theory to building bones in face potentially groundbreaking

[FinallyAscended]

To increase bone size we have to increase osteoblasts activity to do this we should take calcitonin. Calcitonin provides a signal to osteoblasts to take in more calcium from the blood aka, grow. So my theory is as long as there is enough calcium in the blood we can keep growing so I have made this guide (pls don’t do it this is theoretical)

1) drink 2 litres of milk a day (ray peat style) or consume 2000mg of calcium as supplement form
2)take active form of vitamin d(calcitriol), this ensures that calcium is absorbed from the food into the bloodstream
3) take calcitonin
4) suppress pth
5) take thyroid
6) HGH or test would be greatly helpful

this should give us strong healthy big bones and endless growth

Potential dangerous side effects
Hypercalcemia which may cause tiredness and heart problems pls approach with caution
what are your opinions on this theory
@DrTony

 

[BearBoy]

1. Drink milk with casein protein
2. Take mk677 for IGF increase
3. take vitamin d with k

 

[BearBoy]

also retarded thread, just abuse HGH

 

[FinallyAscended]

also retarded thread, just abuse HGH

Yes but HGH abusers look very tragic

 

[Nikulius]

1. Drink milk with casein protein
2. Take mk677 for IGF increase
3. take vitamin d with k

Does it matter when you take mk677?

 

[BearBoy]

Yes but HGH abusers look very tragic

why

 

[FinallyAscended]

why

Their faces look disgusting

 

[BearBoy]

Their faces look disgusting

This shows that you are misinformed about everything

HGH or GH works different with everyone, for some face isnt affected and body is affected, for some both. Look at rich piana his nose and ears were still small

 

[FinallyAscended]

This shows that you are misinformed about everything

HGH or GH works different with everyone, for some face isnt affected and body is affected, for some both. Look at rich piana his nose and ears were still small

Fair enough, well I’m just exploring a potentially different way of approaching the problem.

but your right

 

[Deleted member 1660]

To increase bone size we have to increase osteoblasts activity to do this we should take calcitonin. Calcitonin provides a signal to osteoblasts to take in more calcium from the blood aka, grow. So my theory is as long as there is enough calcium in the blood we can keep growing so I have made this guide (pls don’t do it this is theoretical)

1) drink 2 litres of milk a day (ray peat style) or consume 2000mg of calcium as supplement form
2)take active form of vitamin d(calcitriol), this ensures that calcium is absorbed from the food into the bloodstream
3) take calcitonin
4) suppress pth
5) take thyroid
6) HGH or test would be greatly helpful

this should give us strong healthy big bones and endless growth

Potential dangerous side effects
Hypercalcemia which may cause tiredness and heart problems pls approach with caution
what are your opinions on this theory

kidney stones 2.0

 

[FinallyAscended]

kidney stones 2.0

Legit, how so

calcitonin should theoretically absorb the calcium from the blood into the osteoblasts so calcium levels should be stable

 

[redfacccee]

i think @loox is a perfect example of this

 

[FinallyAscended]

i think @loox is a perfect example of this

How so

 

[onfiresems]

Calcium supplements are cope

 

[redfacccee]

How so

pretty sure he drinks a lot of milk, overactive thyroid, mk 677, test, tanning

 

[MrIncrelex]

To increase bone size we have to increase osteoblasts activity to do this we should take calcitonin. Calcitonin provides a signal to osteoblasts to take in more calcium from the blood aka, grow. So my theory is as long as there is enough calcium in the blood we can keep growing so I have made this guide (pls don’t do it this is theoretical)

1) drink 2 litres of milk a day (ray peat style) or consume 2000mg of calcium as supplement form
2)take active form of vitamin d(calcitriol), this ensures that calcium is absorbed from the food into the bloodstream
3) take calcitonin
4) suppress pth
5) take thyroid
6) HGH or test would be greatly helpful

this should give us strong healthy big bones and endless growth

Potential dangerous side effects
Hypercalcemia which may cause tiredness and heart problems pls approach with caution
what are your opinions on this theory
@DrTony

K2 prevents hypercalcemia

 

[FinallyAscended]

