Theologicla question for christians on .org

[trvechud]

Why do lot's daughters commit incest with him
@PrinceLuenLeoncur @greycel

 

[trvechud]

And why doesn't god punish them

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Why do lot's daughters commit incest with him
@PrinceLuenLeoncur @greycel

They thought there was no more men left they didn’t for pragmatic reasons not because they were vile whores.

Also back then if the Bible is true once again if your going off our theology you have to entertain our paradigm then back then humans weren’t as impure in terms of our genes thefore inbreeding lacked the same level of genetic defects it causes today


Very simple answer


God doesn’t punish them because he knows their pragmatic reasons for what they did was out of ignorance and idiocy. If god punished them he’d be a prick for punishing ignorant girls who don’t know shit

 

[trvechud]

They thought there was no more men left they didn’t for pragmatic reasons not because they were vile whores.

Also back then if the Bible is true once again if your going off our theology you have to entertain our paradigm then back then humans weren’t as impure in terms of our genes thefore inbreeding lacked the same level of genetic defects it causes today


Very simple answer


God doesn’t punish them because he knows their pragmatic reasons for what they did was out of ignorance and idiocy. If god punished them he’d be a prick for punishing ignorant girls who don’t know shit

What part of the bible says genes were more purr back then? I wanna research more on this. Also what does impure mean? That we got mixed with other species or that our dna is a worse quality

 

[greycel]

They thought there was no more men left they didn’t for pragmatic reasons not because they were vile whores.

Also back then if the Bible is true once again if your going off our theology you have to entertain our paradigm then back then humans weren’t as impure in terms of our genes thefore inbreeding lacked the same level of genetic defects it causes today


Very simple answer


God doesn’t punish them because he knows their pragmatic reasons for what they did was out of ignorance and idiocy. If god punished them he’d be a prick for punishing ignorant girls who don’t know shit

Never understood punishment in religion.

You are the result of your genes and direct and indirect environment, so your genes and environment.. both of which are out of your control (from birth).
Take a psychopath for example. His brain chemistry prevented him from living a more moral life
Now take a person who has favourable brain chemistry, yet was born in an extremist camp, surrounded by immorality or a black kid born into a gang family in the projects, surrounded by degeneracy

God would be punishing the unlucky if he is punishing.. simultaneously rewarding the lucky

It makes more intuitive sense that life follows karmic principles, where whatever bad that does occur is to make up for negative karma.. a way to purify the soul
Life is a purification system, and maybe you cannot complete it in 1.
Which would explain why some people are allowed more favourable life's than others (are further through their soul progression)

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

What part of the bible says genes were more purr back then? I wanna research more on this. Also what does impure mean? That we got mixed with other species or that our dna is a worse quality

wtf haven’t you read Adam and Eve… they fucked yenno that right? And after fucking guess what they had kids and their kids had to fuck each other but no generic defects were recorded so yeah that’s where I got it from

Never understood punishment in religion.

You are the result of your genes and direct and indirect environment, so your genes and environment.. both of which are out of your control (from birth).
Take a psychopath for example. His brain chemistry prevented him from living a more moral life
Now take a person who has favourable brain chemistry, yet was born in an extremist camp, surrounded by immorality or a black kid born into a gang family in the projects, surrounded by degeneracy

God would be punishing the unlucky if he is punishing.. simultaneously rewarding the lucky

It makes more intuitive sense that life follows karmic principles, where whatever bad that does occur is to make up for negative karma.. a way to purify the soul
Life is a purification system, and maybe you cannot complete it in 1.
Which would explain why some people are allowed more favourable life's than others (are further through their soul progression)

Yeah that’s why gods a just judge he judges you fairly not everybody gets judges the same this is simply common sense and what our religion Teaches

 

[greycel]

wtf haven’t you read Adam and Eve… they fucked yenno that right? And after fucking guess what they had kids and their kids had to fuck each other but no generic defects were recorded so yeah that’s where I got it from


Yeah that’s why gods a just judge he judges you fairly not everybody gets judges the same this is simply common sense and what our religion Teaches

I'm saying what are you judging?
You're judging the actions of a person that are out of their control
Say the second you are born, and you turn 1 second old
Any actions you did in that 1 second was the result of the environment in that 1s

You cried as you exited your mother, because there was Oxygen in the room for you to breathe + an infinite number of other factors within that 1 second, resulted in you acting how you did

Now stretch this idea where ever second, millisecond, microsecond, nanosecond - smallest increment in time is the result of your previous actions, that were the result of your previous environment, that was the result of your previous actions, that was the result of an even more earlier environment...

