The normalisation of cosmetic surgery is sad

[optimisticzoomer]

The most common one now being hair transplants. The narrative around hair transplants is now that they’re supposedly “empowering”. This couldn’t be further from the truth. Nowadays men are more insecure than ever, and the bs hair transplant industry doesn’t help this. Now any guy who has any sort of minor hair loss gets told “go to turkey bro”, when the sex symbols of the 20th century often had some hair loss. It’s called being a man. Footballer Matty Cash just got a hair transplant, and this is him recently before his transplant:

Guys with practically full heads of hair are getting transplants, which will not replicate natural density and will not bring any improvement (not that any is needed anyway), but instead destroy native hairs and (at best) achieve the same density as before the transplant

Same goes for any surgery. Hair transplants just seem to have the least stigma. But things like rhinoplasties are pretty normalised. The whole “looksmaxxing” trend definitely didn’t help.

Getting surgery now seems to be portrayed as some sort of choice over your own body, when the opposite is in fact true. No one would get these surgeries if it weren’t for others. They lose authority over their own body and decide to conform to what they think they should look like to superficially please others, rather than care about what, and who, really matters. If you’re getting cosmetic surgery then I’m sorry, but you’re a slave. You can be like “cope bro, looking good to people who really don’t actually care about me at all is important bro!” but that’s more of a problem on your end. Maybe have a bit of self respect and understanding of who is worth your time
@Aën Fаrhis

 

[Alexg_lover]

DNR

 

[optimisticzoomer]

DNR

2025cel

 

[Alexg_lover]

2025cel

Irrelevant to anything. You don't need org to looksmaxx and you don't exactly seem to be looksmaxxing either lol. Cosmetic surgery is based as fuck

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Cosmetic surgery is based as fuck

If you’re a loser slave who lives to please others

 

[cooldudewithasword]

why

 

[Alexg_lover]

If you’re a loser slave who lives to please others

Looks improve your dating life, making it easier to find a wife and have kids, which should ultimately be the goal in life. It also correlates with health, income, happiness, life expectancy, number of friends and negatively correlates with stress.... It's literally the highest ROI out of any form of self-improvement. Why are you even on a looksmaxxing forum if you don't believe in the blackpill and looksmaxxing LOL? Maybe switch to one where everyone seeks to ldar

 

[piec]

bros dut stopped working again

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Looks improve your dating life, making it easier to find a wife and have kids, which should ultimately be the goal in life. It also correlates with health, income, happiness, life expectancy, number of friends and negatively correlates with stress.... It's literally the highest ROI out of any form of self-improvement. Why are you even on a looksmaxxing forum if you don't believe in the blackpill and looksmaxxing LOL? Maybe switch to one where everyone seeks to ldar

You just gave the most basic newly-“blackpilled” answer ever
The point is, if all of that is only achievable after you have conformed to standards and cut up your face, it’s not really valuable to any extent

 

[optimisticzoomer]

bros dut stopped working again

Taking medication is different to surgery
It’s like getting liposuction instead of preventing becoming a fat fuck

 

[Amuzant]

Taking medication is different to surgery
It’s like getting liposuction instead of preventing becoming a fat fuck

lol i have jazz playing in the background whilst im scrolling org and it lined up perfectly with ur avi.

Nah i agree entirely with you, but hair transplants are lowk meta

 

[Alexg_lover]

You just gave the most basic newly-“blackpilled” answer ever
The point is, if all of that is only achievable after you have conformed to standards and cut up your face, it’s not really valuable to any extent

I've been blackpilled since I was a child and I've also known about the blackpill community since like 2022 but it's quite retarded to make an account merely for self-imrovement. You say "conform to standards" as if conformity is inherently a bad thing. I wouldn't even call it conformity, since what's considered aesthetically pleasing is largely rooted in evolutionary biology. Sure, some aspects of attractiveness are influenced by cultural trends, but that's generally not what cosmetic surgery addresses (or should address)

it’s not really valuable to any extent

That makes zero sense? It still yields tangible improvements to your life.....

 

[foidfondler]

sounds like cope anything after NW2 warrants an IMMEDIATE plane ticket to Turkey

 

[optimisticzoomer]

That makes zero sense? It still yields tangible improvements to your life.....

