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Knowing this fact makes me understand why Hitler thought he had some chances of survival even when Berlin was surrounded

It is just tremendous, 20km away from the capitol. Stalin was on the east of Russia if i'm not mistaken, on the other hand Germany was attacked from the West by the allies and from the East by the Soviets

The biggest mistake of the war judging by my criteria was Japan attacking USA, some say the americans were provoking Japan and viceversa, they say that oil had a lot to do with it too. Oil is no joke, it has affected probably more lives than drugs for example.
Germany helping Italy on everything is looked too as an error and of course probably the most famous one, "Germany wasn't prepared for the Russian winter"
 
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are you 12? I went through this phase too
 
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The US was starving Japan through an economic embargo in the hopes of provoking Japan so they could go to war. Doing same thing with Iran now.

 
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the being political and historical larping is uncool phase
Aaaah yeah, the 15 year old phase of "I'm psycologically superior, based on my own feelings i can judge everybody's feelings, i'm not a sheep, i'm different than the rest"

That phase can be good for coping until you get to see the real world
 
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Just declare war on the URSS while the UK and potentially the US is still at your western front theory.

Genious move ngl.
 
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Aaaah yeah, the 15 year old phase of "I'm psycologically superior, based on my own feelings i can judge everybody's feelings, i'm not a sheep, i'm different than the rest"

That phase can be good for coping until you get to see the real world
tbh i think most 15yo's are still stuck in the Ben Shapiro phase. the frontrunners might have even arrived at the commie doomer phase, but the independent phase is mostly reserved for late teens/young adults
 
are you 12? I went through this phase too
I have been in this history interest phase since a very young age because of my family's stories and involvement ngl
 
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I have been in this history interest phase since a very young age because of my family's stories and involvement ngl
Some grandparent on the war maybe?
 
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many family members from both my dad and mom, many of which also died (they were in the red army)
Seems like you heard great stories during your childhood

Share some of them with us one day
 
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Just declare war on the URSS while the UK and potentially the US is still at your western front theory.

Genious move ngl.
Do you know anything about WWII?

The Soviet Union was planning to invade the West, to steamroll Europe while they were under a Great Depression

Its not Germany's fault the Jews using their media influence helped get every country to dogpile Germany
 
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Knowing this fact makes me understand why Hitler thought he had some chances of survival even when Berlin was surrounded

It is just tremendous, 20km away from the capitol. Stalin was on the east of Russia if i'm not mistaken, on the other hand Germany was attacked from the West by the allies and from the East by the Soviets

The biggest mistake of the war judging by my criteria was Japan attacking USA, some say the americans were provoking Japan and viceversa, they say that oil had a lot to do with it too. Oil is no joke, it has affected probably more lives than drugs for example.
Germany helping Italy on everything is looked too as an error and of course probably the most famous one, "Germany wasn't prepared for the Russian winter"

None of this matters btw

If America had stayed out of the War and didnt supply the Soviets then Germany would have won

Germany was not a big country, and they were fighting too many enemies at once

America, France, Great Britain, and Russia all fighting Germany because the Jews told them to, now look how at the state of the world

Germany didnt lose WWII, the entire Non-Jewish world lost WWII
 
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Do you know anything about WWII?

The Soviet Union was planning to invade the West, to steamroll Europe while they were under a Great Depression

Its not Germany's fault the Jews using their media influence helped get every country to dogpile Germany
This sounds more like the German plan lol
Stalin was "taking care" of domestic "issues" and genociding and killing his own people, he never expected to be even prepared to a war before 1943-1944
 
Do you know anything about WWII?

The Soviet Union was planning to invade the West, to steamroll Europe while they were under a Great Depression

Its not Germany's fault the Jews using their media influence helped get every country to dogpile Germany
They should have focused on the URSS in the first place then.

No excuses, Hitler was a shitty strategist.
 
This sounds more like the German plan lol
Stalin was "taking care" of domestic "issues" and genociding and killing his own people, he never expected to be even prepared to a war before 1943-1944
I know more about WWII than anybody on this site

Yes Stalin was planning on invading the West


Also Communism by nature was a Gloabl ideology, they were NOT just genociding Russians but other Eastern European countries as well

The Ukraine was genocided by the Soviets in the Holodomor in the 30's

Then when the Soviets invaded Poland with Germany, they committed Genocide on the Poles in the Katyn Forest Massacre
 
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Do you know anything about WWII?

