There is nothing immoral about necrophilia/necrophilic acts

[Deleted member 9003]

backtracking?

If someone is using morality for argument. You can always run in loopholes.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

If someone is using morality for argument. You can always run in loopholes.

well perhaps in certain cases you can. i've heard the phrase "morality isn't black and white"

for example, a few posts back @Idfkbruh said "next thread: why kiling parents is justified"

what about self defense? like if they are trying to kill you, do you have a right to defend yourself?

obviously if you kill them to get say, inheritance, it's greedy and wrong,

 

[Deleted member 4612]

At what point, even if no one knows about it, does such behavior influence you to cause suffering to society through other acts?

ok i thought this was agreeing with me at first. i misread it, I will address it now.

anyways, that is tough to say. maybe with doing drugs it does, because drugs affect brain chemistry?

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

 

[gai_saber]

ok i thought this was agreeing with me at first. i misread it, I will address it now.

anyways, that is tough to say. maybe with doing drugs it does, because drugs affect brain chemistry?

Yes. My point in this thread and the other thread is to ask at what point do such behaviors influence other behaviors that are deleterious with respect to society; we could also suggest the inverse, which I think you hinted at, too -- that is, to suggest that these acts could lead to behavior that is a net positive for society. It is, as you have said, hard to tell.

 

[Deleted member 9003]

well perhaps in certain cases you can. i've heard the phrase "morality isn't black and white"

for example, a few posts back @Idfkbruh said "next thread: why kiling parents is justified"

what about self defense? like if they are trying to kill you, do you have a right to defend yourself?

obviously if you kill them to get say, inheritance, it's greedy and wrong,

Water. Self defense killings aren’t charged for crimes.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

If someone is using morality for argument. You can always run in loopholes.

so you just give up?

 

[Deleted member 9003]

so you just give up?

Humans morality codes barely changed. The only moral codes that I know that have changed are things like homosexuality and age of consent. I don’t think the ethics about necrophilia will ever change.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Humans morality codes barely changed. The only moral codes that I know that have changed are things like homosexuality and age of consent. I don’t think the ethics about necrophilia will ever change.

i asked earlier. if people lived in a society where making love one last time to a corpse was simply part of the ritual of burial, would it be seen as wrong?

 

[BrettyBoy]

Spoiler

A female will definitely be willing to rape dead chad.

 

[Deleted member 9003]

i asked earlier. if people lived in a society where making love one last time to a corpse was simply part of the ritual of burial, would it be seen as wrong?

According to the rest of the world yea. Societies morals have already been set in stone (excluding Isolated tribes).

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Humans morality codes barely changed. The only moral codes that I know that have changed are things like homosexuality and age of consent. I don’t think the ethics about necrophilia will ever change.

Homosexuality isn't natural, they haven't found a gay gene in all these years yet. I believe it's part of a plan to depopulate the earth. As for AOC that's just cuz we now have longer lifespans. I also think necrophilia won't change.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

According to the rest of the world yea. Societies morals have already been set in stone (excluding Isolated tribes).

so its wrong because people say it is? i never heard this

 

[Deleted member 9003]

so its wrong because people say it is? i never heard this

Morality has been evolved over hundreds of years and has helped keep humans in line. Now people are trying to mess with it. With things like homosexuality and being trans.

 

[Gengar’s Ghost]

Next thread:
Here is why they can consent even if they say no

its pretty simple: the japanese word for "no" is "ya" and in dutch "ja" means "yes," therefore no means yes!

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Morality has been evolved over hundreds of years and has helped keep humans in line. Now people are trying to mess with it. With things like homosexuality and being trans.

the problem with homosexuality and being trans is they affect the birth rate negatively and spread disease.

