THE POWER OF GH MANLETS GTFIH

[CurryCelHater]

What about estrogen rebound ?

never seen proof of estrogen rebound with letrozole and it has a long half life. im dosing everyday anyways.

 

[Deleted member 29747]

please do tell.

I will send ss, don’t. Want to type it

 

[Deleted member 29747]

never seen proof of estrogen rebound with letrozole and it has a long half life. im dosing everyday anyways.

I had estrogen rebound with arimidex, I might try letrozole

 

[CurryCelHater]

I will send ss, don’t. Want to type it

i watched many videos and read all the studies. yes sure it might increase anxiety at high doses for prolonged periods of times. im not worried about it. im going to be trying cerobyrolysin within the next week or two. MPMD has a video about mk causing brain damage and he explains it good. and my appetite on MK is not insane and its 100% real.

 

[Deleted member 29747]

i watched many videos and read all the studies. yes sure it might increase anxiety at high doses for prolonged periods of times. im not worried about it. im going to be trying cerobyrolysin within the next week or two. MPMD has a video about mk causing brain damage and he explains it good. and my appetite on MK is not insane and its 100% real.

Still not worth it imo it’s cons out ways it’s pros, I am surprised you would take mk, but not ghrh, ghrps

 

[CurryCelHater]

Still not worth it imo it’s cons out ways it’s pros, I am surprised you would take mk, but not ghrh, ghrps

i might try some of that stuff but dont wanna mess up my PIT gland even more than it already is. and my IGF1 levels are already super high. mk677 is just the cherry on top to improve sleep (which it does) and give a bit of a appetite increase.

 

[CurryCelHater]

Damn threads like this give me fomo

take the HGH pill.

 

[distance decay]

take the HGH pill.

Im 18 in 6 months and im at 180cm dont think im growing much more

 

[LVZZO]

kidsroidmax.org

 

[CurryCelHater]

it’s prob worth checking out for me ngl. i’m 18 but a late bloomer and my dad grew 1-2 inches in college

i would. if you were a twink in high school you likley had low T which would cause low E and prolong growth plate closure. i had low T but got it to normal levels hence why my growth plates are behind. this was good though because now i have access to GH and more knowledge. now with the addition of letrozole (after this blood test) i predict it will get even higher. maybe even close to 1000. im testing it again in February. now i can reap the benefits of HIGH T/DHT and HIGH GH during puberty.

- DECEMBER

- AUGUST

 

[CurryCelHater]

Im 18 in 6 months and im at 180cm dont think im growing much more

could maybe squeeze out an extra inch or two but might not be worth it regarding money/effort

 

[barnmatrix]

I will send ss, don’t. Want to type it

If your gonna post my knowledge at least give me credit lol

 

[barnmatrix]

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absolutely amazing. with the specific long acting GH medication i’m on, this is the lowest my levels possibly get. i predict they are about 800 or so at certain times of the week. maybe about 700 or so average.

THIS IS BEFORE ADDING MK 677. LOLOLOL GET GHS BOYS. THIS PHARMA GH IS LIFE FUEL. look at my levels (237) before GH treatment. 368 is after GH treatment at a SLIGHTLY lowered dose. 2mg weekly difference. what gives for the double in igf1 levels? who knows. protein hyperdosing? perfect sleep? LOLOLOLOL. hopefully my based blackpill endo doesn’t lower my dose. praying for all the manlets with no GH. AND I JUST ADDED IN LETROZOLE 6FT HERE WE COME.

5’6-5’9 IN LESS THAN A YEAR. ENDO MIGHT EVEN UP THE DOSE MORE IF I PLAY MY CARDS RIGHT LOL

Hey could you PM me the name of the drug your on, im curious.

Also you said you had a clinical GH deficiency? If so then that would explain your rapid growth, and to those admiring his gains just understand that he is responding much better to GH treatment than most because he has a deficiency. Those without a deficiency are unlikely to experience such rapid growth from GH unless they are taking extremely high doses.

Edit: Nvm I found the name of the drug, but curious, what country are you in that you got a doc who could prescribe this to you?

