theres a retarded nigger here who thinks fillers are shit and implants mog

[Mugwump]

meanwhile average cheekbone implant result looks like this on men:

bloated, rounded feminine zygos with 0 definition - with no possibility of precise control over the shape, even with custom ones

VS average filler results:

Good angularity, precise control over the shape, good definition

but this fucking RETARD @N1666 thinks he knows everything about looks and claims fillers are shit

 

[Mugwump]

would you rather get implants if you had normal sized cheekbones, and end up with a round bloated mess, or simply get a few amounts of fillers to add definition ?
If you choose the first option youre a retarded nigger just like @N1666 congrats !

 

[Deleted member 53646]

tag the retarded nigger

 

[RecessedCels]

Implants are obviously better but just so much more expensive and there's almost no room for error

 

[Mugwump]

tag the retarded nigger

@N1666

 

[Mugwump]

Implants are obviously better but just so much more expensive and there's almost no room for error

you think the first results look better than the last ? PSL has fucked ur brain bro

 

[N1666]

you think the first results look better than the last ? PSL has fucked ur brain bro

You are literally cherrypicking to fit your argument lmao. Stop twisting things to match what your own view

 

[Mugwump]

Implants are obviously better but just so much more expensive and there's almost no room for error

implants is for recessed people, not someone with average bones

 

[Mugwump]

You are literally cherrypicking to fit your argument lmao. Stop twisting things to match what your own view

when the cope is too strong. You just cant admit you were wrong can you
You said fillers are ALWAYS shit. I just gave you an example where fillers mog implants.
BUT YOU JUST CANT ADMIT IT YOU FUCKING CUCK

 

[N1666]

when the cope is too strong. You just cant admit you were wrong can you
You said fillers are ALWAYS shit. I just gave you an example where fillers mog implants.
BUT YOU JUST CANT ADMIT IT YOU FUCKING CUCK

There’s a ton of factors that come into play, like who the surgeon was, what the patient wanted, what they actually look after swelling has gone down etc. I never said they were “always shit”, again you keep twisting things which is why this argument is pointless.

You claimed fillers are hardmaxxing when I asked you what surgery you got, literally anyone on this site would agree that they aren’t.

 

[RecessedCels]

implants is for recessed people, not someone with average bones

Yeah fillers are better for small enhancements while implants are for more drastic and long term improvements. Honestly no one should get cheek implants before trying filler. You need well designed implants or it looks really stupid

 

[Mugwump]

reminder that salludon got fillers, he admitted in on discord
he had average bones and got himself mogger bones with fillers
Implants wouldve been too much

There’s a ton of factors that come into play, like who the surgeon was, what the patient wanted, what they actually look after swelling has gone down etc. I never said they were “always shit”, again you keep twisting things which is why this argument is pointless.

You claimed fillers are hardmaxxing when I asked you what surgery you got, literally anyone on this site would agree that they aren’t.

God you're a fucking liar, what a little prick you are.
I told you that I had fillers done, and you said no wonder you haven't ascended from them BECAUSE FILLERS ARE SHIT.
Then you provided me with a link that supposedly gives arguments for why theyre shit.
Now you finally admit that in some cases, fillers can be good and that it depends on the individual case.
You're the one twisting this whole thing to save yourself from a brutal IQmog.
Whether fillers is hardmaxxing/surgery was never the point of our discussion, you used this particular thing to deviate from the subject and make yourself appear truthful and knowledgeable. You and I both know that when people use the term 'surgery', it is about any type of facial alteration. I said 'surgery is cope' and this particular use of the word triggered you ? lmao
Just admit you were wrong dumbass, move on

 

[Mugwump]

Yeah fillers are better for small enhancements while implants are for more drastic and long term improvements. Honestly no one should get cheek implants before trying filler. You need well designed implants or it looks really stupid

yes, and this retard had the audacity to tell me that fillers are shit and that I should've never had them. He's never seen my face, has no idea which base I had in the first place. Now he tries to twist this whole thing making it seem like he's never said that. What a cuck. Indeed fillers mog in many cases, such as for people with average bones

 

[N1666]

yes, and this retard had the audacity to tell me that fillers are shit and that I should've never had them. He's never seen my face, has no idea which base I had in the first place. Now he tries to twist this whole thing making it seem like he's never said that. What a cuck. Indeed fillers mog in many cases, such as for people with average bones

reminder that salludon got fillers, he admitted in on discord
he had average bones and got himself mogger bones with fillers
Implants wouldve been too much

