The TALL NORMIE PILL is real

[johncruz12345]

Being tall as an ethnic has no effect

 

[Br0sk1]

No obviously, and nobody is claiming that just your height will get you results if you are less than HTN facially.
Similarly, being chad/chadlite facially, but being less than average height is also not going to get you any results.

To make up for any single deficit in terms of face/height, you have to be exceptional in the other one. Somewhat below average height, better be near 99% facially (Tom Holland, Cruise), somewhat below average facially better be 99%+ height wise (Marko Jaric). These results may only apply when deficiencies are not too far below average. (maybe 1 stddev?). If you are too far below in one aspect, your life will be hell, and no way you will be able to make up for it with other things.

It should be noted here that when most guys here talk about Chads/Stacies, we're referring to maybe the top 0.1% of people if not even rarer individuals. Tom Holland would be rated HTN by most here, for example and maybe lower-end Chadlite by some people.

I think stacylites are somewhat still insecure because they don't really are stacies, and yet still have some failos? Like a bad nose, acne, etc.?

And in terms of the looks purgatory argument, some foids would be considered normie SMV wise since they lack might be above average in one thing, but lacking in other things. Think short stacies / tall beckies. Don't consider this an argument though, I am just thinking out loud.


So, on similar lines, since I was being energetic, and trying to be the life of the party, people should have tried to get closer to me? Just a plausible diametrically opposite situation from what you described.

P.S.: At least give reacts guys.

Stacylites by this site's standards do not struggle with men in any way whatsoever. They can get a proper top 0.1% Chad for LTR even, if they're savvy enough and fit the type of the Chad in question. The only way they can "struggle" is if they want a Chad who has everything going for him (money, status, etc.) and will not settle for less.

Foids generally will also not struggle to get a man for LTR if they're not trying to be (especially) hypergamous and will never end up in looks purgatory like men can. I think looks purgatory is a men-only phenomenon, like inceldom generally.

I still stand by my contention that you may have put yourself in a purgatory-like category by being a life of the party GL short guy, but it's hard to say why exactly people weren't more drawn to you.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

I still stand by my contention that you may have put yourself in a purgatory-like category by being a life of the party GL short guy, but it's hard to say why exactly people weren't more drawn to you.

I am definitely in looks purgatory. Been there all my life. In terms of looks, because of my height and higher melanin. In terms of personality, by being the life of the party. I have tried running the shy autistic guy game though... and at that time I used to get approached by confident stacylites.

I think people weren't drawn to me...mostly because of my height and tear-trough failo which makes you look tired and low-energy.

 

[Br0sk1]

I am definitely in looks purgatory. Been there all my life. In terms of looks, because of my height and higher melanin. In terms of personality, by being the life of the party. I have tried running the shy autistic guy game though... and at that time I used to get approached by confident stacylites.

I think people weren't drawn to me...mostly because of my height and tear-trough failo which makes you look tired and low-energy.

I'd buy that you're in looks purgatory. I wouldn't recommend being a shy autistic guy simply because that probably sinks you into oofy doofy territory where an attractive gf you might have will not treat you respectfully and will want you to be in her shadow. Obviously, it's your call to make whether that kind of relationship appeals to you however.

 

[Deleted member 18917]

I'd buy that you're in looks purgatory. I wouldn't recommend being a shy autistic guy simply because that probably sinks you into oofy doofy territory where an attractive gf you might have will not treat you respectfully and will want you to be in her shadow. Obviously, it's your call to make whether that kind of relationship appeals to you however.

I'm a 6'4-6'5 normie, am I in looks purgatory?
Now imagine a HTN with the same height, would he be in looks purgatory?

 

[Br0sk1]

I'm a 6'4-6'5 normie, am I in looks purgatory?
Now imagine a HTN with the same height, would he be in looks purgatory?

I would assume so, but I don't know anything about your life story.

I think height would tend not to pull anyone out of looks purgatory, so I would assume a 6'4" HTN is in looks purgatory if he's also failoed by being a low sex appeal aspie.