Edit: Is it really once weekly? thats quite interesting. How frequently do you have to inject it?

 

[Deleted member 29747]

If your gonna post my knowledge at least give me credit lol

My bad

 

[barnmatrix]

you guys won’t be able to source it as it’s a newer medication. not possible to source at all unless you find somebody with a prescription selling it. patented technology

I did some research on it, it seems the results are very similar to Somatropin, not necessarily better or worse. Same results can be achieved with Somatropin. Just wondering but how come they prescribed this to you instead of Somatropin? Whats the advantage to this just convinience?

 

[CurryCelHater]

I did some research on it, it seems the results are very similar to Somatropin, not necessarily better or worse. Same results can be achieved with Somatropin. Just wondering but how come they prescribed this to you instead of Somatropin? Whats the advantage to this just convinience?

i think most can still benefit height wise from GH just based off ISS studies granted high doses of GH usually with AI for best results. but yes, it was so good for me because i was deficient.

the dosing is once weekly (7 days). its just a little tiny injection. its much easier to adhere for the average joe. i dont know what long acting GH youre looking at. there are 2-3 ive heard of i believe. i live in the USA. this specific GH im on has only small increase in growthe velocity compared to somatropin. with my high dose of the GH its actually 2 smaller injections once a week. but i do them at the same time.

genotropin wouldnt approve me for insurance coverage because of my height. norditropin wasnt an option because of the inconsistent stock/supply.

only pronounced side effect of this GH compared to regular somatropin would be the localized lipoatrophy. luckily, its only happened on my glutes and now that im aware its less of a problem. it actually did happen on my lower back fat, but unlike what happened on my glutes, it looks better. it melted the love handles off of me literally.

i feel id be able to adhere to daily GH injections because i understand the benefits of it, but for many children/teens its difficult. so this once weekly injection with a rather small needle is game changing.

my endo noted anecdotally that the people they prescribed this specific long acting GH to have grown faster/taller overall compared to regular somatropin. consistent with the clinical data

 

[barnmatrix]

i think most can still benefit height wise from GH just based off ISS studies granted high doses of GH. but yes, it was so good for me because i was deficient.

Interesting to know. So the clinical data on this suggests that it is more effective than somatropin at inducing height growth from children with ISS. I wonder why that might be. What is your definition of "high doses" ?

 

[CurryCelHater]

Interesting to know. So the clinical data on this suggests that it is more effective than somatropin at inducing height growth from children with ISS. I wonder why that might be. What is your definition of "high doses" ?

im on about 7 ius equivalent GH to regular somatropin. thats what got me to this high IGF1 level (650). my 368 reading was when i was on about 5.5ius equivalent. i was going to try to get the dose upped again due to me being in the next weight class of 9ius equivalent, but i dont know if they can do it considering my current levels. i dont know why the small increase in GH dose caused such a drastic increase in IGF1. could be lifestyle related.

i believe the slightly better height outcomes of this longer acting GH can be attributed to either GH adherence or the fact that the HGH is in the blood stream for longer amounts of time. a half life of 20+ hours or so compared to 30 minutes is HUGE.

in ISS studies, they typically use 10-12ius daily of somatropin and only get 1-2 inches of extra height. with the addition of AI, commonly letrozole, they can get 3-4 inches. this is in the midst of puberty some late puberty (tanner stage 4-early5) and some early puberty. let me clarify, this long acting GH hasnt been used in ISS studies. im talking about regular somatropin in the ISS studies. i remember reading one ISS study and the kid had spinal deformities maybe from low estrogen. it was revealed he wasnt taking the prescribed vitamin D/calcium supplement which contributed to this.

but in the approval phases of this drug it was shown to have better height outcomes at the same equivalent dosage for HGH like Genotropin. all long acting GHs have better height outcomes not just the one im on.

in my case, with the access of this "better" gh and the addition of letrozole i sourced myself, i think i can grow even taller. im still earlier puberty. mid tanner stage 4 or so. ill have a thread on all of this in a year or two.

