There is nothing wrong with restricting immigration based on race.

[Aladin]

Continuation:

Why are people so childish when it comes to discussions?

Imagine the following conversation: Person A: the NBA (national basketball association), is a form of entertainment. Person B: sure Person A: so there is no obligation to watch it. Any reason some person wants to not watch it is good enough. Person B: sure Person A: so if I don’t want to watch...

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@widdi @wishIwasSalludon @romanstock @Gamerspyy786 @Sub5UglyMan @Pento

Immigration is a privilege, not a right, so no matter what reason someone wants to reject someone for entering the country, said reason is fine, including racism reasons.

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

 

[True truecel]

No

But it’s definelty fine to treat immigrants as non citizen, because they aren’t. They should be given a very thin line of acceptance for legal issues. If they commit crimes - deport.

 

[Aladin]

No

Elab. Countries have the right to control their immigration system.

 

[True truecel]

Elab. Countries have the right to control their immigration system.

Yea of course but not based on race

based on wealth or some sort of standard is completely fine, just based on race is racist obviously

 

[Zeekie]

Continuation:

Why are people so childish when it comes to discussions?

Imagine the following conversation: Person A: the NBA (national basketball association), is a form of entertainment. Person B: sure Person A: so there is no obligation to watch it. Any reason some person wants to not watch it is good enough. Person B: sure Person A: so if I don’t want to watch...

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@widdi @wishIwasSalludon @romanstock @Gamerspyy786 @Sub5UglyMan @Pento

Immigration is a privilege, not a right, so no matter what reason someone wants to reject someone for entering the country, said reason is fine, including racism reasons.

crazy statement tbh Do not let people find out who you're cuz you're getting the Clavicular treatment in collegeor work

 

[Aladin]

Yea of course but not based on race

No?

This would be implying countries need approval from others to restrict immigration, which implies lack of compete autonomy in choices.

 

[Aladin]

crazy statement tbh

It isn’t.

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

Only if they’re compatible with western ideals

 

[Zeekie]

It isn’t.

I mean, I would categorize something as a "crazy statement" if when you say out loud in a crowd of let's say 100 people, over 90% of them would probably instantly dislike you, definitely an unpopular opinion.

 

[Aladin]

Only if they’re compatible with western ideals

That’s subjective.

 

[Aladin]

I mean, I would categorize something as a "crazy statement" if when you say out loud in a crowd of let's say 100 people, over 90% of them would probably instantly dislike you, definitely an unpopular opinion.

But most people would agree with the statement “countries have the right to restrict immigration for any reason.”

This is just a natural result of that.

 

[True truecel]

No?

This would be implying countries need approval from others to restrict immigration, which implies lack of compete autonomy in choices.

Wdym countries need approval from others? No one needs approval to do anything, it doesn’t affect the morality of the action.

For example Afghanistan doesn’t let their women have many basic rights, but it doesn’t make it right

Racism is wrong. If you want to stop immigration (there are many sensible reasons for doing so), then just set a standard criteria for immigrants to meet, or don’t let immigrants in at all like Polands policy (for the most part)

 

[enlightful]

 

[Aladin]

Wdym countries need approval from others? No one needs approval to do anything, it doesn’t affect the morality of the action.

There is no obligation to accept people for any reason. Rejection is fine for any reason.

 

[Zeekie]

But most people would agree with the statement “countries have the right to restrict immigration for any reason.”

This is just a natural result of that.

Yeah they'd agree with that until you add the detail of "including racism".

I'm an immigrant studying in Italy, and my country also has a big racism and immigration problem from a neighboring country, so I kinda have both perspectives. I just don't agree with the idea that we should not let a certain group of people enter a nation if we have no evidence of previous misconduct or bad intentions, just why? Even when a country restricts immigration it's not for "any reason", there's always a reason, often pretty logical too.

 

[Aladin]

Racism is wrong.

No it isn’t. If I don’t wanna date a black chick that’s racist but it’s not wrong.

 

[Aladin]

Yeah they'd agree with that until you add the detail of "including racism".

So? That just means they’re morons who backpedal.

 

[Aladin]

Yeah they'd agree with that until you add the detail of "including racism".

I'm an immigrant studying in Italy, and my country also has a big racism and immigration problem from a neighboring country, so I kinda have both perspectives. I just don't agree with the idea that we should not let a certain group of people enter a nation if we have no evidence of previous misconduct or bad intentions, just why? Even when a country restricts immigration it's not for "any reason", there's always a reason, often pretty logical too.

Logical reason is race matters even if we act like it doesn’t.

 

[ihatereddit]

Yeah but the world would need a significant paradigm shift in order for that to happen
the last openly racist country (SA) was sanctioned and pressured until they liberalmaxxed and that was 30 years ago
I dont know what event would need to happen tbh

 

[Zeekie]

So? That just means they’re morons who backpedal.

yeah, and the fact that realistically most people would step back from supporting your argument doesn't like.. Raise questions for you?