 

[Deleted member 18917]

I would assume so, but I don't know anything about your life story.

what does it even mean to be in looks purgatory?

 

[Br0sk1]

what does it even mean to be in looks purgatory?

The basic idea is that you don't get the perks of being a high LMS male: easy dating life with women who are at least slim Beckies, mainly and in addition, you can't be an "oofy doofy" low LMS male that appeals to women who want a simp boyfriend who is content to be their lapdog and live in their shadow.

 

[Deleted member 18917]

The basic idea is that you don't get the perks of being a high LMS male: easy dating life with women who are at least slim Beckies, mainly and in addition, you can't be an "oofy doofy" low LMS male that appeals to women who want a simp boyfriend who is content to be their lapdog and live in their shadow.

ohh yeah that makes sense. I mean I get a decent amount of HTB's and shit and I do see tall normies having pretty good success in general, I've seen some slayer tall NTmaxxed normies in my life.
How low looks do you have to be to reach oofy doofy level?

 

[Gerardwayfan]

190cm 5/10 will lose against 175cm 7/10. in any case in France, in your country I don't know, but here I hear all day long girls saying "omg he's too beautiful" or on the contrary "he's too ugly")

idk i think that it s a tie

 

[Br0sk1]

ohh yeah that makes sense. I mean I get a decent amount of HTB's and shit and I do see tall normies having pretty good success in general, I've seen some slayer tall NTmaxxed normies in my life.
How low looks do you have to be to reach oofy doofy level?

It actually sounds like you're not in looks purgatory and are able to live the life of a (moderately-)high LMS man.

I think oofy doofies are typically average height and short LTNs and MTNs who are typically skinnyfat, non-gymcels. Also, they will be NT, but not super well-dressed and not possessing of a strong personality or a lot of charisma.

 

[attarde75]

idk i think that it s a tie

On paper perhaps, but I assure you that a beautiful screw, a girl wets directly.

 

[attarde75]

idk i think that it s a tie

Ted Bundy was about 5'8-5'9, and he attracted teenagers because they were handsome (well, maybe that's a shitty example)

 

[CFW432]

Just want to be 6'3...

 

[Gerardwayfan]

On paper perhaps, but I assure you that a beautiful screw, a girl wets directly.

i feel like 50% of the girls would go for the 190cm guy, and 50% to the 7 out of 10 but 5.85'.

 

[Br0sk1]

Just want to be 6'3...

I think it won't do as much as you think it will, unless you're a 5'5" Chadlite or something right now.

 

[CFW432]

I think it won't do as much as you think it will, unless you're a 5'5" Chadlite or something right now.

Nah normie curry, but I'm also willing to bleachmaxx and surgerymaxx as well.

 

[EdouardManlet]

So, I have been socializing and trying to observe a lot of stuff that foids do. From what I have seen so far, without a doubt, foids pay far more attention to taller guys who are normie/HTN compared to short chads/chadlites.

Yesterday, at a party, an autistic tall HTN got more attention than me (I'm a short chad). The guy was shy as hell... did not even move from his chair the entire time and couldn't even gather the courage to join people at the floor. Just sat in the corner like a true high-inhib autist.

But foids continued to go and talk to him whereas no foids came my way to introduce themselves and talk, even though I was giga low-inhib and rocking my socks away at the party. The foids were 20-24y olds mostly with few stacylites, but no stacy.

I don't know what more evidence people need for HEIGHT > FACE. If you are shorter/equal height than her, you're invisible. No matter your face.

But still, thinking about it, I found two reasons for this:
1. Either the tall normie pill is actually true.
2. Or, most women are not confident enough to actually go and talk to a chad, and they get intimidated.
The second might seem like cope, but it may actually be true, since even observing from my own behavior, I was giga-shy about making eye contact with foids when I was a high-inhib manlet povertycel. Tall HTN people seem easier to talk to. Even as men, we always try to go near the taller members of a group.

