The Only Debloating Guide You Will Need

[jeff1234]

Jfl. But good thread you could added a DNP there

RS

 

[Ezie]

Should I take pure HCTZ? Most HCTZ brands in my country come with other antihypertensive agents like Losartan or Amiloride.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Should I take pure HCTZ? Most HCTZ brands in my country come with other antihypertensive agents like Losartan or Amiloride.

Pure is the most effective, losartan will also affect ur potassium which is a bad thing, since you want to reduce the sodium not potassium, and Amiloride no idea what that is.

U can find it on indiamart

 

[20/04/2008]

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THE ONLY DEBLOATING GUIDE YOU NEED

___


Introduction
I’ve seen countless threads filled with terrible debloating advice lately— tips that demand you to make unsustainable dietary choices.
This guide exists to cut through the bullshit so you don’t waste time on nonsense like “cut all carbs/sugar” or “overload potassium.”

The thing is - Debloating isn’t about starving yourself or micromanaging every gram of sodium. It’s about working smarter, not harder.

Even if you’re a looksmaxxing "veteran", this thread has EVERYTHING you need. No bullshit—just actionable protocols that let you eat freely while staying lean.

___


Why Most Methods Are a Waste of Time
Most advice you’ll hear boils down to:
- “Don't eat salt/sodium at all!”
- “Eat 10 bananas for potassium!”
- “Cut all carbs/sugar!”
- “Drink 4 liters of water daily!”
- “Starve yourself 24 hours before an event!”

Does this work? Maybe.
Is it sustainable/easy? Hell no.

Why stress over every single shit you eat when you can eat freely and STILL look lean the next day?

Spoiler

Unless you ate 3 pizzas..
but even then, you’ll look normal.

___


What You Need
Debloating doesn’t require a fucking monk’s diet. ITS SIMPLE:
1. HCTZ (Hydrochlorothiazide) → Targets sodium-driven fluid retention without nuking electrolytes.
2. Lasix (Furosemide) → rapes your kidneys but good for events.
3. Eplerenone → For cycle/testosterone bloat (blocks aldosterone (not testosterone)).
4. Sauna/Hot Bath → Drains lymphatic fluid trapped in your face.
5. Ice → Tightens skin.

Most important: HCTZ + Sauna/Bath and face icing. Lasix and Eplerenone are optimal

___


How to Use Each Tool

HCTZ – The Debloat KING
- What it does: Blocks sodium reabsorption in kidney tubules, flushing water from subcutaneous tissues (face, hands, legs). Unlike harsh diuretics, it spares potassium and magnesium.
- Why it’s better: Safe for long-term use (50mg every 3 days). No rebound bloat if cycled properly.
- Dose: 50mg every 3 days for maintenance. Take in the Morning to avoid Nighttime peeing.

Lasix – If Must Use
- What it does: Inhibits sodium/potassium/chloride reabsorption → flushes ALL electrolytes. Will RAPE your kidneys.
- When to use: Pre-cold approaching, clubbing, or going somewhere important
- Dose: 80mg once (once a week MAX). Take electrolytes (Potassium,Magnesium) after to avoid feeling like shit

Eplerenone – Only On A Cycle
- What it does: Blocks aldosterone (not testosterone) → increases sodium/water excretion without anti-androgenic sides (no gyno, libido loss).
- Dose: 100-200mg daily (if on cycle).

Sauna/Bath – Bloat Reset
- What it does: Heat dilates blood vessels → flushes lymphatic fluid (face puffiness).
- How: 10-15min sauna OR 45-60min hot bath 1-2 times a week.

**Face Icing – Tightens Your Skin**
- What it does: Vasoconstriction reduces blood flow → tighter skin + rosy cheeks (healthy glow).
- How: Ice in upward lymphatic drainage motions (2-5min daily).


___


Optimal Protocols

Maintain a Debloated Look
- HCTZ: 50mg every 3 days → reduces sodium.
- Sauna/Bath: Once or twice weekly → resets lymphatic buildup.
- Face Icing: Daily AM → reduces AM puffiness.
- Eplerenone: 100-200mg daily (if on cycle) → counters testosterone’s aldosterone spike.

