The MAJORITY of the world is going to hell (again), including most "Christians"

[Deleted member 13626]

Being human does not mean we are helpless. Human beings were created in the image of God and we were given his divine spark. The human being is much older and much more mature than it usually thinks it is.

I mean helpless as in spiritual stuff, not in this realm where we can interact with it

Deception is everywhere but you don't get nailed to a cross for telling lies. You get nailed to a cross because you were onto something.

So what do u suggest?

Both gnosticism and christianity are onto something? Should we combine the two? Is it true what the other guy said that gnosticism is an occult religion associated with freemasonry?

 

[NuclearBrainReturns]

So what do u suggest?

Both gnosticism and christianity are onto something? Should we combine the two? Is it true what the other guy said that gnosticism is an occult religion associated with freemasonry?

Gnosticism is not a 'religion' as such because it has no official tenets. It is extremely broad and you can essentially include anything within it and call it Gnosticism. I could believe in a flying spaghetti monster whom I need to pray to by jerking off into a bowl of bolognaise sauce and it would be considered 'Gnostic'.

It's why I have some issues with calling myself by that label though I wouldn't say my views are not Gnostic in nature if someone pointed it out. Combining Christianity and Gnosticism isn't really a thing because I can call myself a Gnostic Christian if I believe Jesus Christ still is the son of God, just as any other Christian does, even if my other religious views are wildly different to the established Churches.

Now I'm not meaning to sound 'lecturey' in my response, just FYI. It might come across as that but I need to say that in the beginning so my actual response makes more sense

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Gnosticism is only an occult religion if a specific sect practices the occult. It is only associated with Freemasonry/Luciferianism if that specific sect views Lucifer as some underdog who is being unfairly treated by an evil God. I personally believe that Lucifer is the 'god' of this world because it's clear he owns this world. But Lucifer is NOT God and he is not being unfairly treated.

Lucifer tricked God's creation into eating from the tree which I view as Lucifer showing Adam and Eve how to achieve orgasm. It is why they were cast out of Eden because achieving an orgasm is the moment when a person changes from pure to unpure. The moment someone achieves an orgasm for the first time, they will always want to feel that again and again and therefore, their decisionmaking will become corrupted and based on sexual pleasure seeking rather than holiness. They become enslaved by the physical pleasures and therefore, enslaved by material reality. When tied to the fact that material reality is inherently corruptible, you begin to see that any evildoing sin in this world stems from this very act of needing to achieve orgasm.

Example:
All pride and boastfulness is carried out to become popular, becoming popular gives you access (on paper) to more women or men. Having access to more women or men gives you opportunities to be sexually immoral and achieve orgasm.


Christ was most certainly onto something there is no doubt about it. I personally believe he was the son of God and therefore God incarnate so of course he was onto something. But even if you do not think he was the son of God and merely a prophet, that still doesn't mean he was not in direct communication with the divine and that The Way of Christ is wrong. Reducing the passions is the most fundamental step in becoming more spirit and less matter. Every major religion acknowledges this with fasting, abstinence and prayer/contemplation. It seems to be a fundamental hardline rule of being able to wade through the swamp of life and grasp at God in the dark. Regardless of religious sect or denomination.

 

[Deleted member 13626]

Gnosticism is not a 'religion' as such because it has no official tenets. It is extremely broad and you can essentially include anything within it and call it Gnosticism. I could believe in a flying spaghetti monster whom I need to pray to by jerking off into a bowl of bolognaise sauce and it would be considered 'Gnostic'.

Jfl

It's why I have some issues with calling myself by that label though I wouldn't say my views are not Gnostic in nature if someone pointed it out. Combining Christianity and Gnosticism isn't really a thing because I can call myself a Gnostic Christian if I believe Jesus Christ still is the son of God, just as any other Christian does, even if my other religious views are wildly different to the established Churches.

Yea same, it's too broad of a word

Now I'm not meaning to sound 'lecturey' in my response, just FYI. It might come across as that but I need to say that in the beginning so my actual response makes more sense

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Gnosticism is only an occult religion if a specific sect practices the occult. It is only associated with Freemasonry/Luciferianism if that specific sect views Lucifer as some underdog who is being unfairly treated by an evil God. I personally believe that Lucifer is the 'god' of this world because it's clear he owns this world. But Lucifer is NOT God and he is not being unfairly treated.

Well i don't practice the occult shit or stuff like that

Lucifer tricked God's creation into eating from the tree which I view as Lucifer showing Adam and Eve how to achieve orgasm. It is why they were cast out of Eden because achieving an orgasm is the moment when a person changes from pure to unpure. The moment someone achieves an orgasm for the first time, they will always want to feel that again and again and therefore, their decisionmaking will become corrupted and based on sexual pleasure seeking rather than holiness. They become enslaved by the physical pleasures and therefore, enslaved by material reality. When tied to the fact that material reality is inherently corruptible, you begin to see that any evildoing sin in this world stems from this very act of needing to achieve orgasm.

Example:
All pride and boastfulness is carried out to become popular, becoming popular gives you access (on paper) to more women or men. Having access to more women or men gives you opportunities to be sexually immoral and achieve orgasm.