God you're a fucking liar, what a little prick you are.
I told you that I had fillers done, and you said no wonder you haven't ascended from them BECAUSE FILLERS ARE SHIT.
Then you provided me with a link that supposedly gives arguments for why theyre shit.
Now you finally admit that in some cases, fillers can be good and that it depends on the individual case.
You're the one twisting this whole thing to save yourself from a brutal IQmog.
Whether fillers is hardmaxxing/surgery was never the point of our discussion, you used this particular thing to deviate from the subject and make yourself appear truthful and knowledgeable. You and I both know that when people use the term 'surgery', it is about any type of facial alteration. I said 'surgery is cope' and this particular use of the word triggered you ? lmao
Just admit you were wrong dumbass, move on

@RecessedCels i never said 90% of this btw. As you can tell with all the emotion in his replies he’s not thinking with logic here.

 

[Mugwump]

@RecessedCels i never said 90% of this btw. As you can tell with all the emotion in his replies he’s not thinking with logic here.

yeah you're definitely a little bitch confirmed. It's not too late to admit you were wrong yk

you said, I quote 'anyone with a brain would know not to get fillers as they are giga shit'
does this ring any bell you schizo ?
You indeed said, as I'm showing you, that no one should get fillers. Meaning that fillers are always 'giga shit', as you said
Fucking. Little. Moron.
Now you're contradicting yourself with logically inconsistent statements, which even contradict your own initial arguments . And which, by the way, ive provided to you in my chatGPT response.

There’s a ton of factors that come into play, like who the surgeon was, what the patient wanted, what they actually look after swelling has gone down etc. I never said they were “always shit”, again you keep twisting things which is why this argument is pointless.

literally my chatGPT counter-arguments bro, try again. Contradicting your initial statements.
I think you're the one who isn't using logic, little buddy

 

[N1666]

yeah you're definitely a little bitch confirmed. It's not too late to admit you were wrong yk
View attachment 3302678
you said, I quote 'anyone with a brain would know not to get fillers as they are giga shit'
does this ring any bell you schizo ?
You indeed said, as I'm showing you, that no one should get fillers. Meaning that fillers are always 'giga shit', as you said
Fucking. Little. Moron.
Now you're contradicting yourself with logically inconsistent statements, which even contradict your own initial arguments . And which, by the way, ive provided to you in my chatGPT response.


literally my chatGPT counter-arguments bro, try again. Contradicting your initial statements.
I think you're the one who isn't using logic, little buddy

You are just showing the ten percent that I did say, the rest is bullshit. Stop acting like an emotional little toddler.

 

[N1666]

Not once have I claimed fillers are good either lol. You saying I am copying the points of your “ChatGPT argument” is hilarious, you are showing cherrypicked results and I’m telling you that these results are based on the individual and their surgeon. Nothing to do with what you said

 

[Zonar]

Fillers can add up over the years while you just do implants once. As long as you go to a good reputable surgeon, you'll be fine tbh

 

[N1666]

You and I both know that when people use the term 'surgery', it is about any type of facial alteration.

you lose all credibility of what you are trying to prove when you claim this and hurl mindless insults ^

 

[Mugwump]

You are just showing the ten percent that I did say, the rest is bullshit. Stop acting like an emotional little toddler.

The ten percent of what you said is the essential part, the important part, of our conversation. The WHOLE POINT of our conversation was NOT the definition of surgery. IT WAS whether facial alterations was worth it or not. Then you said that fillers are shit, and that this was the reason why my procedures failed. HA !

I murdered u bro its joever admit it

 

[N1666]

The ten percent of what you said is the essential part, the important part, of our conversation. The WHOLE POINT of our conversation was NOT the definition of surgery. IT WAS whether facial alterations was worth it or not. Then you said that fillers are shit, and that this was the reason why my procedures failed.

Yes and you haven't proved once that fillers are better lmfao. All you have done is chimp out/twist my words, provided the wrong definitions and shown cherry picked implant results (one isnt even accurate because the patient still has swelling LOL).

 

[Mugwump]

you lose all credibility of what you are trying to prove when you claim this and hurl mindless insults ^

you've just lost all credibility my guy. Again, with this definition of surgery, which isnt the topic of our discussion. You're using a red herring fallacy to try to discredit me, and you know it

 

[N1666]

Then you said that fillers are shit, and that this was the reason why my procedures failed. HA !

