The mewing mistake which nullifies progress or even makes faces worse

[pabloo]

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First off, I believe that mewing does prevent you from becoming ugly after time and can improve a face. normally to a minor degree but sometimes major. Anyone who doubts that needs to go back and look at the science.

Now, onto Mewing.

The premise of mewing is that the force of the tongue on the palate combined with the teeth lightly touching each other leads to palatal expansion and facial upswing, while promoting forward growth. I want to focus on the contact of the teeth, as I believe it is essential. The aspect of mewing that actually leads to change. John and Mike have both emphasised that the teeth should be gently touching each other. However, with mewing being in its infancy, there is a great deal of trial and error involved. Both of them are intentionally ambiguous when it comes to details on the contact of the teeth, and its because they don't exactly know how the action promotes upswing and forward growth, and Mike has mentioned this before. They just know that the correlation is there. Sometimes they will say to keep the molars in contact, sometimes all of the teeth. This, I believe, is a big mistake on their part.

Keeping the molars together leads to a CW rotation of the maxilla. Resulting in a longer, sunk midface and a recessed mandible. This is unattractive.
Keeping all of the teeth together leads to no rotation of the maxilla. This leads to barely any progress made; a complete waste of time.

Instead, I believe that the premolars (teeth that are more towards the front) should be in light contact, with minimal or no contact between the molars. This is especially for those who have an overbite, as it will help to reverse it. I don't mean keep the incisors together. You can do it if you want, but I think that it is detrimental. They aren't designed for chewing, and therefore cannot handle the sustained amount of pressure. You will damage them. Instead, you should keep your premolars in a light contact. For those with an overbite, moving your lower jaw forward so that the top and bottom incisors are side-to-side is important. Like so:

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Keeping the premolars together leads to a CCW rotation of the maxilla. Resulting in a shorter, compact midface that appears more forward grown and a more prominent mandible and chin.

Here is the skull, with the maxilla highlighted in green:

View attachment 1525814

These are the forces acting upon the maxilla when the molars are gently touching:

View attachment 1525846
Upwards force on the back only. There will be a CW rotation and this is definitely what you don't want.

These are the forces acting upon the maxilla when all of the teeth are in contact:

View attachment 1525849
Upwards force on the back but also the front. No rotation. Minimal change. Waste of time.

These are the forces acting upon the maxilla when the premolars are in contact:

View attachment 1525854
Upwards force on the front only. There will be a CCW rotation and this is definitely what you want. It's clear as day. However, since it is not right on the front edge the change will take slightly slower than if you were to keep the molars in contact.

I think that this explain why mewing doesn't work for a large amount of people. They either put pressure on the molars alone or all of the teeth, leading to no results or even a worse face. I believe that those who achieve progress primarily keep contact with the premolars or don't keep the teeth in contact at all, which is okay but so much slower.




That's it for now. Leave your thoughts below.

Idk who to tag lmao, someone do it for me

inb4 dnr, your own mother read my text last night and came over. Be more like your mother.

In conclusión what do i do

 

[pslSpider]

sexy pfp btw

Yes (black L)

ALL teeth must be touching ALL the time
you must be mewing ALL the time
the lips must be together ALL the time

good statement my mom is very goodlooking and she has all her teeth touching do you think posture helps at all?

 

[They_are_all_whores]

First off, I believe that mewing does prevent you from becoming ugly after time and can improve a face. normally to a minor degree but sometimes major. Anyone who doubts that needs to go back and look at the science.

Now, onto Mewing.

The premise of mewing is that the force of the tongue on the palate combined with the teeth lightly touching each other leads to palatal expansion and facial upswing, while promoting forward growth. I want to focus on the contact of the teeth, as I believe it is essential. The aspect of mewing that actually leads to change. John and Mike have both emphasised that the teeth should be gently touching each other. However, with mewing being in its infancy, there is a great deal of trial and error involved. Both of them are intentionally ambiguous when it comes to details on the contact of the teeth, and its because they don't exactly know how the action promotes upswing and forward growth, and Mike has mentioned this before. They just know that the correlation is there. Sometimes they will say to keep the molars in contact, sometimes all of the teeth. This, I believe, is a big mistake on their part.

Keeping the molars together leads to a CW rotation of the maxilla. Resulting in a longer, sunk midface and a recessed mandible. This is unattractive.
Keeping all of the teeth together leads to no rotation of the maxilla. This leads to barely any progress made; a complete waste of time.

Instead, I believe that the premolars (teeth that are more towards the front) should be in light contact, with minimal or no contact between the molars. This is especially for those who have an overbite, as it will help to reverse it. I don't mean keep the incisors together. You can do it if you want, but I think that it is detrimental. They aren't designed for chewing, and therefore cannot handle the sustained amount of pressure. You will damage them. Instead, you should keep your premolars in a light contact. For those with an overbite, moving your lower jaw forward so that the top and bottom incisors are side-to-side is important. Like so:

View attachment 1525837

Keeping the premolars together leads to a CCW rotation of the maxilla. Resulting in a shorter, compact midface that appears more forward grown and a more prominent mandible and chin.

