ronluk
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Here is my final post on this forum. Dont get me wrong this forum is very good for learning about issues and solutions for many different factors that normies do not know about. But i started going on this forum with hope for bettering myself and i did. i got muscular dressed right found out my failos and even planned certain hardmaxxes to make it better. Had female attention and iois spike up literally 10x this summer . But i realized i spent too much time on this shithole and if you are like me brain NT, tall and at least average looking definetly overkill for this forum, you can be average height and ugly as long as you are NT. this forum should stop being browsed after learning what hardmaxxxes if any should be done to make you ascend and setting a plan and then going for it.
and that i do not need to learn anything more from you here. Considering i do not have autism or npd like some unfortunate souls here my issue was purely mindset and looks wise. Luckily not brain chemistry, You do not, i repeat do not take advice on social aspects from people on this forum.
Here is a little shitty guide for the next average looking NT guy who might have the same problems as me if you ever stumble upon this thread in a sea full of neurodivergent psychosis ridden degenerate threads let me be the beacon of NT and common sense.
Recession and facial deformity:
should be fairly obvious. If you are recessed even by 1mm it can destroy your facial harmony and make you look ugly. This is one of the most important things to fix an i highly suggest getting a bimax/trimax if your mandible and maxilla is you cannot be gl if you are severly recessed. Facial downgrowth is also a symptom that can happen to people who had bad habits growing up causing a too long midface.
this can also somewhat be helped with surgery but there are limits to how much movement you can do. if your midface is still horse tier you can opt for soft tissue work like eyebrow lowering botox and surgery like lip lift (lip lift has its own consequences), Not everyone is genetically meant to have a prominent chin should be obvious but certain races do not typically have prominent chin projection, blacks and hispanics are one of the ethnicties that have weak chins, obviously if you still want a prominent chin you can opt for surgery but i warn you this might make you look less like your phenotype. If your palate is too narrow you can opt for palate widening procedures like MSE SARPE OR SEGMENTAL LEFORT. But even with a narrow palate you might not need it as long as its in harmony with your features. if it is not you can obviously look at palate expansion but soft tissue work (rhino) could do the trick
causes of recession: mouth breathing, bad diet and soft foods, Braces and teeth pulling (yes braces narrow your palate and recess your jaws even without teeth pulling)
Facial symmetry: ever opened the inverted filter and felt absolutely disgusted in what you see. even though in the mirror and non inverted camera you look symmetrical? its not in your mind and you might have it worse than most people. I used to think everyone was assymetrical which might even ever so slightly be the case but ive made my family members and friends do the inverted filter and when they did the inverted filter i did not see any major assymetry at worst perhaps jaw. when they saw me do it they did see it. my nose jaw and eyes/eyebrows all jump to the other side and it really makes me unphotogenic. allthough right after my friend seeing the inverted filter and then he looked at me he said in real life i look symmetrical and cant spot what just happend in the inverted filter. What is the consequence of this? seems like the assymetry is only visible on camera and not in real life?
well this probably does affect attraction somehow maybe people cant pinpoint it but i bet if it were somewhat symmetrical id be more gl. here is what i found out. Jaw implant/with jaw surgery if recessed can make your mandible symmetrical. in general implants in your face done by a good surgeon will pretty much fix the assymetry in jaw and midface. Braces might possibly help as well. Nose job for nose and for the eyes you can check if the problem is eyebrows. If your eye socket is actually deviated then you need orbital box osteonomy.
causes of facial asymmetry: not sure
bad eye area bug like eye area: You ever seen a photo of yourself as a child and thought what the fuck happend to my eyes. Why are they so much worse now that im older?. your looking at recessed orbital bones. Easily fixed with implants, filler or fat graft. and dark eye bags can be camouflaged with bb cream/concealer your mom probably has it herself. if your eyes literally look like they are about to jump out of your skull you are looking at very unfortunate genetics, and you might just have very shallow set eyes. unfortunately the only surgery that can help that specific problem alone is orbital decompression which has a high complication rate. People can go blind from that and if i had that issue myself i would not get that surgery. Id do my best with the tools i have just listed
causes: upper maxilla recession. Bad habits, genetics
There is more to learn really i have not listed even 5% of what i learnt. But this is a journey for the next nigga out there. This is mostly what my problems are, im sure you have other problems as well. some of you might be struggling with height or body fat god knows. But for the love of god make a acension plan like gymmaxxing surgeries and dress right and go for it. Leave this whole shit behind you already know what you need the rest you learn here will just be incel slang and useless information. that will objecitvely make you less likable as a person day by day your soul dies in this dystopian view of life. i geniuenly believe there are good "foids" out there that would not pick chad over her current man if she loves him. and i think these types of foids are more common than you think
im glad to forever be a "greycell" i did not get the curse of inceldom by ranking up in this forum. bye bye it was nice talking to some of you guys really had a few chats with some dude a whole decade older than me even had one nice argument with a hungarian guy who seemed to have lost all hope in humanity and trust of people alongside a bit of dystopian thoughts. even though i tried to bellitle him he gave evidence for his beliefs and our argument ended in a decent chat where we both came to agree to disagree in a respectful. i understand how he views the world though i can agree with him to an extent. but this place certainly does not help my case. i hope you one day find happiness in life whoever you are i geniuenly mean it.