The Soviet Union was planning to invade the West, to steamroll Europe while they were under a Great Depression

Its not Germany's fault the Jews using their media influence helped get every country to dogpile Germany
I'm not a student of it but i like to learn about it and about WW1

That is not something i'm going to get into because i don't have neither the knowledge neither the refutations of both sides but the other day we talked about that theory of the USSR having some serious numbers on the frontier. But again, several explanations could be gived
 
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I know more about WWII than anybody on this site

Yes Stalin was planning on invading the West


Also Communism by nature was a Gloabl ideology, they were NOT just genociding Russians but other Eastern European countries as well

The Ukraine was genocided by the Soviets in the Holodomor in the 30's

Then when the Soviets invaded Poland with Germany, they committed Genocide on the Poles in the Katyn Forest Massacre
holomodor was a myth, the kulaks burned their own grain and refused to communicate, not only that, the famine affected all of the USSR and had a geological rather than manufactured origin. literally their own fault
 
I know more about WWII than anybody on this site

Yes Stalin was planning on invading the West


Also Communism by nature was a Gloabl ideology, they were NOT just genociding Russians but other Eastern European countries as well

The Ukraine was genocided by the Soviets in the Holodomor in the 30's

Then when the Soviets invaded Poland with Germany, they committed Genocide on the Poles in the Katyn Forest Massacre
shit source and even your own source talks about Germany, which he planned to invade in a few years or if germany was successful with sealion, stalin wanted to expand his influence in the east (which he did), no steamroll the west

and no you don't know shit, you are just a retarded wehraboo with an extremely strong bias
 
holomodor was a myth, the kulaks burned their own grain and refused to communicate, not only that, the famine affected all of the USSR and had a geological rather than manufactured origin. literally their own fault
Thats complete bullshit

The Holodomor has been recognized as a genocide by 16 countries, and the Ukraine carried out by the Soviet goverment

Imagine believing the Communist side of the story, Communist hate independent workers and farmers of the country side and made sure to murder those first in Russia

shit source and even your own source talks about Germany, which he planned to invade in a few years or if germany was successful with sealion, stalin wanted to expand his influence in the east (which he did), no steamroll the west

and no you don't know shit, you are just a retarded wehraboo with an extremely strong bias

Communism is a Global Ideology and Stalin was indeed planning on invading the West, he was not yet fully prepared for war when Hitler used his pre-emptive strike

If Hitler had focused on fighting the East, the Soviet Union would have sat back and allowed the Great Britain and France to duke it out with Germany then perform a full sweep invasion
 
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Thats complete bullshit

The Holodomor has been recognized as a genocide by 16 countries, and the Ukraine carried out by the Soviet goverment

Imagine believing the Communist side of the story, Communist hate independent workers and farmers of the country side and made sure to murder those first in Russia



Communism is a Global Ideology and Stalin was indeed planning on invading the West, he was not yet fully prepared for war when Hitler used his pre-emptive strike

If Hitler had focused on fighting the East, the Soviet Union would have sat back and allowed the Great Britain and France to duke it out with Germany then perform a full sweep invasion
Stalin's communism (or perhaps, socialism) was called "socialsim in one state", he wasn't as aggressive as tronsky in this regard of spreading it (even though, he still did), and like I said before, yes he did plan to invade germany eventually or if sealion came, but he never wanted to steamroll Europe before the nazis came, all hitler did is to give stalin a vaccum which he filled
 
Thats complete bullshit

The Holodomor has been recognized as a genocide by 16 countries, and the Ukraine carried out by the Soviet goverment

Imagine believing the Communist side of the story, Communist hate independent workers and farmers of the country side and made sure to murder those first in Russia



Communism is a Global Ideology and Stalin was indeed planning on invading the West, he was not yet fully prepared for war when Hitler used his pre-emptive strike

If Hitler had focused on fighting the East, the Soviet Union would have sat back and allowed the Great Britain and France to duke it out with Germany then perform a full sweep invasion
little do you know jfl, imagine believing the nazi's side of the story...


i eagerly await your excuses for not reading this wall of text, go ahead and save face. i dont expect you to want to change your mind, but part of me hopes that you'd want to be put right if you were unknowing spreading nazi propaganda myths...
 