Sample Weekly Schedule:
- Sun/Wed: HCTZ + Sauna
- Daily: Face ice + electrolytes
- Test Users: Eplerenone daily

“I AM BLOATED, NEED TO GET DEBLOATED TOMORROW”
1. Morning: HCTZ 50mg → starts sodium flush.
2. Evening: Sauna (15min) or Bath (60min) → drains face fluid.
3. Next Morning: Lasix 80mg (if desperate) → nukes remaining water.
- Add Face Icing → tighten skin.
- Potassium + Magnesium → Prevents crazy fatigue.

Warning: Lasix might also give you disgusting eye area by draining every last drop of water out of ur eyelids and eyebrows. I would just stick to HCTZ, If you must use Lasix, don't appear outside after 6 hours, that's when your eye area becomes REALLY BAD.

___


Final Note
This works for keeping you debloated by default, unless you’re eating 4 pizzas every day.

___

Woke up chiseled today

Last night
My cycle was : 500 ipam 3x per day 54 iu of mantus insulin 100 mg of Dbol
And Diet : 300 g of protein 600 g of Carbs 300 g of Fats
I also took 100 mg of Spironolactone

Next day i woke up more Chiseled
Hmm i wonder what does that mean

 

[lestoa]

good thread

 

[lestoa]

Woke up chiseled today

Last night
My cycle was : 500 ipam 3x per day 54 iu of mantus insulin 100 mg of Dbol
And Diet : 300 g of protein 600 g of Carbs 300 g of Fats
I also took 100 mg of Spironolactone

Next day i woke up more Chiseled
Hmm i wonder what does that mean

600g carbs is insane, how much cal do you eat in a day ?

 

[20/04/2008]

600g carbs is insane, how much cal do you eat in a day ?

6400 cal (just last night)

I eat ~4500 cal ish on average

 

[lestoa]

6400 cal (just last night)

I eat ~4500 cal ish on average

how can you be this hungry, 500cal+ is already too much for me

 

[20/04/2008]

how can you be this hungry, 500cal+ is already too much for me

Im very active throughout the day
Im 190 lbs at 6ft2 at like 12% bf

 

[IdontwannabeLTN]

___


THE ONLY DEBLOATING GUIDE YOU NEED

___


Introduction
I’ve seen countless threads filled with terrible debloating advice lately— tips that demand you to make unsustainable dietary choices.
This guide exists to cut through the bullshit so you don’t waste time on nonsense like “cut all carbs/sugar” or “overload potassium.”

The thing is - Debloating isn’t about starving yourself or micromanaging every gram of sodium. It’s about working smarter, not harder.

Even if you’re a looksmaxxing "veteran", this thread has EVERYTHING you need. No bullshit—just actionable protocols that let you eat freely while staying lean.

___


Why Most Methods Are a Waste of Time
Most advice you’ll hear boils down to:
- “Don't eat salt/sodium at all!”
- “Eat 10 bananas for potassium!”
- “Cut all carbs/sugar!”
- “Drink 4 liters of water daily!”
- “Starve yourself 24 hours before an event!”

Does this work? Maybe.
Is it sustainable/easy? Hell no.

Why stress over every single shit you eat when you can eat freely and STILL look lean the next day?

Spoiler

Unless you ate 3 pizzas..
but even then, you’ll look normal.

___


What You Need
Debloating doesn’t require a fucking monk’s diet. ITS SIMPLE:
1. HCTZ (Hydrochlorothiazide) → Targets sodium-driven fluid retention without nuking electrolytes.
2. Lasix (Furosemide) → rapes your kidneys but good for events.
3. Eplerenone → For cycle/testosterone bloat (blocks aldosterone (not testosterone)).
4. Sauna/Hot Bath → Drains lymphatic fluid trapped in your face.
5. Ice → Tightens skin.

Most important: HCTZ + Sauna/Bath and face icing. Lasix and Eplerenone are optimal

___


How to Use Each Tool

HCTZ – The Debloat KING
- What it does: Blocks sodium reabsorption in kidney tubules, flushing water from subcutaneous tissues (face, hands, legs). Unlike harsh diuretics, it spares potassium and magnesium.
- Why it’s better: Safe for long-term use (50mg every 3 days). No rebound bloat if cycled properly.
- Dose: 50mg every 3 days for maintenance. Take in the Morning to avoid Nighttime peeing.

