nearly zero. This ensures a seamless transition so that the implant feels like a natural extension of the skull.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

No clue if this'll get pinned or not but I guess that just depends on how the thread does. Who cares honestly, as long as someone gets some help from it.

This is a very good procedure, and it deserves more visibility. This is a functional, aesthetic replacement for Bimax/Lefort/BSSO, one of the most popular if not the most popular aesthetic procedures for facial aesthetics ever. This is a gem. Hardmaxx TODAY.

Your perfect life awaits you, your hot wife, your high paying job, the admiration from everyone you meet no matter what, your future kid's respect for you. All of this is a few surgeries away, will you dedicate your life this one time? Or will you let the opportunity pass and some other man do it and live your dream life while you rot away?

NO FAILO IS UNFIXABLE. ITS NEVER OVER. NEVER LDAR.

THE WORLD IS YOURS.

tony montana film GIF



@Sayori @Hernan @Orka @HtnceI @Jason Voorhees
SURGEONS WHO DO THIS , OUT OF US???
 
@illusion ur a pussy repping those below me and user2813s reply lol ur a fucking liar who gets off on misleading copers who think anything’s possible
 
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Also combined with orbital implants in some procedures.
Future looks bright, this combined with lab-grown bone scaffolds so that it is actual bone and not silicone.
 
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Are you recessed? According to all major studies, only 15 - 25% of people have a forward grown maxilla. This means that most of the planet (75 - 85% of people, or 8 out of 10 people,) have a suboptimal, recessed maxilla, a recessed maxilla usually also entails a recessed upper maxilla. This is water to say, however the maxilla is easily the most important bone in the entire face. You cannot be good looking with out a good maxilla unless you are literally 9+ on every other feature.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

View attachment 4881709View attachment 4881725

Which one of these two men do you think mogs? Unless you’re blind, it’s very obviously the one on the right, Jordan Barrett, who has an exceptionally forward grown maxilla.

The maxilla is a very unique facial bone because unlike something like the lower jaw (the mandible,) the maxilla affects nearly every other important bone in the face.

It affects the lower orbitals/eye area, which is essential for canthal support which is what causes the compact “hunter eyes” shape that nearly all psl gods have.
View attachment 4881756

It affects the nose, which is an essential part of facial aesthetics. You cannot mog with a short, recessed nose.
View attachment 4881785

It also affects the zygomatic bone (the cheekbones) which are so essential to looking good that they are nicknamed “the bone of beauty.” It is impossible to have hollow cheeks (good OGEE curve) without prominent cheekbones as well as just looking good at base as since you are a male, your cheekbones are a sexually dimorphic trait. You will look feminine and “cute” (not a compliment) without good cheekbones.
View attachment 4881831

It is the main determinant in facial depth (specifically the upper maxilla) making it vital for a good side, you cannot mog if you don't have a good maxilla from the front or the side.
View attachment 4881853
(Inb4 iqlets say "muh Chico muh Robert Pattinson" jfl. Just have everything else as well as a wide maxilla theory. They are still genetically gifted.)


____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

For a very long time, the only fix to a recessed maxilla was through Lefort II/III Osteotomy, which is an extremely invasive, risky, and most importantly, expensive ($45,000 - $60,000+) and barred procedure that is limited only for people that have severe issues health issues, it is rarely (less than .1% of procedures) ever given out for aesthetic purposes because of how risky it is. That is until now.

Introducing the Midface Mask Implant, possibly the most underrated, and best facial implant you could possibly get for what it is. View attachment 4881900

As seen above, this thing covers almost the entire upper midface. Specifically it covers:

- The Infraorbital Rims: The bony edge immediately below the eye socket. Augmenting this area helps correct "tear trough" deformities and provides support to the lower eyelid.

- The Zygomatic Bones (Cheekbones): The central part of the cheekbone. The implant provides anterior (forward) projection and, depending on the patient's goal, can also add lateral cheek width.

- The Paranasal/Maxillary Region: The area surrounding the base of the nose and the upper jaw. This is crucial for correcting midface flatness and improving support for the nasolabial folds (the lines running from the nose to the mouth).

Midface mask implants emerged from the evolution of 3D CT-based custom prosthetics, transitioning from isolated, off-the-shelf facial implants to patient-specific, multi-zone reconstructions. They were developed to solve the limitations of standard implants, which often failed to create seamless, continuous transitions across the infraorbital, malar, and paranasal regions. Unlike standard implants that come pre-made, the Midface Mask Implant is made unique for every patient, ensuring that results are harmonious with the face and fit.

Cost: $6000 - $15,000 (for reference, a Lefort II/III can go from $30,000 to $60,000. You are getting the same results for 1/5th or less of the price.)

Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
View attachment 4882008View attachment 4882019

Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

View attachment 4882967

Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.

To continue on the concept developed, this is what the average Midface Implant+ Jaw/Chin implants result could look like if both were done in the same procedure:
View attachment 4883176

Obviously this dude had good upper facial width in his before and got jaw implants, however most of the forum is peanut skulled and would require both upper and lower facial surgeries to achieve this type of look. Look at how amazing that result is though.

Assuming the highest is charged for both implants, the transformation above would cost approximately $45,000 for Midface Mask Implants + Jaw/Chin implants. That is less than the cost of Lefort II/III by themselves and less/around the same price of a Bimax depending on who you're getting it from.

It also costs significantly less than the cost of getting implants for any of the areas mentioned by themselves/together.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So as with any procedure, what are the risks?

Compared to a lot of other procedures/implants, the risk/botch rate is remarkably low, the best mitigation strategy is simply to choose an experienced surgeon.


The main risks are Nerve Damage (specifically to the Infraorbital nerve,) Infection, Asymmetry, Lower Eyelid Malposition, and Step-Off Edges. All of these are dealt with and mitigated during/before the procedure.

Nerve Damage (Permanent: <1%; Temporary: 15%): The infraorbital nerve sits right in the middle of the implant’s territory. It provides sensation to your mid-cheek, side of the nose, and upper lip.
Risk Mitigation: During the 3D design phase, the implant is engineered with a notched tunnel or foramen that fits perfectly over the nerve. This allows the implant to sit flush against the bone without putting any pressure on the nerve itself.

Infection (1% - 4%): Large implants provide a significant surface area for bacteria to colonize. If an infection takes hold on the surface of the implant, the body’s immune system often cannot reach it, potentially requiring the removal of the device.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use strict aseptic techniques, often soaking the implant in a triple-antibiotic solution before insertion. Many masks are made of PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) or Porous Polyethylene (Medpor); Medpor allows for tissue ingrowth, which helps the body’s immune cells integrate into the material to fight bacteria.

Asymmetry (Near 0%): Because the mask is a single, rigid piece, if it is off by even a millimeter, the entire midface can look crooked.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use 3D-printed surgical guides and titanium screw fixation. The screws lock the implant into the exact coordinates predetermined by the CT scan, ensuring it cannot shift during the healing process. With a custom mask, the chance of skeletal asymmetry is near 0% because the implant is 3D-printed to fit your bone perfectly. Most "asymmetry" reported with masks is actually just pre-existing soft tissue (skin/fat) differences that the implant didn't fully mask.

