They Want you Masturbating, Because They Understand Hormones

[RICO]

Semen retention is critical for the sexually dimorphic traits of males to manifest. Without it you become an undifferentiated un-gendered pawn.

Sexual dimorphism is primarily expressed via differing levels of testosterone and estradiol (estrogen in its biologically active form). The final controller of ALL hormone expression is the brain, and specifically the hypothalamus. The only intervention that works to increase testosterone is changing your brain structure. Masturbation is proven to do this.

Before we can even get semen retention, we have to understand how your body works, and the critically misunderstood roles that hormones play.

Why Testosterone?
Most of you, I'm sure, are already convinced about the beneficial effects of testosterone in men, but I want to give a brief overview of things you probably don't know.

Testosterone increases sociability. It increases connection to and participation in your milieu, this is true for both men and women. For women, this typically manifests as slutty behavior and ultimately ends up as cuckoldry, women with higher testosterone have sluttier faces (see attached pic). They also have greater sexual arousal levels:

Time course of effects of testosterone administration on sexual arousal in women - PubMed

There is a time lag in the effect of sublingually administered testosterone on genital arousal in women. In addition, a consecutive increase in vaginal arousal might cause higher genital sensations and sexual lust.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

For men however, testosterone decrease the incidence of lying and they are more cooperative with other men.

Testosterone administration reduces lying in men - PubMed

Lying is a pervasive phenomenon with important social and economic implications. However, despite substantial interest in the prevalence and determinants of lying, little is known about its biological foundations. Here we study a potential hormonal influence, focusing on the steroid hormone...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Men with high testosterone are the ancient ideal. They build, cooperate, and create civilization. Men with high testosterone are more driven to find not only mates, but to do all things! Testosterone receptors in the brain don't differentiate drive for sex from any other drive (that differentiation does occur, but requires other chemical receptors to be activated as well).

 

[dnrd]

what

 

[Deleted member 9890]

Based and androgenpilled

 

[Deleted member 9890]

Where is the connection between womens face + test

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

What if i inject test , can i fap ?

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Based

 

[Danish_Retard]

What if i inject test , can i fap ?

noooooooooooo u cant touch ur penis

 

[lutte]

noooooooooooo u cant touch ur penis

tales from the vr porn cinema

 

[RICO]

The Hypothalamus is King
Androgen/Testosterone boosting supplements do't work unless you are supplementing androgens higher than 100% of your baseline test production. To understand why this is, you have to first understand the Hp axes, and specifically the HPG axis. The hypothalamus acts as a prime regulator for almost all hormones related to growth, sex, and homeostasis.
Hypothalamus notices an increase level of testosterone? It stops producing GnRH. GnRH is a signal to your pituitary gland to make FSH (follicle-stimulating hormone) and LH (luteinizing hormone); these signal the gonads in men to create sperm and testosterone respectively (in women's gonads these signal menstruation and estrogen). So at all times your hypothalamus is listening to the levels of sex hormones, and is only releasing enough GnRH to keep them at what it believes to be proper homeostasis.
This is why only highly potent anabolic steroids are really the only things which appear to have a phenotypic response in humans. They overpower even the hypothalamus's ability to regulate testosterone. So when taking anabolic steroids your level of GnRH is basically zero. There is no activity on the HPG axis and it permanently changes your hypothalamus to produce less GnRH, and hence why you hear stories of anabolic steroids shrinking your balls and causing infertility.
So to maximize your GnRH you need to maximize the hormones which stimulate its production and minimize the ones that inhibit it.
There are many hormones which either stimulate or inhibit the production of GnRH, we will get into why fapping is one of the worst things you can do if you want to maximize GnRH next.

There are several other axes of the hypothalamus which should also be mentioned.
The hypothalamic-pituitary-prolactin axis (HPP) is responsible for lactation and mammary growth in females, but is also present in males. It is not directly self-inhibiting like HPG axis, but instead is inhibited by dopamine (this will seem contradictory at first, but is extremely important to understanding the dangers of masturbation). The main thing for now you should know is that excess prolactin causes typically feminine traits in men. The primary stimulating factor of HPP axis is estrogen. Remember this is the only axis which isn't a direct feedback loop! More estrogen will always mean more prolactin. Finally, the higher your prolactin is, the lower GnRH output will be, which means the lower testosterone will be in males.
The HPS axis has the ultimate byproduct of IGF-1, which is the most critical signal for muscle growth. HPS axis is stimulated by testosterone (via blunting the inhibitory effects of GH in the feed back loop).