?? When did I say this

You just claimed I haven't seen your base or results, so how would I know if they "failed"

 

[N1666]

you've just lost all credibility my guy. Again, with this definition of surgery, which isnt the topic of our discussion. You're using a red herring fallacy to try to discredit me, and you know it

Theres nothing to discredit as you are literally not making a single coherent point

 

[FutureSlayer]

u posted retarded normie low iq silicone non saddled implants. Look into saddled infra malar peek by giants

 

[Mugwump]

Yes and you haven't proved once that fillers are better lmfao. All you have done is chimp out/twist my words, provided the wrong definitions and shown cherry picked implant results (one isnt even accurate because the patient still has swelling LOL).

I never said they were BETTER you fucking faggot where did I say this ? I never said anything about fillers being superior to implants. I initially claimed fillers were NOT shit. You're the one who said fillers were inferior to implants and sent a link to support your 'evidence'.
Twisting everything up, you little shit
Now ive provided you a counter argument, with a good filler result, proving that fillers, in specific cases provide benefits and can be superior to implants. And you back out saying that I'm cherry picking...no I'm showing you that fillers are not 'giga shit' as you initially said by providing an example.
Youre very low IQ man

 

[Mugwump]

u posted retarded normie low iq silicone non saddled implants. Look into saddled infra malar peek by giants

the point of the thread is to show to this retard that fillers can be more suited than implants. A patient with average bones will benefit much more from fillers than implants. Many such results were posted from looksmax users (blackgymmax, salludon)

 

[Mugwump]

Theres nothing to discredit as you are literally not making a single coherent point

no, you just can't comprehend anything I've just said because you're a retarded nigger

 

[N1666]

I never said they were BETTER you fucking faggot where did I say this ? I never said anything about fillers being superior to implants. I initially claimed fillers were NOT shit. You're the one who said fillers were inferior to implants and sent a link to support your 'evidence'.
Twisting everything up, you little shit
Now ive provided you a counter argument, with a good filler result, proving that fillers, in specific cases provide benefits and can be superior to implants. And you back out saying that I'm cherry picking...no I'm showing you that fillers are not 'giga shit' as you initially said by providing an example.
Youre very low IQ man

Literally take a look at the title of this thread and the original post. You are trying to make out that fillers are better than implants otherwise you wouldn't have provided an example of both.

 

[Mugwump]

?? When did I say this

You just claimed I haven't seen your base or results, so how would I know if they "failed"

Im tired of your low IQ man, really tired.

I said I had fillers but that I still dont get pussy
Then, you put the blame on the fillers for my lack of pussy, by saying theyre all giga shit
Do you understand this simple fact retard ?

 

[N1666]

View attachment 3302699
Im tired of your low IQ man, really tired.

I said I had fillers but that I still dont get pussy
Then, you put the blame on the fillers for my lack of pussy, by saying theyre all giga shit
Do you understand this simple fact retard ?

Again, you misunderstood because you are a retarded faggot. Me stating that fillers are shit was in no way saying that they are the cause of your lack of pussy you subhuman freak. You said surgery is cope and then provided no surgical procedure, everyone on this site would agree that fillers arent surgery. The original point is that you said surgery is cope LMAOO whats so hard to understand?

 

[Mugwump]

Literally take a look at the title of this thread and the original post. You are trying to make out that fillers are better than implants otherwise you wouldn't have provided an example of both.

View attachment 3302700

God you're stupid. The title of the thread and the examples showcased are meant to prove that in specific, of course 'cherrypicked', cases fillers can be better than implants to PROVE THAT FILLERS ARE NOT ALWAYS SHIT AS YOU FIRST CLAIMED. GODDAMN YOU ARE RETARDED KILL YOURSELF.

Counter argument for this :

While it’s true that some fillers can migrate over time, this can often be prevented with proper technique, skilled injection, and appropriate product choice. Many modern fillers are designed to integrate into the tissue, providing long-lasting volume that maintains its structure. Additionally, certain fillers like Voluma or Sculptra are specifically designed for lifting and can last well beyond a year or two, giving subtle, natural-looking results. Customization of treatment, based on individual anatomy and goals, means results can be tailored to enhance angularity rather than detract from it. The "instant gratification" factor is an important part of the appeal, but it’s only part of the story. Skilled injectors know how to account for eventual changes in filler behavior.

 

[N1666]

God you're stupid. The title of the thread and the examples showcased are meant to prove that in specific, of course 'cherrypicked', cases fillers can be better than implants to PROVE THAT FILLERS ARE NOT ALWAYS SHIT AS YOU FIRST CLAIMED. GODDAMN YOU ARE RETARDED KILL YOURSELF.