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Stalin's communism (or perhaps, socialism) was called "socialsim in one state", he wasn't as aggressive as tronsky in this regard of spreading it (even though, he still did), and like I said before, yes he did plan to invade germany eventually or if sealion came, but he never wanted to steamroll Europe before the nazis came, all hitler did is to give stalin a vaccum which he filled
Nonsense, Communists from the Soviet Union were already in Germany before Hitler even came to power


In fact the Communists had taken over the Goverment for a few days before being overthrown, in the year 1919, before the military captured and killed the Communist leaders ( who just so happen to be Jewish ), this was during the Spartacist uprising


Antifa? Where is their origins? Germany 1920'-30s trying to spread Communism

Communists gave Germany trouble all the way to 1933, after that Hitler really cracked down on the Communists

Stalin came to power in 1922 as a Seceretary General and in 1924 he overtook Lenin's position as Director, so the Communists were not sitting around doing nothing but minding their own business in Russia, they were constantly infilatrating other countries in that time period


 
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Nonsense, Communists from the Soviet Union were already in Germany before Hitler even came to power


In fact the Communists had taken over the Goverment for a few days before being overthrown, in the year 1919, before the military captured and killed the Communist leaders ( who just so happen to be Jewish ), this was during the Spartacist uprising


Antifa? Where is their origins? Germany 1920'-30s trying to spread Communism

Communists gave Germany trouble all the way to 1933, after that Hitler really cracked down on the Communists

Stalin came to power in 1922, so the Communists were not sitting around doing nothing but minding their own business in Russia, they were constantly infilatrating other countries in that time period




You seem to skip everything I type and just ramble and ramble, you have so many vacuums in your thoughts
 
You seem to skip everything I type and just ramble and ramble, you have so many vacuums in your thoughts
I read what you typed, Stalin was a " Socialism in One Country " kind of guy

I was arguing agaisnt that because Communists were inside of Germany vying for power all the way to 1933, well after Stalin came to full power in 1927
 
I read what you typed, Stalin was a " Socialism in One Country " kind of guy

I was arguing agaisnt that because Communists were inside of Germany vying for power all the way to 1933, well after Stalin came to full power in 1927
Communists being in Germany is nowhere near related to what I typed before, those communists weren't affliated with the Russians ones and not funded by them, only inspired
 
Communists being in Germany is nowhere near related to what I typed before, those communists weren't affliated with the Russians ones and not funded by them, only inspired


Stalin'ss speech he wanted to take over Europe, after Germany goes to war with the East, but it seemed Stalin needed more time to prep up his own military infrastructure

Once again. I'd like to remind you that Communism is a Global Ideology since its conception, from Marx to Lenin to Stalin

Communists have never stopped expanding power
 
Thread of people who been taught history vs people who learned themselves. Big difference
 
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holomodor was a myth, the kulaks burned their own grain and refused to communicate, not only that, the famine affected all of the USSR and had a geological rather than manufactured origin. literally their own fault

The Soviet Union committed maasive amounts of genocide on Russians from 1917-1940's. In Ukraine they had the Vinitiza massacre, and in Poland they had the Katyn Forest massacre

Look at this giant list of genocide committed by the Soviet Union, and then tell me why the Holodomor is the only one you single out as a myth

 
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Germany already lost ww1, they basically fought again on two fronts. It wasn´t won the first time let alone the seccond. The best ally Germans ever had were us Turks, the rest of them are foolish especially Mussolini´s Italy jfl. Japan was succesfull in China but they didn´t shoot one bullet at the soviets. Every German of the military high command was against a conventional war. The only reason it happened in ww1 was Austria meddling in Bosnia that was nominally a province of the Ottman Empire. The war holded on so long because we joined. Russia couldn´t be supplied, Brittain&France were occupied in their colonies that was mostly Muslim. The stupidest mistake of Germany was sending Lenin to Russia. Yes they created the Soviets they fought against themselves.

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The Soviet Union committed maasive amounts of genocide on Russians from 1917-1940's. In Ukraine they had the Vinitiza massacre, and in Poland they had the Katyn Forest massacre
ok... not disputing any of that.
Look at this giant list of genocide committed by the Soviet Union, and then tell me why the Holodomor is the only one you single out as a myth
probably cause that was your original premise. do you think I'm a tankie lmao?
 
Just declare war on the URSS while the UK and potentially the US is still at your western front theory.

Genious move ngl.
You are retard hitler didnt have another choice he explains why he declared war in a 20 minute long secret speech
 

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