Here is the skull, with the maxilla highlighted in green:

View attachment 1525814

These are the forces acting upon the maxilla when the molars are gently touching:

View attachment 1525846
Upwards force on the back only. There will be a CW rotation and this is definitely what you don't want.

These are the forces acting upon the maxilla when all of the teeth are in contact:

View attachment 1525849
Upwards force on the back but also the front. No rotation. Minimal change. Waste of time.

These are the forces acting upon the maxilla when the premolars are in contact:

View attachment 1525854
Upwards force on the front only. There will be a CCW rotation and this is definitely what you want. It's clear as day. However, since it is not right on the front edge the change will take slightly slower than if you were to keep the molars in contact.

I think that this explain why mewing doesn't work for a large amount of people. They either put pressure on the molars alone or all of the teeth, leading to no results or even a worse face. I believe that those who achieve progress primarily keep contact with the premolars or don't keep the teeth in contact at all, which is okay but so much slower.




That's it for now. Leave your thoughts below.

Idk who to tag lmao, someone do it for me

inb4 dnr, your own mother read my text last night and came over. Be more like your mother.

Dnr

 

[übermog]

Yes (black L)

good statement my mom is very goodlooking and she has all her teeth touching do you think posture helps at all?

yes posture is huge also, especially head and neck posture

 

[A M I R 💫]

First off, I believe that mewing does prevent you from becoming ugly after time and can improve a face. normally to a minor degree but sometimes major. Anyone who doubts that needs to go back and look at the science.

Now, onto Mewing.

The premise of mewing is that the force of the tongue on the palate combined with the teeth lightly touching each other leads to palatal expansion and facial upswing, while promoting forward growth. I want to focus on the contact of the teeth, as I believe it is essential. The aspect of mewing that actually leads to change. John and Mike have both emphasised that the teeth should be gently touching each other. However, with mewing being in its infancy, there is a great deal of trial and error involved. Both of them are intentionally ambiguous when it comes to details on the contact of the teeth, and its because they don't exactly know how the action promotes upswing and forward growth, and Mike has mentioned this before. They just know that the correlation is there. Sometimes they will say to keep the molars in contact, sometimes all of the teeth. This, I believe, is a big mistake on their part.

Keeping the molars together leads to a CW rotation of the maxilla. Resulting in a longer, sunk midface and a recessed mandible. This is unattractive.
Keeping all of the teeth together leads to no rotation of the maxilla. This leads to barely any progress made; a complete waste of time.

Instead, I believe that the premolars (teeth that are more towards the front) should be in light contact, with minimal or no contact between the molars. This is especially for those who have an overbite, as it will help to reverse it. I don't mean keep the incisors together. You can do it if you want, but I think that it is detrimental. They aren't designed for chewing, and therefore cannot handle the sustained amount of pressure. You will damage them. Instead, you should keep your premolars in a light contact. For those with an overbite, moving your lower jaw forward so that the top and bottom incisors are side-to-side is important. Like so:

View attachment 1525837

Keeping the premolars together leads to a CCW rotation of the maxilla. Resulting in a shorter, compact midface that appears more forward grown and a more prominent mandible and chin.

Here is the skull, with the maxilla highlighted in green:

View attachment 1525814

These are the forces acting upon the maxilla when the molars are gently touching:

View attachment 1525846
Upwards force on the back only. There will be a CW rotation and this is definitely what you don't want.

These are the forces acting upon the maxilla when all of the teeth are in contact:

View attachment 1525849
Upwards force on the back but also the front. No rotation. Minimal change. Waste of time.

These are the forces acting upon the maxilla when the premolars are in contact:

View attachment 1525854
Upwards force on the front only. There will be a CCW rotation and this is definitely what you want. It's clear as day. However, since it is not right on the front edge the change will take slightly slower than if you were to keep the molars in contact.

I think that this explain why mewing doesn't work for a large amount of people. They either put pressure on the molars alone or all of the teeth, leading to no results or even a worse face. I believe that those who achieve progress primarily keep contact with the premolars or don't keep the teeth in contact at all, which is okay but so much slower.




That's it for now. Leave your thoughts below.

Idk who to tag lmao, someone do it for me

inb4 dnr, your own mother read my text last night and came over. Be more like your mother.

i like what you said, although as someone who kinda had a double chin for mewing, from personal experience i would recommend just positioning your front bottom teeth along your top teach with barely any pressure or contact, just positioning.

The reason behind this is that it wont block out forward growht and limit it as pressure is a limiting factor, if you are just positioned and your tongue is very very very lightly pressed against your top mouth, the year long effects are good pre 25yo.

 

[pslSpider]

yes posture is huge also, especially head and neck posture

what do you do for your head and neck posture?

 

[pslSpider]

yes posture is huge also, especially head and neck posture

You can dm me if you don’t want to share it publicly

 

[übermog]

You can dm me if you don’t want to share it publicly

i cant find the source about posture, if ill find it ill tell u

 

[pslSpider]

i cant find the source about posture, if ill find it ill tell u

Alright thank you bro bc that’s is the key to having a defined neck and ascending that’s what I’m currently studying too so I will tell you too