Christ was most certainly onto something there is no doubt about it. I personally believe he was the son of God and therefore God incarnate so of course he was onto something. But even if you do not think he was the son of God and merely a prophet, that still doesn't mean he was not in direct communication with the divine and that The Way of Christ is wrong. Reducing the passions is the most fundamental step in becoming more spirit and less matter. Every major religion acknowledges this with fasting, abstinence and prayer/contemplation. It seems to be a fundamental hardline rule of being able to wade through the swamp of life and grasp at God in the dark. Regardless of religious sect or denomination.

@Brazitard, what do u think?

I'm trying to find a balance, brazitard said stuff like astral projection etc is off-limits for us and other stuff like that. It's conflicting stuff but some views of gnostics and christians do connect and make sense

 

[NuclearBrainReturns]

Jfl

Yea same, it's too broad of a word

Well i don't practice the occult shit or stuff like that

I'm happy to hear you don't practice the occult.

@Brazitard, what do u think?

I'm trying to find a balance, brazitard said stuff like astral projection etc is off-limits for us and other stuff like that. It's conflicting stuff but some views of gnostics and christians do connect and make sense

Astral projection, ego death and all of that is New Age beliefs which is the False Light of Lucifer. 'Ye shall be as gods' all over again.

Discussions like this are so very important for this very reason. Theology is a very very complicated subject and discussing it is the only way that we may guide eachother in the right direction. A direction that is narrow, mind you. Though do not put your faith in men, only in Christ.

 

[NuclearBrainReturns]

@Umbra Check out this youtube channel if you have time:


Very cool channel, I believe the guy is greek orthodox (another very interesting and respectable religious view which makes a lot of sense).

 

[Deleted member 13626]

I'm happy to hear you don't practice the occult.

Occult like talking to spirits etc

Astral projection, ego death and all of that is New Age beliefs which is the False Light of Lucifer. 'Ye shall be as gods' all over again.

I think it's been agreed that the new age stuff bs is stuff like karma, manifestation and earth being a school instead of a prison etc. Basically being ignorant

Discussions like this are so very important for this very reason. Theology is a very very complicated subject and discussing it is the only way that we may guide eachother in the right direction. A direction that is narrow, mind you. Though do not put your faith in men, only in Christ.

I heard astral projection is good so you can control your body better after you die to make sure to not go into the tunnel of light etc

I wanna make sure no one deceives me and I'm fully in control

@Umbra Check out this youtube channel if you have time:


Very cool channel, I believe the guy is greek orthodox (another very interesting and respectable religious view which makes a lot of sense).

Does he talk about this stuff or is it simply a christian channel? I was orthodox Christian before i found out about prison planet and gnosis

 

[NuclearBrainReturns]

Occult like talking to spirits etc

I think it's been agreed that the new age stuff bs is stuff like karma, manifestation and earth being a school instead of a prison etc. Basically being ignorant

Yeah. That stuff is false light

I heard astral projection is good so you can control your body better after you die to make sure to not go into the tunnel of light etc

I know the theory you speak about however I have some reservations about whether the tunnel of light is really a thing/it happens for everyone. I genuinely think now that if you don't make a genuine attempt at salvation then you will just be sent back in an instant. Though I don't know for sure as I haven't had an experience like an NDE and I hope to never have one.

I wanna make sure no one deceives me and I'm fully in control

Does he talk about this stuff or is it simply a christian channel? I was orthodox Christian before i found out about prison planet and gnosis

He seems pretty based actually, there are a few videos on the antichrist/new world order. He understands that this world is a fallen place and in his videos its a big recurring topic.

Interesting that you were orthodox. Were you greek or russian orthodox? And were you born into it or were you a convert?
What made you turn away from orthodoxy?

 

[Deleted member 13626]

Yeah. That stuff is false light

Ye false hope and copium

I know the theory you speak about however I have some reservations about whether the tunnel of light is really a thing/it happens for everyone. I genuinely think now that if you don't make a genuine attempt at salvation then you will just be sent back in an instant. Though I don't know for sure as I haven't had an experience like an NDE and I hope to never have one.

It doesn't happen for eveyone, you can go deeper into the rabbit hole and research. Some see hell, some see heaven, some are told to come back to learn a lesson etc. The places they see and the loved ones they see are all impersonations and distractions used by the archons/devils

He seems pretty based actually, there are a few videos on the antichrist/new world order. He understands that this world is a fallen place and in his videos its a big recurring topic.

Gnostics etc talk about these two, what are the elites and why do they do this? Maybe they are simply npcs without a soul, maybe they know the afterlife (i wouldn't be surprised) and not worry about sinning etc.

Astral projection and remote viewing were proven to be real from what I've heard, apparently the elites and the cia know about these and there are leaked documents but i didn't read them bcs i was too lazy jfl

Interesting that you were orthodox. Were you greek or russian orthodox? And were you born into it or were you a convert?
What made you turn away from orthodoxy?

I'm from Romania so idk, maybe russian orthodox bcs I'm closer to Russia? I was born into a orthodox family

Simply researching etc until i found about gnosticism and took many redpills on nwo etc. But i don't trash Christianity, especially orthodox. Better than soy atheist degenerate society

Also stuff that made me question life. Happens to all of us when we go trough hardships. And i refuse to believe I'm not trapped in this shithole and the owner of earth is the devil and he wants to trap us again after we die. Aka reincarnation

Demiurge=satan
Archon=demon/devil

IMO