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

Obviously the dead person doesnt care, youre not doing anything bad to them because there is no person there, just a corpse. But there are relatives, family members, who have a desire, maybe religious or maybe not, to go through the ritual of a funeral and burying them and all that, and it would be immoral regarding their wishes to do aomething to their mother’s or son’s or brothers corpse. Like @Danish_Retard ’s post said, you are causing other, living people grief by doing things to this dead body. And there is a natural, not restricted to any place or religion, desire to treat the dead’s bodies with respect and usually bury them. So doing something with a dead persons body is like going to a church wearing a shirt with a pornographic image on it or going to a mosque with a painting of mohammed. Obviously, youre not hurting anyone, but people interpret these things as disrespectful and I think it is OK to let them allow rules that forbid these things because its an essential part of their culture

But yeah as for me you could rape my dead body and store cocaine in it, I will not exist so I wont have a problem with it.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

And there is a natural, not restricted to any place or religion, desire to treat the dead’s bodies with respect and usually bury them.

im not sure if this is true.

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

im not sure if this is true.

Well I cant speak to every single culture of course, but nowadays, in tribes in the middle of the amazon jungle that have never contacted anyone else, as well as the most advanced cities like tokyo, all have a culture that includes some sort of death ritual. In modern countries usually its burying the dead body in a cemetary. But as long as humans have existed, they have buried their dead and treated the dead bodies with respect, in the middle east, in america, in china, in europe. Just like religion, its a part of human nature to have these cultural practices

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Well I cant speak to every single culture of course, but nowadays, in tribes in the middle of the amazon jungle that have never contacted anyone else, as well as the most advanced cities like tokyo, all have a culture that includes some sort of death ritual. In modern countries usually its burying the dead body in a cemetary. But as long as humans have existed, they have buried their dead and treated the dead bodies with respect, in the middle east, in america, in china, in europe. Just like religion, its a part of human nature to have these cultural practices

those tribes didnt pop up out of nowhere. their ancestors were likely in contact with other civilizations that passed down this ritual

not only that, but it still doesn't debunk the argument i made before. that if a culture had a ritual of making love one last time before burying, necrophilia wouldnt be seen as immoral

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

those tribes didnt pop up out of nowhere. their ancestors were likely in contact with other civilizations that passed down this ritual

That is true, there is always some connection with some other people from the past. But the people from america, the people in china, the people in africa, all independently developed their own rituals and cultural practices regarding the dead, but they all involved the same types of things, treating the dead bodies well and usually burying them. Theyve been doing it as long as humans have existed. But even if we assume its not natural, and its a purely cultural practice, still I think the same thing applies where we should respect their desires.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

That is true, there is always some connection with some other people from the past. But the people from america, the people in china, the people in africa, all independently developed their own rituals and cultural practices regarding the dead, but they all involved the same types of things, treating the dead bodies well and usually burying them. Theyve been doing it as long as humans have existed. But even if we assume its not natural, and its a purely cultural practice, still I think the same thing applies where we should respect their desires.

by that logic, any action which is inherently amoral can be made "immoral" just because a culture says so

 

[Ritalincell]

Once a person is dead, that's it. They no longer feel anything. A dead body is just random organic material. It's not rape since its a non living thing.

And I know what some might be thinking "how would you like it if someone raped your dead body?" And the truth is I wouldn't care, since I'd be dead.

I'm not into necrophilia btw, doesn't appeal to me. But why should I be so damn opposed to something which doesn't cause harm? why should anyone? doesn't make sense

Often you are creepy and weird. Here I agree with you but you are still creepy and weird

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

by that logic, any action which is inherently amoral can be made "immoral" just because a culture says so

Well I like to draw a distinction obviously. Having some ritual with a dead body doesn't hurt anyone. But Im not going to respect someones desire that we kill non believers in their religion, or for a common american example, that we circumcise kids just because its a cultural practice. But i don't see the problem with allowing them a ritual with the dead bodies of their relatives.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Well I like to draw a distinction obviously. Having some ritual with a dead body doesn't hurt anyone. But Im not going to respect someones desire that we kill non believers in their religion, or for a common american example, that we circumcise kids just because its a cultural practice. But i don't see the problem with allowing them a ritual with the dead bodies of their relatives.