So does paying for “friends” to accompany you to places. Doesn’t mean it’s fulfilling in any sense

You’re basically buying people with surgery

 

[optimisticzoomer]

sounds like cope anything after NW2 warrants an IMMEDIATE plane ticket to Turkey

Joined: Jun 11, 2026
I’m nw1

 

[foidfondler]

Joined: Jun 11, 2026
I’m nw1

jd don't matter + I wasn't talking abt you I just meant in general shit im almost there myself if it weren't for fin I would be

 

[optimisticzoomer]

jd don't matter + I wasn't talking abt you I just meant in general shit im almost there myself if it weren't for fin I would be

I wouldn’t get one after serenitymaxxing, and certainly wouldn’t get one for NW2, and that’s not just because transplants in nw1 region look shit

 

[Alexg_lover]

So does paying for “friends” to accompany you to places. Doesn’t mean it’s fulfilling in any sense

You’re basically buying people with surgery

What a strawman. The halo effect just amplifies your underlying personality; it doesn't mean you're "buying" people. Also, that's just one of the benefits I mentioned, and it's a pretty minuscule one compared to the others

 

[foidfondler]

I wouldn’t get one after serenitymaxxing, and certainly wouldn’t get one for NW2, and that’s not just because transplants in nw1 region look shit

ye that's the thing they lwk do look shit luckily I have curly hair so I will probably just keep frauding NW1 by growing my hair out

 

[optimisticzoomer]

What a strawman. The halo effect just amplifies your underlying personality

The only personality being amplified is your insecurity
How pea-brained do you have to be to think surgery will buy you meaningful connections because it “amplifies your personality”? Don’t tell me you actually believe looks has anything to do with friendship

I feel sorry for you if you actually care about people who wouldn’t care about the real you, and only want to be around you (for their ego) after surgery

 

[arlo_420]

ye that's the thing they lwk do look shit luckily I have curly hair so I will probably just keep frauding NW1 by growing my hair out

You should get a BBL bhai (big booty latina)

 

[Alexg_lover]

The only personality being amplified is your insecurity
How pea-brained do you have to be to think surgery will buy you meaningful connections because it “amplifies your personality”? Don’t tell me you actually believe looks has anything to do with friendship

I feel sorry for you if you actually care about people who wouldn’t care about the real you, and only want to be around you (for their ego) after surgery

Dude I literally said that's the least important aspect. I listed a bunch of potential benefits, and you chose to fixate on that one because you can't refute the overall argument

 

[foidfondler]

You should get a BBL bhai (big booty latina)

im looking for one bhai although personally my main type is tall white foids

 

[arlo_420]

im looking for one bhai although personally my main type is tall white foids

"Tall white Chads"

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Dude I literally said that's the least important aspect. I listed a bunch of potential benefits, and you chose to fixate on that one because you can't refute the overall argument

You expect me to take any arguments about getting a “wife” seriously? And you disguise this utter bluepill under the pretence of “blackpill”?

No self respecting man gets married. And if you’d actually want to “date” someone who wouldn’t be with the real you, again I’m sorry

“Correlates with health”, “life expectancy”… what? Surgery? Jfl. We’re talking about cosmetic surgery here, not heart surgery. Also, the health argument for looks is utter cope

Happiness? Again, utter cope. Happiness doesn’t come from changing your face to please others. Happiness comes from within first and foremost

Stress? Wtf are you even talking about now?

And money is also cope. The rich people you see are not good looking. Even the managers etc are not good looking.

I didn’t respond because I didn’t care and wanted to save you some of the embarrassment because, quite frankly, your entire post was garbage

 

[foidfondler]

"Tall white Chads"

Ah, yes, my bad! I almost forgot

 

[Alexg_lover]

And money is also cope. The rich people you see are not good looking. Even the managers etc are not good looking.

I'm not gonna continue this conversation as it seems to lead nowhere, but read these studies:

Sierminska, E. S. (2023). Does it pay to be beautiful?. IZA World of Labor.

Watkins, L. M., & Johnston, L. (2000). Screening job applicants: The impact of physical attractiveness and application quality. International Journal of selection and assessment, 8(2), 76-84.