Thinking about rhino and cantho

[glumfruitcake]

I’m 19 right now and thinking about hardmaxxing in the next few years. I’m thinking rhino and cantho. I know I’d probably also benefit from bsso or double jaw but not sure if it’d be needed. What do you guys think for potential hardmaxxes.

 

[vermicel]

What do you guys think for potential hardmaxxes.

Your jaw looks above average from the front (which matters the most) and good enough from the side. No surgery needed.

No cantho(plasty/pexy) needed either. What you can do to improve your eye area is (1) growing thicker eyebrows with minoxidil + microneedling, (2) growing longer eyelashes with Latisse/bimatoprost. In other words : softmaxxing only.
Your undereyes seem prone to eyebags and darker coloring (blue hues), so watch out and take appropriate measures later in life, if need be.

Rhino : yes.

Gotta shorten that philtrum too. So lip lift. Ask the surgeon to augment the upper lip moderately and to focus on shortening the philtrum.

A lil morph while we're at it :

I also corrected the bloodshot eyes. If it happens to you often, look into Visine and alternatives like Lumify.
If your chin is asymmetric (as suggested in this pic), you could correct it with a genioplasty.

 

[glumfruitcake]

Your jaw looks above average from the front (which matters the most) and good enough from the side. No surgery needed.

No cantho(plasty/pexy) needed either. What you can do to improve your eye area is (1) growing thicker eyebrows with minoxidil + microneedling, (2) growing longer eyelashes with Latisse/bimatoprost. In other words : softmaxxing only.
Your undereyes seem prone to eyebags and darker coloring (blue hues), so watch out and take appropriate measures later in life, if need be.

Rhino : yes.

Gotta shorten that philtrum too. So lip lift. Ask the surgeon to augment the upper lip moderately and to focus on shortening the philtrum.

A lil morph while we're at it :
View attachment 5065375

I also corrected the bloodshot eyes. If it happens to you often, look into Visine and alternatives like Lumify.
If your chin is asymmetric (as suggested in this pic), you could correct it with a genioplasty.

Thanks man this helps a lot

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

Yeah Agree

Your jaw looks above average from the front (which matters the most) and good enough from the side. No surgery needed.

No cantho(plasty/pexy) needed either. What you can do to improve your eye area is (1) growing thicker eyebrows with minoxidil + microneedling, (2) growing longer eyelashes with Latisse/bimatoprost. In other words : softmaxxing only.
Your undereyes seem prone to eyebags and darker coloring (blue hues), so watch out and take appropriate measures later in life, if need be.

Rhino : yes.

Gotta shorten that philtrum too. So lip lift. Ask the surgeon to augment the upper lip moderately and to focus on shortening the philtrum.

A lil morph while we're at it :
View attachment 5065375

I also corrected the bloodshot eyes. If it happens to you often, look into Visine and alternatives like Lumify.
If your chin is asymmetric (as suggested in this pic), you could correct it with a genioplasty.

Yeah I agree with this. Rhino so be fairly easy to do on your since a lot of your nose is already decent just needs some refinement along the dorsum and tip.

 

[Jgns]

Your jaw looks above average from the front (which matters the most) and good enough from the side. No surgery needed.

No cantho(plasty/pexy) needed either. What you can do to improve your eye area is (1) growing thicker eyebrows with minoxidil + microneedling, (2) growing longer eyelashes with Latisse/bimatoprost. In other words : softmaxxing only.
Your undereyes seem prone to eyebags and darker coloring (blue hues), so watch out and take appropriate measures later in life, if need be.

Rhino : yes.

Gotta shorten that philtrum too. So lip lift. Ask the surgeon to augment the upper lip moderately and to focus on shortening the philtrum.

A lil morph while we're at it :
View attachment 5065375

I also corrected the bloodshot eyes. If it happens to you often, look into Visine and alternatives like Lumify.
If your chin is asymmetric (as suggested in this pic), you could correct it with a genioplasty.

Srry about derailing the thread dude but I got a question given that ur really knowledgeable plus I think it could help alot of people. Off the top of your head what surgeons would U recommend for eye work (cantho, fat grafting) in turkey? And Im also wondering if U have any recommendations for like lip surgeons in turkey (liplift, or vermillion advancement im pretty unsure on that one but it seems interesting). I saw ur two recommendations for rhino tho they seem pretty good.