So, unless you guys accept the 'girls feeling intimidated' argument, the TALL NORMIE/HTN PILL IS REAL.

what country is this?

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Oofy doofy theory is a partial counter to the hypergamy argument.

Not sure the percentage of women who are like this. I think White women are more likely to want an oofy doofy, then maybe East Asians next. East Asian men are typically oofy doofies by default (almost impossible to be a Chad with Asian traits), so this might be an ancient evolutionary strategy for Asian men.

Another contingent of women still wants the highest LMS men they can get.

Guys who are tall MTNs/HTNs and maybe guys who are properly GL but short I think tend to end up in looks purgatory, where their looks and other attributes typically make them too attractive/threatening to appeal to the oofy doofy-oriented women, but not attractive enough for the women who want the high LMS guys.

Kudos to @6ft4 for coming up with the looks purgatory concept, or at least naming it and fleshing it out.

Brutal oofy doofy pill. gonna have to add that one to my blackpilled pharmacy.

 

[Sigmamale]

The basic idea is that you don't get the perks of being a high LMS male: easy dating life with women who are at least slim Beckies, mainly and in addition, you can't be an "oofy doofy" low LMS male that appeals to women who want a simp boyfriend who is content to be their lapdog and live in their shadow.

Do you think short MTN's automatically have oofy doofy appeal?

 

[Br0sk1]

Do you think short MTN's automatically have oofy doofy appeal?

Probably not if they're masculine and/or gymcelled. Having too much of a backbone and being too confident and successful could also be problematic.

Physically, a short MTN would need to be mid-range for facial masculinity at most and noticeably skinnyfat to have good oofy doofy appeal, I think

 

[Br0sk1]

Brutal oofy doofy pill. gonna have to add that one to my blackpilled pharmacy.

Add in the all-encompassing looks purgatory concept too, which synthesizes "Oofy doofy theory" and "Chad theory" all in one.

 

[exeight]

You aren’t a chad

THIS!!!

you cant be chad AND short... either you are CHAD (good looking face on a tall body).. now, we could discuss what is tall?
i think above 5'11 with good looking face = CHAD
everything under 5'10 cant be chad...... because women would not see you as a potential sexual partner
you must pass a certain treshold.. treshold 1 = above 5'11.. when you pass this then your Face is treshold 2

its like obese guys would never ever be considered as sexual partner
they will sorted out subconsiously..

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

How low looks do you have to be to reach oofy doofy level?

Maybe somebody should start looksmin.org

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

you cant be chad AND short... either you are CHAD (good looking face on a tall body).. now, we could discuss what is tall?
i think above 5'11 with good looking face = CHAD
everything under 5'10 cant be chad...... because women would not see you as a potential sexual partner
you must pass a certain treshold.. treshold 1 = above 5'11.. when you pass this then your Face is treshold 2

How do you describe chad faces on a short body then...? Don't think we have a term for that other than chadlet. And using PSL rating everytime is only suitable for the autistcels.

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Another facecel coper. Still waiting on a tinder experiment where a tall ogre slays jfl

 

[Deleted member 18917]

Another facecel coper. Still waiting on a tinder experiment where a tall ogre slays jfl

ofc height doesn't work on tinder, what are you gonna type 6'10 in your bio? women don't look at your bio unless you're HTN+, and even then, they can't grasp how tall that is unless they see it irl.
Irl tho, different story. Height+frame play a big part.

 

[exeight]

How do you describe chad faces on a short body then...? Don't think we have a term for that other than chadlet. And using PSL rating everytime is only suitable for the autistcels.

The Term "Chad" describe in my opinion the whole human... the face and the body (good physique) = chad
short man with good looking face = chadlite.. (or like you said, "chadlet" describe it the best)

tall man with average face = HTN?