 

[Htobrother]

Someone on trt doesn’t need to worry about this shit

 

[thereallegend]

People do everything to avoid semen retention. It's crazy. Day 148 here.

 

[RICO]

Masturbating and hormones
Now to put it all together. Orgasm elevates prolactin massively. prolactin causes a neurological effect of having little to no sexual desire, hence why you temporarily lose interest in porn you watch after ejaculation. Now recall the previous section: Prolactin tells the hypothalamus to lower GnRH; GnRH stimulates production of sperm and testosterone; testosterone increases masculine traits and increases social cohesion in men; it also increases expression of muscles via HPP axis.
Dopamine which is high during the build-up of masturbation inhibits the HPP axis through, so how can masturbation be causing and increase of prolactin? Well, the hypothalamus can be very intelligent at what it does. It understands context. Not only that, but the massive acute hit of dopamine you are getting causes something called a hormetric effect. Hormesis is a kind of like biological blowback effect, the hypothalamus is massively inhibited on its HPP axis and then to compensate, it releases even more prolactin than it normally would in all that time as a huge burst after orgasm. Not only that, it appears to have "aftershock" throughout the next few days and releases prolactin even more.
But it gets worse. At least with a single mate in a monogamous sexual relationship your dopamine wouldn't be massively elevated, but with access to unlimited high speed pornography your dopamine will spike to never before seen levels due to the coolidge effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooli...fect is a,but still available sexual partners). What does this mean? For days after masturbation you will have low testosterone.
But there's even more. The hypothalamus is a neurological structure. it learns and adapts. What does chronic masturbation and dopamine spiking do to the HPP axis? it makes it less and less sensitive to regular dopamine levels. Throughout the day its perfectly normal and healthy to have moderate level of dopamine, and especially for men. If HPP is no longer inhibited by this normal level of dopamine, then prolactin will be chronically elevated. Finally we get to the crux. Chronically elevated prolactin means a chronically inhibited HPG axis. A chronically inhibited HPG axis means chronically low levels of homeostatic testosterone.
This is why men of today have lower testosterone than the average 80 year old just 50 years ago.
This is why we have trannies developing feminine traits due to increased prolactin.


Now There's even more danger to all of this. We have a huge amount of xenoestrogens from overcompensation of plant based foods and hygiene products (you really should only be consuming meat). Estrogen stimulates the HPP axis even more, and we have blown our dopamine circuits to defend against them with acute chronic spiking. But the brain can heal and adapt.

Stop looking at porn. stop masturbating. Stop consuming xenoestrogens. Stay monogamous, and only have sex for the purpose of procreation.

 

[MiroslavBulldosex]

People do everything to avoid semen retention. It's crazy. Day 148 here.

You're probably low t.
How fucking retarded do you have to be to do this for that long. Nigger if at least you tried to find a girlfriend during that time it could have been useful.

 

[MiroslavBulldosex]

Semen retention is the biggest meme in the "manosphere".
Jfl if you think the most successful men on earth are retaining their semen.

 

[Deleted member 14392]

I've been masturbating 3 times daily since the start of my puberty

 

[RICO]

Extra Credit: Dangers of SSRIs (antidepressants), and Weed
SSRIs increase the re-uptake of serotonin in the brain. serotonin has an antagonist relationship with dopamine, which means if dopamine is high serotonin is low and vice-versa. SSPIs will chronically lower dopamine, not only take away your enjoyment of novelty, but once again activating the HHP axis.
Weed is made of cannabinoids. The body produces its own endocannabinoids which have receptors all throughout the nervous system. The hypothalamus is filled with CB receptors which have 2-AG (a natural endocannabinoid) as an agonist. 2-AG is released upon orgasm and is used in the adaptation process mentioned earlier to train the hypothalamus to be less responsive to dopamine.
What else is an agonist of CB1 receptor? THC. In fact THC is far more potent than 2-AG could ever be, meaning that every time you smoke weed, you adapt your hypothalamus to be even less responsive to dopamine than if you were masturbating to porn the entire time you were high. THC is bad news if you value testosterone.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

I read it (genuinely) it's legit

 

[Lux]

which is the high T one?

