this dude on reddit agreed to a 12mm mandibular setback to fix his underbite and cucked himself hard asf

[LooksmaxxHopeful]

Hard not to be when a surgery you've been waiting for 10+ years to look like a human being gets shit on when you're trying to relearn to like your face :/

But I get your point and I agree...

And btw I can only see your side profile but you're definitely not sub-human or anything like that , guys just over-exaggerate on this forum.

 

[MazeFly]

You gotta understand the "disrespect" on this forum is just banter, it's an all-male forum, you've never heard of guys roasting each other in the locker room or whatever? Your male friends roast you, etc.?

We're not like women who tell our fat friends they're beautiful

People tell each other to off themselves regularly on this forum for basically no reason, it's just banter, don't take it too personally.

I think it's a mix of people viewing it as lighthearted, and people who are serious about it. I guess it's common in male socializing to mock men who take absurdity seriously, and the mockery is a lesson for them to go about life having less blind trust. In high trust, "good people" social circles, this sort of thing can lack. I certainly wasn't exposed to any of it until a certain age, and while I see its utility, never grew to like it. It just feels lower stress and less energy draining to be able to blindly trust people, at least those you consider friends. However, since this sort of things is plenty common in the world, I do see the utility of having a circle of friends who prepare you for it through exposure. Nevertheless, I think I'm on balance glad I wasn't in my earlier years, and developed in a slightly sheltered environment.

I think what makes this forum unique is that there is an unusually high prevalence of young people who are easily influenced and will take everything literally, and the line between reality and joke is often blurred. This guy had a genuinely suboptimal jaw surgery outcome. Some people are roasting him for being a subhuman, but don't entirely take it seriously. Others speculate wildly misguided things about the deficits in his jaw surgery planning. Others yet suggest LF2/LF3, no idea whether they're serious or not. Even this sort of aspie rant about whether or not specific things are or are not meant as a joke would be mocked by this same sort of attitude of everything being clown world.

I think the world would benefit from people overall being more aspie and literal, trying to communicate in a more precise manner, but ideally paired with the social awareness to go with the jester flow sometimes. It seems most people either go with this flow and find aspie literal communication boring and stiff, or they communicate like aspies, and have no ability to understand the less literal communication of those who don't. The ability to understand and be able to communicate in both styles, and translate from less precise "feels speech" to precise speech is IMO one of the character traits women actually find appealing. It gives you the ability to translate their own nonsense internal narrative into something more coherent that they can actually work with. Lots of praise given if you can do that IME, your mileage may vary.

 

[Clark]

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i hope she gets run over by a truck

Amen

 

[LooksmaxxHopeful]

Watch this dude become a regular forum member from PSL autists roasting him

 

[MazeFly]

Watch this dude become a regular forum member from PSL autists roasting him

He has me on reddit as a translator for the most useful looks concept takeaways (I'm a member of the old forums long ago that isn't really interested in being an active poster or reader of such forums these days). If he values his sanity, that better be enough, lmao.

 

[DeadCube]

Watch this dude become a regular forum member from PSL autists roasting him

nah i'm good, just keeping up to date with this thread until it hopefully goes away lmao

 

[Clark]

I think it's a mix of people viewing it as lighthearted, and people who are serious about it. I guess it's common in male socializing to mock men who take absurdity seriously, and the mockery is a lesson for them to go about life having less blind trust. In high trust, "good people" social circles, this sort of thing can lack. I certainly wasn't exposed to any of it until a certain age, and while I see its utility, never grew to like it. It just feels lower stress and less energy draining to be able to blindly trust people, at least those you consider friends. However, since this sort of things is plenty common in the world, I do see the utility of having a circle of friends who prepare you for it through exposure. Nevertheless, I think I'm on balance glad I wasn't in my earlier years, and developed in a slightly sheltered environment.

I think what makes this forum unique is that there is an unusually high prevalence of young people who are easily influenced and will take everything literally, and the line between reality and joke is often blurred. This guy had a genuinely suboptimal jaw surgery outcome. Some people are roasting him for being a subhuman, but don't entirely take it seriously. Others speculate wildly misguided things about the deficits in his jaw surgery planning. Others yet suggest LF2/LF3, no idea whether they're serious or not. Even this sort of aspie rant about whether or not specific things are or are not meant as a joke would be mocked by this same sort of attitude of everything being clown world.

