The TALL NORMIE PILL is real

[AlexanderTheGreat]

So, I have been socializing and trying to observe a lot of stuff that foids do. From what I have seen so far, without a doubt, foids pay far more attention to taller guys who are normie/HTN compared to short chads/chadlites.

Yesterday, at a party, an autistic tall HTN got more attention than me (I'm a short chad). The guy was shy as hell... did not even move from his chair the entire time and couldn't even gather the courage to join people at the floor. Just sat in the corner like a true high-inhib autist.

But foids continued to go and talk to him whereas no foids came my way to introduce themselves and talk, even though I was giga low-inhib and rocking my socks away at the party. The foids were 20-24y olds mostly with few stacylites, but no stacy.

I don't know what more evidence people need for HEIGHT > FACE. If you are shorter/equal height than her, you're invisible. No matter your face.

But still, thinking about it, I found two reasons for this:
1. Either the tall normie pill is actually true.
2. Or, most women are not confident enough to actually go and talk to a chad, and they get intimidated.
The second might seem like cope, but it may actually be true, since even observing from my own behavior, I was giga-shy about making eye contact with foids when I was a high-inhib manlet povertycel. Tall HTN people seem easier to talk to. Even as men, we always try to go near the taller members of a group.

So, unless you guys accept the 'girls feeling intimidated' argument, the TALL NORMIE/HTN PILL IS REAL.

 

[Growth Plate]

people will never accept this
women are biologically programmed to like good genetics not just a pretty face
manletism is shit genetics
if I was a girl, I'd rather go for a tall htn than a chadlet because at least the tall htn is above avg facially and he has height too while the chadlet has a pretty face but his height wouldn't make me feel protected

 

[𝔻𝔸𝕎ℕ 𝕆𝔽 𝕂ℍ𝔸L]

i'm gay?

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[Deleted member 18418]

I agree, as a tall htn i do better than my 5'1 chadlet

 

[germanlooks]

I'm a short chad

You aren’t a chad

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

I agree, as a tall htn i do better than my 5'1 chadlet

I was thinking a little more taller (I am more like 5ft8), but yeah I agree.

You aren’t a chad

At the least I am chadlite. I have legit been told to do modeling by foids as well as my chad social circle. Obviously they say it only on the basis of face. Even at the photos I took at the party, I facially mog everyone, but I am heightmogged also by everyone (mostly guys).

 

[Deleted member 18418]

I was thinking a little more taller (I am more like 5ft8), but yeah I agree.


At the least I am chadlite. I have legit been told to do modeling by foids as well as my chad social circle. Obviously they say it only on the basis of face. Even at the photos I took at the party, I facially mog everyone, but I am heightmogged also by everyone (mostly guys).

pic?

 

[Deleted member 17723]

tall normie with a decent pheno cant lose in life

 

[attarde75]

6'2 post here while chadlet like Efron or Holland are in Holiwood.

It's much easier genetically to reach 6' than 5 psl, so there are in fact many more tall people on this site than beautiful ones, so people want to defend their interests and that's why you hear all day long here: height > face. A woman falls in love with a face, remember that.

 

[attarde75]

6'2 post here while chadlet like Efron or Holland are in Holiwood.

It's much easier genetically to reach 6' than 5 psl, so there are in fact many more tall people on this site than beautiful ones, so people want to defend their interests and that's why you hear all day long here: height > face. A woman falls in love with a face, remember that.

height = (very) important, face = essential

 

[attarde75]

it is true that there are compilations of this type with the title "compilation of men measuring between 190cm and 210cm".

 

[betrayed by 5‘8]

yes height > face should be water by now I don't even norms know it's all bout height as a man I don't , only gay psl autists claim face>height

 

[wollet2]

Muh tall NORMIE . U autists cant accept that size is life

Dnr autistic essay

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

6'2 post here while chadlet like Efron or Holland are in Holiwood.

It's much easier genetically to reach 6' than 5 psl, so there are in fact many more tall people on this site than beautiful ones, so people want to defend their interests and that's why you hear all day long here: height > face. A woman falls in love with a face, remember that.

Dude, I obviously am aware of what you are talking about.

But you also have to consider that not all short chads would have a face that is 99.99% like Efron or Cruise, etc.
Also being in Hollywood itself is a Titanic-level statusmaxxing and anyone there has a 99.99% face and giga SMV. I would never expect a real-life chadlet (or chad) to have any of those statusmaxxing or 99.99% face. If that were the case, every chad would be in Hollywood.