 

[St. Wristcel]

which is the high T one?

Left one obviously
look at the jaw width, jawline, cheekbones, and overall sharper features

 

[RICO]

What if i inject test , can i fap ?

I guess, but you will fuck up your hormonal homeostasis, permanently most likely. Will need to take testosterone therapeutically for the rest of your life to be normal.

 

[TITUS]

Based and coomerpilled.

 

[efidescontinuado]

Masturbating and hormones
Now to put it all together. Orgasm elevates prolactin massively. prolactin causes a neurological effect of having little to no sexual desire, hence why you temporarily lose interest in porn you watch after ejaculation. Now recall the previous section: Prolactin tells the hypothalamus to lower GnRH; GnRH stimulates production of sperm and testosterone; testosterone increases masculine traits and increases social cohesion in men; it also increases expression of muscles via HPP axis.
Dopamine which is high during the build-up of masturbation inhibits the HPP axis through, so how can masturbation be causing and increase of prolactin? Well, the hypothalamus can be very intelligent at what it does. It understands context. Not only that, but the massive acute hit of dopamine you are getting causes something called a hormetric effect. Hormesis is a kind of like biological blowback effect, the hypothalamus is massively inhibited on its HPP axis and then to compensate, it releases even more prolactin than it normally would in all that time as a huge burst after orgasm. Not only that, it appears to have "aftershock" throughout the next few days and releases prolactin even more.
But it gets worse. At least with a single mate in a monogamous sexual relationship your dopamine wouldn't be massively elevated, but with access to unlimited high speed pornography your dopamine will spike to never before seen levels due to the coolidge effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect#:~:text=The Coolidge effect is a,but still available sexual partners). What does this mean? For days after masturbation you will have low testosterone.
But there's even more. The hypothalamus is a neurological structure. it learns and adapts. What does chronic masturbation and dopamine spiking do to the HPP axis? it makes it less and less sensitive to regular dopamine levels. Throughout the day its perfectly normal and healthy to have moderate level of dopamine, and especially for men. If HPP is no longer inhibited by this normal level of dopamine, then prolactin will be chronically elevated. Finally we get to the crux. Chronically elevated prolactin means a chronically inhibited HPG axis. A chronically inhibited HPG axis means chronically low levels of homeostatic testosterone.
This is why men of today have lower testosterone than the average 80 year old just 50 years ago.
This is why we have trannies developing feminine traits due to increased prolactin.


Now There's even more danger to all of this. We have a huge amount of xenoestrogens from overcompensation of plant based foods and hygiene products (you really should only be consuming meat). Estrogen stimulates the HPP axis even more, and we have blown our dopamine circuits to defend against them with acute chronic spiking. But the brain can heal and adapt.

Stop looking at porn. stop masturbating. Stop consuming xenoestrogens. Stay monogamous, and only have sex for the purpose of procreation.


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thoughts on wet dreams?

 

[Howl]

Good info about test that (at leas I) already know. It doesn't mention anything specific about fapping though. Test levels peak after 6-7 days and after tyst they return to baseline.

I despise porn and the industry itself but this doesn't talk about anything like that. There are other benefits to nofap though of course.

 

[RICO]

To read more about the rapid decline in testosterone and fertility in men read my thread on the subject

Testosterone levels on decline. What are the implications

Is this, the low-T numale, the reason for the liberal takeover? How to increase testosterone?

looksmax.org

 

[RICO]

thoughts on wet dreams?

You're talking about Nocturnal emissions? Not many studies on this, I would hypothesis the prolactin release is negligible or nonexistent because the interest in sex persists right after. From personal experience I have never found myself to be less interested in sex after a wet dream, but more interested. A very interesting question.

 

[Adriana Lima]

Stellar thread young man

 

[Jerryterry129]

You new fags really know nothing
Just lmfao at that last pic you threw in there
That has nothing to do with testosterone

 

[Atem Rah]

From personal experience I have never found myself to be less interested in sex after a wet dream, but more interested. A very interesting question.