I think the world would benefit from people overall being more aspie and literal, trying to communicate in a more precise manner, but ideally paired with the social awareness to go with the jester flow sometimes. It seems most people either go with this flow and find aspie literal communication boring and stiff, or they communicate like aspies, and have no ability to understand the less literal communication of those who don't. The ability to understand and be able to communicate in both styles, and translate from less precise "feels speech" to precise speech is IMO one of the character traits women actually find appealing. It gives you the ability to translate their own nonsense internal narrative into something more coherent that they can actually work with. Lots of praise given if you can do that IME, your mileage may vary.

 

[Clark]

nah i'm good, just keeping up to date with this thread until it hopefully goes away lmao

Stop ruining your mental health listening to these idiots, Just ignore this nonsense.

 

[NZb6Air]

Wouldve been fucked if he advanced maxilla too, he needs lefort 3 for this shit @NZb6Air

Unironically he couldve done double jaw surgery and then infras + supras

just give the nigga lefort 3 and stop coping chat

 

[Pakicel]

Still an improvement over before. Id just go to pags for genio and infras+supras if he is still not happy.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

LOLOL SUBHUMAN

 

[NZb6Air]

Now I can see what you're thinking, "YeS bUt WiTh LeFoRt 2 oR 3..." lefort 2 is an extremely invasive procedure with a 10% mortality rate and perma blindness risks which most surgeons will never accept to do other than for huge trauma due to an accident or else. Lefort 3 is even more rare and worst.

Wouldve been fucked if he advanced maxilla too, he needs lefort 3 for this shit @NZb6Air

Unironically he couldve done double jaw surgery and then infras + supras

Nigga I just read this shit, this nigger said Lefort 2 has 10% mortality rate

also no implants cause need to move nasion forward too

 

[iblamemygenes]

FUCK this makes me so angry the IGNORANCE and lack of CRANIOFACIAL FUCKING KNOWLEDGE A SO-CALLED "SURGEON" HAS

don't worry my fellow Brazilian street-shitters only six more years and I will be a plastic surgeon, I am already done with my degree in biology for now ...

Are you going to med school

 

[kana]

Are you going to med school

yea

 

[billymidnight]

Bump

 

[Mr.Proper]

His immature reaction and attitude make you lose all the simpathy you could have for him, denial in rage and coping while using slurs and that kind of language. You post your face on the internet, you get ready for criticism and being bring down to earth.
Although he calmed down later a bit.
People here are rude but much less likely to gaslight you and most of people don't actually wish you anything bad (unless you make an arrogant fouche out of yourself or so).

 

[matthewpham2018]

He has me on reddit as a translator for the most useful looks concept takeaways (I'm a member of the old forums long ago that isn't really interested in being an active poster or reader of such forums these days). If he values his sanity, that better be enough, lmao.

hey @MazeFly you seem really knowledgeable, could i send a message for some advice?

 

[Weed]

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[Weed]

This is the best thread I've read this year, throw this shit into the "Best of the best" section.. This thread mogs bunch of worthless and useless dnrd threads with bazillion keywords on how to bonesmash

 

[Tenzen Thenziro]

never go to a bluepilled muh functionality is all that matters surgeon

I had the same condition as a kid, the doctor told my mom I should get braces, from 12 to 18 wearing that shit, my side profile looks good, normal chin, kinda recessed, gonna use palate expanders, doctor bluepilled small cock motherfucker

 

[Weed]

His will look like an absolute baboon if they advance his maxilla forward too much, so setback is required.

The problem is when dumbass surgeons overdo it in either direction.

Yeah ideally surgeon moves both mandible and maxilla to meet more or less in the middle

 

[reptiles]

His will look like an absolute baboon if they advance his maxilla forward too much, so setback is required.

The problem is when dumbass surgeons overdo it in either direction.

Shit morph I did cause I can't fix the chin and I find that area difficult but I think this would be better than his current results even this pile of shit

 

[DeadCube]

His immature reaction and attitude make you lose all the simpathy you could have for him, denial in rage and coping while using slurs and that kind of language. You post your face on the internet, you get ready for criticism and being bring down to earth.
Although he calmed down later a bit.
People here are rude but much less likely to gaslight you and most of people don't actually wish you anything bad (unless you make an arrogant fouche out of yourself or so).

when the Fuck did I use slurs except when directly quoting you guys lmao, Denial in rage cause I was getting personally attacked not cause I don't agree lol, some of the point brought forward were good...

