The Ultimate pubertymaxxing guide, an introduction into androgens and growth factors, and how to apply them.

wastedspermcel said:
Fr? What website are you on maybe I'm bugging
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They do have the powder but that’s long.
 
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DHT/dht gel is worthless garbage that doesn't work

Inject testosterone and focus on building a good physique, do PE on the side too because that isn't cope, unlike DHT.
 
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9898 said:
DHT/dht gel is worthless garbage that doesn't work

Inject testosterone and focus on building a good physique, do PE on the side too because that isn't cope, unlike DHT.
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I'm guessing you also saw no results when you used the 'DIY' dht gel right?
 
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9898 said:
DHT/dht gel is worthless garbage that doesn't work

Inject testosterone and focus on building a good physique, do PE on the side too because that isn't cope, unlike DHT.
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wtf dyrotic is back? Jfl
season 6 episode 13 GIF


I came to the conclusion a while ago that dht with an ester is a myth (none of you faggots are going to pin 2x a day with dht suspension either so don’t bring it up) so the 2nd best thing you can really do is another heavy androgen like Tren/mast but not abuse the amount it because that’s where you get fucked up big time.

Low dose tren + low dose test + mast year round seems to be next best to pinning dht and maybe even better if you exclude the sides. Gh too.

Jfl it really is water at the end just a normal ttm stack was the only thing needed all along.

Orals too ofc but those are all cycled so not really the same.
 
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Moggable said:
wtf dyrotic is back? Jfl
season 6 episode 13 GIF


I came to the conclusion a while ago that dht with an ester is a myth (none of you faggots are going to pin 2x a day with dht suspension either so don’t bring it up) so the 2nd best thing you can really do is another heavy androgen like Tren/mast but not abuse the amount it because that’s where you get fucked up big time.

Low dose tren + low dose test + mast year round seems to be next best to pinning dht and maybe even better if you exclude the sides. Gh too.

Jfl it really is water at the end just a normal ttm stack was the only thing needed all along.

Orals too ofc but those are all cycled so not really the same.
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At least someone replied, right now I’m running mast and test at a 3:2 ratio, surely this won’t replicate the androgenic effects of DHT? Or am I wrong?
 
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halloweed said:
At least someone replied, right now I’m running mast and test at a 3:2 ratio, surely this won’t replicate the androgenic effects of DHT? Or am I wrong?
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100x Better than nothing and still will produce great gains but to put it simply, 5-10% of all your test is converted to dht.

So a male producing 50mg test a week which is around avg gets 2.5-5mg dht a week and a male pinning 200mg a week gets 10-20mg dht a week (not even counting ester weight so even less)…

dht can come in doses of 50-100mg a week upwards. Insane really jfl. Normal 500mg test that comes with water retention and having to manage estrogen doesn’t even get the same dht gains
 
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I read it now and its a good thread but im to reatrded to understand it:feelswhy:
 
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Chadius said:
One of the best posts on this forum, sad that basically no one in that age range can afford it especially while hiding it from parents.


Here you have the result of a Steroid cycle on a 17-year-old, he admitted to test but deleted it.

@Dyorotic2 u should include it in your post as proof
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Sadly real…:feelswah: but I’ll make enough money to do this for my kids in the future
 
Dyorotic said:
I made this thread. A deeply misguided 17 year old with a Wikipedia tier understanding of pharmacology & endocrinology

I did do almost everything though and whether or not I grew to 6ft2 due to gh/peptides/androgens is completely unfalsifiable.

I will say one thing though, all of this shit was insanely hard to source back in 2020. With Janoshik and QSC it's basically the golden era of generics. Growth has never been cheaper and higher quality before EVER.

Probably the most reliable way to grow for longer as a teenager would be via E2 suppression (whether that's through receptor modulation or aromatase inhibition) and keeping mTOR, Pi3k & other anabolic pathways open.

If you're going to use growth you NEED ancillaries that abate the inevitable insulin desensitization. This is something I didn't do back in 2020-2021 because I was reckless. GLP1 agonists are single-handedly the best insulin sensitizing agents, but they'll make it near impossible to get down the correct amount of calories required for growth (half-life & potency). There are short acting GLP1 agonists, but they're almost impossible to source (ideally you'd take it during sleep). Metformin is the obvious choice (inhibits gluconeogenesis, increases peripheral glucose uptake and utilization and drastically decreases glucose absorption from the intestines) and in conjunction with Growth hormone it'll actually INCREASE igf-1. Peroxisome proliferator receptor (PPARα, PPARγ, and PPARβ/δ) agonists may help too. Don't use SGLT-2 inhibitors.