Step-Off Edges (3%>): If the implant is too thick or the edges are blunt, you might be able to feel (or see) where the plastic ends and your bone begins.
Risk Mitigation: The implant edges are digitally feathered to a thickness of nearly zero. This ensures a seamless transition so that the implant feels like a natural extension of the skull.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

No clue if this'll get pinned or not but I guess that just depends on how the thread does. Who cares honestly, as long as someone gets some help from it.

This is a very good procedure, and it deserves more visibility. This is a functional, aesthetic replacement for Bimax/Lefort/BSSO, one of the most popular if not the most popular aesthetic procedures for facial aesthetics ever. This is a gem. Hardmaxx TODAY.

Your perfect life awaits you, your hot wife, your high paying job, the admiration from everyone you meet no matter what, your future kid's respect for you. All of this is a few surgeries away, will you dedicate your life this one time? Or will you let the opportunity pass and some other man do it and live your dream life while you rot away?

NO FAILO IS UNFIXABLE. ITS NEVER OVER. NEVER LDAR.

THE WORLD IS YOURS.

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I only half read this tbh but no one really needs a lefort II/III unless, like you said, have an exceptional abnormality. Lefort I is good enough for most people and you can just get zygomatic implants. It might be cheaper to get the midface implant but the implant doesnt do anything to your lowerjaw and teeth like lefort does
 
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Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
View attachment 4882008View attachment 4882019

Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

View attachment 4882967

Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.
Your a fucking moron.

This dude is a fairly well known case shared by Dr. Newaz. They used bone anchored MSE and bow face mask for PROTACTION you utter fucking moron. It's not a god damn implant.
 
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Implants like this that cover surfaces areas in this continuous way are complete shit
Kills all seperation , tapering , not to mention big design companies don't understand shit about transitions + taper
This is shit
 
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Are you recessed? According to all major studies, only 15 - 25% of people have a forward grown maxilla. This means that most of the planet (75 - 85% of people, or 8 out of 10 people,) have a suboptimal, recessed maxilla, a recessed maxilla usually also entails a recessed upper maxilla. This is water to say, however the maxilla is easily the most important bone in the entire face. You cannot be good looking with out a good maxilla unless you are literally 9+ on every other feature.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

View attachment 4881709View attachment 4881725

Which one of these two men do you think mogs? Unless you’re blind, it’s very obviously the one on the right, Jordan Barrett, who has an exceptionally forward grown maxilla.

The maxilla is a very unique facial bone because unlike something like the lower jaw (the mandible,) the maxilla affects nearly every other important bone in the face.

It affects the lower orbitals/eye area, which is essential for canthal support which is what causes the compact “hunter eyes” shape that nearly all psl gods have.
View attachment 4881756

It affects the nose, which is an essential part of facial aesthetics. You cannot mog with a short, recessed nose.
View attachment 4881785

It also affects the zygomatic bone (the cheekbones) which are so essential to looking good that they are nicknamed “the bone of beauty.” It is impossible to have hollow cheeks (good OGEE curve) without prominent cheekbones as well as just looking good at base as since you are a male, your cheekbones are a sexually dimorphic trait. You will look feminine and “cute” (not a compliment) without good cheekbones.
View attachment 4881831

It is the main determinant in facial depth (specifically the upper maxilla) making it vital for a good side, you cannot mog if you don't have a good maxilla from the front or the side.
View attachment 4881853
(Inb4 iqlets say "muh Chico muh Robert Pattinson" jfl. Just have everything else as well as a wide maxilla theory. They are still genetically gifted.)


____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

For a very long time, the only fix to a recessed maxilla was through Lefort II/III Osteotomy, which is an extremely invasive, risky, and most importantly, expensive ($45,000 - $60,000+) and barred procedure that is limited only for people that have severe issues health issues, it is rarely (less than .1% of procedures) ever given out for aesthetic purposes because of how risky it is. That is until now.

Introducing the Midface Mask Implant, possibly the most underrated, and best facial implant you could possibly get for what it is. View attachment 4881900

As seen above, this thing covers almost the entire upper midface. Specifically it covers:

- The Infraorbital Rims: The bony edge immediately below the eye socket. Augmenting this area helps correct "tear trough" deformities and provides support to the lower eyelid.

- The Zygomatic Bones (Cheekbones): The central part of the cheekbone. The implant provides anterior (forward) projection and, depending on the patient's goal, can also add lateral cheek width.

- The Paranasal/Maxillary Region: The area surrounding the base of the nose and the upper jaw. This is crucial for correcting midface flatness and improving support for the nasolabial folds (the lines running from the nose to the mouth).

Midface mask implants emerged from the evolution of 3D CT-based custom prosthetics, transitioning from isolated, off-the-shelf facial implants to patient-specific, multi-zone reconstructions. They were developed to solve the limitations of standard implants, which often failed to create seamless, continuous transitions across the infraorbital, malar, and paranasal regions. Unlike standard implants that come pre-made, the Midface Mask Implant is made unique for every patient, ensuring that results are harmonious with the face and fit.

Cost: $6000 - $15,000 (for reference, a Lefort II/III can go from $30,000 to $60,000. You are getting the same results for 1/5th or less of the price.)

Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
View attachment 4882008View attachment 4882019

Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

View attachment 4882967

Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.

To continue on the concept developed, this is what the average Midface Implant+ Jaw/Chin implants result could look like if both were done in the same procedure:
View attachment 4883176

Obviously this dude had good upper facial width in his before and got jaw implants, however most of the forum is peanut skulled and would require both upper and lower facial surgeries to achieve this type of look. Look at how amazing that result is though.

Assuming the highest is charged for both implants, the transformation above would cost approximately $45,000 for Midface Mask Implants + Jaw/Chin implants. That is less than the cost of Lefort II/III by themselves and less/around the same price of a Bimax depending on who you're getting it from.

It also costs significantly less than the cost of getting implants for any of the areas mentioned by themselves/together.

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So as with any procedure, what are the risks?

Compared to a lot of other procedures/implants, the risk/botch rate is remarkably low, the best mitigation strategy is simply to choose an experienced surgeon.


The main risks are Nerve Damage (specifically to the Infraorbital nerve,) Infection, Asymmetry, Lower Eyelid Malposition, and Step-Off Edges. All of these are dealt with and mitigated during/before the procedure.

Nerve Damage (Permanent: <1%; Temporary: 15%): The infraorbital nerve sits right in the middle of the implant’s territory. It provides sensation to your mid-cheek, side of the nose, and upper lip.
Risk Mitigation: During the 3D design phase, the implant is engineered with a notched tunnel or foramen that fits perfectly over the nerve. This allows the implant to sit flush against the bone without putting any pressure on the nerve itself.