I mean really I don't care much about this conversation, I just wanted the 1500 posts.

 

[Aladin]

Yeah but the world would need a significant paradigm shift in order for that to happen
the last openly racist country (SA) was sanctioned and pressured until they liberalmaxxed and that was 30 years ago
I dont know what event would need to happen tbh

Common sense and balls

 

[Zeekie]

Logical reason is race matters even if we act like it doesn’t.

Elaborate...? How does race matter, I mean yeah, it matters in a lot of contexts like dating since people overwhelmingly have certain preferences, but what is its relevance when it comes to migration?

 

[Aladin]

eah, and the fact that realistically most people would step back from supporting your argument doesn't like.. Raise questions for you?

No, it tells me most people are pussies who practice post-hoc rationalization.

 

[Aladin]

Elaborate...? How does race matter, I mean yeah, it matters in a lot of contexts like dating since people overwhelmingly have certain preferences, but what is its relevance when it comes to migration?

people have preferences and it affects social cohesion

 

[Zeekie]

people have preferences and it affects social cohesion

Honestly can't really argue with that

I really doubt most countries would implement that, hypothetically if it were to become a globally acceptable practice, probably a few Asian, African or Eastern European countries would implement it, but most countries just depend too much on cultural exchange and tourism to pull that off without significant public backlash.

 

[Aladin]

Honestly can't really argue with that

Well good you see my point.

I really doubt most countries would implement that, hypothetically if it were to become a globally acceptable practice, probably a few Asian, African or Eastern European countries would implement it, but most countries just depend too much on cultural exchange and tourism to pull that off without significant public backlash.

Clown world.

 

[True truecel]

No it isn’t. If I don’t wanna date a black chick that’s racist but it’s not wrong.

That’s not racist, that’s just your personal preference. Has nothing to do with racism idk who told you that

 

[Aladin]

That’s not racist, that’s just your personal preference. Has nothing to do with racism idk who told you that

That is racist. Read the definition;

Not dating black chicks = discrimination.

 

[Pento]

No

But it’s definelty fine to treat immigrants as non citizen, because they aren’t. They should be given a very thin line of acceptance for legal issues. If they commit crimes - deport.

I agree with this. I also believe most immigration offices already secretly do this. They just don’t announce it publicly.

 

[incel-at-heart]

Continuation:

Why are people so childish when it comes to discussions?

Imagine the following conversation: Person A: the NBA (national basketball association), is a form of entertainment. Person B: sure Person A: so there is no obligation to watch it. Any reason some person wants to not watch it is good enough. Person B: sure Person A: so if I don’t want to watch...

looksmax.org

@widdi @wishIwasSalludon @romanstock @Gamerspyy786 @Sub5UglyMan @Pento

Immigration is a privilege, not a right, so no matter what reason someone wants to reject someone for entering the country, said reason is fine, including racism reasons.

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[True truecel]

That is racist. Read the definition;
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Not dating black chicks = discrimination.

no, this is like saying someone’s racist for having friends of the same race. When it comes to spending time with people, love, etc, nothing racist about having preferences for certain types of people

On the other hand if you were discriminating a random black person in the workplace, in public, or anywhere on the sole basis that they are black then yeah of course that’s racist

This is a Pretty cold take that everyone agrees with

 

[True truecel]

I agree with this. I also believe most immigration offices already secretly do this. They just don’t announce it publicly.

No they do the opposite. They are more lenient towards immigrants. A lot of europes problems can be solved by cracking down on immigrants

 

[Aladin]

no, this is like saying someone’s racist for having friends of the same race. When it comes to spending time with people, love, etc, nothing racist about having preferences for certain types of people

Nope, this is naive.

On the other hand if you were discriminating a random black person in the workplace, in public, or anywhere on the sole basis that they are black then yeah of course that’s racist

Nope, this is nonsense. Choosing friends is discrimination. Do you even know the definition of discrimination?

This is a Pretty cold take that everyone agrees with

No, it’s not.

 

[True truecel]

Nope

Nope, this is nonsense. Choosing friends is discrimination.

No, it’s not.

No it’s just not it’s a preference, there’s a difference between a preference and discrimination.

You don’t have to like other races/cultures, forcing you to do that would be morally wrong. But also hating on them is wrong. If you don’t like the races/cultures there’s no problem, however if this shows up in any way legally, and in public then it’s wrong

Again there is absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting to date outside your race

 

[Aladin]

No it’s just not it’s a preference, there’s a difference between a preference and discrimination.

A preference is internal. However once that preference affects choices IRL, that is discrimination.

You don’t have to like other races/cultures, forcing you to do that would be morally wrong. But also hating on them is wrong.

Excluding them from entering = hating?

If you don’t like the races/cultures there’s no problem, however if this shows up in any way legally, and in public then it’s wrong

No it’s not countries have soveirgnty.

Again there is absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting to date outside your race

There is nothing wrong with a country seeking to be ethnically homogeneous and rejecting those who might disrupt that.