Tbh

 

[Muneeb]

Any idea on how to increase testosterone receptors in the brain I know l carnatine increases androgen receptors in the body but does that work in the brain too

 

[LifeIsACope]

I DONT CARE IM COOMING

 

[Mr.cope]

People do everything to avoid semen retention. It's crazy. Day 148 here.

So basically you aren’t fucking girls either
Basically Bragging about getting no pussy

 

[RICO]

Any idea on how to increase testosterone receptors in the brain I know l carnatine increases androgen receptors in the body but does that work in the brain too

Sleep more, stop smoking, stop drinking and go outside more.
Do your part, lads!

Sleep loss dramatically lowers testosterone in healthy young men​

Cutting back on sleep drastically reduces a healthy young man's testosterone levels, according to a new study.
www.sciencedaily.com
http://archive.is/JxQwc

Sleep loss dramatically lowers testosterone in healthy young men

The effects of sleep loss on testosterone levels were apparent after just one week of short sleep. Five hours of sleep decreased their testosterone levels by 10% to 15%. The young men had the lowest testosterone levels in the afternoons on their sleep restricted days, between 2 pm and 10 pm.

 

[RICO]

Sleep more, stop smoking, stop drinking and go outside more.
Do your part, lads!

Sleep loss dramatically lowers testosterone in healthy young men​

Cutting back on sleep drastically reduces a healthy young man's testosterone levels, according to a new study.
www.sciencedaily.com
http://archive.is/JxQwc

Sleep loss dramatically lowers testosterone in healthy young men

The effects of sleep loss on testosterone levels were apparent after just one week of short sleep. Five hours of sleep decreased their testosterone levels by 10% to 15%. The young men had the lowest testosterone levels in the afternoons on their sleep restricted days, between 2 pm and 10 pm.

 

[Deleted member 14274]

What if i inject test , can i fap ?

No, go get laid

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

To read more about the rapid decline in testosterone and fertility in men read my thread on the subject

Testosterone levels on decline. What are the implications

Is this, the low-T numale, the reason for the liberal takeover? How to increase testosterone?

looksmax.org

Here are just 4 basic things killing modern man's T.

• PUFAS
• The average body fat % of the modern man(20% is on the low side of the modern males body fat %, and even that's too high.
• Soy, phytoestrogens, xenoestrogens, and bpas.
• Even shit like finasteride destroys your testosterone( your dht specifically.

 

[kalefartbomb]

I think fapping is good but porn is bad. Older guys like me can remember being a kid pre-modern internet in the 90s, we had no on demand access to porn, as such we weren't spending all our time cooming and we didn't have the same problems of low test boys and androgynous freak trannies. You fapped when you had the overwhelming need to do it, which is natural and healthy. The coomer degenerate is only made possible by on demand porn, this is what needs to be cut out or reduced. I can remember being able to fap to nothing but thoughts, whereas your average 18 year old needs to watch black tranny gangbangs just to coom.

 

[thereallegend]

You're probably low t.
How fucking retarded do you have to be to do this for that long. Nigger if at least you tried to find a girlfriend during that time it could have been useful.

I get laid

 

[RICO]

I think fapping is good but porn is bad. Older guys like me can remember being a kid pre-modern internet in the 90s, we had no on demand access to porn, as such we weren't spending all our time cooming and we didn't have the same problems of low test boys and androgynous freak trannies. You fapped when you had the overwhelming need to do it, which is natural and healthy. The coomer degenerate is only made possible by on demand porn, this is what needs to be cut out or reduced. I can remember being able to fap to nothing but thoughts, whereas your average 18 year old needs to watch black tranny gangbangs just to coom.

Even the 90s generation was fapping too much, not as much as today, but still too much. Today kindergartners have phones and watch porn regularly, that generation will be beyond helping. Testosterone levels in males in western countries are in free fall. Fapping is just one big piece in this puzzle.

 

[RICO]

I think fapping is good but porn is bad. Older guys like me can remember being a kid pre-modern internet in the 90s, we had no on demand access to porn, as such we weren't spending all our time cooming and we didn't have the same problems of low test boys and androgynous freak trannies. You fapped when you had the overwhelming need to do it, which is natural and healthy. The coomer degenerate is only made possible by on demand porn, this is what needs to be cut out or reduced. I can remember being able to fap to nothing but thoughts, whereas your average 18 year old needs to watch black tranny gangbangs just to coom.