Infection (1% - 4%): Large implants provide a significant surface area for bacteria to colonize. If an infection takes hold on the surface of the implant, the body’s immune system often cannot reach it, potentially requiring the removal of the device.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use strict aseptic techniques, often soaking the implant in a triple-antibiotic solution before insertion. Many masks are made of PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) or Porous Polyethylene (Medpor); Medpor allows for tissue ingrowth, which helps the body’s immune cells integrate into the material to fight bacteria.

Asymmetry (Near 0%): Because the mask is a single, rigid piece, if it is off by even a millimeter, the entire midface can look crooked.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use 3D-printed surgical guides and titanium screw fixation. The screws lock the implant into the exact coordinates predetermined by the CT scan, ensuring it cannot shift during the healing process. With a custom mask, the chance of skeletal asymmetry is near 0% because the implant is 3D-printed to fit your bone perfectly. Most "asymmetry" reported with masks is actually just pre-existing soft tissue (skin/fat) differences that the implant didn't fully mask.

Step-Off Edges (3%>): If the implant is too thick or the edges are blunt, you might be able to feel (or see) where the plastic ends and your bone begins.
Risk Mitigation: The implant edges are digitally feathered to a thickness of nearly zero. This ensures a seamless transition so that the implant feels like a natural extension of the skull.

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No clue if this'll get pinned or not but I guess that just depends on how the thread does. Who cares honestly, as long as someone gets some help from it.

This is a very good procedure, and it deserves more visibility. This is a functional, aesthetic replacement for Bimax/Lefort/BSSO, one of the most popular if not the most popular aesthetic procedures for facial aesthetics ever. This is a gem. Hardmaxx TODAY.

Your perfect life awaits you, your hot wife, your high paying job, the admiration from everyone you meet no matter what, your future kid's respect for you. All of this is a few surgeries away, will you dedicate your life this one time? Or will you let the opportunity pass and some other man do it and live your dream life while you rot away?

NO FAILO IS UNFIXABLE. ITS NEVER OVER. NEVER LDAR.

THE WORLD IS YOURS.

tony montana film GIF



@Sayori @Hernan @Orka @HtnceI @Jason Voorhees
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what would be the best material of choice for the implant
 
Implants like this that cover surfaces areas in this continuous way are complete shit
Kills all seperation , tapering , not to mention big design companies don't understand shit about transitions + taper
This is shit
i think @bossman said this

seems too good to be true tbh

@yussimania whatd u think of the procedure
 
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@tweaqo im sure you'd disagree no?
 
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i think @bossman said this

seems too good to be true tbh

@yussimania whatd u think of the procedure
The user you replied to is correct
 
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fuck i thought so

a big implant spanning the whole midface will obviously have problems right

way too good to be true
 
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fuck i thought so

a big implant spanning the whole midface will obviously have problems right

way too good to be true
Not only that but it likely being an intraoral approach means you're gonna release alot of ligaments to place the implant down that it's likely there will be midfacial sagging or accelerated aging regardless of the implant taking up more volume for the soft tissue to drape over

And you will need perfusion holes to allow blood vessels to form so tissue doesn't die
 
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Not only that but it likely being an intraoral approach means you're gonna release alot of ligaments to place the implant down that it's likely there will be midfacial sagging or accelerated aging regardless of the implant taking up more volume for the soft tissue to drape over

And you will need perfusion holes to allow blood vessels to form so tissue doesn't die
i see

can midfacial sagging be avoided with good implant design and a good surgeon

yes i understand there will still be risks just hypothetically
 
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Implants like this that cover surfaces areas in this continuous way are complete shit
Kills all seperation , tapering , not to mention big design companies don't understand shit about transitions + taper
This is shit
You know absolutely nothing about surgeries or implants. The midface mask is done almost exclusively by Eppley who makes the implants himself since he’s a pioneer in it, and it’s made to fit. You can also choose to not have the infraorbital region included if you’d like and use fat grafting instead.
Also notice how I explicitly mentioned “Custom Midface Mask?” That’s because it’s not a one size fits all, it’s made custom for every person. There is no “big designer company” unless you’re getting your implants done by some bootleg clinic in the slums of Istanbul.
Not only that but it likely being an intraoral approach means you're gonna release alot of ligaments to place the implant down that it's likely there will be midfacial sagging or accelerated aging regardless of the implant taking up more volume for the soft tissue to drape over

And you will need perfusion holes to allow blood vessels to form so tissue doesn't die
The implant is screwed into place, and a forward grown maxilla literally prevents aging, look at the difference between Lachowsk at 30 and Sean O at 30. Yes the implant is somewhat complex and that’s why you don’t have idiots perform on you. Your entire argument spans from you wanting to cheap out and complaining that nobodies in Turkey don’t do this revolutionary implant safely.
i see

can midfacial sagging be avoided with good implant design and a good surgeon

yes i understand there will still be risks just hypothetically
That guy is a 2025cel and he’s clueless about what he’s talking about. If the surgeon himself is good, then you are fine. The ROI is what’s important. Your life will be a lot more miserable if you don’t mog and age like shit due to your suboptimal maxilliary growth.

All surgeries come with notable risks. The bimax is the most popular jaw surgery on earth and it comes with the chance of giving you permanent TMJ and permanent numbness on your face, yet millions get it. The surgeon matters, not the risks.

@Jason Voorhees @Sayori @HtnceI @Jgns
 
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You know absolutely nothing about surgeries or implants. The midface mask is done almost exclusively by Eppley since he’s a pioneer in it, and it’s made to fit. You can also choose to not have the infraorbital region included if you’d like and use fat grafting instead.

The implant is screwed into place, and a forward grown maxilla literally prevents aging, look at the difference between Lachowsk at 30 and Sean O at 30. Yes the implant is somewhat complex and that’s why you don’t have idiots perform on you. Your entire argument spans from you wanting to cheap out and complaining that nobodies in Turkey don’t do this revolutionary implant safely.

That guy is a 2025cel and he’s clueless about what he’s talking about. If the surgeon himself is good, then you are fine. The ROI is what’s important. Your life will be a lot more miserable if you don’t mog and age like shit due to your suboptimal maxilliary growth.

@Jason Voorhees @Sayori @HtnceI @Jgns
Rare illusion non thread post,

But yeah I agree
 
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You know absolutely nothing about surgeries or implants. The midface mask is done almost exclusively by Eppley since he’s a pioneer in it, and it’s made to fit. You can also choose to not have the infraorbital region included if you’d like and use fat grafting instead

@Jason Voorhees @Sayori @HtnceI @Jgns
1. infraorbital implants will be always better as on option for orbital support imo

2. Its not the functionality / practicality that is the main issue it is the cosmetic end goal, big midface implants for example are often an issue because of this, this even includes inframalar

i think that both may be good but on average (most people will not be preformed on by eppley lets be real) seperate implants will be much better for aesthetics as the tapering and seperation across the midface will be better

i do think maybe with a good surgeon and a good design it may work but i much prefer seperate implants

for 80 percent of cases its just not realistic
The implant is screwed into place, and a forward grown maxilla literally prevents aging, look at the difference between Lachowsk at 30 and Sean O at 30. Yes the implant is somewhat complex and that’s why you don’t have idiots perform on you. Your entire argument spans from you wanting to cheap out and complaining that nobodies in Turkey don’t do this revolutionary implant safely.
additional projection will provide a more youthful augmented look but he wasnt arguing that he was arguing that it may cause midfacial sagging
That guy is a 2025cel and he’s clueless about what he’s talking about. If the surgeon himself is good, then you are fine. The ROI is what’s important. Your life will be a lot more miserable if you don’t mog and age like shit due to your suboptimal maxilliary growth.