If you can't afford growth then use CJC and hexarelin (you need metformin still) and also run pyridostigmine to negate somatostatin.

Don't use MK677 unless you want diabetes. IGF analogues aren't good and are honestly just pure cosmetics.

IN all seriousness though, the likelyhood of any of this working for height is very slim. Growth Hormone is fun because it'll destroy fat and you can bulk whilst simultaneously shedding bf%, it's just that strong at inducing lypolisis. GH also allows you to push the dosage on gear way higher and the nutrient partioning you get with Gear, GH & metformin is next level.

My advice would be to just accept your height and maximise your body with gear in your 20s. Also wear sunscreen and use a retinoid (tazarotene mogs)
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wdym by with glp1 agonists you cannot get down the proper amount of calories? I’m currently using it alongside ghrelin peptides to increase appetite but get the insulin sensitivity aspect of glp1s. Can you further explain this. metformin lowers igf1 and i heard it’s shit in other aspects and i don’t wanna toy around with random trace minerals. I have access to metformin but dk if i take that or something like a glp1. My current stack is hgh, t3/t4, gh peptides, adex and some other miscellaneous things. I’ve grown .75-1 inches in like a month to a month and a half. 17 atm with slightly open growth plates
 
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Do you expect us to purchase growth hormone as a 15 year old teenager and inject ourselves?
 
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halloweed said:
Some guy here was advertising them so that’s why I’m weary, plus they only accept crypto payment through email.
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I ordered androsterone and DHEA gel from them. I was scared at first after sending BTC, but after 1 day I got the order confirmation, took about 5 weeks to come, and passed customs without a problem.
 
Dyorotic said:
DHT/dht gel is worthless garbage that doesn't work

Inject testosterone and focus on building a good physique, do PE on the side too because that isn't cope, unlike DHT.
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you still think that DSIP is good? I researched also and could not find any side effects(except the normal like headaches or injection-wise side effects..) I wanna try it as it seems like one of the safest things you can do.. i also planning on hopping on HGH.. but for now no test or DHT, only topical androsterone + DHEA and oral DHEA and progesterone + proviron + health supps..
 
sexgod said:
Do you expect us to purchase growth hormone as a 15 year old teenager and inject ourselves?
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I’m using hgh since 14, expensive af but it does work when used correctly
 
intresting, i am 15 and is late to puberty I’ve been told injecting will stop my own production of the hormones is that true and if not why are people saying that?
 
Adamz said:
intresting, i am 15 and is late to puberty I’ve been told injecting will stop my own production of the hormones is that true and if not why are people saying that?
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why tf yo ass injecting do you wanan die at 15 you fucking retard
 
Adamz said:
intresting, i am 15 and is late to puberty I’ve been told injecting will stop my own production of the hormones is that true and if not why are people saying that?
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it will comeback when you stop
for now start injecting hgh then at 16 roids
 
craven said:
it will comeback when you stop
for now start injecting hgh then at 16 roids
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Bro it seems a bit extreme to inject at 15 when I’m not even fully into puberty and I don’t want to risk it. Do you have any other advice that is not as extreme as injecting?
 
Adamz said:
Bro it seems a bit extreme to inject at 15 when I’m not even fully into puberty and I don’t want to risk it. Do you have any other advice that is not as extreme as injecting?
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just take mk677 and enclomiphene if u dont wanna inject and an AI if ur growth plates are still open and dont want to close them
 
Adamz said:
Bro it seems a bit extreme to inject at 15 when I’m not even fully into puberty and I don’t want to risk it. Do you have any other advice that is not as extreme as injecting?
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hgh wont do shit to you, the best age for it is 14-15
for roids its 16
 
Adamz said:
If I decide to do it would I have to do anything else like aromatase inhibitors etc?
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if u take mk677 alone no
but if u add in enclomiphene id recommend so u dont close ur growth plates
 
Light Triad Mogger said:
i would for facial dimorphism and wider clavicles
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Alr can you please tell me the worst downsides of this but also what it helps with? I’m very new to this forum joined today and I feel like I’m lost in the jungle
 
Adamz said:
Alr can you please tell me the worst downsides of this but also what it helps with? I’m very new to this forum joined today and I feel like I’m lost in the jungle
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yes but 99% chance u wont get many or any at all

enclomiphene:
gyno
headaches
hairloss (could happen if u have the gene for it)
bloating (expected)
really just sides of high test or estrogen

mk677:
bloating
reduced insulin sensitivity
diabetes (dont think this has ever had anyone)
brain damage possibly if abusing it

as long as ur not abusing u will be fine
 
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