i agree with you in that aspect when differentiating between killing non believers/circumcision vs ritual for the dead.

however it still means that a lot of immorality is actually a result of cultural norms and not inherently wrong in and of itself

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

i agree with you in that aspect when differentiating between killing non believers/circumcision vs ritual for the dead.

however it still means that a lot of immorality is actually a result of cultural norms and not inherently wrong in and of itself

Thats true and theres all kinds of shit I would vehemently oppose, no matter how important it was to someones culture. But with dead bodies I think its fine to let people have it the way they want.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

If someone is using morality for argument. You can always run in loopholes.

once again, you weren't clear. what am i using morality for? like what means to what end am i using it?

 

[Deleted member 4612]

It's simple really most people believe that they have a right to decide what happens to their corpses. Look at wills and the fact that we allow people to select their methods by which their corpses are disposed of. Some American Civil War enthusiasts ask that their bodies be cremated and shot out of antique cannons, and we have no problem indulging that wish.

Most people wouldn't want their corpses to be used sexually. Therefore necrophilia is considered wrong unless the deceased had specified otherwise prior to death that they didn't mind.

the problem with this argument is that you only explained why people consider necrophilia to be wrong, not why it actually is wrong. your whole argument revolves around a sense of entitlement to what happens to your body after you die, and that violating that entitlement is "wrong".

 

[Deleted member 2403]

Volcel if you wouldn’t

 

[TedKazanski]

chad ascends even after death

https://www.elitereaders.com/morgue-worker-pregnant-male-corpse/

 

[Deleted member 2403]

chad ascends even after death

https://www.elitereaders.com/morgue-worker-pregnant-male-corpse/

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She was just being adventurous sweetie

 

[Deleted member 6573]

high iq tbh

Also nothing wrong with making fun of cancer patients. They dead anyway.

 

[TedKazanski]

Twilight - a woman's choice between beastiliaty and necrophilia.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

high iq tbh

Also nothing wrong with making fun of cancer patients. They dead anyway.

you mean dead ones right? ones who are alive can still feel emotional pain

 

[Deleted member 6475]

I disagree

 

[Deleted member 4612]

I disagree

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

 

[Alexanderr]

@disillusioned tier thread.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

@disillusioned tier thread.

I'd like to hear his thoughts ngl. he made a thread defending killing jfl so i wonder how he'd feel about doing something to a body that is already dead.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

@her @Alexanderr @werty1457 @john2 @Gargantuan

what is worse? necrophilia or abortion?

 

[Deleted member 5969]

@her @Alexanderr @werty1457 @john2 @Gargantuan

what is worse? necrophilia or abortion?

Both are horrible acts and even entertaining this kind of debate is a sin. Repent.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Both are horrible acts and even entertaining this kind of debate is a sin. Repent.

why is debating the lesser of two evils a sin?

 

[Deleted member 5969]

why is debating the lesser of two evils a sin?

Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.

It's foolish

 

[SadnessWYJ]

next thread : why shoving that human embryo (its my property, i absolutely didn't forcefully remove it form my pregnant doll(totally not human corpse wearing dress teehee) )up my dick is totally okay

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.

It's foolish

lesser of two evils discussions does not violate that

remember that the church agrees that there are different severity of sins

 

[Deleted member 5969]

lesser of two evils discussions does not violate that

remember that the church agrees that there are different severity of sins

This talk is foolish and you know it.

 

[Pillarman]

sounds immoral and humiliating to me, unless the dead person gave you the consent before dying, in which case it's just weird

 

[Deleted member 4612]

This talk is foolish and you know it.

no i don't. you can't just say "i'm right and you know it" and pass it off as a true argument

 

[Deleted member 4612]

sounds immoral and humiliating to me, unless the dead person gave you the consent before dying, in which case it's just weird

you not giving me all your money and kissing my feet sounds immoral and humiliating to me.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

no i don't. you can't just say "i'm right and you know it" and pass it off as a true argument

This is foolish behaviour. We both know it. I'm sure @john2 can agree.