All surgeries come with notable risks. The bimax is the most popular jaw surgery on earth and it comes with the chance of giving you permanent TMJ and permanent numbness on your face, yet millions get it. The surgeon matters, not the risks.
join date is arbitrary to if a person is informed or not


in conclusion if you get this done from eppley youll probably be fine but its still a better option to get seperated implants as it is more convenient (not inc the costs which will be more)


@Firstname.Lastname whatd u think?
 
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The implant is screwed into place, and a forward grown maxilla literally prevents aging, look at the difference between Lachowsk at 30 and Sean O at 30. Yes the implant is somewhat complex and that’s why you don’t have idiots perform on you. Your entire argument spans from you wanting to cheap out and complaining that nobodies in Turkey don’t do this revolutionary implant safely.

That guy is a 2025cel and he’s clueless about what he’s talking about. If the surgeon himself is good, then you are fine. The ROI is what’s important. Your life will be a lot more miserable if you don’t mog and age like shit due to your suboptimal maxilliary growth.

You're a fucking idiot you thought Scolo had midfacial implants when it was FME orthodontic expansion - join date doesn't mean shit if you're a misinformed dumbass

Post in thread 'People who think infra orbital implants is not worth it' https://looksmax.org/threads/people...mplants-is-not-worth-it.1617424/post-23048316
 
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You're a fucking idiot you thought Scolo had midfacial implants when it was FME orthodontic expansion - join date doesn't mean shit if you're a misinformed dumbass

Post in thread 'People who think infra orbital implants is not worth it' https://looksmax.org/threads/people...mplants-is-not-worth-it.1617424/post-23048316
im shocked this was pinned to the general lm board. shit is built on a complete and blatant lie preying on niggas who just learned about surgery and are in that phase where they overestimate tf out of whats possible. JFL at dismissing everything cuz of ur join date this guy isnt real.
deleted my comment on his profile asking why he made this disingenuous thread but keeps all the dickriders who're glazing over basic observations as to why you shouldnt rope
 
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@tweaqo im sure you'd disagree no?
It’s not very feasible. Implant show will likely be obvious with these. Especially when making facial expressions, u might start looking very odd
 
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Are you recessed? According to all major studies, only 15 - 25% of people have a forward grown maxilla. This means that most of the planet (75 - 85% of people, or 8 out of 10 people,) have a suboptimal, recessed maxilla, a recessed maxilla usually also entails a recessed upper maxilla. This is water to say, however the maxilla is easily the most important bone in the entire face. You cannot be good looking with out a good maxilla unless you are literally 9+ on every other feature.

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View attachment 4881709View attachment 4881725

Which one of these two men do you think mogs? Unless you’re blind, it’s very obviously the one on the right, Jordan Barrett, who has an exceptionally forward grown maxilla.

The maxilla is a very unique facial bone because unlike something like the lower jaw (the mandible,) the maxilla affects nearly every other important bone in the face.

It affects the lower orbitals/eye area, which is essential for canthal support which is what causes the compact “hunter eyes” shape that nearly all psl gods have.
View attachment 4881756

It affects the nose, which is an essential part of facial aesthetics. You cannot mog with a short, recessed nose.
View attachment 4881785

It also affects the zygomatic bone (the cheekbones) which are so essential to looking good that they are nicknamed “the bone of beauty.” It is impossible to have hollow cheeks (good OGEE curve) without prominent cheekbones as well as just looking good at base as since you are a male, your cheekbones are a sexually dimorphic trait. You will look feminine and “cute” (not a compliment) without good cheekbones.
View attachment 4881831

It is the main determinant in facial depth (specifically the upper maxilla) making it vital for a good side, you cannot mog if you don't have a good maxilla from the front or the side.
View attachment 4881853
(Inb4 iqlets say "muh Chico muh Robert Pattinson" jfl. Just have everything else as well as a wide maxilla theory. They are still genetically gifted.)


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For a very long time, the only fix to a recessed maxilla was through Lefort II/III Osteotomy, which is an extremely invasive, risky, and most importantly, expensive ($45,000 - $60,000+) and barred procedure that is limited only for people that have severe issues health issues, it is rarely (less than .1% of procedures) ever given out for aesthetic purposes because of how risky it is. That is until now.

Introducing the Midface Mask Implant, possibly the most underrated, and best facial implant you could possibly get for what it is. View attachment 4881900

As seen above, this thing covers almost the entire upper midface. Specifically it covers:

- The Infraorbital Rims: The bony edge immediately below the eye socket. Augmenting this area helps correct "tear trough" deformities and provides support to the lower eyelid.

- The Zygomatic Bones (Cheekbones): The central part of the cheekbone. The implant provides anterior (forward) projection and, depending on the patient's goal, can also add lateral cheek width.

- The Paranasal/Maxillary Region: The area surrounding the base of the nose and the upper jaw. This is crucial for correcting midface flatness and improving support for the nasolabial folds (the lines running from the nose to the mouth).

Midface mask implants emerged from the evolution of 3D CT-based custom prosthetics, transitioning from isolated, off-the-shelf facial implants to patient-specific, multi-zone reconstructions. They were developed to solve the limitations of standard implants, which often failed to create seamless, continuous transitions across the infraorbital, malar, and paranasal regions. Unlike standard implants that come pre-made, the Midface Mask Implant is made unique for every patient, ensuring that results are harmonious with the face and fit.

Cost: $6000 - $15,000 (for reference, a Lefort II/III can go from $30,000 to $60,000. You are getting the same results for 1/5th or less of the price.)

Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
View attachment 4882008View attachment 4882019

Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

View attachment 4882967

Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.

To continue on the concept developed, this is what the average Midface Implant+ Jaw/Chin implants result could look like if both were done in the same procedure:
View attachment 4883176

Obviously this dude had good upper facial width in his before and got jaw implants, however most of the forum is peanut skulled and would require both upper and lower facial surgeries to achieve this type of look. Look at how amazing that result is though.

Assuming the highest is charged for both implants, the transformation above would cost approximately $45,000 for Midface Mask Implants + Jaw/Chin implants. That is less than the cost of Lefort II/III by themselves and less/around the same price of a Bimax depending on who you're getting it from.