To increase bone size we have to increase osteoblasts activity to do this we should take calcitonin. Calcitonin provides a signal to osteoblasts to take in more calcium from the blood aka, grow. So my theory is as long as there is enough calcium in the blood we can keep growing so I have made this guide (pls don’t do it this is theoretical)

1) drink 2 litres of milk a day (ray peat style) or consume 2000mg of calcium as supplement form
2)take active form of vitamin d(calcitriol), this ensures that calcium is absorbed from the food into the bloodstream
3) take calcitonin
4) suppress pth
5) take thyroid
6) HGH or test would be greatly helpful

this should give us strong healthy big bones and endless growth

Potential dangerous side effects
Hypercalcemia which may cause tiredness and heart problems pls approach with caution
what are your opinions on this theory
@DrTony

Ok after further research I have concluded my theory is wrong.

 

[Deleted member 16834]

Ok after further research I have concluded my theory is wrong.

damn I thought u were high iq for a sec

 

[CurlyHairBarret]

To increase bone size we have to increase osteoblasts activity to do this we should take calcitonin. Calcitonin provides a signal to osteoblasts to take in more calcium from the blood aka, grow. So my theory is as long as there is enough calcium in the blood we can keep growing so I have made this guide (pls don’t do it this is theoretical)

1) drink 2 litres of milk a day (ray peat style) or consume 2000mg of calcium as supplement form
2)take active form of vitamin d(calcitriol), this ensures that calcium is absorbed from the food into the bloodstream
3) take calcitonin
4) suppress pth
5) take thyroid
6) HGH or test would be greatly helpful

this should give us strong healthy big bones and endless growth

Potential dangerous side effects
Hypercalcemia which may cause tiredness and heart problems pls approach with caution
what are your opinions on this theory
@DrTony

Really not ready to share this yet, might make a thread in a few months but if you are under 23 ( this has worked on me insanely well, will post pics when i lean down) get a back massager, put it on medium setting and vibrate the bone you want to increase in size more specifically around the nutrient foramen of the desired bone.
What this does is increases the bloodflow into the nutrient foramen therefore feeding and growing out the bone more. You have to be very patient with the results in the first few days but if you feel the bones in your face you will notice the increase in mass.

 

[CurlyHairBarret]

Also doesnt just work for face also ribs, shoulders, arms, hands, legs

Really not ready to share this yet, might make a thread in a few months but if you are under 23 ( this has worked on me insanely well, will post pics when i lean down) get a back massager, put it on medium setting and vibrate the bone you want to increase in size more specifically around the nutrient foramen of the desired bone.
What this does is increases the bloodflow into the nutrient foramen therefore feeding and growing out the bone more. You have to be very patient with the results in the first few days but if you feel the bones in your face you will notice the increase in mass.

 

[Deleted member 16834]

Really not ready to share this yet, might make a thread in a few months but if you are under 23 ( this has worked on me insanely well, will post pics when i lean down) get a back massager, put it on medium setting and vibrate the bone you want to increase in size more specifically around the nutrient foramen of the desired bone.
What this does is increases the bloodflow into the nutrient foramen therefore feeding and growing out the bone more. You have to be very patient with the results in the first few days but if you feel the bones in your face you will notice the increase in mass.

@CurlyHairBarret

what back massager do you use? I tried something like this long time ago with a massage gun on the browridge but stopped

 

[CurlyHairBarret]

@CurlyHairBarret

what back massager do you use? I tried something like this long time ago with a massage gun on the browridge but stopped

Do it 3 x 30 sec per day, the browridge should work the quickest because of the supra orbital foramen but for whatever reason its a slow process, i use the Homedics hydro gun, check my earlier post about this for reference on foramen.

 

[CurlyHairBarret]

888

 

[FinallyAscended]

No way @MAG27 im 19 also from north qld, what are the odds?

not from QLD but lurking somewhere else in Australia for privacy reasons lmao

 

[CurlyHairBarret]

not from QLD but lurking somewhere else in Australia for privacy reasons lmao

Ive been mewing for a year and a half and i just found out about the tongue swallowing trick and its helped heaps.

