The modern dating market didn't collapse but rather the illusion of average guys having a chance just died

[RoadToPosterBoy]

I don't agree.

You don't have to maxx anything as an average looking guy. You just gotta know when, where, and how to pull women in person. I always encourage people on here to volunteer. Sounds gay but it works.

The workplace is hands down the easiest place/best setting in the world to find a fuck buddy or a girlfriend. I've never volunteered but I've changed jobs so frequently in my adult life that I've never had to go that route. Though if I were a young 20 something who had a job that I didn't want to hop from, and I wanted a girlfriend, I would volunteer at different places on the weekends or whatever until I got what I wanted.

You don't want to date girls who are online like that anyways.

Pure micro-market exposure theory
Relying on spatial proximity via volunteering or job-hopping to bypass digital baseline standards is just artificial environment manipulation
The underlying hypergamictic selection criteria remain constant regardless of the physical setting

 

[alexlol]

also, 1/100 Million means you are way more likely to be remembered, amount to something great, have more land, meet less outsiders and make the world seem mystical. I mean back then you could lay in the grass with your friend, look at the clear, stary sky, free from light pollution and ask why he thinks they shine so bright, and both of you could bring up theorys, but you wouldn‘t know whos right, the sky remains a mystery, and so does most of your life, as it should. The great enlightenment which is just a symptom of declining civilisation was a huge mistake,

women can't quantify the different between 1m and 1b jfl

 

[LowInhibNoSMV]

women can't quantify the different between 1m and 1b jfl

omfg the audacity to jfl while misunderstanding the post

 

[migra]

women can't quantify the different between 1m and 1b jfl

they dont know what 5'7 is and what 6ft is jfl

 

[alexlol]

omfg the audacity to jfl while misunderstanding the post

I'm not talking about the original post retard. You made a stateman in regards to population. I'm saying population doesn't matter in regards to hypergamy because the ratio is 50/50 lol

 

[migra]

I don't agree.

You don't have to maxx anything as an average looking guy. You just gotta know when, where, and how to pull women in person. I always encourage people on here to volunteer. Sounds gay but it works.

The workplace is hands down the easiest place/best setting in the world to find a fuck buddy or a girlfriend. I've never volunteered but I've changed jobs so frequently in my adult life that I've never had to go that route. Though if I were a young 20 something who had a job that I didn't want to hop from, and I wanted a girlfriend, I would volunteer at different places on the weekends or whatever until I got what I wanted.

You don't want to date girls who are online like that anyways.

true my niga, i agree, ts girls who have phone is a red flag jfl

 

[LowInhibNoSMV]

I'm not talking about the original post retard. You made a stateman in regards to population. I'm saying population doesn't matter in regards to hypergamy because the ratio is 50/50 lol

Man its in connection with globalisation and phones. women will consistently be fey the top .1% of those 8 billion instead of just seeing their local 100%

 

[migra]

I'm not talking about the original post retard. You made a stateman in regards to population. I'm saying population doesn't matter in regards to hypergamy because the ratio is 50/50 lol

population alters hypergamy niga

 

[alexlol]

Man its i connection with globalisation and phones. women will consistently be fey the top .1% of those 8 billion instead of just seeing their local 100%

Oh I 100% agree that globalization is the end to local dating.

 

[migra]

that's why just date like girls after u ascend their dating tactic is brootal

 

[RoadToPosterBoy]

Man its in connection with globalisation and phones. women will consistently be fey the top .1% of those 8 billion instead of just seeing their local 100%

@LowInhibNoSMV is describing network effect theory. Raw demographic ratios mean nothing when digital hyper-connectivity scales access from a localized cohort to an 8-billion global supply pool completely distorting traditional selection baselines

 

[alexlol]

population alters hypergamy niga

In what sense? Hypergamy is just bottom 80% going after 10%, which can happen no matter the population count.

 

[LowInhibNoSMV]

In what sense? Hypergamy is just bottom 80% going after 10%, which can happen no matter the population count.

Man its in connection with globalisation and phones. women will consistently be fey the top .1% of those 8 billion instead of just seeing their local 100%

 

[RoadToPosterBoy]

In what sense? Hypergamy is just bottom 80% going after 10%, which can happen no matter the population count.