It also costs significantly less than the cost of getting implants for any of the areas mentioned by themselves/together.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So as with any procedure, what are the risks?

Compared to a lot of other procedures/implants, the risk/botch rate is remarkably low, the best mitigation strategy is simply to choose an experienced surgeon.


The main risks are Nerve Damage (specifically to the Infraorbital nerve,) Infection, Asymmetry, Lower Eyelid Malposition, and Step-Off Edges. All of these are dealt with and mitigated during/before the procedure.

Nerve Damage (Permanent: <1%; Temporary: 15%): The infraorbital nerve sits right in the middle of the implant’s territory. It provides sensation to your mid-cheek, side of the nose, and upper lip.
Risk Mitigation: During the 3D design phase, the implant is engineered with a notched tunnel or foramen that fits perfectly over the nerve. This allows the implant to sit flush against the bone without putting any pressure on the nerve itself.

Infection (1% - 4%): Large implants provide a significant surface area for bacteria to colonize. If an infection takes hold on the surface of the implant, the body’s immune system often cannot reach it, potentially requiring the removal of the device.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use strict aseptic techniques, often soaking the implant in a triple-antibiotic solution before insertion. Many masks are made of PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) or Porous Polyethylene (Medpor); Medpor allows for tissue ingrowth, which helps the body’s immune cells integrate into the material to fight bacteria.

Asymmetry (Near 0%): Because the mask is a single, rigid piece, if it is off by even a millimeter, the entire midface can look crooked.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use 3D-printed surgical guides and titanium screw fixation. The screws lock the implant into the exact coordinates predetermined by the CT scan, ensuring it cannot shift during the healing process. With a custom mask, the chance of skeletal asymmetry is near 0% because the implant is 3D-printed to fit your bone perfectly. Most "asymmetry" reported with masks is actually just pre-existing soft tissue (skin/fat) differences that the implant didn't fully mask.

Step-Off Edges (3%>): If the implant is too thick or the edges are blunt, you might be able to feel (or see) where the plastic ends and your bone begins.
Risk Mitigation: The implant edges are digitally feathered to a thickness of nearly zero. This ensures a seamless transition so that the implant feels like a natural extension of the skull.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

No clue if this'll get pinned or not but I guess that just depends on how the thread does. Who cares honestly, as long as someone gets some help from it.

This is a very good procedure, and it deserves more visibility. This is a functional, aesthetic replacement for Bimax/Lefort/BSSO, one of the most popular if not the most popular aesthetic procedures for facial aesthetics ever. This is a gem. Hardmaxx TODAY.

Your perfect life awaits you, your hot wife, your high paying job, the admiration from everyone you meet no matter what, your future kid's respect for you. All of this is a few surgeries away, will you dedicate your life this one time? Or will you let the opportunity pass and some other man do it and live your dream life while you rot away?

NO FAILO IS UNFIXABLE. ITS NEVER OVER. NEVER LDAR.

THE WORLD IS YOURS.

tony montana film GIF



@Sayori @Hernan @Orka @HtnceI @Jason Voorhees
Maxilla is the bone of beauty
 
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Are you recessed? According to all major studies, only 15 - 25% of people have a forward grown maxilla. This means that most of the planet (75 - 85% of people, or 8 out of 10 people,) have a suboptimal, recessed maxilla, a recessed maxilla usually also entails a recessed upper maxilla. This is water to say, however the maxilla is easily the most important bone in the entire face. You cannot be good looking with out a good maxilla unless you are literally 9+ on every other feature.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

View attachment 4881709View attachment 4881725

Which one of these two men do you think mogs? Unless you’re blind, it’s very obviously the one on the right, Jordan Barrett, who has an exceptionally forward grown maxilla.

The maxilla is a very unique facial bone because unlike something like the lower jaw (the mandible,) the maxilla affects nearly every other important bone in the face.

It affects the lower orbitals/eye area, which is essential for canthal support which is what causes the compact “hunter eyes” shape that nearly all psl gods have.
View attachment 4881756

It affects the nose, which is an essential part of facial aesthetics. You cannot mog with a short, recessed nose.
View attachment 4881785

It also affects the zygomatic bone (the cheekbones) which are so essential to looking good that they are nicknamed “the bone of beauty.” It is impossible to have hollow cheeks (good OGEE curve) without prominent cheekbones as well as just looking good at base as since you are a male, your cheekbones are a sexually dimorphic trait. You will look feminine and “cute” (not a compliment) without good cheekbones.
View attachment 4881831

It is the main determinant in facial depth (specifically the upper maxilla) making it vital for a good side, you cannot mog if you don't have a good maxilla from the front or the side.
View attachment 4881853
(Inb4 iqlets say "muh Chico muh Robert Pattinson" jfl. Just have everything else as well as a wide maxilla theory. They are still genetically gifted.)


____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

For a very long time, the only fix to a recessed maxilla was through Lefort II/III Osteotomy, which is an extremely invasive, risky, and most importantly, expensive ($45,000 - $60,000+) and barred procedure that is limited only for people that have severe issues health issues, it is rarely (less than .1% of procedures) ever given out for aesthetic purposes because of how risky it is. That is until now.

Introducing the Midface Mask Implant, possibly the most underrated, and best facial implant you could possibly get for what it is. View attachment 4881900

As seen above, this thing covers almost the entire upper midface. Specifically it covers:

- The Infraorbital Rims: The bony edge immediately below the eye socket. Augmenting this area helps correct "tear trough" deformities and provides support to the lower eyelid.

- The Zygomatic Bones (Cheekbones): The central part of the cheekbone. The implant provides anterior (forward) projection and, depending on the patient's goal, can also add lateral cheek width.

- The Paranasal/Maxillary Region: The area surrounding the base of the nose and the upper jaw. This is crucial for correcting midface flatness and improving support for the nasolabial folds (the lines running from the nose to the mouth).

Midface mask implants emerged from the evolution of 3D CT-based custom prosthetics, transitioning from isolated, off-the-shelf facial implants to patient-specific, multi-zone reconstructions. They were developed to solve the limitations of standard implants, which often failed to create seamless, continuous transitions across the infraorbital, malar, and paranasal regions. Unlike standard implants that come pre-made, the Midface Mask Implant is made unique for every patient, ensuring that results are harmonious with the face and fit.

Cost: $6000 - $15,000 (for reference, a Lefort II/III can go from $30,000 to $60,000. You are getting the same results for 1/5th or less of the price.)

Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
View attachment 4882008View attachment 4882019

Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

View attachment 4882967

Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.

To continue on the concept developed, this is what the average Midface Implant+ Jaw/Chin implants result could look like if both were done in the same procedure:
View attachment 4883176

Obviously this dude had good upper facial width in his before and got jaw implants, however most of the forum is peanut skulled and would require both upper and lower facial surgeries to achieve this type of look. Look at how amazing that result is though.