DIETMAXXING: An In-depth Guide On How To Maximize Development With Diet / / REPOST

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its worth noting i have a very high protein diet and get great sleep everynight. i also have my supp routine dialed in.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Nice thread

 

[barnmatrix]

im on about 7 ius equivalent GH to regular somatropin. thats what got me to this high IGF1 level (650). my 368 reading was when i was on about 5.5ius equivalent. i was going to try to get the dose upped again due to me being in the next weight class of 9ius equivalent, but i dont know if they can do it considering my current levels. i dont know why the small increase in GH dose caused such a drastic increase in IGF1. could be lifestyle related.

i believe the slightly better height outcomes of this longer acting GH can be attributed to either GH adherence or the fact that the HGH is in the blood stream for longer amounts of time. a half life of 20+ hours or so compared to 30 minutes is HUGE.

in ISS studies, they typically use 10-12ius daily of somatropin and only get 1-2 inches of extra height. with the addition of AI, commonly letrozole, they can get 3-4 inches. this is in the midst of puberty some late puberty (tanner stage 4-early5) and some early puberty. let me clarify, this long acting GH hasnt been used in ISS studies. im talking about regular somatropin in the ISS studies.

but in the approval phases of this drug it was shown to have better height outcomes at the same equivalent dosage for HGH like Genotropin. all long acting GHs have better height outcomes not just the one im on.

in my case, with the access of this "better" gh and the addition of letrozole i sourced myself, i think i can grow even taller. im still earlier puberty. mid tanner stage 4 or so. ill have a thread on all of this in a year or two.

Makes sense, interesting topic yeah. Ive seen a lot of confusion around what an optimal dose of GH would look like for a heightmaxer. Theres different approaches of course most reasonably wanting to limit to some extent "acromegaly" like growth. Its amazing to me how much of a difference just 1 iu of real GH can make in overall effects just in my experience.

Best of luck to you bro. The fact that you have a GH deficiency just shows more potential for growth. How deficient were you in GH prior to your prescription? Do you have a full condition or just low levels with no underlying cause?

What dose of letrozole are you using?

 

[Deleted member 33409]

so letrozole works? can you send me everything you took? im about to hop on too. what was your diet and sleep btw? did you also play any sport?

 

[CurryCelHater]

Makes sense, interesting topic yeah. Ive seen a lot of confusion around what an optimal dose of GH would look like for a heightmaxer. Theres different approaches of course most reasonably wanting to limit to some extent "acromegaly" like growth. Its amazing to me how much of a difference just 1 iu of real GH can make in overall effects just in my experience.

Best of luck to you bro. The fact that you have a GH deficiency just shows more potential for growth. How deficient were you in GH prior to your prescription? Do you have a full condition or just low levels with no underlying cause?

What dose of letrozole are you using?

genetic condition. more to it than just GH but doesnt affect me too much really. just thankful i dont have some extreme life ending facial deformity rather something than can be treated like this. my igf1 levels were borderline low maybe OK for my tanner stage. not optimal. i feel i got really lucky with my endo as they listen to everything i say.

1-4ius of real pharma GH for someone not deficient that responds good to GH can easily get them close to my levels. i dont know how some of these guys are taking 8-10ius with no diabetic symptoms or insane agromegly igf1 levels.

i dont know for sure but im wondering if my natural production has increased as well resulting in this IGF1 level. dont know really. e

as for the letrozole, i started with 1mg for 3 days and just moved up too 2mg yesterday. this is a new addition. i waited to get a baseline blood panel before starting it. will be cool to see the increase in testosterone as well. will stay at 2mg aslong as the sides arent too horrible.

 

[CurryCelHater]

so letrozole works? can you send me everything you took? im about to hop on too. what was your diet and sleep btw? did you also play any sport?

just started letrozole about 5 days ago. this was just the work of GH and a dialed in diet/supp routine. perfect sleep as well.

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looksmax.org

 

[shalomnigga]

Hey don’t use mk 677

why?

 

[Deleted member 29747]

just started letrozole about 5 days ago. this was just the work of GH and a dialed in diet/supp routine. perfect sleep as well.