Testosterone levels have gone down dramatically in the past 40 years. They continue to go down a little every year.


If you're not currently eating, and sleeping well, and in the gym 4+ days per week, you're literally killing yourself.

They're actively erasing you from existence, if you're not fighting then you're dying.

 

[VeryFuglyNiyguhs]

Testosterone levels have gone down dramatically in the past 40 years. They continue to go down a little every year.


If you're not currently eating, and sleeping well, and in the gym 4+ days per week, you're literally killing yourself.

They're actively erasing you from existence, if you're not fighting then you're dying.


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The average man born my year(1999) still probably has more t than a man born 2009 by at least 10%

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

No, go get laid

What if I can't

 

[RICO]

The average man born my year(1999) still probably has more t than a man born 2009 by at least 10%

This video shows you how to increase testosterone by reducing contact with endocrine disruptors.

 

[quakociaptockh]

If I don't fap, will someone come to masturbate me?

 

[ChristianChad]

Good threads / copy pastas

 

[terrorblade]

is edging permissible then?

 

[efidescontinuado]

You're talking about Nocturnal emissions? Not many studies on this, I would hypothesis the prolactin release is negligible or nonexistent because the interest in sex persists right after. From personal experience I have never found myself to be less interested in sex after a wet dream, but more interested. A very interesting question.

Ngl when i have a wet dream it feels like a relapse, i can feel the sensation of climax in my dream and i feel like shit the next days, so I think the elevation in prolactin should be the same.

 

[ChristianChad]

is edging permissible then?

No that shit is bad

 

[sensen]

Semen retention is critical for the sexually dimorphic traits of males to manifest. Without it you become an undifferentiated un-gendered pawn.

Sexual dimorphism is primarily expressed via differing levels of testosterone and estradiol (estrogen in its biologically active form). The final controller of ALL hormone expression is the brain, and specifically the hypothalamus. The only intervention that works to increase testosterone is changing your brain structure. Masturbation is proven to do this.

Before we can even get semen retention, we have to understand how your body works, and the critically misunderstood roles that hormones play.

Why Testosterone?
Most of you, I'm sure, are already convinced about the beneficial effects of testosterone in men, but I want to give a brief overview of things you probably don't know.

Testosterone increases sociability. It increases connection to and participation in your milieu, this is true for both men and women. For women, this typically manifests as slutty behavior and ultimately ends up as cuckoldry, women with higher testosterone have sluttier faces (see attached pic). They also have greater sexual arousal levels:

Time course of effects of testosterone administration on sexual arousal in women - PubMed

There is a time lag in the effect of sublingually administered testosterone on genital arousal in women. In addition, a consecutive increase in vaginal arousal might cause higher genital sensations and sexual lust.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

For men however, testosterone decrease the incidence of lying and they are more cooperative with other men.

Testosterone administration reduces lying in men - PubMed

Lying is a pervasive phenomenon with important social and economic implications. However, despite substantial interest in the prevalence and determinants of lying, little is known about its biological foundations. Here we study a potential hormonal influence, focusing on the steroid hormone...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Men with high testosterone are the ancient ideal. They build, cooperate, and create civilization. Men with high testosterone are more driven to find not only mates, but to do all things! Testosterone receptors in the brain don't differentiate drive for sex from any other drive (that differentiation does occur, but requires other chemical receptors to be activated as well).


View attachment 1226763

talk about high estrogen, which i believe is just as critical as low t

I got my test checked because I thought I had low t after two years of depression/extreme anxiety and panic attacks.. was guessing it would be around 250 or so..


800. It was 800. Even with the PUFAs and the anxiety and lack of sleep and depression and low confidence. But my estradiol was way higher than normal. So now I'm trying to get that down as I figured that must be the biggest sum of my problems.

 

[RICO]

talk about high estrogen, which i believe is just as critical as low t

I got my test checked because I thought I had low t after two years of depression/extreme anxiety and panic attacks.. was guessing it would be around 250 or so..


800. It was 800. Even with the PUFAs and the anxiety and lack of sleep and depression and low confidence. But my estradiol was way higher than normal. So now I'm trying to get that down as I figured that must be the biggest sum of my problems.

watch this, will answer all your questions.

 

[Genny]

Truly enormous, incredible gains. Thanks for the insight.