The theory that everything is predetermined

Genetics are technically a component of the environment. But within the scope of this discussion, the environment is every factor outside of the genetic baseline. So yes, everything is determined on the basis of genetics and environment.
In this case, environment = nature?

So it has nothing to do with social environment, more like how the climate and landscape is and how it affects the lifes of people (for example, natural disasters).
 
this guy literally trusts every basement dweller who makes fantastic stories from rank of J.K. Rowlings. When the OP was 8, he definitely got into cars for a lollipop.

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Wtf Maher GOAT looked good and wasn't autistic, why you wouldn't believe him.
 
Living is a waste of time because it has no purpose, everything you do is a waste of time nig
 
Even if this is true, what difference will it make? You will have to strive anyway to achieve your goals
 
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Even if this is true, what difference will it make? You will have to strive anyway to achieve your goals
It doesn't make any difference in what you have to do in life, but it can change your mental state to know it.
 
Yeah bro, ever since the big bang everything is completely determined by the laws of physics. Just sit back, relax, and try to enjoy the ride. It's not your fault.
Well I think relaxing would be a good idea. But I still don't fully believe in determinism, and even if it's true it would be sad to know that you were destined to live a mediocre (or even horrible) life.
 
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Brain is literally a machine with outputs based on the inputs. It's all physics, the motion of particles after the big bang can be predicted ad infinitum, we're no exception. The only thing that might disprove determinism is the randomness of quantum mechanics. Either way we dont have free will
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Cope theory. While genetics determine aspects of your personality, enviroment also plays a large role. The idea that everything is predetermined is pure delusion. You have limited control over your life. To say that you have complete control over your life is cope and to say everything is predetermined is cope. The only people that will say their life is pre-determined is losers who want to coast through life or LDAR. The only people that will say that you have complete control over your life is sccessful people. They will have a combination of good genetics and/or enviroment. Or brainwashed self help cucks, but I don't want to talk about them.

In theory there is alot of things you could do, but other people/circumstance have a large effect on your life.

Examples of things within your control:
> Deciding who your friends with
> Taking care of your body
> Effort in performing tasks

Examples of things outside of your control
> Natrual Disasters
> Man made accidents
> Genetics

I think you should have the mindset that you have full control over your life. This is a healthy mindset provided you don't beat yourself up for your mistakes.

In conclusion I think your insane if you truly believe in genetic determinism. There are far to many external factors effecting your life to believe everything is predetermined.
 
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Genetics decides your future. Your genetics = your limits. The way you interpret information, your actions, all determined by your genetics.
Genetics plus the place and time when you are born. An ogre could live like a king in prehistoric time and could live like hell today.
 
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Idk if you remember him, but there was an user here called MaherGOAT who deleted his account a time ago. He supported the theory that everything in universe is predetermined. This theory is called "Superdeterminism."

On one hand, it feels scary. It means everything you do is predetermined, all results, everything. You are not in control of anything. But on the other hand, it feels a little bit like someone took away the blame of you. If everything was predetermined, it was not your fault that you ended up in this forum, and how your life has turned out in general.

So I think it's scary but comforting at the same time. Your future is already written (scary). It will not depend on what you do, it will depend on what the universe has decided long time ago will happen (comforting). But maybe this is cope and the future is not decided and we are to blame if we fuck it up ...
its not called superdeterminism its just called determinism lmao
 
God is cope.
Predeterminism is actually more proof of God and not against him. The idea that everything from the beginning to the end is completely determined by physically set laws is coherent with the Bible.
 