-Forever NTmaxxed
Ronluk
and that i do not need to learn anything more from you here. Considering i do not have autism or npd like some unfortunate souls here my issue was purely mindset and looks wise. Luckily not brain chemistry, You do not, i repeat do not take advice on social aspects from people on this forum.
Here is a little shitty guide for the next average looking NT guy who might have the same problems as me if you ever stumble upon this thread in a sea full of neurodivergent psychosis ridden degenerate threads let me be the beacon of NT and common sense.
Recession and facial deformity:
should be fairly obvious. If you are recessed even by 1mm it can destroy your facial harmony and make you look ugly. This is one of the most important things to fix an i highly suggest getting a bimax/trimax if your mandible and maxilla is you cannot be gl if you are severly recessed. Facial downgrowth is also a symptom that can happen to people who had bad habits growing up causing a too long midface.
this can also somewhat be helped with surgery but there are limits to how much movement you can do. if your midface is still horse tier you can opt for soft tissue work like eyebrow lowering botox and surgery like lip lift (lip lift has its own consequences), Not everyone is genetically meant to have a prominent chin should be obvious but certain races do not typically have prominent chin projection, blacks and hispanics are one of the ethnicties that have weak chins, obviously if you still want a prominent chin you can opt for surgery but i warn you this might make you look less like your phenotype. If your palate is too narrow you can opt for palate widening procedures like MSE SARPE OR SEGMENTAL LEFORT. But even with a narrow palate you might not need it as long as its in harmony with your features. if it is not you can obviously look at palate expansion but soft tissue work (rhino) could do the trick
causes of recession: mouth breathing, bad diet and soft foods, Braces and teeth pulling (yes braces narrow your palate and recess your jaws even without teeth pulling)
Facial symmetry: ever opened the inverted filter and felt absolutely disgusted in what you see. even though in the mirror and non inverted camera you look symmetrical? its not in your mind and you might have it worse than most people. I used to think everyone was assymetrical which might even ever so slightly be the case but ive made my family members and friends do the inverted filter and when they did the inverted filter i did not see any major assymetry at worst perhaps jaw. when they saw me do it they did see it. my nose jaw and eyes/eyebrows all jump to the other side and it really makes me unphotogenic. allthough right after my friend seeing the inverted filter and then he looked at me he said in real life i look symmetrical and cant spot what just happend in the inverted filter. What is the consequence of this? seems like the assymetry is only visible on camera and not in real life?
well this probably does affect attraction somehow maybe people cant pinpoint it but i bet if it were somewhat symmetrical id be more gl. here is what i found out. Jaw implant/with jaw surgery if recessed can make your mandible symmetrical. in general implants in your face done by a good surgeon will pretty much fix the assymetry in jaw and midface. Braces might possibly help as well. Nose job for nose and for the eyes you can check if the problem is eyebrows. If your eye socket is actually deviated then you need orbital box osteonomy.
causes of facial asymmetry: not sure
bad eye area bug like eye area: You ever seen a photo of yourself as a child and thought what the fuck happend to my eyes. Why are they so much worse now that im older?. your looking at recessed orbital bones. Easily fixed with implants, filler or fat graft. and dark eye bags can be camouflaged with bb cream/concealer your mom probably has it herself. if your eyes literally look like they are about to jump out of your skull you are looking at very unfortunate genetics, and you might just have very shallow set eyes. unfortunately the only surgery that can help that specific problem alone is orbital decompression which has a high complication rate. People can go blind from that and if i had that issue myself i would not get that surgery. Id do my best with the tools i have just listed
causes: upper maxilla recession. Bad habits, genetics
There is more to learn really i have not listed even 5% of what i learnt. But this is a journey for the next nigga out there. This is mostly what my problems are, im sure you have other problems as well. some of you might be struggling with height or body fat god knows. But for the love of god make a acension plan like gymmaxxing surgeries and dress right and go for it. Leave this whole shit behind you already know what you need the rest you learn here will just be incel slang and useless information. that will objecitvely make you less likable as a person day by day your soul dies in this dystopian view of life. i geniuenly believe there are good "foids" out there that would not pick chad over her current man if she loves him. and i think these types of foids are more common than you think
im glad to forever be a "greycell" i did not get the curse of inceldom by ranking up in this forum. bye bye it was nice talking to some of you guys really had a few chats with some dude a whole decade older than me even had one nice argument with a hungarian guy who seemed to have lost all hope in humanity and trust of people alongside a bit of dystopian thoughts. even though i tried to bellitle him he gave evidence for his beliefs and our argument ended in a decent chat where we both came to agree to disagree in a respectful. i understand how he views the world though i can agree with him to an extent. but this place certainly does not help my case. i hope you one day find happiness in life whoever you are i geniuenly mean it.
-Forever NTmaxxed
Ronluk