 

[Br0sk1]

Maybe somebody should start looksmin.org

I had thought about looksminning for myself, but decided it wasn't worth it because of the type of relationship I would be likely to have if I did: https://looksmax.org/threads/methods-of-beating-looks-purgatory.462837/

One of the points that got brought up in that thread is that oofy doofies have little to no power in their relationships. A man with self-respect should not be happy with that.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Further UPDATE:

There are new pics coming out of this tall HT normie (6ft1 I guess) I was talking about. In every pic, 5-6 women are parking themselves near him.

This guy, like I said, is fucking autist, nerdcel and low-confidence. He can't even sustain a conversation with anyone, and is usually found in a corner coping with himself. Yet foids keep attaching themselves to him.

TALL HTNORMIE is the PRIME IRL, simply because every girl would go talk to him, but SHORT CHAD will be invisible.

 

[johncruz12345]

Further UPDATE:

There are new pics coming out of this tall HT normie (6ft1 I guess) I was talking about. In every pic, 5-6 women are parking themselves near him.

This guy, like I said, is fucking autist, nerdcel and low-confidence. He can't even sustain a conversation with anyone, and is usually found in a corner coping with himself. Yet foids keep attaching themselves to him.

TALL HTNORMIE is the PRIME IRL, simply because every girl would go talk to him, but SHORT CHAD will be invisible.

You are probably underating him.

He's probss a white chadlite with good harmony + hair.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

You are probably underating him.

He's probss a white chadlite with good harmony + hair.

He's a dark latino. Could be a low chadlite. Hair is normal, neither halo nor failo.

 

[Lihito]

Or, most women are not confident enough to actually go and talk to a chad, and they get intimidated.

Biggest cope in the existence of mankind . Im manlet HTN and my mother always told me how women are afraid to talk to me cause of my looks LMAAOOOOO at MY BLUEPILL MOTHER (IM 5'7 in the Balkans which is death tier)


Women love chads and women talk to chads , period. Also tall normie is legit and they Always get more attention then me

 

[Lihito]

I was thinking a little more taller (I am more like 5ft8), but yeah I agree.


At the least I am chadlite. I have legit been told to do modeling by foids as well as my chad social circle. Obviously they say it only on the basis of face. Even at the photos I took at the party, I facially mog everyone, but I am heightmogged also by everyone (mostly guys).

Bro can you PM pic i want to be mogged today again (today i Got heightmogged by 3 6'5 Balkan women)

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Biggest cope in the existence of mankind . Im manlet HTN and my mother always told me how women are afraid to talk to me cause of my looks LMAAOOOOO at MY BLUEPILL MOTHER (IM 5'7 in the Balkans which is death tier)

I was just extrapolating from my own behavior from past when I couldn't even make eye contact with a foid if she was attractive). I could talk to everyone, and was confident, but just not able to talk to attractive foids. (not sure the reason - non-NT? childhood experiences?) Like, they'd give me IOIs but I would always turn my eyes away.

There's a small fraction of women who might be shy, and thus get intimidated, but I think that can be inferred from baseline behavior. If she's shy with everyone, then she's shy with you.

Women love chads and women talk to chads , period. Also tall normie is legit and they Always get more attention then me

Same.

 

[Br0sk1]

Further UPDATE:

There are new pics coming out of this tall HT normie (6ft1 I guess) I was talking about. In every pic, 5-6 women are parking themselves near him.

This guy, like I said, is fucking autist, nerdcel and low-confidence. He can't even sustain a conversation with anyone, and is usually found in a corner coping with himself. Yet foids keep attaching themselves to him.

TALL HTNORMIE is the PRIME IRL, simply because every girl would go talk to him, but SHORT CHAD will be invisible.

I think maybe they just see this man like a mentally handicapped child and are taking pity on him (and therefore speaking to him), not seeing him as a potential relationship prospect.

Can you PM me pics of him btw? Add squiggles and shit if you're super worried about doxxing.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

I think maybe they just see this man like a mentally handicapped child and are taking pity on him (and therefore speaking to him), not seeing him as a potential relationship prospect.