Lasix – If Must Use
- What it does: Inhibits sodium/potassium/chloride reabsorption → flushes ALL electrolytes. Will RAPE your kidneys.
- When to use: Pre-cold approaching, clubbing, or going somewhere important
- Dose: 80mg once (once a week MAX). Take electrolytes (Potassium,Magnesium) after to avoid feeling like shit

Eplerenone – Only On A Cycle
- What it does: Blocks aldosterone (not testosterone) → increases sodium/water excretion without anti-androgenic sides (no gyno, libido loss).
- Dose: 100-200mg daily (if on cycle).

Sauna/Bath – Bloat Reset
- What it does: Heat dilates blood vessels → flushes lymphatic fluid (face puffiness).
- How: 10-15min sauna OR 45-60min hot bath 1-2 times a week.

**Face Icing – Tightens Your Skin**
- What it does: Vasoconstriction reduces blood flow → tighter skin + rosy cheeks (healthy glow).
- How: Ice in upward lymphatic drainage motions (2-5min daily).


___


Optimal Protocols

Maintain a Debloated Look
- HCTZ: 50mg every 3 days → reduces sodium.
- Sauna/Bath: Once or twice weekly → resets lymphatic buildup.
- Face Icing: Daily AM → reduces AM puffiness.
- Eplerenone: 100-200mg daily (if on cycle) → counters testosterone’s aldosterone spike.

Sample Weekly Schedule:
- Sun/Wed: HCTZ + Sauna
- Daily: Face ice + electrolytes
- Test Users: Eplerenone daily

“I AM BLOATED, NEED TO GET DEBLOATED TOMORROW”
1. Morning: HCTZ 50mg → starts sodium flush.
2. Evening: Sauna (15min) or Bath (60min) → drains face fluid.
3. Next Morning: Lasix 80mg (if desperate) → nukes remaining water.
- Add Face Icing → tighten skin.
- Potassium + Magnesium → Prevents crazy fatigue.

Warning: Lasix might also give you disgusting eye area by draining every last drop of water out of ur eyelids and eyebrows. I would just stick to HCTZ, If you must use Lasix, don't appear outside after 6 hours, that's when your eye area becomes REALLY BAD.

___


Final Note
This works for keeping you debloated by default, unless you’re eating 4 pizzas every day.

___

isnt HCTZ are carcinogen, is it bad if taken pretty consistently?
they're in most food nowadays but nonetheless good to check how dangerous this one in particular is
where to buy HCTZ?

 

[Evgeniy291]

isnt HCTZ are carcinogen, is it bad if taken pretty consistently?
they're in most food nowadays but nonetheless good to check how dangerous this one in particular is
where to buy HCTZ?

HCTZ is low-risk for long-term as long as you don't exceed taking it 2-3 times a week, though it may slightly increase skin cancer risk just going outside can increase it.
Cancer is a meme anyways.

Do your own research on it but from what ive seen its safe

I bought it in a pharmacy they didnt ask for a recipe neither, if u don't live in slums of Russia you can order it from indiamart

 

[IdontwannabeLTN]

HCTZ is low-risk for long-term as long as you don't exceed taking it 2-3 times a week, though it may slightly increase skin cancer risk just going outside can increase it.
Cancer is a meme anyways.

Do your own research on it but from what ive seen its safe

I bought it in a pharmacy they didnt ask for a recipe neither, if u don't live in slums of Russia you can order it from indiamart

bc of where i am what its only available via prescription, anything else similar?

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

do you use eplerenone, im so bloatmaxxed from my current cycle ive been considering adding it

 

[They_are_all_whores]

___


THE ONLY DEBLOATING GUIDE YOU NEED

___


Introduction
I’ve seen countless threads filled with terrible debloating advice lately— tips that demand you to make unsustainable dietary choices.
This guide exists to cut through the bullshit so you don’t waste time on nonsense like “cut all carbs/sugar” or “overload potassium.”

The thing is - Debloating isn’t about starving yourself or micromanaging every gram of sodium. It’s about working smarter, not harder.

Even if you’re a looksmaxxing "veteran", this thread has EVERYTHING you need. No bullshit—just actionable protocols that let you eat freely while staying lean.

___


Why Most Methods Are a Waste of Time
Most advice you’ll hear boils down to:
- “Don't eat salt/sodium at all!”
- “Eat 10 bananas for potassium!”
- “Cut all carbs/sugar!”
- “Drink 4 liters of water daily!”
- “Starve yourself 24 hours before an event!”