Counter argument for this :

While it’s true that some fillers can migrate over time, this can often be prevented with proper technique, skilled injection, and appropriate product choice. Many modern fillers are designed to integrate into the tissue, providing long-lasting volume that maintains its structure. Additionally, certain fillers like Voluma or Sculptra are specifically designed for lifting and can last well beyond a year or two, giving subtle, natural-looking results. Customization of treatment, based on individual anatomy and goals, means results can be tailored to enhance angularity rather than detract from it. The "instant gratification" factor is an important part of the appeal, but it’s only part of the story. Skilled injectors know how to account for eventual changes in filler behavior.

chatgpt slop and more mindless insults, nice one pal real good argument

 

[N1666]

It is clear as day you are a troll trying to get a reaction out of me, you have provided no argument and have been wrong in everything you have said. Its over for you mate

 

[Mugwump]

Again, you misunderstood because you are a retarded faggot. Me stating that fillers are shit was in no way saying that they are the cause of your lack of pussy you subhuman freak. You said surgery is cope and then provided no surgical procedure, everyone on this site would agree that fillers arent surgery. The original point is that you said surgery is cope LMAOO whats so hard to understand?

no no no
you're, once again, making the same reasoning mistake its CRAZY
I can't believe it omg

Yes you implied that fillers, as they are not a surgical procedure, was the cause of my lack of pussy. You said that as they are not a real surgical procedure, this is the reason why I did not ascend, and that I should not be surprised of the deceiving outcome of my inceldom. So you were saying that non-surgical procedures can't ascend anyone because they're shit.
You started to fixate on this whole 'fillers are not surgery' bit like a little bitch to deviate from the fact that you said that fillers, aka non-surgical procedures, can't ascend someone.
hahaha its crazy how dumb you are

 

[Mugwump]

chatgpt slop and more mindless insults, nice one pal real good argument

chatgpt iq mogs you, you should read

 

[Mugwump]

It is clear as day you are a troll trying to get a reaction out of me, you have provided no argument and have been wrong in everything you have said. Its over for you mate

you're the troll lmao kys
You said fillers are shit. I proved you wrong with an example. Checkmate.

 

[lurking truecel]

Why you show submalar results ? They are ofc shit, you need high set cheekbone implants if you want it to look good

 

[Chinacurry]

What's your view on bletheroplasty with fat grafts?

 

[Mugwump]

Why you show submalar results ? They are ofc shit, you need high set cheekbone implants if you want it to look good

to prove the little nigger in this thread that in some cases fillers can mog implants
He thinks that fillers are always shit

 

[N1666]

no no no
you're, once again, making the same reasoning mistake its CRAZY
I can't believe it omg

Yes you implied that fillers, as they are not a surgical procedure, was the cause of my lack of pussy. You said that as they are not a real surgical procedure, this is the reason why I did not ascend, and that I should not be surprised of the deceiving outcome of my inceldom. So you were saying that non-surgical procedures can't ascend anyone because they're shit.
You started to fixate on this whole 'fillers are not surgery' bit like a little bitch to deviate from the fact that you said that fillers, aka non-surgical procedures, can't ascend someone.
hahaha its crazy how dumb you are

look at how you twist things, this has to be a mental illness with the way you think you are in the right

 

[Mugwump]

What's your view on bletheroplasty with fat grafts?

good surgery tbh

 

[Mugwump]

look at how you twist things, this has to be a mental illness with the way you think you are in the right

youre mentally ill asf haha you dont realize it

 

[lurking truecel]

to prove the little nigger in this thread that in some cases fillers can mog implants
He thinks that fillers are always shit

Yeah I mean filler looks really good but they are not so long-term

 

[chadintraining]

In the short term fillers mog, but def not in the long term due to potential risks such as migration

 

[Mugwump]

Yeah I mean filler looks really good but they are not so long-term

thats another topic of discussion. Personally I dont care about getting fillers every 2 years,idk why looksmaxers are obsessed with results being fully permanent

 

[Mugwump]

In the short term fillers results may mog, but def not in the long term due to potential risks such as migration

migration is a cope. It only migrates if you inject too much and it depends on the areas where you inject: undereyes and cheekbones are fine

 

[N1666]

Yeah I mean filler looks really good but they are not so long-term

In the short term fillers results may mog, but def not in the long term due to potential risks such as migration

That's what he cant understand, whole reason I sent this thread to him in the first place.

He's just mad he got botched with his fillers and is now dishing out his incel rage onto me

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Implants are better for adding mass and fillers for adding defintion.

 

[chadintraining]

migration is a cope. It only migrates if you inject too much and it depends on the areas where you inject: undereyes and cheekbones are fine

What about in places like the jaw or chin

Migration risk also depends on stuff like what type of filler is injected