It's much easier genetically to reach 6' than 5 psl

Yeah, we all know that to be true. But what does it mean? Are you saying that just because height is more prevalent that it has lesser value? I would actually argue the opposite way, that evolutionarily speaking height has MORE value since evolution has selected for height to be much more prevalent in the population as compared to good faces (more people are tall than the number of good-looking people). And the argument for that is simple: height gives off protector instincts. And foids have a visceral need for a protector.

so there are in fact many more tall people on this site than beautiful ones, so people want to defend their interests and that's why you hear all day long here: height > face.

It's actually the opposite. Tall people on the site who might not get lays would actually say face > height.

 

[Xangsane]

At the least I am chadlite. I have legit been told to do modeling by foids as well as my chad social circle. Obviously they say it only on the basis of face. Even at the photos I took at the party, I facially mog everyone, but I am heightmogged also by everyone (mostly guys).

Really?

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

it is true that there are compilations of this type with the title "compilation of men measuring between 190cm and 210cm".

In that PSL gods video

Chico: 6'3
Gandy: 6'2
Dellisolla: 6'1.5 (height listed by agency, likely at least an inch shorter irl. Barrett listed as 6'2)
O'Pry: 5'11.5 (according to celebheights, not height listed by model agency)
Barrett: 5'11 (according to celebheights, not height listed by model agency)
Delon: 5'9

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

it is true that there are compilations of this type with the title "compilation of men measuring between 190cm and 210cm".

So you're saying that every IRL chad has a PSL god level face? And their experiences should be the same as the PSL gods? There are probably 1M times more chads (+chadlets) than the number of PSL gods, and they are the ones I am talking about.
PSL Gods, and Hollywood chadlets literally implies that their faces were so much top-tier that they were able to escape their height (not really because they have to heightfraud them in movies)

 

[BearBoy]

whats ur height?

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

Really?

TBH only when I am lean. Most of the times I am somewhat bloated with no cheekbone definition since I have to do careermaxxing in order to be able to overcome my height.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

whats ur height?

5ft6 really but frauded to 5ft8.

 

[attarde75]

In that PSL gods video

Chico: 6'3
Gandy: 6'2
Dellisolla: 6'1.5 (height listed by agency, likely at least an inch shorter irl. Barrett listed as 6'2)
O'Pry: 5'11.5 (according to celebheights, not height listed by model agency)
Barrett: 5'11 (according to celebheights, not height listed by model agency)
Delon: 5'9

Are you stupid or what? This video shows their face, not their height (at no time do we see their bodies) and even with 170cm they would be here, they would not be a model like delon (because you have to be tall), but an actor (like delon)

 

[BearBoy]

5ft6 really but frauded to 5ft8.

then of course its over for you in club, the 5 11 one will beat the 6ft2 - 6 4 if he has better face and will do better

 

[Xangsane]

TBH only when I am lean. Most of the times I am somewhat bloated with no cheekbone definition since I have to do careermaxxing in order to be able to overcome my height.

I want to give you a little advice.

 

[Deleted member 19281]

(I'm a short chad).

Stopped reading here

 

[attarde75]

Dude, I obviously am aware of what you are talking about.

But you also have to consider that not all short chads would have a face that is 99.99% like Efron or Cruise, etc.
Also being in Hollywood itself is a Titanic-level statusmaxxing and anyone there has a 99.99% face and giga SMV. I would never expect a real-life chadlet (or chad) to have any of those statusmaxxing or 99.99% face. If that were the case, every chad would be in Hollywood.


Yeah, we all know that to be true. But what does it mean? Are you saying that just because height is more prevalent that it has lesser value? I would actually argue the opposite way, that evolutionarily speaking height has MORE value since evolution has selected for height to be much more prevalent in the population as compared to good faces (more people are tall than the number of good-looking people). And the argument for that is simple: height gives off protector instincts. And foids have a visceral need for a protector.


It's actually the opposite. Tall people on the site who might not get lays would actually say face > height.

here I tell you that it is the face that makes a career and not the height, in relationships it is the same (I am not talking about a dead height like 160cm (which represents less than 1% in Europe)

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Are you stupid or what? This video shows their face, not their height (at no time do we see their bodies) and even with 170cm they would be here, they would not be a model like delon (because you have to be tall), but an actor (like delon)

Sub 6ft is manlet. I was making the point that even manlets can be aesthetic. But now you're throwing numbers at me like 170cm (5'7) which is turbo-manlet.

It's possible for a turbo-manlet to succeed but he needs at least a HTN FACE and to get lucky.