Does this work? Maybe.
Is it sustainable/easy? Hell no.

Why stress over every single shit you eat when you can eat freely and STILL look lean the next day?

Spoiler

Unless you ate 3 pizzas..
but even then, you’ll look normal.

___


What You Need
Debloating doesn’t require a fucking monk’s diet. ITS SIMPLE:
1. HCTZ (Hydrochlorothiazide) → Targets sodium-driven fluid retention without nuking electrolytes.
2. Lasix (Furosemide) → rapes your kidneys but good for events.
3. Eplerenone → For cycle/testosterone bloat (blocks aldosterone (not testosterone)).
4. Sauna/Hot Bath → Drains lymphatic fluid trapped in your face.
5. Ice → Tightens skin.

Most important: HCTZ + Sauna/Bath and face icing. Lasix and Eplerenone are optimal

___


How to Use Each Tool

HCTZ – The Debloat KING
- What it does: Blocks sodium reabsorption in kidney tubules, flushing water from subcutaneous tissues (face, hands, legs). Unlike harsh diuretics, it spares potassium and magnesium.
- Why it’s better: Safe for long-term use (50mg every 3 days). No rebound bloat if cycled properly.
- Dose: 50mg every 3 days for maintenance. Take in the Morning to avoid Nighttime peeing.

Lasix – If Must Use
- What it does: Inhibits sodium/potassium/chloride reabsorption → flushes ALL electrolytes. Will RAPE your kidneys.
- When to use: Pre-cold approaching, clubbing, or going somewhere important
- Dose: 80mg once (once a week MAX). Take electrolytes (Potassium,Magnesium) after to avoid feeling like shit

Eplerenone – Only On A Cycle
- What it does: Blocks aldosterone (not testosterone) → increases sodium/water excretion without anti-androgenic sides (no gyno, libido loss).
- Dose: 100-200mg daily (if on cycle).

Sauna/Bath – Bloat Reset
- What it does: Heat dilates blood vessels → flushes lymphatic fluid (face puffiness).
- How: 10-15min sauna OR 45-60min hot bath 1-2 times a week.

**Face Icing – Tightens Your Skin**
- What it does: Vasoconstriction reduces blood flow → tighter skin + rosy cheeks (healthy glow).
- How: Ice in upward lymphatic drainage motions (2-5min daily).


___


Optimal Protocols

Maintain a Debloated Look
- HCTZ: 50mg every 3 days → reduces sodium.
- Sauna/Bath: Once or twice weekly → resets lymphatic buildup.
- Face Icing: Daily AM → reduces AM puffiness.
- Eplerenone: 100-200mg daily (if on cycle) → counters testosterone’s aldosterone spike.

Sample Weekly Schedule:
- Sun/Wed: HCTZ + Sauna
- Daily: Face ice + electrolytes
- Test Users: Eplerenone daily

“I AM BLOATED, NEED TO GET DEBLOATED TOMORROW”
1. Morning: HCTZ 50mg → starts sodium flush.
2. Evening: Sauna (15min) or Bath (60min) → drains face fluid.
3. Next Morning: Lasix 80mg (if desperate) → nukes remaining water.
- Add Face Icing → tighten skin.
- Potassium + Magnesium → Prevents crazy fatigue.

Warning: Lasix might also give you disgusting eye area by draining every last drop of water out of ur eyelids and eyebrows. I would just stick to HCTZ, If you must use Lasix, don't appear outside after 6 hours, that's when your eye area becomes REALLY BAD.

___


Final Note
This works for keeping you debloated by default, unless you’re eating 4 pizzas every day.

___

Where do I get htctz

 

[Evgeniy291]

bc of where i am what its only available via prescription, anything else similar?