 

[DeadCube]

Also I really wanted the thread to die/get deleted but since it's somehow revived and you guys can't let it go, here's a new pic I took while at the gym last time: muscles and bones are still shaping/morphing and will be for at least another 8th months but as you can see, except for the lacking chin projection, it already improved a lot imo:

and here's a photoshop I did just now of my jaw getting rotated counter clockwise instead of clockwise like it was done in order to "improve my smile" (I didn't ask for this he did it himself) which I think looks a lot better but sadly there's not really any going back

 

[Mr.Proper]

when the Fuck did I use slurs except when directly quoting you guys lmao, Denial in rage cause I was getting personally attacked not cause I don't agree lol, some of the point brought forward were good...

The trolls are feeding of reaction, and by emotionally reacting and getting super defensive you take their bait and give them what they expect. If there is calm reaction, something like "Okay, provide a constructive criticism and say what you thibk is wrong without roasting me personally", it gets boring and the people who are left are more on topic.

 

[Weed]

Also I really wanted the thread to die/get deleted but since it's somehow revived and you guys can't let it go, here's a new pic I took while at the gym last time: muscles and bones are still shaping/morphing and will be for at least another 8th months but as you can see, except for the lacking chin projection, it already improved a lot imo:

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and here's a photoshop I did just now of my jaw getting rotated counter clockwise instead of clockwise like it was done in order to "improve my smile" (I didn't ask for this he did it himself) which I think looks a lot better but sadly there's not really any going back

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Are you planning on getting sliding genio later on? Like other guy said, sliding genio + jaw implants would ascend u

 

[DeadCube]

Are you planning on getting sliding genio later on? Like other guy said, sliding genio + jaw implants would ascend u

idk about the jaw implants as i'm not really into "looksmaxing" and did this surgery in the first place mainly for functionality reasons than look reasons... as long as I look "normal/slightly better than average" I'll be fine... :/

but genio once i'm done healing is really probable depending on if I still dislike/feel like i'm lacking chin projection. I met my surgeon this week and he did say the cheeks and upper lip is supposed to dial down/retract a bit so it might help, we'll see. If it was free than I say yes without a doubt i'll get one, it's the money that's making me value the pros and cons for now :/ I don't have much as a full time UNI student lmao...

you need to be careful with strictly doing a genio without moving the jaw itself though... sometimes the skin in between the chin and bottom lip doesn't follow properly and you end up looking like a crescent moon

 

[futurechadLitee]

ye this shit happens when youve got a recessed maxilla
no fix for this shit either but lefort 2-3 but i guess you can camouflage it with implants

nokia angel?

 

[Weed]

idk about the jaw implants as i'm not really into "looksmaxing" and did this surgery in the first place mainly for functionality reasons than look reasons... as long as I look "normal/slightly better than average" I'll be fine... :/

but genio once i'm done healing is really probable depending on if I still dislike/feel like i'm lacking chin projection. I met my surgeon this week and he did say the cheeks and upper lip is supposed to dial down/retract a bit so it might help, we'll see. If it was free than I say yes without a doubt i'll get one, it's the money that's making me value the pros and cons for now :/ I don't have much as a full time UNI student lmao...

you need to be careful with strictly doing a genio without moving the jaw itself though... sometimes the skin in between the chin and bottom lip doesn't follow properly and you end up looking like a crescent moon

No, you won’t be fine nigga

 

[DeadCube]

No, you won’t be fine nigga

ok

 

[CristianT]

hey losers, low iq retard cuck femboy maxxing tranny here!

Look you're all entitled to your own opinions and some of you have brought valuable points, I just wish the way they came up was done differently.