 

[zemult]

What exactly would you be getting cantho for? Jfl

 

[nishka]

Your jaw looks above average from the front (which matters the most) and good enough from the side. No surgery needed.

No cantho(plasty/pexy) needed either. What you can do to improve your eye area is (1) growing thicker eyebrows with minoxidil + microneedling, (2) growing longer eyelashes with Latisse/bimatoprost. In other words : softmaxxing only.
Your undereyes seem prone to eyebags and darker coloring (blue hues), so watch out and take appropriate measures later in life, if need be.

Rhino : yes.

Gotta shorten that philtrum too. So lip lift. Ask the surgeon to augment the upper lip moderately and to focus on shortening the philtrum.

A lil morph while we're at it :
View attachment 5065375

I also corrected the bloodshot eyes. If it happens to you often, look into Visine and alternatives like Lumify.
If your chin is asymmetric (as suggested in this pic), you could correct it with a genioplasty.

Surgeon can shorten philtrum without increasing upper lip show?

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

Surgeon can shorten philtrum without increasing upper lip show?

They'd be some additional central lip show, but minimal.

You have to account for the fact that, again it only effects the upper lip centrally and that the lip will roll out not go straight up.

 

[vermicel]

@glumfruitcake to complete my previous post, here's a morph of the side profile, simulating what you may achieve with a rhinoplasty + lip lift + genioplasty (assuming you may undergo one to fix frontal asymmetry as well) + eyebrows & eyelashes softmaxxing :

I think it would make quite a nice difference.
Ideally, you would benefit from further projection around the nasion & brow ridge, as shown below.

... but don't focus too much on your side profile, unless the flaws from the side affect the front profile or are shared in common (e.g. chin frontal asymmetry & horizontal retrusion).
To illustrate how the side profile matters much less in real life, here's an anecdote : I was shopping online the other day, and started to pay attention to the (White) models' side profiles. Guess what ? The MAJORITY of them had a downgrown and/or recessed jaw, often combined with other flaws like a crooked nose, flat brow ridge, short ramus, negative orbital vector, etc. ... we're talking about models signed with major agencies and being the faces of very big brands, not your local amateur hmtn's posing for their friends' stillborn fashion project. Look at them (and, yeah, I had to morph them to emphasize how flawed their side is) :

They all look good from the front though.

Off the top of your head what surgeons would U recommend for eye work (cantho, fat grafting) in turkey?

I haven't been down that rabbit hole yet. In Turkey, I have only saved these 3 names :
https://aysedolarbilge.com/ Dr. Ayse Dolar Bilge
https://www.instagram.com/_ophthalmologist/ Dr. Nilgun Demet Ozcelik
https://www.instagram.com/drgunaygezer/ Dr. Gunay Gezer

Bossman is much more educated than me on the topic, and here's what he had to say about Bilge & Ozcelik :

Dr Ayse? Depends what for. I’ve consulted her in person and spoken to her quite a bit.

She’s a capable, honest oculoplastic surgeon who will not jeopardise your safety. However her pricing is on par with Western surgeons despite not having the same skillset.

I would not recommend her for ptosis as she was absolutely clueless in my case.

She is good with blepharoplasty. She has good results of doing lower lid retraction repair with spacer grafts, but not every oculoplastic surgeon agrees with her approach of using ear cartilage. But this is a very helpful surgery for hunter eyes.

She does not seem to have much experience with canthoplasty or canthopexy and I’d go to someone else for that.

OP went to Nilgun Demet Ozcelik who has far more dramatic results, but also a more questionable reputation. Personally I wouldn’t risk it, but it’s not a bad budget option.

TransactionalLife2 had a canthoplasty & upper bleph recently done by Ozcelik.
And Gezer was just mentioned in passing on the forum.

And Im also wondering if U have any recommendations for like lip surgeons in turkey (liplift, or vermillion advancement im pretty unsure on that one but it seems interesting).

I can't make any such recommendation.
Dr. Teoman Dogan was highlighted by Lurking Truecel a few months ago for his so-called "scarless lip lift technique", but it turned out to be bogus (?), or not as interesting as it was initially cracked out to be. Moreover, based on his rhinoplasty fees, I expect this mf'er to charge a hefty sum of money.
Your best lead is to subscribe to the largest FB group about plastic surgery in Turkey, and to use the search function to find testimonies about lip lifts in particular. As always, ultimately you want a surgeon who performs this procedure frequently enough, and who can show you a large portfolio of convincing results.