HCTZ is the only one that targets sodium iirc, you can try to buy and if they ask for prescription say u need it for grandma or smth, if it isn't USA or any other main country they'll probably sell

Can also try with small pharmacies that are probably illegal

Where do I get htctz

read above, I bought in a pharmacy they didn't ask for a recipe

do you use eplerenone, im so bloatmaxxed from my current cycle ive been considering adding it

Yes I do use 100mg ED

500mg test E 3rd week rn, helps a lot. Ive ran out of them few days ago and bought only yday, it made such a huge difference I got noticeably bloated without it

 

[They_are_all_whores]

HCTZ is the only one that targets sodium iirc, you can try to buy and if they ask for prescription say u need it for grandma or smth, if it isn't USA or any other main country they'll probably sell

Can also try with small pharmacies that are probably illegal

Too nt too social anxiety for this and I don't wanna end in trouble so maybe I Will try

I live in Egypt i am afraid someone contacts the police or smth jfl

Is it dangerous

 

[Evgeniy291]

Too nt too social anxiety for this and I don't wanna end in trouble so maybe I Will try

Bro don't try to buy prescription only drugs in pharmacy they will arrest you on spot trust me

I live in Egypt i am afraid someone contacts the police or smth jfl

LMFAO someone contacts police because you wanted to buy diuretics nice brain

They'll prob sell it Egypt is a shithole asw

 

[They_are_all_whores]

Bro don't try to buy prescription only drugs in pharmacy they will arrest you on spot trust me

LMFAO someone contacts police because you wanted to buy diuretics nice brain

They'll prob sell it Egypt is a shithole asw

So ofc I won't buy drugs what should I tell the pharmacy guy I need hctz of is there a form of it

Secondly should I say I need for my grandma that has what disease

So it is just a duertic and they will sell it like any regular over the counter pill?

 

[Evgeniy291]

So ofc I won't buy drugs what should I tell the pharmacy guy I need hctz of is there a form of it

Secondly should I say I need for my grandma that has what disease

So it is just a duertic and they will sell it like any regular over the counter pill?

Drugs = meds

Say hi I need hctz but say full name

Don't say anything else unless they ask

If they ask then say grandmother asked me to buy that

 

[They_are_all_whores]

Drugs = meds

Say you wanna buy hctz but say full name

Don't say anything else unless they ask

If they ask then say grandmother asked me to buy that

Too unnt for that but will try

So just say the long name

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Yes I do use 100mg ED

500mg test E 3rd week rn, helps a lot. Ive ran out of them few days ago and bought only yday, it made such a huge difference I got noticeably bloated without it

how has it affected your blood pressure? and did it effect any other blood markers

 

[Evgeniy291]

how has it affected your blood pressure? and did it effect any other blood markers

I actually didnt even check it

But I feel fine and take propranolol occasionally

 

[paterick.bateman]

___


THE ONLY DEBLOATING GUIDE YOU NEED

___


Introduction
I’ve seen countless threads filled with terrible debloating advice lately— tips that demand you to make unsustainable dietary choices.
This guide exists to cut through the bullshit so you don’t waste time on nonsense like “cut all carbs/sugar” or “overload potassium.”

The thing is - Debloating isn’t about starving yourself or micromanaging every gram of sodium. It’s about working smarter, not harder.

Even if you’re a looksmaxxing "veteran", this thread has EVERYTHING you need. No bullshit—just actionable protocols that let you eat freely while staying lean.

___


Why Most Methods Are a Waste of Time
Most advice you’ll hear boils down to:
- “Don't eat salt/sodium at all!”
- “Eat 10 bananas for potassium!”
- “Cut all carbs/sugar!”
- “Drink 4 liters of water daily!”
- “Starve yourself 24 hours before an event!”

Does this work? Maybe.
Is it sustainable/easy? Hell no.

Why stress over every single shit you eat when you can eat freely and STILL look lean the next day?

Spoiler

Unless you ate 3 pizzas..
but even then, you’ll look normal.

___


What You Need
Debloating doesn’t require a fucking monk’s diet. ITS SIMPLE:
1. HCTZ (Hydrochlorothiazide) → Targets sodium-driven fluid retention without nuking electrolytes.
2. Lasix (Furosemide) → rapes your kidneys but good for events.
3. Eplerenone → For cycle/testosterone bloat (blocks aldosterone (not testosterone)).
4. Sauna/Hot Bath → Drains lymphatic fluid trapped in your face.
5. Ice → Tightens skin.

Most important: HCTZ + Sauna/Bath and face icing. Lasix and Eplerenone are optimal

___


How to Use Each Tool

HCTZ – The Debloat KING
- What it does: Blocks sodium reabsorption in kidney tubules, flushing water from subcutaneous tissues (face, hands, legs). Unlike harsh diuretics, it spares potassium and magnesium.
- Why it’s better: Safe for long-term use (50mg every 3 days). No rebound bloat if cycled properly.
- Dose: 50mg every 3 days for maintenance. Take in the Morning to avoid Nighttime peeing.