Now say we have two boys and they went through the exact same environment from birth, to the exact same atom... well they would still have marginally different actions that snowball to different futures, all because their brain chemistry/ physical proportions were fundamentally different - due to genes

So explain to me how somebody can be punished or rewarded for a system completely involving luck?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I'm saying what are you judging?
You're judging the actions of a person that are out of their control
Say the second you are born, and you turn 1 second old
Any actions you did in that 1 second was the result of the environment in that 1s

You cried as you exited your mother, because there was Oxygen in the room for you to breathe + an infinite number of other factors within that 1 second, resulted in you acting how you did

Now stretch this idea where ever second, millisecond, microsecond, nanosecond - smallest increment in time is the result of your previous actions, that were the result of your previous environment, that was the result of your previous actions, that was the result of an even more earlier environment...

Now say we have two boys and they went through the exact same environment from birth, to the exact same atom... well they would still have marginally different actions that snowball to different futures, all because their brain chemistry was fundamentally different - due to genes

So explain to me how somebody can be punished or rewarded for a system completely involving luck?

By god understanding this and judging you fairly based on such things wtf question is this

The answer is in the first answer I gave you

 

[greycel]

By god understanding this and judging you fairly based on such things wtf question is this

The answer is in the first answer I gave you

You're repeating this but you're not explaining anything
I asked how does God judge you fairly if both genes and environment cause your actions, that are out of your control.. and you reply with by God "judging you fairly"

??

 

[trvechud]

Never understood punishment in religion.

You are the result of your genes and direct and indirect environment, so your genes and environment.. both of which are out of your control (from birth).
Take a psychopath for example. His brain chemistry prevented him from living a more moral life
Now take a person who has favourable brain chemistry, yet was born in an extremist camp, surrounded by immorality or a black kid born into a gang family in the projects, surrounded by degeneracy

God would be punishing the unlucky if he is punishing.. simultaneously rewarding the lucky

It makes more intuitive sense that life follows karmic principles, where whatever bad that does occur is to make up for negative karma.. a way to purify the soul
Life is a purification system, and maybe you cannot complete it in 1.
Which would explain why some people are allowed more favourable life's than others (are further through their soul progression)

I knwo that this is form a normie movie but I think this scene explains why you can't blame your environment for you doing bad things

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

You're repeating this but you're not explaining anything
I asked how does God judge you fairly if both genes and environment cause your actions, that are out of your control.. and you reply with by God "judging you fairly"

??

How tf would I know


God knows past present and future he knows what you would had done in a parallel universe if situations were changed he knows what you think before you think it and you more than you know your own self he’s literally omniscient how tf would I know how that works I’m not omniscient so I dunno how he will go about judging but I can say it will be fair because he’s a fair judge

 

[trvechud]

wtf haven’t you read Adam and Eve… they fucked yenno that right? And after fucking guess what they had kids and their kids had to fuck each other but no generic defects were recorded so yeah that’s where I got it from

Weren't there distinct peoples by the time of noah though? Or did they get genetic divergence by having cousins fuck instead of siblings

 

[greycel]

I knwo that this is form a normie movie but I think this scene explains why you can't blame your environment for you doing bad things

It looks like a good film, I used to see it on shorts a year back.. I might watch it.
But it doesn't explain why, all it says about this is when you stand before God you cannot use the excuse "but he made me do as such"
He's telling something but not explaining

Also I haven't seen anybody make the point I've made before, so I'm doubtful if anybody has revealed a valid counter to it online

 

[greycel]

How tf would I know


God knows past present and future he knows what you would had done in a parallel universe if situations were changed he knows what you think before you think it and you more than you know your own self he’s literally omniscient how tf would I know how that works I’m not omniscient so I dunno how he will go about judging but I can say it will be fair because he’s a fair judge

You're working backwards though
But think about it.. logically it does not make any sense

How is he fairly judging if in the other parallel Universes you went through different environments
A butterfly flapping it's wings can cause a tornado on the other side of the world

Imagine infinite number of factors that exist to create the total environment for you, in every smallest increment of time...

Your decisions are not yours

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Weren't there distinct peoples by the time of noah though? Or did they get genetic divergence by having cousins fuck instead of siblings

Dunno the science of it so I won’t try it plain but I assume it’s stn like that over time the effects of the fall became more present in our genes via mutations etc