Here, let me get some facts straight: I did not solely get a lower jaw setback... yes I got a 1.2mm setback (which was actually 9mm setback bonewise) since my lower jaw was extremely overdeveloped (we're talking a lot above normal, a setback was NECESSARY) but I also got a 7mm upper jaw lefort 1 with bone transplant. Now some of you have brought up the point that to maintain more lower jaw I should have upped the number of the lefort 1. Which is a completely valid point and a real worry I had at the start, I loved my lower jaw and see your point that now it looks "recessed"
The thing is, my midface is also recessed... if you look at the xrays you guys so kindly posted, from the bottom of my forehead to the start of my maxilla, there is a clear greater than normal curve. This problem makes it so that any more than 7mm would have made it look extremely protruded and worse. Why do I know this? because my surgeon who'm is supposedly low iq btw took about 40min during surgery to use tools and hard plastic plates to simulate different changes WHICH he, after each simulation, asked his team and other surgeons present their opinion on it. All of them, yes, all of them, voted for the measurement which have been done to me.

Now I can see what you're thinking, "YeS bUt WiTh LeFoRt 2 oR 3..." lefort 2 is an extremely invasive procedure with a 10% mortality rate and perma blindness risks which most surgeons will never accept to do other than for huge trauma due to an accident or else. Lefort 3 is even more rare and worst.

"oK, wHaT aBoUt ChEeK iMpLaNtS"

The surgery I got was paid by my government, apart from teeth treatments which I had to pay, the surgery itself cost me 0$, while this is amazing and wow oh so fun, it also means it came with limitations as to what I could ask for. The surgery otherwise would have cost me 42 000$. Meaning no, since it was getting paid for, I did not have the liberties to ask for cheek implants. And canceling it to ask for second opinions or another surgeon (granted the one I had has thousands of cases and gives classes and conferences in spain and france) would have put me back on the waiting list for another year or 2.

I got this surgery yes for aesthetics, but mostly for practical reasons, Ever since I was young I couldn't smile or close my mouth, there was always an almost 2cm gap between the 2. Now, for the first time ever, I can smile. I can close my mouth and this shit actually touches which is mind blowing to me.

The only valid point which was made here and which I will greatly consider is getting a genioplastie, everything else is bs and uninformed. I was born with what I was born with and so far have been pretty successful.

Could the surgery have been better? Perhaps. Could I have ended up way better looking with a bit more liberties? Surely. Is this a bad result considering the very real surgical limits? I think it isn't

keep in mind the photo you guys so kindly posted is me a month after surgery where i'm still swollen to all hell... this shit takes about a year to fully heal and my face will change A LOT

I have made some photoshops of different measurements and most of them end up looking worst.

the only one which isn't too bad is the other option one of you talked about earlier which was a 8-9mm advancement and a 10-9mm setback. While it does make me end up looking monkey-like, it fits my face and doesn't look bad, is it better than what I have now tho, it is debatable.

You guys have no idea how much any of this shit can impact someone trying to heal and relearn to like his face... I don't know what you all are expecting from this, me to be depressed and kill myself? me to waste all my money in superficial surgeries? like what's the end goal here...

anyways, no hard feelings to everyone involved, it's the internet, fucked shit happens all the time.

at the end of the day, my life wouldn't change if all of you were to die right now, so i'll keep being me, and you keep being you

Cheers

(now i'm sure this will spark even more hate towards me and y'all will flame the shit out of me and continue to "bully me" and to that I say: please at least be original, all of this is getting redundant...)

Surgery was a total failure, im sorry - not even being mean just real.

I just had a friend who got le fort 2 and he recovered in 3 days, take care from where you take your information.

You need more surgeries(implants includes) if you want to look above average and a bimax revision. Remember being average today is not a good thing, competition is very high.

 

[DeadCube]

Surgery was a total failure, im sorry - not even being mean just real.

I just had a friend who got le fort 2 and he recovered in 3 days, take care from where you take your information.

You need more surgeries(implants includes) if you want to look above average and a bimax revision. Remember being average today is not a good thing, competition is very high.

who the fuck's your friend? Captain america?!??! it's like you're telling me you know a guy who's leg was broken and 3 days later he was running on it.

what do you mean by recovered, we're talking cut bones here, no bones can recover in 3 days

also surgery wasn't a failure at all, if we're talking for "looksmaxxing" I agree it was bad, but I got this surgery for functionality and to look normal (aka not like a troll from world of warcraft), i'd say it's done pretty good for that.


look guys, i'm not 12-16 years old creating threads like: "what does a blowjob feel like" (real thread I saw) like most of you on here... I've done pretty good so far... Looks are important but only on the superficial level. As long as you're not piss ugly neckbeard no shower pimple no teeth andy, Knowing how to talk to girls, being charismatic and being in shape will get you way further than no personality but a flawless Greek god face profile ever will...