 

[Pento]

No they do the opposite. They are more lenient towards immigrants. A lot of europes problems can be solved by cracking down on immigrants

I had America in mind, since there’s a load of Chinese and Indian immigrants, the entire Visa and green card system is full until like 2035.

I’m guessing Europe is lenient towards migrants these past few years, heard they’re tightening up could be wrong.

To me it never made sense being on someone else’s land as an immigrant and committing crimes. And it’s usually not the immigrants themselves but their children.

 

[qrdprdmrd]

It should be based on gender. Only women are allowed into comfy countries. Men should stay back and grind through- builds character.

 

[DarkTriadBeliever]

It's all fun and games until Only white chad immigrants comes to your country, now hypergamy increases by 1000%

Anyone who genuinely wants this is a cuck

 

[Aladin]

It's all fun and games until Only white chad immigrants comes to your country, now hypergamy increases by 1000%

Anyone who genuinely wants this is a cuck

White chads are not immigrants.

 

[Aladin]

A preference is internal. However once that preference affects choices IRL, that is discrimination.

@True truecel

 

[True truecel]

@True truecel

*Affects choices IRL pertaining to anyone else economically, legally, emotionally etc. If you have a preference and you make a choice not to date black people then there’s nothing wrong with that.

In the same way if a black person doesn’t want to date outside their race, there’s nothing wrong with that

 

[lastofus123]

I don't mind races that don't do anything like asians, but it should always be at a miantanable level rather than the insane pour of immigrants we have in the west where countries like Europe and Australia barely has infrastructure to handle that level of immigration

the US on the hand has long run out of resources and the proper infrastructure to house the 6+ million illegals and more that have entered the country and is just running on fumes at this point, though they do have more than enough resources to create the latest tanks or jets or rockets or nukes along with setting up shelter in hotels in sanctuary city, all paid for by the taxpayer dollar!

 

[True truecel]

I had America in mind, since there’s a load of Chinese and Indian immigrants, the entire Visa and green card system is full until like 2035.

I’m guessing Europe is lenient towards migrants these past few years, heard they’re tightening up could be wrong.

To me it never made sense being on someone else’s land as an immigrant and committing crimes. And it’s usually not the immigrants themselves but their children.

It honestly depends what type of immigrants. Usually most of the curries and chinks coming to America tend to have low crime stats, contribute to the nation etc. however like in Canada, curries are basically taking over districts for themselves.

 

[rapeeat88]

Only if they’re compatible with western ideals

No, fag

 

[Aladin]

*Affects choices IRL pertaining to anyone else economically, legally, emotionally etc. If you have a preference and you make a choice not to date black people then there’s nothing wrong with that.

In the same way if a black person doesn’t want to date outside their race, there’s nothing wrong with that

Legally includes immigration.

 

[Daddy's Home]

It doesn't make much sense to do that from any point of view (as a country)

Just as well countries can reject people based on gender, religion, height, weight etc.

People's ethnicity reflects absolutely nothing. There are white people wandering from one white country to another who have a bad reputation and the locals would want them deported, but that still doesn't happen..

What I'm even talking about.. even within a country there are stereotypes about people for simply the location in that country where they were born..

 Each person is a unique individual with unique experiences of their own, which is why laws apply to individuals, not in groups

Obviously, there can be groups of people who are problematic, but that has nothing to do with their ethnicity, but with where they were born and raised, and the education they received

 

[Aladin]

It doesn't make much sense to do that from any point of view (as a country)

Just as well countries can reject people based on gender, religion, height, weight etc.

People's ethnicity reflects absolutely nothing. There are white people wandering from one white country to another who have a bad reputation and the locals would want them deported, but that still doesn't happen..

What I'm even talking about.. even within a country there are stereotypes about people for simply the location in that country where they were born..

 Each person is a unique individual with unique experiences of their own, which is why laws apply to individuals, not in groups

Obviously, there can be groups of people who are problematic, but that has nothing to do with their ethnicity, but with where they were born and raised, and the education they received

You’re retarded if you believe the average of someone’s ethnic group is irrelevant.

 

[Daddy's Home]

You’re retarded if you believe the average of someone’s ethnic group is irrelevant.

It's all about education and where they are born and the environment they grow up in, not ethnicity

That's why all sorts of people from all sorts of countries are allowed into all sorts of countries, because those people still have ''the benefit of the doubt''

Of course, they may have certain restrictions (and this is based more on their country of origin, their culture and civilization, and especially their political environment in the country, not on ethnicity, and the fact that maybe in that country a certain ethnicity is dominant is totally irrelevant) for certain individuals, but also opportunities for inclusion if those individuals demonstrate that they are good citizens

 

[True truecel]

Legally includes immigration.

Right and that’s wrong . Discriminating legally based on race is objectively morally wrong. If you were to discriminate based on wealth, level of education etc, than that’s fine. Idk what’s so hard to understand