DIETMAXXING: An In-depth Guide On How To Maximize Development With Diet / / REPOST

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I think I will use letrozole now

 

[Deleted member 33409]

just started letrozole about 5 days ago. this was just the work of GH and a dialed in diet/supp routine. perfect sleep as well.

DIETMAXXING: An In-depth Guide On How To Maximize Development With Diet / / REPOST

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looksmax.org

how did u manage to get good sleep? and how many hours? also what supps did u use?

 

[shalomnigga]

I will send ss, don’t. Want to type it

who is this nigga and why is he so studied on this topic is it freak for life

 

[barnmatrix]

why?

You can read my post about it someone posted it above

 

[CurryCelHater]

I think I will use letrozole now

i bought from brainlabz but i bought the last 2 bottles

 

[barnmatrix]

i dont know how some of these guys are taking 8-10ius with no diabetic symptoms or insane agromegly igf1 levels.

In my opinion they are just taking underdosed or fake GH and thats why theyre able to take such high doses with lesser effects. If it were 8 IUs of pharma GH the effects would be very different.

as for the letrozole, i started with 1mg for 3 days and just moved up too 2mg yesterday. this is a new addition. i waited to get a baseline blood panel before starting it. will be cool to see the increase in testosterone as well. will stay at 2mg aslong as the sides arent too horrible.

Seeing the testosterone increase is always nice. It almost kills two birds with one stone, keeps plates open and allows for higher androgens. Id be careful with that dosing of letrozole, you will most likely nuke your e2 entirely, which has some other unwanted implications on brain and bone development. Make sure to titrate your dose based on the bloods. From my research around 10 pg/ml is an optimal level of e2 to keep plates open

 

[Deleted member 29747]

I am buying from qsc

 

[CurryCelHater]

how did u manage to get good sleep? and how many hours? also what supps did u use?

all supps i used are in the diet post.

recently thought ive added in a 2-3mgs of liposomal melatonin and that improved my sleep was well. phone is on airplane mode when sleeping, blue light glasses before bed. i ordered the gorilla dream supp and get that tuesday. should help with sleep anymore.

my planned sleep stack is:
4-6caps gorilla dream, 200mg 5HTP, 15mg mk677 (2 days on 1 off), and im ordering cerebrolysin today. the sleep supps, letrozole, and mk are all new additions.

 

[Tallest person here]

where can i buy anamorelin and is it safe ive grown an inch just of mk so it would be a game changer if the sides aren’t horrible

How long u been on mk 677 for

 

[CurryCelHater]

In my opinion they are just taking underdosed or fake GH and thats why theyre able to take such high doses with lesser effects. If it were 8 IUs of pharma GH the effects would be very different.

Seeing the testosterone increase is always nice. It almost kills two birds with one stone, keeps plates open and allows for higher androgens. Id be careful with that dosing of letrozole, you will most likely nuke your e2 entirely, which has some other unwanted implications on brain and bone development. Make sure to titrate your dose based on the bloods. From my research around 10 pg/ml is an optimal level of e2 to keep plates open

the only time my estrogen was tested it was 8pg/ml using ultrasensitive LC/MS assay. super low already. i had test levels 400-500 the first two times i tested, and then it dropped to 230 in august. test was 230 estrodial was 8 in august.

i had been asking for my test/LH to be tested every few months for the past year just incase. it started at 400-went to 500- drop to 400- dropped to 230. when i saw the 230 test, i messaged my doc and talked to them about it. got prescribed 50mg test e MONTHLY (low low dose). been on that for 3 months i believe. might be able to up the dose to 50mg every two weeks or 100mg once monthly. this is the dosing to help with puberty and it seems to be doing its job considering the androgen increase. this 600ng/dl test reading was at the end of the month with no test E in system. doesnt make complete sense to me since the 50mg test E should shut you down and not be beneficial with supporting natural production, but i can confirm its helped with physical development. the dosing is so low for pediatrics as to not effect adult height. T therapy for pediatrics is complicated.