Lasix – If Must Use
- What it does: Inhibits sodium/potassium/chloride reabsorption → flushes ALL electrolytes. Will RAPE your kidneys.
- When to use: Pre-cold approaching, clubbing, or going somewhere important
- Dose: 80mg once (once a week MAX). Take electrolytes (Potassium,Magnesium) after to avoid feeling like shit

Eplerenone – Only On A Cycle
- What it does: Blocks aldosterone (not testosterone) → increases sodium/water excretion without anti-androgenic sides (no gyno, libido loss).
- Dose: 100-200mg daily (if on cycle).

Sauna/Bath – Bloat Reset
- What it does: Heat dilates blood vessels → flushes lymphatic fluid (face puffiness).
- How: 10-15min sauna OR 45-60min hot bath 1-2 times a week.

**Face Icing – Tightens Your Skin**
- What it does: Vasoconstriction reduces blood flow → tighter skin + rosy cheeks (healthy glow).
- How: Ice in upward lymphatic drainage motions (2-5min daily).


___


Optimal Protocols

Maintain a Debloated Look
- HCTZ: 50mg every 3 days → reduces sodium.
- Sauna/Bath: Once or twice weekly → resets lymphatic buildup.
- Face Icing: Daily AM → reduces AM puffiness.
- Eplerenone: 100-200mg daily (if on cycle) → counters testosterone’s aldosterone spike.

Sample Weekly Schedule:
- Sun/Wed: HCTZ + Sauna
- Daily: Face ice + electrolytes
- Test Users: Eplerenone daily

“I AM BLOATED, NEED TO GET DEBLOATED TOMORROW”
1. Morning: HCTZ 50mg → starts sodium flush.
2. Evening: Sauna (15min) or Bath (60min) → drains face fluid.
3. Next Morning: Lasix 80mg (if desperate) → nukes remaining water.
- Add Face Icing → tighten skin.
- Potassium + Magnesium → Prevents crazy fatigue.

Warning: Lasix might also give you disgusting eye area by draining every last drop of water out of ur eyelids and eyebrows. I would just stick to HCTZ, If you must use Lasix, don't appear outside after 6 hours, that's when your eye area becomes REALLY BAD.

___


Final Note
This works for keeping you debloated by default, unless you’re eating 4 pizzas every day.

___

Alr, but where can I buy HZTC in eu

 

[Evgeniy291]

Alr, but where can I buy HZTC in eu

pharmacy

 

[paterick.bateman]

pharmacy

But doesn’t HZTC cause skin cancer?

 

[Evgeniy291]

But doesn’t HZTC cause skin cancer?

Low chance, going outside also can give u skin cancer

 

[paterick.bateman]

Low chance, going outside also can give u skin cancer

Says it can increase the risk with 900% tho

 

[paterick.bateman]

Low chance, going outside also can give u skin cancer

Thinking of just going with 25 mg Eplerenone ED. Would that have the same effect

 

[Evgeniy291]

Says it can increase the risk with 900% tho

Where

Thinking of just going with 25 mg Eplerenone ED. Would that have the same effect

ok

 

[paterick.bateman]

Where

ok

Google, also u can ask chat gpt rq.
Do u know any plug i can buy from tho? Since bg has a min purchase rule of 100$

 

[Evgeniy291]

Google, also u can ask chat gpt rq.
Do u know any plug i can buy from tho? Since bg has a min purchase rule of 100$

• Meta-Analysis Findings:
  • 1.3–2.5x increased SCC risk with prolonged HCTZ use (especially in high-UV regions).
  • No clear link to melanoma.
    
    

Yeah as I said



Now tell me what is the chance to get skin cancer from sun exposure? 0.0001% ??

0.0001% x2 +0.0002

Still nothing


You need to be using spf50 anyway to reduce aging



I already told u where I buy it as well

 

[paterick.bateman]

• Meta-Analysis Findings:
  • 1.3–2.5x increased SCC risk with prolonged HCTZ use (especially in high-UV regions).
  • No clear link to melanoma.
    

Yeah as I said



Now tell me what is the chance to get skin cancer from sun exposure? 0.0001% ??