Assuming the highest is charged for both implants, the transformation above would cost approximately $45,000 for Midface Mask Implants + Jaw/Chin implants. That is less than the cost of Lefort II/III by themselves and less/around the same price of a Bimax depending on who you're getting it from.

It also costs significantly less than the cost of getting implants for any of the areas mentioned by themselves/together.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So as with any procedure, what are the risks?

Compared to a lot of other procedures/implants, the risk/botch rate is remarkably low, the best mitigation strategy is simply to choose an experienced surgeon.


The main risks are Nerve Damage (specifically to the Infraorbital nerve,) Infection, Asymmetry, Lower Eyelid Malposition, and Step-Off Edges. All of these are dealt with and mitigated during/before the procedure.

Nerve Damage (Permanent: <1%; Temporary: 15%): The infraorbital nerve sits right in the middle of the implant’s territory. It provides sensation to your mid-cheek, side of the nose, and upper lip.
Risk Mitigation: During the 3D design phase, the implant is engineered with a notched tunnel or foramen that fits perfectly over the nerve. This allows the implant to sit flush against the bone without putting any pressure on the nerve itself.

Infection (1% - 4%): Large implants provide a significant surface area for bacteria to colonize. If an infection takes hold on the surface of the implant, the body’s immune system often cannot reach it, potentially requiring the removal of the device.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use strict aseptic techniques, often soaking the implant in a triple-antibiotic solution before insertion. Many masks are made of PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) or Porous Polyethylene (Medpor); Medpor allows for tissue ingrowth, which helps the body’s immune cells integrate into the material to fight bacteria.

Asymmetry (Near 0%): Because the mask is a single, rigid piece, if it is off by even a millimeter, the entire midface can look crooked.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use 3D-printed surgical guides and titanium screw fixation. The screws lock the implant into the exact coordinates predetermined by the CT scan, ensuring it cannot shift during the healing process. With a custom mask, the chance of skeletal asymmetry is near 0% because the implant is 3D-printed to fit your bone perfectly. Most "asymmetry" reported with masks is actually just pre-existing soft tissue (skin/fat) differences that the implant didn't fully mask.

Step-Off Edges (3%>): If the implant is too thick or the edges are blunt, you might be able to feel (or see) where the plastic ends and your bone begins.
Risk Mitigation: The implant edges are digitally feathered to a thickness of nearly zero. This ensures a seamless transition so that the implant feels like a natural extension of the skull.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

No clue if this'll get pinned or not but I guess that just depends on how the thread does. Who cares honestly, as long as someone gets some help from it.

This is a very good procedure, and it deserves more visibility. This is a functional, aesthetic replacement for Bimax/Lefort/BSSO, one of the most popular if not the most popular aesthetic procedures for facial aesthetics ever. This is a gem. Hardmaxx TODAY.

Your perfect life awaits you, your hot wife, your high paying job, the admiration from everyone you meet no matter what, your future kid's respect for you. All of this is a few surgeries away, will you dedicate your life this one time? Or will you let the opportunity pass and some other man do it and live your dream life while you rot away?

NO FAILO IS UNFIXABLE. ITS NEVER OVER. NEVER LDAR.

THE WORLD IS YOURS.

tony montana film GIF



@Sayori @Hernan @Orka @HtnceI @Jason Voorhees
I genuinely don't see how this would work

the implant would have to be so stupidly accurate to achieve a normal result, let alone a good one

highly doubt these results are from an implant
 
Not only that but it likely being an intraoral approach means you're gonna release alot of ligaments to place the implant down that it's likely there will be midfacial sagging or accelerated aging regardless of the implant taking up more volume for the soft tissue to drape over

And you will need perfusion holes to allow blood vessels to form so tissue doesn't die
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Are you recessed? According to all major studies, only 15 - 25% of people have a forward grown maxilla. This means that most of the planet (75 - 85% of people, or 8 out of 10 people,) have a suboptimal, recessed maxilla, a recessed maxilla usually also entails a recessed upper maxilla. This is water to say, however the maxilla is easily the most important bone in the entire face. You cannot be good looking with out a good maxilla unless you are literally 9+ on every other feature.

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View attachment 4881709View attachment 4881725

Which one of these two men do you think mogs? Unless you’re blind, it’s very obviously the one on the right, Jordan Barrett, who has an exceptionally forward grown maxilla.

The maxilla is a very unique facial bone because unlike something like the lower jaw (the mandible,) the maxilla affects nearly every other important bone in the face.

It affects the lower orbitals/eye area, which is essential for canthal support which is what causes the compact “hunter eyes” shape that nearly all psl gods have.
View attachment 4881756

It affects the nose, which is an essential part of facial aesthetics. You cannot mog with a short, recessed nose.
View attachment 4881785

It also affects the zygomatic bone (the cheekbones) which are so essential to looking good that they are nicknamed “the bone of beauty.” It is impossible to have hollow cheeks (good OGEE curve) without prominent cheekbones as well as just looking good at base as since you are a male, your cheekbones are a sexually dimorphic trait. You will look feminine and “cute” (not a compliment) without good cheekbones.
View attachment 4881831

It is the main determinant in facial depth (specifically the upper maxilla) making it vital for a good side, you cannot mog if you don't have a good maxilla from the front or the side.
View attachment 4881853
(Inb4 iqlets say "muh Chico muh Robert Pattinson" jfl. Just have everything else as well as a wide maxilla theory. They are still genetically gifted.)


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For a very long time, the only fix to a recessed maxilla was through Lefort II/III Osteotomy, which is an extremely invasive, risky, and most importantly, expensive ($45,000 - $60,000+) and barred procedure that is limited only for people that have severe issues health issues, it is rarely (less than .1% of procedures) ever given out for aesthetic purposes because of how risky it is. That is until now.

Introducing the Midface Mask Implant, possibly the most underrated, and best facial implant you could possibly get for what it is. View attachment 4881900

As seen above, this thing covers almost the entire upper midface. Specifically it covers:

- The Infraorbital Rims: The bony edge immediately below the eye socket. Augmenting this area helps correct "tear trough" deformities and provides support to the lower eyelid.

- The Zygomatic Bones (Cheekbones): The central part of the cheekbone. The implant provides anterior (forward) projection and, depending on the patient's goal, can also add lateral cheek width.

- The Paranasal/Maxillary Region: The area surrounding the base of the nose and the upper jaw. This is crucial for correcting midface flatness and improving support for the nasolabial folds (the lines running from the nose to the mouth).

Midface mask implants emerged from the evolution of 3D CT-based custom prosthetics, transitioning from isolated, off-the-shelf facial implants to patient-specific, multi-zone reconstructions. They were developed to solve the limitations of standard implants, which often failed to create seamless, continuous transitions across the infraorbital, malar, and paranasal regions. Unlike standard implants that come pre-made, the Midface Mask Implant is made unique for every patient, ensuring that results are harmonious with the face and fit.

Cost: $6000 - $15,000 (for reference, a Lefort II/III can go from $30,000 to $60,000. You are getting the same results for 1/5th or less of the price.)

Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
View attachment 4882008View attachment 4882019

Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

View attachment 4882967

Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.

To continue on the concept developed, this is what the average Midface Implant+ Jaw/Chin implants result could look like if both were done in the same procedure:
View attachment 4883176

Obviously this dude had good upper facial width in his before and got jaw implants, however most of the forum is peanut skulled and would require both upper and lower facial surgeries to achieve this type of look. Look at how amazing that result is though.

Assuming the highest is charged for both implants, the transformation above would cost approximately $45,000 for Midface Mask Implants + Jaw/Chin implants. That is less than the cost of Lefort II/III by themselves and less/around the same price of a Bimax depending on who you're getting it from.

It also costs significantly less than the cost of getting implants for any of the areas mentioned by themselves/together.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So as with any procedure, what are the risks?

Compared to a lot of other procedures/implants, the risk/botch rate is remarkably low, the best mitigation strategy is simply to choose an experienced surgeon.


The main risks are Nerve Damage (specifically to the Infraorbital nerve,) Infection, Asymmetry, Lower Eyelid Malposition, and Step-Off Edges. All of these are dealt with and mitigated during/before the procedure.

Nerve Damage (Permanent: <1%; Temporary: 15%): The infraorbital nerve sits right in the middle of the implant’s territory. It provides sensation to your mid-cheek, side of the nose, and upper lip.
Risk Mitigation: During the 3D design phase, the implant is engineered with a notched tunnel or foramen that fits perfectly over the nerve. This allows the implant to sit flush against the bone without putting any pressure on the nerve itself.

Infection (1% - 4%): Large implants provide a significant surface area for bacteria to colonize. If an infection takes hold on the surface of the implant, the body’s immune system often cannot reach it, potentially requiring the removal of the device.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use strict aseptic techniques, often soaking the implant in a triple-antibiotic solution before insertion. Many masks are made of PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) or Porous Polyethylene (Medpor); Medpor allows for tissue ingrowth, which helps the body’s immune cells integrate into the material to fight bacteria.

Asymmetry (Near 0%): Because the mask is a single, rigid piece, if it is off by even a millimeter, the entire midface can look crooked.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use 3D-printed surgical guides and titanium screw fixation. The screws lock the implant into the exact coordinates predetermined by the CT scan, ensuring it cannot shift during the healing process. With a custom mask, the chance of skeletal asymmetry is near 0% because the implant is 3D-printed to fit your bone perfectly. Most "asymmetry" reported with masks is actually just pre-existing soft tissue (skin/fat) differences that the implant didn't fully mask.

Step-Off Edges (3%>): If the implant is too thick or the edges are blunt, you might be able to feel (or see) where the plastic ends and your bone begins.
Risk Mitigation: The implant edges are digitally feathered to a thickness of nearly zero. This ensures a seamless transition so that the implant feels like a natural extension of the skull.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

No clue if this'll get pinned or not but I guess that just depends on how the thread does. Who cares honestly, as long as someone gets some help from it.

This is a very good procedure, and it deserves more visibility. This is a functional, aesthetic replacement for Bimax/Lefort/BSSO, one of the most popular if not the most popular aesthetic procedures for facial aesthetics ever. This is a gem. Hardmaxx TODAY.

Your perfect life awaits you, your hot wife, your high paying job, the admiration from everyone you meet no matter what, your future kid's respect for you. All of this is a few surgeries away, will you dedicate your life this one time? Or will you let the opportunity pass and some other man do it and live your dream life while you rot away?

NO FAILO IS UNFIXABLE. ITS NEVER OVER. NEVER LDAR.

THE WORLD IS YOURS.

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Are you recessed? According to all major studies, only 15 - 25% of people have a forward grown maxilla. This means that most of the planet (75 - 85% of people, or 8 out of 10 people,) have a suboptimal, recessed maxilla, a recessed maxilla usually also entails a recessed upper maxilla. This is water to say, however the maxilla is easily the most important bone in the entire face. You cannot be good looking with out a good maxilla unless you are literally 9+ on every other feature.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

View attachment 4881709View attachment 4881725

Which one of these two men do you think mogs? Unless you’re blind, it’s very obviously the one on the right, Jordan Barrett, who has an exceptionally forward grown maxilla.

The maxilla is a very unique facial bone because unlike something like the lower jaw (the mandible,) the maxilla affects nearly every other important bone in the face.

It affects the lower orbitals/eye area, which is essential for canthal support which is what causes the compact “hunter eyes” shape that nearly all psl gods have.
View attachment 4881756

It affects the nose, which is an essential part of facial aesthetics. You cannot mog with a short, recessed nose.
View attachment 4881785

It also affects the zygomatic bone (the cheekbones) which are so essential to looking good that they are nicknamed “the bone of beauty.” It is impossible to have hollow cheeks (good OGEE curve) without prominent cheekbones as well as just looking good at base as since you are a male, your cheekbones are a sexually dimorphic trait. You will look feminine and “cute” (not a compliment) without good cheekbones.
View attachment 4881831

It is the main determinant in facial depth (specifically the upper maxilla) making it vital for a good side, you cannot mog if you don't have a good maxilla from the front or the side.
View attachment 4881853
(Inb4 iqlets say "muh Chico muh Robert Pattinson" jfl. Just have everything else as well as a wide maxilla theory. They are still genetically gifted.)


____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

For a very long time, the only fix to a recessed maxilla was through Lefort II/III Osteotomy, which is an extremely invasive, risky, and most importantly, expensive ($45,000 - $60,000+) and barred procedure that is limited only for people that have severe issues health issues, it is rarely (less than .1% of procedures) ever given out for aesthetic purposes because of how risky it is. That is until now.

Introducing the Midface Mask Implant, possibly the most underrated, and best facial implant you could possibly get for what it is. View attachment 4881900

As seen above, this thing covers almost the entire upper midface. Specifically it covers:

- The Infraorbital Rims: The bony edge immediately below the eye socket. Augmenting this area helps correct "tear trough" deformities and provides support to the lower eyelid.

- The Zygomatic Bones (Cheekbones): The central part of the cheekbone. The implant provides anterior (forward) projection and, depending on the patient's goal, can also add lateral cheek width.

- The Paranasal/Maxillary Region: The area surrounding the base of the nose and the upper jaw. This is crucial for correcting midface flatness and improving support for the nasolabial folds (the lines running from the nose to the mouth).

Midface mask implants emerged from the evolution of 3D CT-based custom prosthetics, transitioning from isolated, off-the-shelf facial implants to patient-specific, multi-zone reconstructions. They were developed to solve the limitations of standard implants, which often failed to create seamless, continuous transitions across the infraorbital, malar, and paranasal regions. Unlike standard implants that come pre-made, the Midface Mask Implant is made unique for every patient, ensuring that results are harmonious with the face and fit.

Cost: $6000 - $15,000 (for reference, a Lefort II/III can go from $30,000 to $60,000. You are getting the same results for 1/5th or less of the price.)