in the ISS studies with doses of letrozole 1-2.5mg very few children had bone/spinal abnormalities and those who did, didnt follow the supp routine prescribed to them. i think 1-2 years of letrozole therapy shouldnt cause bone problems.

the kicker is letrozole combined with T therapy is more effective than just T alone in puberty. so not one will the letrozole increase testosterone, it will help with both the T and HGH therapy. 3 birds with one stone. so 600ng/dl before letrozole and will test in mid February after a couple months on letrozole. will post those results as well.

cerebrolysin (purified pig brains from cosmic nootropic) is extremely useful in mood and is comparable to a SSRI in how it makes you feel. i plan on adding that at 5mls 1-2x weekly to help with serotonin uptake and neurogenesis. should help mitigate any potential brain problems from low E. full of growth factors for the brain. also great for sleep ive heard. although expensive, i consider this a worthy addition. it has a GREAT safety profile even for kids.

 

[barnmatrix]

the only time my estrogen was tested it was 8pg/ml using ultrasensitive LC/MS assay. super low already. i had test levels 400-500 the first two times i tested, and then it dropped to 230 in august. test was 230 estrodial was 8 in august.

i had been asking for my test/LH to be tested every few months for the past year just incase. it started at 400-went to 500- drop to 400- dropped to 230. when i saw the 230 test, i messaged my doc and talked to them about it. got prescribed 50mg test e MONTHLY (low low dose). been on that for 3 months i believe. might be able to up the dose to 50mg every two weeks or 100mg once monthly. this is the dosing to help with puberty and it seems to be doing its job considering the androgen increase. this 600ng/dl test reading was at the end of the month with no test E in system. doesnt make complete sense to me since the 50mg test E should shut you down and not be beneficial with supporting natural production, but i can confirm its helped with physical development. the dosing is so low for pediatrics as to not effect adult height. T therapy for pediatrics is complicated.

in the ISS studies with doses of letrozole 1-2.5mg very few children had bone/spinal abnormalities and those who did, didnt follow the supp routine prescribed to them. i think 1-2 years of letrozole therapy shouldnt cause bone problems.

the kicker is letrozole combined with T therapy is more effective than just T alone in puberty. so not one will the letrozole increase testosterone, it will help with both the T and HGH therapy. 3 birds with one stone. so 600ng/dl before letrozole and will test in mid February after a couple months on letrozole. will post those results as well.

cerebrolysin (purified pig brains from cosmic nootropic) is extremely useful in mood and is comparable to a SSRI in how it makes you feel. i plan on adding that at 5mls 1-2x weekly to help with serotonin uptake and neurogenesis. should help mitigate any potential brain problems from low E. full of growth factors for the brain. also great for sleep ive heard. although expensive, i consider this a worthy addition. it has a GREAT safety profile even for kids.

Cerebrolysin is really good stuff. Make sure you pin it in the right location.


Also very impressive, you managed to get a full looksmax/heightmax regimen prescribed to you by a doctor. How did you manage to get the test E prescribed especially at that age? your levels werent even out of range they were just bottom of the range. How come your estrogen was so low when you werent taking any AI? Also how does 50mg test E monthly work when testosterone enanthate half life is less than a month.

Edit: Is your plan just to keep on the test E indefinitely as a means of TRT? What do you think your levels are at?

Edit: Also I know you mentioned three birds with one stone but its not that simple, having a fucked up T:E ratio from taking too much testosterone plus an AI, in other words having a superphysiological level of testosterone whilst maintaining extremely low estrogen levels for the sake of keeping plates open, is actually not the same as having low estrogen levels with normal testosterone levels / no TRT. Estrogen and testosterone balance eachother out for many things in the body so I wouldnt recommend going too far with the TRT. It could really fuck up your lipids.

At your age are you not worried about the suppression of long term TRT? You could mess up your fertility.

 

[CurryCelHater]

Cerebrolysin is really good stuff. Make sure you pin it in the right location.