Can you PM me pics of him btw? Add squiggles and shit if you're super worried about doxxing.

Nah, bunch of girls surrounding you in every pic and trying to hug you is indicator of attraction, not anything else.

I'll try sending pics when I'm free.

 

[Br0sk1]

Nah, bunch of girls surrounding you in every pic and trying to hug you is indicator of attraction, not anything else.

I'll try sending pics when I'm free.

I dunno about that. There's a deeply Autistic guy who seems a bit low IQ as well that I have on Instagram who is always posting pics of himself with girls. He has one or two friends who do the same thing.

There's no way the girls in question aren't just virtue signalling/taking pity either.

 

[spongebob]

Being taller is a must
Facially being above the threshold is a must

In my own experience, neck down Im a chad. 6"2 188 with great frame and muscle. I mog 90% in the minimum in the Netherlands.

Facially Im below average. My good eye area makes up most.

In my experience having a good face makes the girl attracted (like High school girls do) and it's important of course but...
Being tall and good body triggers the feminine instincts. I remember when I went to school one day after the gym in the morning and I swear I could feel the feminine pheromones/hormones buzzling in the air. I felt such a weird energy. I had like 5 girls in class check me out 1 day.
I especially notice it with petite girls. Their genetics are screaming to procreate and make up for their deficiency.

If you are uglier in the face, you can make up by having good body and masculine frame/energy/temperament. It simply triggers their prehistoric instincts and bypasses the face.

 

[FreakkForLife]

Biggest cope in the existence of mankind . Im manlet HTN and my mother always told me how women are afraid to talk to me cause of my looks LMAAOOOOO at MY BLUEPILL MOTHER (IM 5'7 in the Balkans which is death tier)


Women love chads and women talk to chads , period. Also tall normie is legit and they Always get more attention then me

Why dont u heightmaxx?
How old r u?

 

[Lihito]

Why dont u heightmaxx?
How old r u?

19 so its over and i dont have money For HGH

I can maxx out at 5'9 Like my father but i wont cause im starving myself For leanmaxx

 

[FreakkForLife]

19 so its over and i dont have money For HGH

I can maxx out at 5'9 Like my father but i wont cause im starving myself For leanmaxx

Can u spend 200-300$ per month?
It would be enough.



Also,some guys have grown 2-3 inches at the age of 25+ ,if u want i can add u to their group,u can discuss the method with them,just give me ur telegram username,so i can add u

 

[Lihito]

200-300$ per month?

If i had 20 thousand kidneys to pull out then maybe

 

[Lihito]

Can u spend 200-300$ per month?
It would be enough.



Also,some guys have grown 2-3 inches at the age of 25+ ,if u want i can add u to their group,u can discuss the method with them,just give me ur telegram username,so i can add u

I will bro , telegram group moggs

 

[FreakkForLife]

If i had 20 thousand kidneys to pull out then maybe

I Understand bro.

Can't u wagelsave?
Just asking,

 

[trytoheightmaxx]

¿Puedes gastar 200-300 $ por mes?
Sería suficiente.



Además, algunos muchachos han crecido de 2 a 3 pulgadas a la edad de 25 años o más, si quieres, puedo agregarte a su grupo, puedes discutir el método con ellos, solo dame tu nombre de usuario de Telegram, para que pueda agregarte

Telegram @sickkbooyy

 

[FreakkForLife]

I will bro , telegram group moggs

Some guys have been seeing gains of 1 inch in 1 months,they can get even more.

The highest was touched by an ultra dedicated and disciplined guy who got 3.5 inches.

 

[sevensources]

Being tall as an ethnic has no effect

Except if you're black

 

[sevensources]

You don't need to be tall, just NT.

 

[Lihito]

Can u spend 200-300$ per month?
It would be enough.



Also,some guys have grown 2-3 inches at the age of 25+ ,if u want i can add u to their group,u can discuss the method with them,just give me ur telegram username,so i can add u

bro can you link me that group?

also how do telegram groups even work