Here are the results of a Lefort III Osteotomy vs a Midface Mask Implant:

Lefort III Osteotomy: Midface Mask Implant:
View attachment 4882008View attachment 4882019

Could you have you told which was which? The girl being severely deformed in that first photo probably gives it away as the Lefort III but just look at the man's results. What an ascension off of a single procedure. This is because the Midface Mask was innovated to be an implant that gives the results of a Lefort procedure without the actual moving of the bone. Let's take a look at the frontal.

View attachment 4882967

Mogger results. If this was combined with Jaw/Chin implants, this dude could've ascended 2 - 3 levels instantly, effectively removing the need for a cosmetic Bimax which is huge. Implants have a much lower recovery time and are generally less risky than Osteotomies such as BSSO and Lefort (combined to make the Bimax.) Essentially, you would not need a Bimax unless you had actual ortho problems or a cosmetic thing like Counter-Clockwise or Clockwise Rotation which obviously cannot be solved with implants.

To continue on the concept developed, this is what the average Midface Implant+ Jaw/Chin implants result could look like if both were done in the same procedure:
View attachment 4883176

Obviously this dude had good upper facial width in his before and got jaw implants, however most of the forum is peanut skulled and would require both upper and lower facial surgeries to achieve this type of look. Look at how amazing that result is though.

Assuming the highest is charged for both implants, the transformation above would cost approximately $45,000 for Midface Mask Implants + Jaw/Chin implants. That is less than the cost of Lefort II/III by themselves and less/around the same price of a Bimax depending on who you're getting it from.

It also costs significantly less than the cost of getting implants for any of the areas mentioned by themselves/together.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So as with any procedure, what are the risks?

Compared to a lot of other procedures/implants, the risk/botch rate is remarkably low, the best mitigation strategy is simply to choose an experienced surgeon.


The main risks are Nerve Damage (specifically to the Infraorbital nerve,) Infection, Asymmetry, Lower Eyelid Malposition, and Step-Off Edges. All of these are dealt with and mitigated during/before the procedure.

Nerve Damage (Permanent: <1%; Temporary: 15%): The infraorbital nerve sits right in the middle of the implant’s territory. It provides sensation to your mid-cheek, side of the nose, and upper lip.
Risk Mitigation: During the 3D design phase, the implant is engineered with a notched tunnel or foramen that fits perfectly over the nerve. This allows the implant to sit flush against the bone without putting any pressure on the nerve itself.

Infection (1% - 4%): Large implants provide a significant surface area for bacteria to colonize. If an infection takes hold on the surface of the implant, the body’s immune system often cannot reach it, potentially requiring the removal of the device.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use strict aseptic techniques, often soaking the implant in a triple-antibiotic solution before insertion. Many masks are made of PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) or Porous Polyethylene (Medpor); Medpor allows for tissue ingrowth, which helps the body’s immune cells integrate into the material to fight bacteria.

Asymmetry (Near 0%): Because the mask is a single, rigid piece, if it is off by even a millimeter, the entire midface can look crooked.
Risk Mitigation: Surgeons use 3D-printed surgical guides and titanium screw fixation. The screws lock the implant into the exact coordinates predetermined by the CT scan, ensuring it cannot shift during the healing process. With a custom mask, the chance of skeletal asymmetry is near 0% because the implant is 3D-printed to fit your bone perfectly. Most "asymmetry" reported with masks is actually just pre-existing soft tissue (skin/fat) differences that the implant didn't fully mask.

Step-Off Edges (3%>): If the implant is too thick or the edges are blunt, you might be able to feel (or see) where the plastic ends and your bone begins.
Risk Mitigation: The implant edges are digitally feathered to a thickness of nearly zero. This ensures a seamless transition so that the implant feels like a natural extension of the skull.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

No clue if this'll get pinned or not but I guess that just depends on how the thread does. Who cares honestly, as long as someone gets some help from it.

This is a very good procedure, and it deserves more visibility. This is a functional, aesthetic replacement for Bimax/Lefort/BSSO, one of the most popular if not the most popular aesthetic procedures for facial aesthetics ever. This is a gem. Hardmaxx TODAY.

Your perfect life awaits you, your hot wife, your high paying job, the admiration from everyone you meet no matter what, your future kid's respect for you. All of this is a few surgeries away, will you dedicate your life this one time? Or will you let the opportunity pass and some other man do it and live your dream life while you rot away?

NO FAILO IS UNFIXABLE. ITS NEVER OVER. NEVER LDAR.

THE WORLD IS YOURS.

tony montana film GIF



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im shocked this was pinned to the general lm board. shit is built on a complete and blatant lie preying on niggas who just learned about surgery and are in that phase where they overestimate tf out of whats possible. JFL at dismissing everything cuz of ur join date this guy isnt real.
deleted my comment on his profile asking why he made this disingenuous thread but keeps all the dickriders who're glazing over basic observations as to why you shouldnt rope
I genuinely don't see how this would work

the implant would have to be so stupidly accurate to achieve a normal result, let alone a good one

highly doubt these results are from an implant
It’s not very feasible. Implant show will likely be obvious with these. Especially when making facial expressions, u might start looking very odd
You're a fucking idiot you thought Scolo had midfacial implants when it was FME orthodontic expansion - join date doesn't mean shit if you're a misinformed dumbass

Post in thread 'People who think infra orbital implants is not worth it' https://looksmax.org/threads/people...mplants-is-not-worth-it.1617424/post-23048316
histy dont fall for the misinformation
1. infraorbital implants will be always better as on option for orbital support imo

2. Its not the functionality / practicality that is the main issue it is the cosmetic end goal, big midface implants for example are often an issue because of this, this even includes inframalar

i think that both may be good but on average (most people will not be preformed on by eppley lets be real) seperate implants will be much better for aesthetics as the tapering and seperation across the midface will be better

i do think maybe with a good surgeon and a good design it may work but i much prefer seperate implants

for 80 percent of cases its just not realistic

additional projection will provide a more youthful augmented look but he wasnt arguing that he was arguing that it may cause midfacial sagging

join date is arbitrary to if a person is informed or not


in conclusion if you get this done from eppley youll probably be fine but its still a better option to get seperated implants as it is more convenient (not inc the costs which will be more)

@Firstname.Lastname whatd u think?
 
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histy dont fall for the misinformation
im not into surgerys but i see how much effort was put into this thread and its good.
 
im not into surgerys but i see how much effort was put into this thread and its good.
its still misinformation

even if youre friends with the guy its misleading and bad promotion of a shit implant
 
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its still misinformation

even if youre friends with the guy its misleading and bad promotion of a shit implant
What’s the misinformation exactly ?
 
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What’s the misinformation exactly ?
maybe not so much as misinformation as misleading

hes portraying this as an insanely good implant choice that revives your midface when in actuality it isnt
 
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maybe not so much as misinformation as misleading

hes portraying this as an insanely good implant choice that revives your midface when in actuality it isnt
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