Also very impressive, you managed to get a full looksmax/heightmax regimen prescribed to you by a doctor. How did you manage to get the test E prescribed especially at that age? your levels werent even out of range they were just bottom of the range. How come your estrogen was so low when you werent taking any AI?

planning to pin it in my chest muscles. ive heard from leo longevity to do it closer to the head if possible. if that doesnt work ill do IM quads.

like i said my endo is a god send. and they're not doing anything off books im just advocating for myself and id consider myself knowledgeable on this stuff. and when we have our appointment every 4-6months its apparent i know what im talking about.

i dont know why my estrogen was so low but my bone age reflects it. my bone age progresses about 50% slower than my actual age. atleast based off the two bone age x rays i have. i made valid points in my message about the continuous decrease in testosterone over a year time span. i was only able to get it prescribed because I had asked for multiple tests in advance so we already had a bigger picture. the dosing is going to be increased, probably to 100mg once monthly. dont know the best route to go with it. either splitting it into 2 doses monthly or what.

TEST = 260 ESTRODIAL = 8
this was the lowest test TEST result so it makes sense for the low estrogen. still low probably even for that test

i can assume when my test was 400-500 my estrogen was maybe 10-15? dont know we only tested it once. still naturally low. just meant to be. but it worked out perfectly.

Edit: regarding the test E i will keep doing it. i have seen increases in body hair and slong size in only 3 months as this low dose. probably playing catch up for now.

i am aware of the potential lipid problems regarding a skewed test / E ratio. im hoping my perfect diet and sleep will help, however i plan on taking 500mg citrus bergamont 2x daily starting tuesday. its a OTC supp but still has shown to decrease LDL and increase HDL. i asked my doctor to test my lipids also before the letrozole so i have a base line. good HDL level, low triglycerides, medium LDL level.

i also considered my fertility status, however my natty T production is 600 as it is. then once a month i get a T injection. should have many implications on fertility as its not a weekly injection. 50-100mg T isnt enough for the whole month so my body still has to produce T.

i dont think my doc would prescribe actual TRT doses simply due to my age. i dont need them though. just the once monthly boost seems to help development.

 

[barnmatrix]

TEST = 260 ESTRODIAL = 8

Were you taking test E at the time of that test?

Also you've got quite an interesting story, quite similar to mine. I also listen to Leo ( rest in peace ), I believe he recommends pinning in the neck, but that is risky for most people who dont have medical training of how to administer injections in the neck, so probably traps would be next best thing.

Also did you just do a standard bone age x ray of the left wrist? Is that what your endo found to be the most effective metric of gauging growth potential?

 

[CurryCelHater]

Were you taking test E at the time of that test?

Also you've got quite an interesting story, quite similar to mine. I also listen to Leo ( rest in peace ), I believe he recommends pinning in the neck, but that is risky for most people who dont have medical training of how to administer injections in the neck, so probably traps would be next best thing.

Also did you just do a standard bone age x ray of the left wrist? Is that what your endo found to be the most effective metric of gauging growth potential?

no test E at the time of that. i saw the test result before my endo, they were on vacation. but thats what prompted me too message them asking about T therapy. at our previous appointment that same month, i had brought up my concerns with physical development based off of body hair on my legs arms etc. they said well test it again and go from there.e

so test was 230 natty - then had T (50mg once monthly) therapy for 2 months - got my T tested again at the end of month 2 - T was 600ng/dl with NO test E in body. after i got the blood test i got my monthly 50mg T injection. dont know why my natural production increased so significantly. i had good sleep before both tests and they were taken at the same time.

i dont know what wrist but probably left wrist yes. thats what ive gotten twice showing a bone age of late 14/early15 - 15.5. the time inbetween REAL LIFE time between x rays was 10 months.

yeah im sketched out with the neck injection. hopefully i can do chest.

 

[barnmatrix]

no test E at the time of that. i saw the test result before my endo, they were on vacation. but thats what prompted me too message them asking about T therapy. at our previous appointment that same month, i had brought up my concerns with physical development based off of body hair on my legs arms etc. they said well test it again and go from there.

i dont know what wrist but probably left wrist yes. thats what ive gotten twice showing a bone age of late 14/early15 - 15.5. the time inbetween REAL LIFE time between x rays was 10 months.

yeah im sketched out with the neck injection. hopefully i can do chest.