 

[Jgns]

@glumfruitcake to complete my previous post, here's a morph of the side profile, simulating what you may achieve with a rhinoplasty + lip lift + genioplasty (assuming you may undergo one to fix frontal asymmetry as well) + eyebrows & eyelashes softmaxxing :

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I think it would make quite a nice difference.
Ideally, you would benefit from further projection around the nasion & brow ridge, as shown below.

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... but don't focus too much on your side profile, unless the flaws from the side affect the front profile or are shared in common (e.g. chin frontal asymmetry & horizontal retrusion).
To illustrate how the side profile matters much less in real life, here's an anecdote : I was shopping online the other day, and started to pay attention to the (White) models' side profiles. Guess what ? The MAJORITY of them had a downgrown and/or recessed jaw, often combined with other flaws like a crooked nose, flat brow ridge, short ramus, negative orbital vector, etc. ... we're talking about models signed with major agencies and being the faces of very big brands, not your local amateur hmtn's posing for their friends' stillborn project. Look at them (and, yeah, I had to morph them to emphasize how flawed their side is) :

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They all look good from the front though.


I haven't been down that rabbit hole yet. In Turkey, I have only saved these 3 names :
https://aysedolarbilge.com/ Dr. Ayse Dolar Bilge
https://www.instagram.com/_ophthalmologist/ Dr. Nilgun Demet Ozcelik
https://www.instagram.com/drgunaygezer/ Dr. Gunay Gezer

Bossman is much more educated than me on the topic, and here's what he had to say about Bilge & Ozcelik :

Dr Ayse? Depends what for. I’ve consulted her in person and spoken to her quite a bit.

She’s a capable, honest oculoplastic surgeon who will not jeopardise your safety. However her pricing is on par with Western surgeons despite not having the same skillset.

I would not recommend her for ptosis as she was absolutely clueless in my case.

She is good with blepharoplasty. She has good results of doing lower lid retraction repair with spacer grafts, but not every oculoplastic surgeon agrees with her approach of using ear cartilage. But this is a very helpful surgery for hunter eyes.

She does not seem to have much experience with canthoplasty or canthopexy and I’d go to someone else for that.

OP went to Nilgun Demet Ozcelik who has far more dramatic results, but also a more questionable reputation. Personally I wouldn’t risk it, but it’s not a bad budget option.

TransactionalLife2 had a canthoplasty & upper bleph recently done by Ozcelik.
And Gezer was just mentioned in passing on the forum.


I can't make any such recommendation.
Dr. Teoman Dogan was highlighted by Lurking Truecel a few months ago for his so-called "scarless lip lift technique", but it turned out to be bogus (?), or not as interesting as it was initially cracked out to be. Moreover, based on his rhinoplasty fees, I expect this mf'er to charge a hefty sum of money.
Your best lead is to subscribe to the largest FB group about plastic surgery in Turkey, and to use the search function to find testimonies about lip lifts in particular. As always, ultimately you want a surgeon who performs this procedure frequently enough, and who can show you a large portfolio of convincing results.

tysm for that, was also planning inframalar implants but im worried about those too jfl. hopefully bossman can comeback soon I got so much to ask him now. imma look into those names u mentioned and look into a fb group ty bro

 

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Is this what @lurking truecel means when he says ‘having surgery for fun’?

 

[glumfruitcake]

Is this what @lurking truecel means when he says ‘having surgery for fun’?

Wat u mean

 

[no cope]

Classic Trimax+ rhino+ browridge implant. I gave you a lot of advancement but this is a sort of realistic result. I would do a trimax then rhino then implant ideally.

 

[lurking truecel]

Is this what @lurking truecel means when he says ‘having surgery for fun’?

Juat ripp yourself up for the love of the game

 

[stigmaboy]

@nishka
tier 7.5ish maybe 8.

failos:
- eye area midface harmony. eye tilt is off. midface looks weak.
- philtrum too long.
- jawline okay but could be sharper.

rhino + cantho are overkill imo. focus on midface. a good surgeon can shorten philtrum without much lip show. maybe a subtle nose tip refinement. genio if u want sharper jaw.