 

[FinallyAscended]

Do it 3 x 30 sec per day, the browridge should work the quickest because of the supra orbital foramen but for whatever reason its a slow process, i use the Homedics hydro gun, check my earlier post about this for reference on foramen.

have you tried this on the mandible

 

[Deleted member 7509]

Also doesnt just work for face also ribs, shoulders, arms, hands, legs

High iq. How would you put it on jaw though? Below the chin?

 

[CurlyHairBarret]

High iq. How would you put it on jaw though? Below the chin?

Oh, thank you for the "high iq" i rarely get compliments so that means alot. For the jaw you will want to focus on both the left and the right ramus and yes the chin, this is where the accessory foramen and mentalis foramen are for the chin. Move the device along your jaw slowly when moving from position to position as to target any extra potential accessory foramen.
Sorry i cant attach all of my sources ive read 10s of papers and seen hundreds of diagrams and cadaver pictures and just pieced together everything from there.

 

[Deleted member 7509]

Oh, thank you for the "high iq" i rarely get compliments so that means alot. For the jaw you will want to focus on both the left and the right ramus and yes the chin, this is where the accessory foramen and mentalis foramen are for the chin. Move the device along your jaw slowly when moving from position to position as to target any extra potential accessory foramen.
Sorry i cant attach all of my sources ive read 10s of papers and seen hundreds of diagrams and cadaver pictures and just pieced together everything from there.

Ty dude, will try

 

[Posmo]

Really not ready to share this yet, might make a thread in a few months but if you are under 23 ( this has worked on me insanely well, will post pics when i lean down) get a back massager, put it on medium setting and vibrate the bone you want to increase in size more specifically around the nutrient foramen of the desired bone.
What this does is increases the bloodflow into the nutrient foramen therefore feeding and growing out the bone more. You have to be very patient with the results in the first few days but if you feel the bones in your face you will notice the increase in mass.

is this legit lol how long do you use the massager for each bone? and what supps do u take with it

 

[AscendingHero]

To increase bone size we have to increase osteoblasts activity to do this we should take calcitonin. Calcitonin provides a signal to osteoblasts to take in more calcium from the blood aka, grow. So my theory is as long as there is enough calcium in the blood we can keep growing so I have made this guide (pls don’t do it this is theoretical)

1) drink 2 litres of milk a day (ray peat style) or consume 2000mg of calcium as supplement form
2)take active form of vitamin d(calcitriol), this ensures that calcium is absorbed from the food into the bloodstream
3) take calcitonin
4) suppress pth
5) take thyroid
6) HGH or test would be greatly helpful

this should give us strong healthy big bones and endless growth

Potential dangerous side effects
Hypercalcemia which may cause tiredness and heart problems pls approach with caution
what are your opinions on this theory
@DrTony

Supps are mostly cope and toxic just be healthy and increase bone anabolism factors (IGF-1 and Testosterone and its derivatives).

So Primal balanced diet (raw milk, raw pastured dairy) +sun +cholesterol (for d3) and gh and t maxx (sun, diet, sleep, meat)

 

[AscendingHero]

Ok after further research I have concluded my theory is wrong.

What about it is wrong?

 

[AscendingHero]

Oh, thank you for the "high iq" i rarely get compliments so that means alot. For the jaw you will want to focus on both the left and the right ramus and yes the chin, this is where the accessory foramen and mentalis foramen are for the chin. Move the device along your jaw slowly when moving from position to position as to target any extra potential accessory foramen.
Sorry i cant attach all of my sources ive read 10s of papers and seen hundreds of diagrams and cadaver pictures and just pieced together everything from there.

so ur theory is using a massage gun and "bonesmashing" this area precisely?

do you have any before and afters or solid proof this works?

Are you down for a chat in pms?

 

[CurlyHairBarret]

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High iq. How would you put it on jaw though? Below the chin

Ty dude, will try

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so ur theory is using a massage gun and "bonesmashing" this area precisely?

do you have any before and afters or solid proof this works?

Are you down for a chat in pms?

Did you see my thread?