 

[DeadCube]

This will be probably my last post on here forever but let me try and closing this thread by saying:

if you think I was better before and that this:

is better than this:

you're kinda wack lowkey... Because IMO, comparing the 2, No matter how much you guys think the surgery was bad and ruined me and blablabla, It's a fact that I got objectively more attractive by societal norms. Am I perfect? far from it... Am I really attractive? Far from it. Do I look bad/ugly? I don't think I do.

I'll prob get a genio tho but we'll see.

anyways it's clear some of you won't change your mind and It isn't in my best interest to change mine either since i'm stuck with this new face for a while no matter if I want to get surgeries or not. Therefore, I kindly ask, if you don't have anything positive to say or actually helpful, just don't say it... every mean or negative opinions has already been said so kindly stfu. This thread fucked my mental for a while and in a way still does. Most of you won't care cause i'm just a "funny loser internet person" but this typa shit really fucks with your head, especially when you JUST got the surgery and are still under the SHOCK from not recognizing yourself in the mirror after having a different face for 20+ years.

Anyways, internet people, those who are reading this and don't give a shit, feel free to call me slurs and ugly and subhuman and stuff, If my hurting can make you feel better, by all means, go ahead. I wish you all a nice life.

 

[xnj]

before:

after:

jfl at this shit result lmfao, dude was posting on r/jawsurgery prior getting shit done and asking about the efficacy of his surgeons plans which were ofc shit and dudes on there told him its insane but of course the foids on there had to be all smarter than thou and called out the dudes for their incel looksmaxxing mentalities and told this guy to trust the surgeons words and jfl at his results



hes now coping and trying to come to terms with his results

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jfl at this retarded foid cucking him and saying "dont worry cuck boy just fuck up your looks boyo tee hee!"

shoulda just gone for cw rotation, idiot

 

[symphony]

who the fuck's your friend? Captain america?!??! it's like you're telling me you know a guy who's leg was broken and 3 days later he was running on it.

what do you mean by recovered, we're talking cut bones here, no bones can recover in 3 days

also surgery wasn't a failure at all, if we're talking for "looksmaxxing" I agree it was bad, but I got this surgery for functionality and to look normal (aka not like a troll from world of warcraft), i'd say it's done pretty good for that.


look guys, i'm not 12-16 years old creating threads like: "what does a blowjob feel like" (real thread I saw) like most of you on here... I've done pretty good so far... Looks are important but only on the superficial level. As long as you're not piss ugly neckbeard no shower pimple no teeth andy, Knowing how to talk to girls, being charismatic and being in shape will get you way further than no personality but a flawless Greek god face profile ever will...

What does a blowjob feel like was a great thread buddy

 

[Pakicel]

idk about the jaw implants as i'm not really into "looksmaxing" and did this surgery in the first place mainly for functionality reasons than look reasons... as long as I look "normal/slightly better than average" I'll be fine... :/

but genio once i'm done healing is really probable depending on if I still dislike/feel like i'm lacking chin projection. I met my surgeon this week and he did say the cheeks and upper lip is supposed to dial down/retract a bit so it might help, we'll see. If it was free than I say yes without a doubt i'll get one, it's the money that's making me value the pros and cons for now :/ I don't have much as a full time UNI student lmao...

you need to be careful with strictly doing a genio without moving the jaw itself though... sometimes the skin in between the chin and bottom lip doesn't follow properly and you end up looking like a crescent moon

You can get a graft between the chin and the lower lip to prevent this from happening.

But if I’m being honest, thought you look better after surgery, your jaw is now a bit too far back. I still think a genio with enough forward projection should be enough.

 

[IbIamesean]

sad

 

[hekch]

FUCK this makes me so angry the IGNORANCE and lack of CRANIOFACIAL FUCKING KNOWLEDGE A SO-CALLED "SURGEON" HAS

don't worry my fellow Brazilian street-shitters only six more years and I will be a plastic surgeon, I am already done with my degree in biology for now ...

yeah its abominable. i know bimax is painful as shit but seriously he needs a revision. this is crazy

 

[henryhussain]

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Shit morph I did cause I can't fix the chin and I find that area difficult but I think this would be better than his current results even this pile of shit

Where do you do your morphs?