 

[attarde75]

So you're saying that every IRL chad has a PSL god level face? And their experiences should be the same as the PSL gods? There are probably 1M times more chads (+chadlets) than the number of PSL gods, and they are the ones I am talking about.
PSL Gods, and Hollywood chadlets literally implies that their faces were so much top-tier that they were able to escape their height (not really because they have to heightfraud them in movies)

You didn't understand my message, I'm telling you that girls get a hard-on for a face, not a height. (height is still important, but without a face you are nothing)

 

[attarde75]

Sub 6ft is manlet. I was making the point that even manlets can be aesthetic. But now you're throwing numbers at me like 170cm (5'7) which is turbo-manlet.

It's possible for a turbo-manlet to succeed but he needs at least a HTN FACE and to get lucky.

walk down the street my friend.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

walk down the street my friend.

I walk down the street and see lanklet domination. Anyone 6'3+ with a normie FACE can't lose.

 

[attarde75]

I walk down the street and see lanklet domination. Anyone 6'3+ with a normie FACE can't lose.

girls will always say "omg I want a big one" (yes a big one obviously, but beautiful). When she sees 190cm 4/10, don't worry she won't go for it. 5/10 yes probably, or not because it's still "normal" but big.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

girls will always say "omg I want a big one" (yes a big one obviously, but beautiful). When she sees 190cm 4/10, don't worry she won't go for it. 5/10 yes probably, or not because it's still "normal" but big.

Yeah, I'm not talking about lanklets with a subhuman-tier FACE. I'm saying 50-60 percentile facially and lanklet (6'3+) can't lose.

 

[attarde75]

Yeah, I'm not talking about lanklets with a subhuman-tier FACE. I'm saying 50-60 percentile facially and lanklet (6'3+) can't lose.

190cm 5/10 will lose against 175cm 7/10. in any case in France, in your country I don't know, but here I hear all day long girls saying "omg he's too beautiful" or on the contrary "he's too ugly")

 

[attarde75]

190cm 5/10 will lose against 175cm 7/10. in any case in France, in your country I don't know, but here I hear all day long girls saying "omg he's too beautiful" or on the contrary "he's too ugly")

maybe even 6/10...

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

190cm 5/10 will lose against 175cm 7/10. in any case in France, in your country I don't know, but here I hear all day long girls saying "omg he's too beautiful" or on the contrary "he's too ugly")

Yh there is a big difference between a 7/10 FACE and a 5/10, but factoring in height I would say they are about the same SMV. The thing is, I reckon the 7/10 facially would have better-looking options but not as much quantity as the lanklet.

Basically, height is a disqualifier for the type of girl with height requirements. And in the age of social media, a lot of girls' have height requirements. The 5/10 lanklet will struggle to get a 7/10 girl, but he'll likely have some options in the 5-6 range. The manlet with a good FACE will have a smaller pool of options, but those options will be higher quality because of his 7/10 FACE.

 

[Deleted member 6305]

In that PSL gods video

Chico: 6'3
Gandy: 6'2
Dellisolla: 6'1.5 (height listed by agency, likely at least an inch shorter irl. Barrett listed as 6'2)
O'Pry: 5'11.5 (according to celebheights, not height listed by model agency)
Barrett: 5'11 (according to celebheights, not height listed by model agency)
Delon: 5'9

Lol
Chico is 6'1 Handy probably 6ft Opry is 5'10 and barret 5'10 too

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

190cm 5/10 will lose against 175cm 7/10. in any case in France, in your country I don't know, but here I hear all day long girls saying "omg he's too beautiful" or on the contrary "he's too ugly")

Yeah yeah that's true. I am though talking about tall HTN... which is 7/10 face... against a chadlet (height percentile < 50)

 

[attarde75]

Yh there is a big difference between a 7/10 FACE and a 5/10, but factoring in height I would say they are about the same SMV. The thing is, I reckon the 7/10 facially would have better-looking options but not as much quantity as the lanklet.

Basically, height is a disqualifier for the type of girl with height requirements. And in the age of social media, a lot of girls' have height requirements. The 5/10 lanklet will struggle to get a 7/10 girl, but he'll likely have some options in the 5-6 range. The manlet with a good FACE will have a smaller pool of options, but those options will be higher quality because of his 7/10 FACE.

I think it's the opposite, the rise of the network (photo with her boyfriend, promotes the search for the beautiful face). On the internet you hardly notice the height, but not the face.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Lol
Chico is 6'1 Handy probably 6ft Opry is 5'10 and barret 5'10 too

Chico is not 6'1.

Not only does he height mog in every photo, but his proportions seem taller than 185.

Definitely in 6'3 range.

 

[Deleted member 18917]

I walk down the street and see lanklet domination. Anyone 6'3+ with a normie FACE can't lose.