Percentage curves don't account for extreme variance at scale 10% of a local village is 20 average guys and 10% of a hyper-connected planet is hundreds of millions of top-tier profiles. The absolute standard shift is what alters hypergamic selection

 

[migra]

Oh I 100% agree that globalization is the end to local dating.

yeah boyo u aint competing with some random high schooler now everyone is competing with jacob elordi,timothee and some other high smv chads

 

[RoadToPosterBoy]

He's basically arguing that infinite scale has zero impact on distribution metrics. Pure statistical denial jfl

 

[migra]

yeah ts was what i saying

Percentage curves don't account for extreme variance at scale 10% of a local village is 20 average guys and 10% of a hyper-connected planet is hundreds of millions of top-tier profiles. The absolute standard shift is what alters hypergamic selection

 

[migra]

He's basically arguing that infinite scale has zero impact on distribution metrics. Pure statistical denial jfl

brootal for him

 

[alexlol]

Percentage curves don't account for extreme variance at scale 10% of a local village is 20 average guys and 10% of a hyper-connected planet is hundreds of millions of top-tier profiles. The absolute standard shift is what alters hypergamic selection

Very true, But from double digits to millions is insane. I was more so talking about the different of 100m to 8b.

 

[RoadToPosterBoy]

Very true, But from double digits to millions is insane. I was more so talking about the different of 100m to 8b.

Fair that you see the scale mechanics now but even jumping from 100M to 8B is an 80x expansion in absolute talent pool jfl going from a top 10% pool of 5 million guys to 400 million guys globally fundamentally changes algorithmic curation tech can aggregate extreme 99.9th percentile outliers in a way that simply wasn't possible at smaller population scales tbf

 

[alexlol]

Fair that you see the scale mechanics now but even jumping from 100M to 8B is an 80x expansion in absolute talent pool jfl going from a top 10% pool of 5 million guys to 400 million guys globally fundamentally changes algorithmic curation tech can aggregate extreme 99.9th percentile outliers in a way that simply wasn't possible at smaller population scales tbf

yeah no saying hypergamy and population have no correlation was actually retarded on my part, I stand corrected. I thought of hypergamy as bottom 80% wants top 10% but I wasn't thinking of the social implications of a bigger dating pool.

 

[migra]

In what sense? Hypergamy is just bottom 80% going after 10%, which can happen no matter the population count.

niga hypergamy is always wanting better mate for lifetime, if it is in a viillage of 100 girl will not stop at 20% of top guys until reaching top 1 in her pov, which is kinda impossible coz these foids can use foid logic and think a sub5 is a better mate depending on enviroment she lives in, which alters her 15% tiny brain from a moid jjfl, so no one is every escaping hypergamy unless u nigas got some really high iq foid

 

[RoadToPosterBoy]

yeah no saying hypergamy and population have no correlation was actually retarded on my part, I stand corrected. I thought of hypergamy as bottom 80% wants top 10% but I wasn't thinking of the social implications of a bigger dating pool.

All good bro mirin for taking the correction most guys would have doubled down into pure denial

 

[migra]

niga hypergamy is always wanting better mate for lifetime, if it is in a viillage of 100 girl will not stop at 20% of top guys until reaching top 1 in her pov, which is kinda impossible coz these foids can use foid logic and think a sub5 is a better mate depending on enviroment she lives in, which alters her 15% tiny brain from a moid jjfl, so no one is every escaping hypergamy unless u nigas got some really high iq foid

also most hypergamous foid are lowiq ones tbh

 

[alexlol]

niga hypergamy is always wanting better mate for lifetime, if it is in a viillage of 100 girl will not stop at 20%

In what sense? Hypergamy is just bottom 80% going after 10%, which can happen no matter the population count.

we were literally saying the same thing.

 

[migra]

also most hypergamous foid are lowiq ones tbh

better date a submissive high iq foid or dont date

 

[alexlol]

better date a submissive high iq foid or dont date

180iq low inhib move is just dating dudes.

 

[RoadToPosterBoy]

also most hypergamous foid are lowiq ones tbh

True jfl their decision-making is 100% emotional and instinct-driven regardless of IQ ffs High IQ just gives them more sophisticated excuses for the exact same hypergamous selection

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Pure micro-market expsure theory
Relying on spatial proximity via volunteering or job-hopping to bypass digital baseline standards is just artificial environment manipulation
The underlying hypergamictic selection criteria remain constant regardless of the physical setting

It's no theory because it's always worked for me. I'm ugly, broke at face value, old, have zero social media and no friends. Women have always been extremely attracted to me nevertheless. And I'm only talking about hot girls because I don't even count the ones that aren't.

Women are extremely easy to pull. They're actually the ones who gotta look good, not us. If you know how to play with tension and can subtly/skillfully reveal intriguing or contradictory things about yourself it's a wrap. That's how they're hard wired.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

true my niga, i agree, ts girls who have phone is a red flag jfl

Mine has one. She's never used social media though.

 

[RoadToPosterBoy]

It's no theory because it's always worked for me. I'm ugly, broke at face value, old, have zero social media and no friends. Women have always been extremely attracted to me nevertheless. And I'm only talking about hot girls because I don't even count the ones that aren't.