Nazis are not against the rich they are actually against jews, which are mostly rich

Hitler, Mussolini etc all fascist leaders are just puppets used by the rich to save capitalism from a social revolution, when the economy is bad the masses revolt against the elites, so its necessary to find an ideology that protects the workers a little bit more but still maintains the status quo and big business exploitation, thats what is called nazism
the elites are mostly jewish

any meaningful pointed and specific critique of the elites must therefore be antisemitic

this is why antisemitism is demonized so hard in all the propaganda since ww11 despite every intelligent person for the last two thousand years being antisemitic

anti fascism is the elite cope not fascism

elites protect themselves by advocating for the only meaningful critique of 'capitalism' AKA their power being Fabian socialism or LARP muh peoples revolution man workers of the world unite man

national socialism was a legitimate threat to international bankers and transnational cosmopolitan class and that's why it was crushed from all sides and demonized as the worst most evilest thing ever

the masses have never and will never spontaneously 'revolt against the elites'

the masses are retarded

they require inspiration and leadership by great men

it has always and will always be so
 
I occasionally have dreams that predict the future.

I obviously keep this to myself or only talk about it anonymously because people will think I am schizo even though I have experienced things which indisputably prove this ability. It's not just me who has this, my grandfather's brother had it and my brother gets them occasionally. He used that ability during WW2 to avoid dying (would get up in the middle of the night and get his platoon to rearrange their positions and then see the position they were just in get shelled by artillery).

I didn't know my brother got them but he recently told me he did, and it allowed him to make a 10x on a random crypto pump ($20k -> $200k).

It's not in our control what we see so don't ask me to predict specific stock/crypto movements. I can tell you there will be a hyperinflation panic and a gold bull market but it will get cut short by some major news announcement (interest rate hike?).

There will also be a coin that flips Bitcoin and I'm pretty sure it's Avalanche (AVAX) which I have been holding since $5.

They are never super clear because how it works is I experience a short moment in time (5 seconds or less) sometime in the future. Often they are very mundane and I get them pretty infrequently (once or twice a year).

I should also mention that that appears to be the same as what this book describes although I haven't read it yet.
You’re a wizard Harry
JFL at these comments. The humor on .org is great.
 
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No, it's a theory based on quantum mechanics, and this theory is called Superdeterminism.
no its not

its a millenia old philosophical position called determinism

'superdeterminism' is gay physicist jargon to dazzle midwits
 
Cope theory. While genetics determine aspects of your personality, enviroment also plays a large role. The idea that everything is predetermined is pure delusion. You have limited control over your life. To say that you have complete control over your life is cope and to say everything is predetermined is cope. The only people that will say their life is pre-determined is losers who want to coast through life or LDAR. The only people that will say that you have complete control over your life is sccessful people. They will have a combination of good genetics and/or enviroment. Or brainwashed self help cucks, but I don't want to talk about them.

In theory there is alot of things you could do, but other people/circumstance have a large effect on your life.

Examples of things within your control:
> Deciding who your friends with
> Taking care of your body
> Effort in performing tasks

Examples of things outside of your control
> Natrual Disasters
> Man made accidents
> Genetics

I think you should have the mindset that you have full control over your life. This is a healthy mindset provided you don't beat yourself up for your mistakes.

In conclusion I think your insane if you truly believe in genetic determinism. There are far to many external factors effecting your life to believe everything is predetermined.
Good comment.

No one should use anything to justify LDAR, these theories are just interesting but shouldn't affect your life, especially the motivation for self-improvement. And I also do think that superdeterminism is not really proven, so it's totally possible that the future is not already written.
 
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Lack of pussy made you all philosophers lmao
 
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Lack of pussy made you all philosophers lmao
Tbh ngl. Sexual starvation changes you 😂😂. Tbh most philosphers are people with to much free time. Most people are too busy living in the moment to think about life this way.
 
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Brain is literally a machine with outputs based on the inputs. It's all physics, the motion of particles after the big bang can be predicted ad infinitum, we're no exception. The only thing that might disprove determinism is the randomness of quantum mechanics. Either way we dont have free will
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I believe that free will dosen't exist. the universe i think is mostly deterministic with a bit of randomness at the quantum level. check out Sam harris, his book on free will is a good read
 
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In this case, environment = nature?

So it has nothing to do with social environment, more like how the climate and landscape is and how it affects the lifes of people (for example, natural disasters).
You're trying to specify environment. Again, it's every influence outside of the genetic baseline.
 
Can anyone explain what this guy meant?
 

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