 

[Deleted member 16834]

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Did you see my thread?

bro where is the nutrient foramen for the jaw? Ur picture showed so much anatomy it was confusing

 

[noprogressno]

Calcitonin supplements will just not work. In theory maybe it could since it is actually prescribed to people with osteoporosis but oral supplements won't work. Calcitonin is a protein based hormone, it will get digested to amino acids before your gut can absorb it, so there is no point in taking it orally. For people who have osteoporosis and stuff like that, it is given as a nasal spray. Maybe it could be given onto blood as well but I highly doubt that would be safe, blood has a very fragile balance of nutrients and minerals, mess up with it and you might even die(This wouldn't be an issue with most of the hormones but since calcitonin directly affects blood calcium levels any rapid decline in blood calcium levels could be fatal. The body actually prioritizes blood before anything, thats why calcium deficiency cannot be tested, only the level of calcium in the blood can be tested because it could be an indicator of other things, but not deficiency. That is also why, let's say if you took blood of someone malnourished and tested it for calcium levels, it would probably came out normal even if there is actual deficiency happening, thats the role of parathormone after all...)

 

[spark]

Calcitonin supplements will just not work. In theory maybe it could since it is actually prescribed to people with osteoporosis but oral supplements won't work. Calcitonin is a protein based hormone, it will get digested to amino acids before your gut can absorb it, so there is no point in taking it orally. For people who have osteoporosis and stuff like that, it is given as a nasal spray. Maybe it could be given onto blood as well but I highly doubt that would be safe, blood has a very fragile balance of nutrients and minerals, mess up with it and you might even die(This wouldn't be an issue with most of the hormones but since calcitonin directly affects blood calcium levels any rapid decline in blood calcium levels could be fatal. The body actually prioritizes blood before anything, thats why calcium deficiency cannot be tested, only the level of calcium in the blood can be tested because it could be an indicator of other things, but not deficiency. That is also why, let's say if you took blood of someone malnourished and tested it for calcium levels, it would probably came out normal even if there is actual deficiency happening, thats the role of parathormone after all...)

Do you think any compound could work to maximize protraction? Not used in an isolation but together with MSE+Bollards for example.

 

[noprogressno]

Do you think any compound could work to maximize protraction? Not used in an isolation but together with MSE+Bollards for example.

I can't think of anything other than hormones at the moment which most of them are basically useless unless taken as an injection or via a non oral route. Let me look onto it for a while, if I can find something I will share it. But in my opinion it should be something that will decrease the resistance that comes from sutures, after that happens new bone will fill in regardless if someone is using any sort of supplement or supplemental compound, something like that could only affect the speed of that process. I think it is similar to a fractured bone healing, supplements could only help with the speed of healing(unless there is a sort of deficiency of course)

 

[AscendingHero]

Ok after further research I have concluded my theory is wrong.

What's ur updated version? what do u recommend for pubertycels looking to bone and chadmaxx in puberty?

@MAG27 @chinpilled

 

[spark]

I can't think of anything other than hormones at the moment which most of them are basically useless unless taken as an injection or via a non oral route. Let me look onto it for a while, if I can find something I will share it.

How is that a problem? Peptides are very easily accessible. Steroids also. What matters is whether it has any impact or not.

But in my opinion it should be something that will decrease the resistance that comes from sutures, after that happens new bone will fill in regardless if someone is using any sort of supplement or supplemental compound, something like that could only affect the speed of that process. I think it is similar to a fractured bone healing, supplements could only help with the speed of healing(unless there is a sort of deficiency of course)

But what if something increased the speed of bone regeneration it could maybe increase the amount of bone which fills in and the overall result.

 

[noprogressno]

How is that a problem? Peptides are very easily accessible. Steroids also. What matters is whether it has any impact or not.

I was saying this with the hormone relaxin in my mind. Even if injecteable hormones or peptides or steroids (some forms btw can be taken orally as well unlike protein based compounds like hormones) are accessible to you I doubt that it would work. HGH for example doesn't do anything for height after growth is complete. It doesn't affect those bones. The only exception I know is that nose and lower jaw keeps growing in the case of acromegaly. Even with acromegaly, the maxilla is still not affected(again this is just my observation from looking at cases of acromegaly online, of course I cannot have too much knowledge about this). I don't know what peptides or steroids could do for bone regeneration

But what if something increased the speed of bone regeneration it could maybe increase the amount of bone which fills in and the overall result.