Women are extremely easy to pull. They're actually the ones who gotta look good, not us. If you know how to play with tension and can subtly/skillfully reveal intriguing or contradictory things about yourself it's a wrap. That's how they're hard wired.

Respect for sharing your perspective my nigga good to see that real-life interactions and social dynamics are still working out for you

 

[othala.kkk]

ropefuel

 

[Absurdist]

Imagine going back to the middle ages or the bronze age

no thank you bro, im good. we underestimate how good we have it now.

 

[ICXCLuvr]

People keep arguing whether the dating market is 'ruined' or if guys are just lazy but the truth is way simpler and brutal:

Social media and dating apps permanently removed geographic and status limits for women just as everyone knows.
An average girl with a smartphone now has access to the top tier of guys in a 50km radius, which could be as good as as bad for us. But why would any woman settle for an average fucking 5/10 guy when she has infinite validation and high-tier options sitting in her DMs 24/7?

Thinking 'just hit the gym and be nice' is enough in 2026 is pure cope sold by self-help grifters. If you aren't actively maxxing out your looks, status, and money to hit the top percentile, you literally don't fucking exist to women. Without aggressive maxing you're invisible (Should be knowledge by now)

Here is my actual hot take that nobody talks about:

It’s not just about hypergamy or high-tier guys pump-and-dumping but rather it’s an Attention Economy Paradox.

Dating apps didn't just give women options they turned modern dating into a high-dopamine casino for them. Think about it this way: A girl's brain receives so much passive, low-effort micro-validation daily from anyone I mean likes, story replies, DMs that her baseline sensitivity for romantic payoff is completely fried

Real-life dating with a normal guy requires emotional investment, patience, and dealing with real human flaws and none of which can compete with the friction-free, instantaneous dopamine hit of an app feed like tinder e.g.
Average guys aren't losing to 'better men' but rather they are losing to the phone screen itself. Women aren't replacing average guys with top-tier partners —> they are replacing traditional relationships with endless digital validation loops because real life feels too boring by comparison

Is there actually any realistic path left for an average guy to compete against instant digital dopamine or is the only option left to completely drop out of the game?



@migra
@Lefty Rankin
@VerlyChud
@RJ_ascends

Greys are stupid. Average guys have chances that’s why average guys reproduce dumbass

 

[LowInhibNoSMV]

no thank you bro, im good. we underestimate how good we have it now.

I understand where you’re coming from. A lot of stuff about the middle ages is just propaganda though. and also you’re looking at it and just a physical sense and not a spiritual one, its a matter of information and perspective.

 

[RoadToPosterBoy]

Greys are stupid. Average guys have chances that’s why average guys reproduce dumbass

Bro is using 40-year-olds who got married in 2008 as evidence for the 2026 dating market jfl Pointing at macro reproduction data without accounting for age brackets and timing is standard Iqlet cope

 

[ICXCLuvr]

Pointing at macro reproduction data without accounting for age brackets and timing is standard Iqlet cope

Average guys today still reproduce. This must be an ethnic cope

 

[RoadToPosterBoy]

Average guys today still reproduce. This must be an ethnic cope

When the math doesn't align with your narrative just throw out random buzzwords jfl. Zero counter-arguments against the statistical age shift just pure deflection stupid nigger

 

[Absurdist]

I understand where you’re coming from. A lot of stuff about the middle ages is just propaganda though. and also you’re looking at it and just a physical sense and not a spiritual one, its a matter of information and perspective.

Idk. I mean living in a time where you could die from a simple cut does not sound appealing. Constant threat of famine, hard physical labor from dawn to dusk, untreatable diseases, lack of hygiene, harsh punishments etc.

Maybe spiritually you could say. There was a deeper sense of purpose, and alot more community bonds between people. There was bigger connection to nature and stuff. But yeah I still wouldn't like to live in those times even as royalty.

 

[ICXCLuvr]

When the math doesn't align with your narrative just throw out random buzzwords jfl. Zero counter-arguments against the statistical age shift just pure deflection stupid nigger

Show me the math then. Show proof the average guy is struggling to reproduce and my entire account gets deleted after I livestream myself covered in oil and feathers running across the freeway

 

[RoadToPosterBoy]

Show me the math then. Show proof the average guy is struggling to reproduce and my entire account gets deleted after I livestream myself covered in oil and feathers running across the freeway

search up male fertility and birth rates under 25 over the last decade yourself I’m not your research assistant iqlet

 

[LowInhibNoSMV]

Idk. I mean living in a time where you could die from a simple cut does not sound appealing. Constant threat of famine, hard physical labor from dawn to dusk, untreatable diseases, lack of hygiene, harsh punishments etc.