0.0001% x2 +0.0002

Still nothing


You need to be using spf50 anyway to reduce aging



I already told u where I buy it as well

Alr thanks for the info

 

[paterick.bateman]

pharmacy

Yeah but what pharmacy I don’t have a prescription

 

[Evgeniy291]

Yeah but what pharmacy I don’t have a prescription

They dont ask for it unless ur in US

 

[paterick.bateman]

They dont ask for it unless ur in US

Oh alr ima try

 

[zemult]

No debloating for my narrow jaw

 

[Evgeniy291]

No debloating for my narrow jaw

Try hitting ur gonions with bricks

Brain will think ur in a constant fight mode and grow and thicken them so you survive

 

[zemult]

Try hitting ur gonions with bricks

Brain will think ur in a constant fight mode and grow and thicken them so you survive

Tbh i've come to the recent realization that i'm like 20% bf but i'm still 99% sure my jaw is narrow

I have a great side though, that helps me cope until my implants which should be later this year

 

[Evgeniy291]

Tbh i've come to the recent realization that i'm like 20% bf but i'm still 99% sure my jaw is narrow

I have a great side though, that helps me cope until my implants which should be later this year

tried eating tougher food? My jaw was really narrow before all the looksmaxxing shit 8 months ago.

(same angle as pfp)


Now the width is ideal, my massaters add 1cm width to each side

 

[zemult]

tried eating tougher food? My jaw was really narrow before all the looksmaxxing shit 8 months ago. View attachment 3640344 (same angle as pfp)


Now the width is ideal, my massaters add 1cm width to each side

I eat pretty tough food, and I had a gum cope period at some point jfl. Funnily enough, ramus length is correlated with chewing/masseter strength in some studies - I have a perfect ramus length.

It's hard to gauge your jaw width from this angle tho. There's some downward head tilt here

 

[Evgeniy291]

I eat pretty tough food, and I had a gum cope period at some point jfl. Funnily enough, ramus length is correlated with chewing/masseter strength in some studies - I have a perfect ramus length.

Never tried chewing gum, my ramus length is ideal as well.

It's hard to gauge your jaw width from this angle tho. There's some downward head tilt here

Pic is same as pfp

Here's another one but from a year ago

 

[Evgeniy291]

Never tried chewing gum, my ramus length is ideal as well.

Pic is same as pfp

Here's another one but from a year ago

View attachment 3640352

Wtf I had nct

 

[zemult]

Never tried chewing gum, my ramus length is ideal as well.

Pic is same as pfp

Here's another one but from a year ago

View attachment 3640352

It's incredibly distorted but there's an 87% bigonial which would be ideal (your cheeks are just bloated here)

I'm lucky if I can even get an 84% measurement in the most non lens distorted pictures jfl

Part of me wants to cope by thinking that my 20% bodyfat is expanding the perceived zygo width but I doubt it

 

[Evgeniy291]

It's incredibly distorted but there's an 87% bigonial which would be ideal (your cheeks are just bloated here)

I'm lucky if I can even get an 84% measurement in the most non lens distorted pictures jfl

Part of me wants to cope by thinking that my 20% bodyfat is expanding the perceived zygo width but I doubt it

How do you even measure it I have zero gonions in the pic lol

 

[Shinichi]

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THE ONLY DEBLOATING GUIDE YOU NEED

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Introduction
I’ve seen countless threads filled with terrible debloating advice lately— tips that demand you to make unsustainable dietary choices.
This guide exists to cut through the bullshit so you don’t waste time on nonsense like “cut all carbs/sugar” or “overload potassium.”

The thing is - Debloating isn’t about starving yourself or micromanaging every gram of sodium. It’s about working smarter, not harder.

Even if you’re a looksmaxxing "veteran", this thread has EVERYTHING you need. No bullshit—just actionable protocols that let you eat freely while staying lean.

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Why Most Methods Are a Waste of Time
Most advice you’ll hear boils down to:
- “Don't eat salt/sodium at all!”
- “Eat 10 bananas for potassium!”
- “Cut all carbs/sugar!”
- “Drink 4 liters of water daily!”
- “Starve yourself 24 hours before an event!”

Does this work? Maybe.
Is it sustainable/easy? Hell no.

Why stress over every single shit you eat when you can eat freely and STILL look lean the next day?