MAJOR LIFEFUEL FOR ME, I'm 6'3 rn at 15 and a normie, could probably easily get to 6'5 HTN

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

2. Or, most women are not confident enough to actually go and talk to a chad, and they get intimidated.
The second might seem like cope, but it may actually be true, since even observing from my own behavior, I was giga-shy about making eye contact with foids when I was a high-inhib manlet povertycel. Tall HTN people seem easier to talk to. Even as men, we always try to go near the taller members of a group.

So nobody believed this part of my argument?

 

[Br0sk1]

So nobody believed this part of my argument?

It could be true. The tall guy you saw might effectively be an oofy doofy to women seeking a cowardly, unattractive guy with nothing going for him who will let his gf be the alpha and be willing to be her lapdog.

Alternatively, if he was very shy, maybe some people were just trying to show some empathy and wanted to try to get him out of his shell?

 

[johncruz12345]

I'm a 6ft4 manlet, and get mogged by taller guys.

 

[TalkingVidya]

It has always been. Is the reason why 80/20 rule is a meme outside dating apps.

 

[Growth Plate]

6'2 post here

that's because they're fucking ugly facially, dude
you still have to have a decent face with good height to not be disgusting

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

It could be true. The tall guy you saw might effectively be an oofy doofy to women seeking a cowardly, unattractive guy with nothing going for him who will let his gf be the alpha and be willing to be her lapdog.

What percentage of women do you think are like that? Does it vary by ethnicity?
Because this may be actually counter to the hypergamy argument.

 

[Br0sk1]

What percentage of women do you think are like that? Does it vary by ethnicity?
Because this may be actually counter to the hypergamy argument.

Oofy doofy theory is a partial counter to the hypergamy argument.

Not sure the percentage of women who are like this. I think White women are more likely to want an oofy doofy, then maybe East Asians next. East Asian men are typically oofy doofies by default (almost impossible to be a Chad with Asian traits), so this might be an ancient evolutionary strategy for Asian men.

Another contingent of women still wants the highest LMS men they can get.

Guys who are tall MTNs/HTNs and maybe guys who are properly GL but short I think tend to end up in looks purgatory, where their looks and other attributes typically make them too attractive/threatening to appeal to the oofy doofy-oriented women, but not attractive enough for the women who want the high LMS guys.

Kudos to @6ft4 for coming up with the looks purgatory concept, or at least naming it and fleshing it out.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

You didn't understand my message, I'm telling you that girls get a hard-on for a face, not a height. (height is still important, but without a face you are nothing)

No obviously, and nobody is claiming that just your height will get you results if you are less than HTN facially.
Similarly, being chad/chadlite facially, but being less than average height is also not going to get you any results.

To make up for any single deficit in terms of face/height, you have to be exceptional in the other one. Somewhat below average height, better be near 99% facially (Tom Holland, Cruise), somewhat below average facially better be 99%+ height wise (Marko Jaric). These results may only apply when deficiencies are not too far below average. (maybe 1 stddev?). If you are too far below in one aspect, your life will be hell, and no way you will be able to make up for it with other things.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

East Asian men are typically oofy doofies by default (almost impossible to be a Chad with Asian traits), so this might be an ancient evolutionary strategy for Asian men.

A strategy sure, but not evolutionarily. Obviously EA men are not oofy-doofied by EA women. In their own culture, they still are the patriarchy. It has become a strategy only now when different races have intermingled.

Guys who are tall MTNs/HTNs and maybe guys who are properly GL but short I think tend to end up in looks purgatory, where their looks and other attributes typically make them too attractive/threatening to appeal to the oofy doofy-oriented women, but not attractive enough for the women who want the high LMS guys.

So SMV wise, these people would be considered 'normies' not good, not bad. Since I am 100% sure that the majority of people (foids, men) are not either high-LMS-seekers, nor oofy-doofy seekers, the majority of the population is in looks purgatory, which means they have to put efforts to get mates.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat]

It could be true. The tall guy you saw might effectively be an oofy doofy to women seeking a cowardly, unattractive guy with nothing going for him who will let his gf be the alpha and be willing to be her lapdog.

I think stacylites are somewhat still insecure because they don't really are stacies, and yet still have some failos? Like a bad nose, acne, etc.?

And in terms of the looks purgatory argument, some foids would be considered normie SMV wise since they lack might be above average in one thing, but lacking in other things. Think short stacies / tall beckies. Don't consider this an argument though, I am just thinking out loud.

Alternatively, if he was very shy, maybe some people were just trying to show some empathy and wanted to try to get him out of his shell?

So, on similar lines, since I was being energetic, and trying to be the life of the party, people should have tried to get closer to me? Just a plausible diametrically opposite situation from what you described.

P.S.: At least give reacts guys.

 

[TYRONELITEMOGGER]

As a tall normie i can confirm