But yes, any supplement that could affect bone quality probably would affect the speed of bone regeneration as well. However I don't think it would affect the overall result, probably the amount of protraction and the amount of bone that fills in would be the same, it would just shorten the healing time

 

[spark]

I was saying this with the hormone relaxin in my mind. Even if injecteable hormones or peptides or steroids (some forms btw can be taken orally as well unlike protein based compounds like hormones) are accessible to you I doubt that it would work. HGH for example doesn't do anything for height after growth is complete. It doesn't affect those bones. The only exception I know is that nose and lower jaw keeps growing in the case of acromegaly. Even with acromegaly, the maxilla is still not affected(again this is just my observation from looking at cases of acromegaly online, of course I cannot have too much knowledge about this). I don't know what peptides or steroids could do for bone regeneration

But yes, any supplement that could affect bone quality probably would affect the speed of bone regeneration as well. However I don't think it would affect the overall result, probably the amount of protraction and the amount of bone that fills in would be the same, it would just shorten the healing time

There must be more things at play than just the force applied. I mean if you 10x the force you don't 10x the result. You would probably just tear the bones apart if anything. I mean I don't really understand the whole process but it can't just be the amount of force used.

 

[noprogressno]

There must be more things at play than just the force applied. I mean if you 10x the force you don't 10x the result. You would probably just tear the bones apart if anything. I mean I don't really understand the whole process but it can't just be the amount of force used.

I believe that too. In fact I strongly believe that stacked forces are much more important than continuous high forces. That could explain why expansion devices like mse for adults or RPE/hyrax expanders for children are so sucessful while on the other hand protraction is not even sometimes with children.

 

[DrTony]

To increase bone size we have to increase osteoblasts activity to do this we should take calcitonin. Calcitonin provides a signal to osteoblasts to take in more calcium from the blood aka, grow. So my theory is as long as there is enough calcium in the blood we can keep growing so I have made this guide (pls don’t do it this is theoretical)

1) drink 2 litres of milk a day (ray peat style) or consume 2000mg of calcium as supplement form
2)take active form of vitamin d(calcitriol), this ensures that calcium is absorbed from the food into the bloodstream
3) take calcitonin
4) suppress pth
5) take thyroid
6) HGH or test would be greatly helpful

this should give us strong healthy big bones and endless growth

Potential dangerous side effects
Hypercalcemia which may cause tiredness and heart problems pls approach with caution
what are your opinions on this theory
@DrTony

Calcium metabolism is tightly regulated in the body. The more calcium you consume the less vit D you need because . If your D is low parathyroid hormones increases to compensate. You just can’t fool the negative feedback loops in the body. Evolution has outsmarted you already

 

[Deleted member 15854]

To increase bone size we have to increase osteoblasts activity to do this we should take calcitonin. Calcitonin provides a signal to osteoblasts to take in more calcium from the blood aka, grow. So my theory is as long as there is enough calcium in the blood we can keep growing so I have made this guide (pls don’t do it this is theoretical)

1) drink 2 litres of milk a day (ray peat style) or consume 2000mg of calcium as supplement form
2)take active form of vitamin d(calcitriol), this ensures that calcium is absorbed from the food into the bloodstream
3) take calcitonin
4) suppress pth
5) take thyroid
6) HGH or test would be greatly helpful

this should give us strong healthy big bones and endless growth

Potential dangerous side effects
Hypercalcemia which may cause tiredness and heart problems pls approach with caution
what are your opinions on this theory
@DrTony

i have tested positive for hypercalcemia today, would k2 mk4 work as well? im taking mk7 rn but dont think thats doing much

 

[OENKENNETH]

Really not ready to share this yet, might make a thread in a few months but if you are under 23 ( this has worked on me insanely well, will post pics when i lean down) get a back massager, put it on medium setting and vibrate the bone you want to increase in size more specifically around the nutrient foramen of the desired bone.
What this does is increases the bloodflow into the nutrient foramen therefore feeding and growing out the bone more. You have to be very patient with the results in the first few days but if you feel the bones in your face you will notice the increase in mass.

So just do what op said and it can unironically grow bones more?You seem like you know alot about it man just make a thread

 

[Deleted member 26761]

this is the effect of increased facial bone growth. just growing your bones isn't enough. they need to be grown in an aesthetic way