Spoiler

Unless you ate 3 pizzas..
but even then, you’ll look normal.

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What You Need
Debloating doesn’t require a fucking monk’s diet. ITS SIMPLE:
1. HCTZ (Hydrochlorothiazide) → Targets sodium-driven fluid retention without nuking electrolytes.
2. Lasix (Furosemide) → rapes your kidneys but good for events.
3. Eplerenone → For cycle/testosterone bloat (blocks aldosterone (not testosterone)).
4. Sauna/Hot Bath → Drains lymphatic fluid trapped in your face.
5. Ice → Tightens skin.

Most important: HCTZ + Sauna/Bath and face icing. Lasix and Eplerenone are optimal

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How to Use Each Tool

HCTZ – The Debloat KING
- What it does: Blocks sodium reabsorption in kidney tubules, flushing water from subcutaneous tissues (face, hands, legs). Unlike harsh diuretics, it spares potassium and magnesium.
- Why it’s better: Safe for long-term use (50mg every 3 days). No rebound bloat if cycled properly.
- Dose: 50mg every 3 days for maintenance. Take in the Morning to avoid Nighttime peeing.

Lasix – If Must Use
- What it does: Inhibits sodium/potassium/chloride reabsorption → flushes ALL electrolytes. Will RAPE your kidneys.
- When to use: Pre-cold approaching, clubbing, or going somewhere important
- Dose: 80mg once (once a week MAX). Take electrolytes (Potassium,Magnesium) after to avoid feeling like shit

Eplerenone – Only On A Cycle
- What it does: Blocks aldosterone (not testosterone) → increases sodium/water excretion without anti-androgenic sides (no gyno, libido loss).
- Dose: 100-200mg daily (if on cycle).

Sauna/Bath – Bloat Reset
- What it does: Heat dilates blood vessels → flushes lymphatic fluid (face puffiness).
- How: 10-15min sauna OR 45-60min hot bath 1-2 times a week.

**Face Icing – Tightens Your Skin**
- What it does: Vasoconstriction reduces blood flow → tighter skin + rosy cheeks (healthy glow).
- How: Ice in upward lymphatic drainage motions (2-5min daily).


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Optimal Protocols

Maintain a Debloated Look
- HCTZ: 50mg every 3 days → reduces sodium.
- Sauna/Bath: Once or twice weekly → resets lymphatic buildup.
- Face Icing: Daily AM → reduces AM puffiness.
- Eplerenone: 100-200mg daily (if on cycle) → counters testosterone’s aldosterone spike.

Sample Weekly Schedule:
- Sun/Wed: HCTZ + Sauna
- Daily: Face ice + electrolytes
- Test Users: Eplerenone daily

“I AM BLOATED, NEED TO GET DEBLOATED TOMORROW”
1. Morning: HCTZ 50mg → starts sodium flush.
2. Evening: Sauna (15min) or Bath (60min) → drains face fluid.
3. Next Morning: Lasix 80mg (if desperate) → nukes remaining water.
- Add Face Icing → tighten skin.
- Potassium + Magnesium → Prevents crazy fatigue.

Warning: Lasix might also give you disgusting eye area by draining every last drop of water out of ur eyelids and eyebrows. I would just stick to HCTZ, If you must use Lasix, don't appear outside after 6 hours, that's when your eye area becomes REALLY BAD.

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Final Note
This works for keeping you debloated by default, unless you’re eating 4 pizzas every day.

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All this effort just to continue eating carbohydrates

 

[zemult]

How do you even measure it I have zero gonions in the pic lol

 

[Shinichi]

All this effort just to continue eating carbohydrates

glucose retains water. Without jt you wont retain it

 

[Evgeniy291]

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Wasn't the ideal 80-90%? This doesn't look ideal to me lol

 

[zemult]

Wasn't the ideal 80-90%? This doesn't look ideal to me lol

believe it or not it's 87.4 there

you just don't have facial definition here due to your bloated cheeks + the distortion is playing a big role

 

[Evgeniy291]

glucose retains water. Without jt you wont retain it

How Glucose Indirectly Causes Water Retention​

1. Insulin Release
   • High glucose intake → spikes insulin (a hormone that regulates blood sugar).
   • Insulin increases sodium reabsorption in the kidneys → more water retained.
     
     
     
     WAIT.... Its almost as I talked about reducing sodium with one drug