You really lucked out with that endo, most doctors would look at testosterone levels of 260 and say "eh he'll be fine" when in reality those levels are absolutely absurd for a young male. To be honest tho, are you not concerned about the potential implications of long term TRT at your age? Do you ever plan to stop taking it or PCT?

 

[CurryCelHater]

You really lucked out with that endo, most doctors would look at testosterone levels of 260 and say "eh he'll be fine" when in reality those levels are absolutely absurd for a young male. To be honest tho, are you not concerned about the potential implications of long term TRT at your age? Do you ever plan to stop taking it or PCT?

my testicles are normal size i would say and considering the 600ng/dl reading at the end of the month, no im not concerned. however if we do up the dose, i will talk to my endo about the potential implications. next appointment is mid February im sticking with this for now. who knows they might stop giving it to me all together if my T is super high in a couple months due to letrozole. i cant hide that from them only play it off.

i told my doc straight up im trying to maximize my physical development and they understand. really a god send. the IGF1 levels alone are amazing. and im in the next weight range for GH dose upping but doubt they will this time because my levels are already high and thats at the end of the week. probably 100 points higher minimum early week.

 

[wyatt737]

went to GP normal doctor appointment because i was having super bad headaches losing weight etc. got a referral to endo for hypothyroidism. they tested some basic stuff, but this stuff is super interesting too me, so i went down a rabbit hole. once i had access to the endo i naturally became obsessed with this stuff and wanted to maximize development. then i found looksmaxxing so it all turned out good.

you’re based in the UK? so am I, which doctor did you go to

 

[CurryCelHater]

you’re based in the UK? so am I, which doctor did you go to

USA

 

[orangomango2003]

it's an easy way to spot the people with a lower ability of critical thinking if they inject hgh thinking it will increase their height.

the extra amount of growth hormone and igf-1 won't make a difference in the end. you need open growth plates if you still want to grow. but higher growth hormone levels will also have side effects. so it's never worth it.

this amount of hgh and igf-1 will just cause you to grow to your potential sooner. it won't change the potential itself.

go to a doctor if you're worried about having low hgh or igf. injecting it yourself if there's no need to is just a waste of money.

 

[CurryCelHater]

it's an easy way to spot the people with a lower ability of critical thinking if they inject hgh thinking it will increase their height.

the extra amount of growth hormone and igf-1 won't make a difference in the end. you need open growth plates if you still want to grow. but higher growth hormone levels will also have side effects. so it's never worth it.

this amount of hgh and igf-1 will just cause you to grow to your potential sooner. it won't change the potential itself.

go to a doctor if you're worried about having low hgh or igf. injecting it yourself if there's no need to is just a waste of money.

high doses of HGH can 100% increase adult height especially when combined with an AI. if you had a IQ above 2 digits you'd see that this was prescribed GH retard.

 

[orangomango2003]

high doses of HGH can 100% increase adult height especially when combined with an AI. if you had a IQ above 2 digits you'd see that this was prescribed GH retard.

wow you're so smart. i never thought about that!

go ahead and take hgh + mk677.

 

[Kazakh Theist]

how much does this all cost? is it covered or you paying out of pocket

 

[CurryCelHater]

how much does this all cost? is it covered or you paying out of pocket

GH is 100% covered by insurance

 

[Kazakh Theist]

GH is 100% covered by insurance

country?

 

[Deleted member 33409]

Hey could you PM me the name of the drug your on, im curious.

Also you said you had a clinical GH deficiency? If so then that would explain your rapid growth, and to those admiring his gains just understand that he is responding much better to GH treatment than most because he has a deficiency. Those without a deficiency are unlikely to experience such rapid growth from GH unless they are taking extremely high doses.

Edit: Nvm I found the name of the drug, but curious, what country are you in that you got a doc who could prescribe this to you?

Edit: Is it really once weekly? thats quite interesting. How frequently do you have to inject it?

whats the name of the hgh he took?

 

[Deleted member 33409]

@CurryCelHater can you pm me? i have some questions to ask if you dont mind