Maybe spiritually you could say. There was a deeper sense of purpose, and alot more community bonds between people. There was bigger connection to nature and stuff. But yeah I still wouldn't like to live in those times even as royalty.

Yes, the diseases are very real, but only really prevalent in major cities, while the early Bronze migration period did not have major cities. Also, the hard physical labor is correct, yes, but did you know that medieval farmers actually had one third of the entire year off? Like they just had vacation, which is way more than today's workers do.

 

[ICXCLuvr]

search up male fertility and birth rates under 25 over the last decade yourself I’m not your research assistant iqlet

Ahh so u can’t provide the evidence yourself. That’s what I fucking thought. Just another dumbass confidently rambling.

But why specifically under 25? Most people don’t have kids under 25. You are one stupid GrAY

 

[RoadToPosterBoy]

Ahh so u can’t provide the evidence yourself. That’s what I fucking thought. Just another dumbass confidently rambling.

But why specifically under 25? Most people don’t have kids under 25. You are one stupid GrAY

Thanks for literally proving my point nigger asking why we isolate young age brackets when discussing MODERN dating trends is peak low IQ Keep larping I'm out

 

[ICXCLuvr]

Thanks for literally proving my point nigger asking why we isolate young age brackets when discussing MODERN dating trends is peak low IQ Keep larping I'm out

hmm I wonder why the birth rates for people UNDER 25 are low.

Idk about what shithole you live in but here in America most people don’t have children at an age that young. Stupid ass kid knew he couldn’t provide evidence

 

[Absurdist]

Yes, the diseases are very real, but only really prevalent in major cities, while the early Bronze migration period did not have major cities. Also, the hard physical labor is correct, yes, but did you know that medieval farmers actually had one third of the entire year off? Like they just had vacation, which is way more than today's workers do.

Damn, I didnt know that.

Honestly im going to need to read more on medieval ages before forming more opinions. Any reccomendations on books, articles, vids?

 

[LowInhibNoSMV]

Damn, I didnt know that.

Honestly im going to need to read more on medieval ages before forming more opinions. Any reccomendations on books, articles, vids?

Cool! One of the greatest books i‘ve read is „The Crisis of the Modern World“ by René Guénon. Very interesting. Also, just in general even watching youtube videos about the Bronze Age Migration Period will make you long for it .
But yeah, read the book, it‘s not that long and a wonderful read.

 

[RandomSwan]

Average guys today still reproduce. This must be an ethnic cope

birth rates are collapsing all over the world even africans are having this lol

 

[ICXCLuvr]

birth rates are collapsing all over the world even africans are having this lol

Not because of inceldom. Don’t “lol” me or you get blocked.

 

[HighIQSoidFlayer]

People keep arguing whether the dating market is 'ruined' or if guys are just lazy but the truth is way simpler and brutal:

Social media and dating apps permanently removed geographic and status limits for women just as everyone knows.
An average girl with a smartphone now has access to the top tier of guys in a 50km radius, which could be as good as as bad for us. But why would any woman settle for an average fucking 5/10 guy when she has infinite validation and high-tier options sitting in her DMs 24/7?

Thinking 'just hit the gym and be nice' is enough in 2026 is pure cope sold by self-help grifters. If you aren't actively maxxing out your looks, status, and money to hit the top percentile, you literally don't fucking exist to women. Without aggressive maxing you're invisible (Should be knowledge by now)

Here is my actual hot take that nobody talks about:

It’s not just about hypergamy or high-tier guys pump-and-dumping but rather it’s an Attention Economy Paradox.

Dating apps didn't just give women options they turned modern dating into a high-dopamine casino for them. Think about it this way: A girl's brain receives so much passive, low-effort micro-validation daily from anyone I mean likes, story replies, DMs that her baseline sensitivity for romantic payoff is completely fried

Real-life dating with a normal guy requires emotional investment, patience, and dealing with real human flaws and none of which can compete with the friction-free, instantaneous dopamine hit of an app feed like tinder e.g.
Average guys aren't losing to 'better men' but rather they are losing to the phone screen itself. Women aren't replacing average guys with top-tier partners —> they are replacing traditional relationships with endless digital validation loops because real life feels too boring by comparison

Is there actually any realistic path left for an average guy to compete against instant digital dopamine or is the only option left to completely drop out of the game?



@migra
@Lefty Rankin
@VerlyChud
@RJ_ascends

The only way an the average guy has a chance is if a woman is uniquely self aware about what u said and knows that if they don't find someone whilst young it will become harder as their looks fade (extremely unlikely) or if they are sick of being treated as a piece of meat by guys out of their league (more likely but still improbable unless they are old). Any other way I don't think women in this age will even consider someone who match up to the societally normalised standard of tall, rich, good looking and good personality. It's very sad, but it's a motivation to improve not just in looks but in everything.