The Truth About HGH

[stufftodo]

Exogenous HGH, despite being incredibly useful, isn't the best way to maximize IGF1 response like many guides frame in their posts.

There are three mains reasons for this:

1. Exogenous HGH circulates hepatically, which means in the liver, and not in bones/tissues that are needed for developmental anabolism.
2. Exogenous HGH upregulates metabolic genes that inhibit and blunts GH signaling
3. Exogenous HGH doesn't match up with environmental growth factors such as cortisol, somastatin, insulin, or GHRH activity, meaning the effects don't favor protein synthesis needed for development.

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In this case, wouldn't it be better to use GH secretagogues that trigger actual developmental anabolism?

However, taking purely CJC+Ipa as a teen doesn't lower somastatin enough for it to be worth the exchange in IGF1 levels compared to HGH, so it's also recommended to take Huperzine A and Tesamorelin for optimal effects.

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i'm still looking for a full stack for this so pls share your findings

 

[202]

 

[chromednash]

yea bro yea

 

[Blameyblamey]

Exogenous HGH, despite being incredibly useful, isn't the best way to maximize IGF1 response like many guides frame in their posts.

There are three mains reasons for this:

1. Exogenous HGH circulates hepatically, which means in the liver, and not in bones/tissues that are needed for developmental anabolism.
2. Exogenous HGH upregulates metabolic genes that inhibit and blunts GH signaling
3. Exogenous HGH doesn't match up with environmental growth factors such as cortisol, somastatin, insulin, or GHRH activity, meaning the effects don't favor protein synthesis needed for development.

---

In this case, wouldn't it be better to use GH secretagogues that trigger actual developmental anabolism?

However, taking purely CJC+Ipa as a teen doesn't lower somastatin enough for it to be worth the exchange in IGF1 levels compared to HGH, so it's also recommended to take Huperzine A and Tesamorelin for optimal effects.

^
i'm still looking for a full stack for this so pls share your findings

bro comparing gh secretagogues with actual hgh

 

[stufftodo]

yea bro yea

Is it not true?

 

[weepmeep]

stupid bullshit

 

[stufftodo]

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if you look at anecdotes on old forums like lookism/pua or even on .com people got close to the same igf1 levels with secretagogues as 8ius of hgh

the hgh back then prolly wasn't as good as today since ugls were shit but its worth noting

studies on pralmorelin also found that it reached 2/3 of the same igf1 activity as exogenous hgh at the same hormonal activity

 

[stufftodo]

stupid bullshit

all of these are true findings and is basic physiology :7

 

[LTNUser]

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Thought it was a real food for a moment

 

[202]

Thought it was a real food for a moment

youve never had copemeal? must not bonesmash either normie

 

[stufftodo]

Thought it was a real food for a moment

igf1 is kinda cope by itself either way, even if you take an ai you need to pin 7ius to get good results

wrong reply

 

[miloeatscookies]

good read not a massive wall of text but gets the message across finally

 

[stufftodo]

youve never had copemeal? must not bonesmash either normie

doesn't @enchantedelixir promote bonesmashing

you should read his threads on it, but i'm not saying it works

 

[202]

doesn't @enchantedelixir promote bonesmashing

you should read his threads on it, but i'm not saying it works

anyone that promotes bonesmashing for any reason other than temporary swelling and does not cover the horrendous downsides capable of coming from it are just trying to take advantage of normies and should not be taken seriously

 

[stufftodo]

anyone that promotes bonesmashing for any reason other than temporary swelling and does not cover the horrendous downsides capable of coming from it are just trying to take advantage of normies and should not be taken seriously

yeah i agree with that, enchanted is legit though. hes the reason why 80% of the og looksmaxxers was bonesmashing because he made good guides before

you should read some of his stuff, but i believe in the mechanostrat theory more than bonesmashing or wtv

 

[stufftodo]

@202

this should be useful for understanding mechanostrat

puts a lot of refs there too, good guide imo

it doesn't cover the theory itself by frost but crossplays into it

 

[202]

@202

this should be useful for understanding mechanostrat

puts a lot of refs there too, good guide imo

it doesn't cover the theory itself by frost but crossplays into it

ill look into it later thanks

 

[LTNUser]

doesn't @enchantedelixir promote bonesmashing

you should read his threads on it, but i'm not saying it works

@enchanted_elixir